Tab where on you win some, you lose more.

Tab where on you win some, you lose more.

No footy tonight, but a cyclone won't stop. The AFL Today Show brought to you by tab. We are still here with a brand new panel. Here we go, lads. I'm your host, Liam McCallin, also known as the stats Guy.

No footy tonight, but a cyclone won't stop. The AFL Today Show brought to you by tab. We are still here with a brand new panel. Here we go, lads. I'm your host, Liam McCallin, also known as the stats Guy.

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Over there.

He's always fired up. After some foods and drinks, He's ready to go, Liam Malali, howre you going?

He's always fired up. After some foods and drinks, He's ready to go, Liam Malali, howre you going?

I'm feeling exquisite stats guy. I'm here with my boys. Yes, chilling, It's good.

I'm feeling exquisite stats guy. I'm here with my boys. Yes, chilling, It's good.

It is true if yous as well. We've also got Marcus Barzana, he's fired up.

It is true if yous as well. We've also got Marcus Barzana, he's fired up.

I've got the second time, which is more than already from last season, so I'll take that as a win.

I've got the second time, which is more than already from last season, so I'll take that as a win.

There you go.

There you go.

You're going to be every Thursday night mate. They also got me this top actually cheesels Cheesels, which is my super coach team.

You're going to be every Thursday night mate. They also got me this top actually cheesels Cheesels, which is my super coach team.

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Take it off. Definitely not definitely not.

Thursday Night's previous show is back, brought to you by tabs AFL missed by one. If your disposal is like missus by one, TAB will still pay you out as a winner. Download the tab app today. What are you really gambling with? All right, we've got an awesome show today. Leo and I interviewed the great Locky Foggity the other day, Carlton's Glue.

Thursday Night's previous show is back, brought to you by tabs AFL missed by one. If your disposal is like missus by one, TAB will still pay you out as a winner. Download the tab app today. What are you really gambling with? All right, we've got an awesome show today. Leo and I interviewed the great Locky Foggity the other day, Carlton's Glue.

The Wiley, My throw Locky Foggy.

The Wiley, My throw Locky Foggy.

Yes, it was really good, so good. He's got lovely hair, nice little mullet going on. Relax mate, Yeah, relax, it would be good.

Yes, it was really good, so good. He's got lovely hair, nice little mullet going on. Relax mate, Yeah, relax, it would be good.

He'll be back.

He'll be back.

We go through some AFL news, both of the opening round matchups. I say both because sadly there's only two. Bloody cycling Alfred as rule that. We're going to go through that with tips, odds, stats, debates, best bets, big calls for the weekend from each of us actually which is going to be good fun, and then finish off with what to keep an eye for the weekend ahead.

We go through some AFL news, both of the opening round matchups. I say both because sadly there's only two. Bloody cycling Alfred as rule that. We're going to go through that with tips, odds, stats, debates, best bets, big calls for the weekend from each of us actually which is going to be good fun, and then finish off with what to keep an eye for the weekend ahead.

So only two games, but we still got to cover a lot. It'll be good fun. We'll ramble. Yeah, we want to get it out for you guys.

So only two games, but we still got to cover a lot. It'll be good fun. We'll ramble. Yeah, we want to get it out for you guys.

It's only been about two minutes since the team's got announced, so yes, we're.

It's only been about two minutes since the team's got announced, so yes, we're.

Ready to go. Appreciate us. Yeah, there we go.

Ready to go. Appreciate us. Yeah, there we go.

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Well, we're gonna end with twenty four k, over one hundred a day.

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He knows it. Yeah, I know you all your socials that you put up.

He knows it. Yeah, I know you all your socials that you put up.

Follow Leo's putting the super Coach teams up there, which is really good fun. And then across, of course, across all the podcast platforms, so you can listen to us on there all right. As we always start these shows, Newsticker Lads News ticker. First one, Matt row is causing a bit of a stir. He's causing interest in other clubs. Five Victorian clubs are after Matt Rowe apparently, and the dogs are at the top of that.

Follow Leo's putting the super Coach teams up there, which is really good fun. And then across, of course, across all the podcast platforms, so you can listen to us on there all right. As we always start these shows, Newsticker Lads News ticker. First one, Matt row is causing a bit of a stir. He's causing interest in other clubs. Five Victorian clubs are after Matt Rowe apparently, and the dogs are at the top of that.

That's the only one confirmed. The dogs. Yes, okay, what do you guys think should we guess for the other? I think.

That's the only one confirmed. The dogs. Yes, okay, what do you guys think should we guess for the other? I think.

Yes, Geelong probably they just love like a midfield's twenty.

Yes, Geelong probably they just love like a midfield's twenty.

Mil right there. For Matt Row. That's true dogs. I think it's a bit weird.

Mil right there. For Matt Row. That's true dogs. I think it's a bit weird.

But talking to dogs fans, including my dad, he was like, Liber goes out that sort of pretty guy. Yeah, Liber is pretty old. You get Matt Rowe coming in. That's like the gritty, grinding sort of midfielder.

But talking to dogs fans, including my dad, he was like, Liber goes out that sort of pretty guy. Yeah, Liber is pretty old. You get Matt Rowe coming in. That's like the gritty, grinding sort of midfielder.

That they need.

That they need.

So I don't mind the dogs. He will also.

So I don't mind the dogs. He will also.

Keep the the practice ovals at whitt No Oval freshly.

Keep the the practice ovals at whitt No Oval freshly.

Moan exactly because that was a lot with the cancel.

Moan exactly because that was a lot with the cancel.

All you gonna do is just hold his legs, will barrow him Mattrow.

All you gonna do is just hold his legs, will barrow him Mattrow.

Can we do a skit with Matt Row where we will? But I don't think you'll. Don't think he will like that. He's a bit too vanilla for us. Probably.

Can we do a skit with Matt Row where we will? But I don't think you'll. Don't think he will like that. He's a bit too vanilla for us. Probably.

Wow, So he's not a he wouldn't go to Geelong. You're saying he's not a Geelong boy boy, but he's a good man.

Wow, So he's not a he wouldn't go to Geelong. You're saying he's not a Geelong boy boy, but he's a good man.

Not many, not many rangers like a nice guy said about you. Yeah, producer. There we go next one. In the newsticker, You're old mate. Your coach Sam Mitchell is fired up. There was a docco last night that you watched. He said in the doco he doesn't want his side to look tired out in the field. So he said, of course you're going to be tired in the NFL game. But he says, if your players look tired, you're going to lose the game.

Not many, not many rangers like a nice guy said about you. Yeah, producer. There we go next one. In the newsticker, You're old mate. Your coach Sam Mitchell is fired up. There was a docco last night that you watched. He said in the doco he doesn't want his side to look tired out in the field. So he said, of course you're going to be tired in the NFL game. But he says, if your players look tired, you're going to lose the game.

I probably agree with that. We said he'd rather play with sixteen. Yeah.

I probably agree with that. We said he'd rather play with sixteen. Yeah.

I think that was just more to like send the message would so he said this with a lot more swear words than I.

I think that was just more to like send the message would so he said this with a lot more swear words than I.

Yes, I look I like it.

Yes, I look I like it.

I think every coach should be doing that though, like they don't want their players looking tired. That just give because if you're tired, the opposition will be tired, and the lift and if you're showing you're tired and the opposition isn't, it's.

I think every coach should be doing that though, like they don't want their players looking tired. That just give because if you're tired, the opposition will be tired, and the lift and if you're showing you're tired and the opposition isn't, it's.

Just like a little awe, a thing in the air that not to get on top of you.

Just like a little awe, a thing in the air that not to get on top of you.

Well, he has a point, but I reckon every other club would be doing that.

Well, he has a point, but I reckon every other club would be doing that.

I know it was a pracky but I feel like he did that at half time against the Dogs because the Hawks did lose.

I know it was a pracky but I feel like he did that at half time against the Dogs because the Hawks did lose.

That did did look a little bit lethargic in that first time.

That did did look a little bit lethargic in that first time.

In the docker. That was a bit at halftime during that Dog's game. Yeah it wasn't It wasn't too happy, but yeah, they definitely lifted and it was an interesting inside that doc. But it wasn't anything groundbreaking. But as a Hawks fan, I'm going to know it.

In the docker. That was a bit at halftime during that Dog's game. Yeah it wasn't It wasn't too happy, but yeah, they definitely lifted and it was an interesting inside that doc. But it wasn't anything groundbreaking. But as a Hawks fan, I'm going to know it.

Looked pretty good. I'll give it a wash. I reckon why not. There was probably a little bit about the Wizard in there, and loved him.

Looked pretty good. I'll give it a wash. I reckon why not. There was probably a little bit about the Wizard in there, and loved him.

So there was actually surprisingly a lot on Tom Barrass and they.

So there was actually surprisingly a lot on Tom Barrass and they.

Were very very Grass is a good person. They were very hard on him, though I think he's a better signing than Josh Battle.

Were very very Grass is a good person. They were very hard on him, though I think he's a better signing than Josh Battle.

Interesting, I agree, I agree, we'll see how the Battle is younger though I think Battle has scope to be a little bit better, but we'll see.

Interesting, I agree, I agree, we'll see how the Battle is younger though I think Battle has scope to be a little bit better, but we'll see.

Nice.

Nice.

It's surprising that they were hard on Barrass though so experienced, and the like was you've got to learn the Hawthorn way of fitness or no, no, it's just like you've got to learn our structure. You've got to be a bit more intimidating and physical. And he wasn't against it. He was taking the one but it just found it interesting they go after someone so experienced like that.

It's surprising that they were hard on Barrass though so experienced, and the like was you've got to learn the Hawthorn way of fitness or no, no, it's just like you've got to learn our structure. You've got to be a bit more intimidating and physical. And he wasn't against it. He was taking the one but it just found it interesting they go after someone so experienced like that.

There we go, just like our Cricket Today show that were usually a bit of nuggets of knowledge.

There we go, just like our Cricket Today show that were usually a bit of nuggets of knowledge.

I mean, I'm not really providing the knowledge now, I'm just relaying you've done, You've done next one.

I mean, I'm not really providing the knowledge now, I'm just relaying you've done, You've done next one.

In the newsticker, Clary Oliver just in an interview at midst he wasn't the best teammate or person at the club last year, thanks captain.

In the newsticker, Clary Oliver just in an interview at midst he wasn't the best teammate or person at the club last year, thanks captain.

But the fact that he said that, and the fact that they're sort.

But the fact that he said that, and the fact that they're sort.

Of moving on as a club with him and he said he's going to be there in the long term as a Melbourne fan, You're like, at least he's owning up to it, and at least yeah, the.

Of moving on as a club with him and he said he's going to be there in the long term as a Melbourne fan, You're like, at least he's owning up to it, and at least yeah, the.

Whole club is like, he's all right now, everyone's getting through it. What do you guys think about that? I love that quote. Yes, it was.

Whole club is like, he's all right now, everyone's getting through it. What do you guys think about that? I love that quote. Yes, it was.

Actually written in an article by Gilbert Garner that's in this office. Yeah, yeah, because Clarry was at the I think he's a race ambassador this weekend or something like that. And yeah, it was a few Clary article about Clary, so that was interesting.

Actually written in an article by Gilbert Garner that's in this office. Yeah, yeah, because Clarry was at the I think he's a race ambassador this weekend or something like that. And yeah, it was a few Clary article about Clary, so that was interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, Well we had twenty eight and a goal in the pracky I think you know, three goals.

Yeah, Well we had twenty eight and a goal in the pracky I think you know, three goals.

The wrong one and I was looking at Corney. Yeah three goals, Yeah, that's unbelieving.

The wrong one and I was looking at Corney. Yeah three goals, Yeah, that's unbelieving.

Scored one thirty four super Coach points for those interesting getting in.

Scored one thirty four super Coach points for those interesting getting in.

Your team last one in the newsticker the AFL, I've re arranged the pictures of opening around obviously cyclone Alfred. But they confirmed today that Brisbane verse Geelong will be in round three. Because both teams were supposed to have the buy then and then you're bombers. You want to talk about them, it's it's what's wrong with Esson versus Gold Coast, Essen versus Gold Coast. Look, they don't have Both teams don't have the same boys early in the season and late in the season, which is a bit of a problem but a bit tricky.

Your team last one in the newsticker the AFL, I've re arranged the pictures of opening around obviously cyclone Alfred. But they confirmed today that Brisbane verse Geelong will be in round three. Because both teams were supposed to have the buy then and then you're bombers. You want to talk about them, it's it's what's wrong with Esson versus Gold Coast, Essen versus Gold Coast. Look, they don't have Both teams don't have the same boys early in the season and late in the season, which is a bit of a problem but a bit tricky.

So instead of working.

So instead of working.

It around, they're just going to be like, all right, we's just slap it in the bye week before finals start after round twenty four.

It around, they're just going to be like, all right, we's just slap it in the bye week before finals start after round twenty four.

Well, both teams arent going to be in finals anyway, so.

Well, both teams arent going to be in finals anyway, so.

Yeah, probably not, but no Coast even still, if they're not in finals, it's just a pointless dead rubber that we got to watch away finals.

Yeah, probably not, but no Coast even still, if they're not in finals, it's just a pointless dead rubber that we got to watch away finals.

Or imagine if you're both like tenth, eleventh or twelfth and you have to win that game to win make the finals.

Or imagine if you're both like tenth, eleventh or twelfth and you have to win that game to win make the finals.

That'd be good. Do you realize you are talking about gold Coast and my bomb. Well, I don't rate gold Coast as much as other people, but they have a chance of making for you know what, him in the eighth he had that a couple of years Adlaide. Yeah, yeah, I'm off.

That'd be good. Do you realize you are talking about gold Coast and my bomb. Well, I don't rate gold Coast as much as other people, but they have a chance of making for you know what, him in the eighth he had that a couple of years Adlaide. Yeah, yeah, I'm off.

The thing is it could be like tenth verse twelve, but like a win gets the like half a game out of the eight and it's just like it's still a dead rubb And you're like, yeah, yeah, I.

The thing is it could be like tenth verse twelve, but like a win gets the like half a game out of the eight and it's just like it's still a dead rubb And you're like, yeah, yeah, I.

Would have rather just cancel the game completely and give both teams the points.

Would have rather just cancel the game completely and give both teams the points.

No, let's do it. Yeah, so mac Andrew can't kick another goal after the siren.

No, let's do it. Yeah, so mac Andrew can't kick another goal after the siren.

We'll talk that suggestion on Wednesday, show the draw you said I did.

We'll talk that suggestion on Wednesday, show the draw you said I did.

No, I'm on for that because stuff, it's going to be a dead rubber that How.

No, I'm on for that because stuff, it's going to be a dead rubber that How.

Hard is it to rework it? Just surely they can swap buyers.

Hard is it to rework it? Just surely they can swap buyers.

Around and they got twenty four weeks to rearrange that fixture. Yeah, you're telling me you can't find one space in there, especially when Essendon played midweek while streaming as that day will be midweksh I'm sure around there you could probably.

Around and they got twenty four weeks to rearrange that fixture. Yeah, you're telling me you can't find one space in there, especially when Essendon played midweek while streaming as that day will be midweksh I'm sure around there you could probably.

Think the midweek games like in COVID.

Think the midweek games like in COVID.

Nah, that was don't give me.

Nah, that was don't give me.

Want to bring yep, that's exactly what I said. Anyway, that make that the quote and the thumbnail, Well you're going to.

Want to bring yep, that's exactly what I said. Anyway, that make that the quote and the thumbnail, Well you're going to.

Wants to bring back COVID. On that note, let's have a little bit of a break.

Wants to bring back COVID. On that note, let's have a little bit of a break.

We're going to get into the interview that Leo and I did with Lucky Foggery talks all things super coach, Vossi, a few other things.

We're going to get into the interview that Leo and I did with Lucky Foggery talks all things super coach, Vossi, a few other things.

So we're going to get into that right now.

So we're going to get into that right now.

AFL Today here with a another special segment. We're here with one of the most consistent Carlton players. He does a bit of everything, Lucky Foggy. Thanks for jumping on AFL Today, show mate.

AFL Today here with a another special segment. We're here with one of the most consistent Carlton players. He does a bit of everything, Lucky Foggy. Thanks for jumping on AFL Today, show mate.

How are you yeah going well?

How are you yeah going well?

Guys, thanks for having me awesome.

Guys, thanks for having me awesome.

We'll start off this is we love a bit of Michael voss on this show. I'm very curious about Vossi. Obviously he had a bit of a superhero arc last season. Even at that cafe, he's saving some people and things like that. What's he like and do you think the great Man could still get a game in this card?

We'll start off this is we love a bit of Michael voss on this show. I'm very curious about Vossi. Obviously he had a bit of a superhero arc last season. Even at that cafe, he's saving some people and things like that. What's he like and do you think the great Man could still get a game in this card?

And team. He's so buff, he's still ready to go.

And team. He's so buff, he's still ready to go.

He certainly is in good nick at the moment. Yeah.

He certainly is in good nick at the moment. Yeah.

We see him in the gym a few times and while boys are struggling to lift a hundred, he's doing it as he's warm up.

We see him in the gym a few times and while boys are struggling to lift a hundred, he's doing it as he's warm up.

So yeah, he's good man Vossy.

So yeah, he's good man Vossy.

He's big on relationships and building those with players, and.

He's big on relationships and building those with players, and.

He's just a great motivator as well.

He's just a great motivator as well.

We talk about often in our captains runs and our meetings we feel like playing that game then and there just because he's so motivating. So yeah, he's been really good for our group.

We talk about often in our captains runs and our meetings we feel like playing that game then and there just because he's so motivating. So yeah, he's been really good for our group.

Yeah, that's awesome. That's what you wanted to excip it coach obviously as well.

Yeah, that's awesome. That's what you wanted to excip it coach obviously as well.

Yeah, I love that.

Yeah, I love that.

Is there anyone at the club, Lockie that gives the best sort of chirp or trash tall field?

Is there anyone at the club, Lockie that gives the best sort of chirp or trash tall field?

Ooh for yourself? Even do you have any?

Ooh for yourself? Even do you have any?

Yeah, to be honest, I feel like guys are so tired during games.

Yeah, to be honest, I feel like guys are so tired during games.

It's not too much, honestly.

It's not too much, honestly.

Probably since my first year I reckon I was playing against Port Adelaide.

Probably since my first year I reckon I was playing against Port Adelaide.

This is about seven years ago. I don't reckon. I've got too much since then, So yeah, it has been a while. If I had to, I.

This is about seven years ago. I don't reckon. I've got too much since then, So yeah, it has been a while. If I had to, I.

Had to think of someone, it's probably someone like a Charlie Kerner or Maddi culturally and a few things.

Had to think of someone, it's probably someone like a Charlie Kerner or Maddi culturally and a few things.

Yeah, Madie, especially Maddie. He loves a strut after he kicks a goal. I think he's a bit of a loose can.

Yeah, Madie, especially Maddie. He loves a strut after he kicks a goal. I think he's a bit of a loose can.

Yeah, I love that. I love that.

Yeah, I love that. I love that.

He's all about that for sure.

He's all about that for sure.

Very nice.

Very nice.

Love it.

Love it.

Now. You obviously played at Spotswood as a junior. I know Jordan Boyd played there as well.

Now. You obviously played at Spotswood as a junior. I know Jordan Boyd played there as well.

Did you play much.

Did you play much.

Footy with him and what's it like playing alongside him on the on the big stage.

Footy with him and what's it like playing alongside him on the on the big stage.

Yeah, so I played heaps of footy with Boydie. We started in the under nine together. He's a year older, but through period there I was playing above my age group. So yeah, it's honestly, it's it's really cool. I think it was back in twenty twenty one and I went back to Spotty and he was playing at the seniors at the time, and I actually presented his spots with Jumper to him and then yeah, a few months later he was a mid season draft d. So yeah, I got a really good mat with Boydy. We still train together in the off season and it's pretty cool to think that two kids from Spots were just playing in the AFL together.

Yeah, so I played heaps of footy with Boydie. We started in the under nine together. He's a year older, but through period there I was playing above my age group. So yeah, it's honestly, it's it's really cool. I think it was back in twenty twenty one and I went back to Spotty and he was playing at the seniors at the time, and I actually presented his spots with Jumper to him and then yeah, a few months later he was a mid season draft d. So yeah, I got a really good mat with Boydy. We still train together in the off season and it's pretty cool to think that two kids from Spots were just playing in the AFL together.

Yeah, that's that's sick.

Yeah, that's that's sick.

Do you ever go back in what's a bit of Spots Spotswood when you can?

Do you ever go back in what's a bit of Spots Spotswood when you can?

Or I haven't.

Or I haven't.

I haven't for a little while. I've also I'm tied up with Saint Evans. I went to my school, so I still got mates playing for the Sint Kevin's Old Boys. So when I do get an opportunity, yeah, I'll try and get there.

I haven't for a little while. I've also I'm tied up with Saint Evans. I went to my school, so I still got mates playing for the Sint Kevin's Old Boys. So when I do get an opportunity, yeah, I'll try and get there.

Yeah, I love it.

Yeah, I love it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Would you say Jordan Boyd you're probably closest with in the Carlton team or your lock of buddy next year would be Crip, I'd say with numbers and things like that.

Would you say Jordan Boyd you're probably closest with in the Carlton team or your lock of buddy next year would be Crip, I'd say with numbers and things like that.

Or is there anyone else you're sort of close with at the club?

Or is there anyone else you're sort of close with at the club?

Yeah, close with Boydy. George Hewitt's another one I'm pretty good mates with. We had a similar back problems a couple year years ago and did our rehab together, and yeah, he's someone I'm very close with. Good sounding board for me, but even just not talking about footage, just talking about other things.

Yeah, close with Boydy. George Hewitt's another one I'm pretty good mates with. We had a similar back problems a couple year years ago and did our rehab together, and yeah, he's someone I'm very close with. Good sounding board for me, but even just not talking about footage, just talking about other things.

Yeah, he's always good to chat too.

Yeah, he's always good to chat too.

Yeah, I love that.

Yeah, I love that.

I'm just gonna have a little People call me the stats guy on this show, so I'm going to bring a stat for once. Since the start of twenty twenty three, Carlton are twenty and seven with you and six one and twelve without you. Did you know you're the mold to this Carleton team? And do you let the other boys know about it? Because I feel like if you play that, you're just going to get a dub.

I'm just gonna have a little People call me the stats guy on this show, so I'm going to bring a stat for once. Since the start of twenty twenty three, Carlton are twenty and seven with you and six one and twelve without you. Did you know you're the mold to this Carleton team? And do you let the other boys know about it? Because I feel like if you play that, you're just going to get a dub.

I'm not too sure about that.

I'm not too sure about that.

A few people I've mentioned the stat to me over the last eighteen months, and yeah, it's probably nice to hear, but I don't read into it too much.

A few people I've mentioned the stat to me over the last eighteen months, and yeah, it's probably nice to hear, but I don't read into it too much.

But yeah, it is a nice stat when you think about it.

But yeah, it is a nice stat when you think about it.

Yeah, I reckon. Just bring it up.

Yeah, I reckon. Just bring it up.

If anyone ever gives you a clip or something like that, just just say, yeah, we win when I'm in the team six one and that's pretty good boy.

If anyone ever gives you a clip or something like that, just just say, yeah, we win when I'm in the team six one and that's pretty good boy.

Yeah, yeah, I love it. Next one. We always love talking about the younger guys. Obviously got Jagger Smith.

Yeah, yeah, I love it. Next one. We always love talking about the younger guys. Obviously got Jagger Smith.

I'm really excited to see him play next unfortunately he's injured, but really excited to see him comes through the ranks. A lot of other younger guys, who do you reckon is your breakout or guy that's going to go to another level in twenty twenty five, obviously you've had a big pre season and things like that.

I'm really excited to see him play next unfortunately he's injured, but really excited to see him comes through the ranks. A lot of other younger guys, who do you reckon is your breakout or guy that's going to go to another level in twenty twenty five, obviously you've had a big pre season and things like that.

Yeah, yeah, there's probably a couple guys in his third season, Lucky Cowen. I've been really impressed by him, and obviously we've had Nick Newman go down, so we have needed someone to step up. And yeah, I've had to play on him a fair bit in this preseason. Actually said to him a couple of weeks ago when we were training, I'm actually looking forward to not playing on him.

Yeah, yeah, there's probably a couple guys in his third season, Lucky Cowen. I've been really impressed by him, and obviously we've had Nick Newman go down, so we have needed someone to step up. And yeah, I've had to play on him a fair bit in this preseason. Actually said to him a couple of weeks ago when we were training, I'm actually looking forward to not playing on him.

He's a real physical player.

He's a real physical player.

He can be a lockdown defender if he has to, or I feel like once he gets a bit more confidence and comfortable, he's a player who can break some lines, which he was able to do back in the under eighteen system.

He can be a lockdown defender if he has to, or I feel like once he gets a bit more confidence and comfortable, he's a player who can break some lines, which he was able to do back in the under eighteen system.

So yeah, I feel like he's really he's in for a big year.

So yeah, I feel like he's really he's in for a big year.

Yeah, I love that. Actually, the crowd i've heard go move when Cowen gets the ball. Is there any other like strong nicknames around the club that we might not have heard of or one that you have yourself, even that the boys call you.

Yeah, I love that. Actually, the crowd i've heard go move when Cowen gets the ball. Is there any other like strong nicknames around the club that we might not have heard of or one that you have yourself, even that the boys call you.

I get called dogger a bit, Just things like that, the amount of nicknames throwing around footy club.

I get called dogger a bit, Just things like that, the amount of nicknames throwing around footy club.

Cooper Lord gets called gospel.

Cooper Lord gets called gospel.

Yeah, yeah nice.

Yeah, yeah nice.

So yeah, there's a few out there which are pretty funny.

So yeah, there's a few out there which are pretty funny.

Yeah, nice and creative. I don't mind that. Nice.

Yeah, nice and creative. I don't mind that. Nice.

Switching to outside of footy. What sort of keeps you busy in your downtime.

Switching to outside of footy. What sort of keeps you busy in your downtime.

It's a little bit of study at the moment, doing a commerce degree and slowly ticking that off. Yeah, it's all online, which is handy, so I can just listen to the recordings when I want to. Yeah, I'm about halfway through the course which ye with the twenty four units, but slowly getting there. Just got a dog as well, a little brutal so awesome, keeping me pretty busy taking her for a walk. So her name's Peach, so yeah, she's about five months old now. But Grudle is a pretty full lie, which I've come to learn.

It's a little bit of study at the moment, doing a commerce degree and slowly ticking that off. Yeah, it's all online, which is handy, so I can just listen to the recordings when I want to. Yeah, I'm about halfway through the course which ye with the twenty four units, but slowly getting there. Just got a dog as well, a little brutal so awesome, keeping me pretty busy taking her for a walk. So her name's Peach, so yeah, she's about five months old now. But Grudle is a pretty full lie, which I've come to learn.

Yeah, like looking after a little kid. Probably very nice.

Yeah, like looking after a little kid. Probably very nice.

Actually, this is one that we got provided from your media manager. But I heard you were once not too bad at Super Coach fourth Best for a month back in twenty fifteen. I've heard you've been telling all the boys you'd be like, oh, I used to be a Supercoach wizard. Are you still all over the super Coach or is anyone else in the Blues that are always checking their supercoach scores or individual scores even.

Actually, this is one that we got provided from your media manager. But I heard you were once not too bad at Super Coach fourth Best for a month back in twenty fifteen. I've heard you've been telling all the boys you'd be like, oh, I used to be a Supercoach wizard. Are you still all over the super Coach or is anyone else in the Blues that are always checking their supercoach scores or individual scores even.

Yeah. So yeah that was back in twenty fifteen.

Yeah. So yeah that was back in twenty fifteen.

I was right into it with my schoolmates and yeah for a month, yeah I was in the top four, but I did go down hell after that, I couldn't even tell you I finished over all the ranking. I've dropped it last year. I was the first year I hadn't done it for a while. But I have got a few mates snagging me at the moment to get back into it. So yeah, We've only got a couple of days, so I might might be putting my team together pretty soon.

I was right into it with my schoolmates and yeah for a month, yeah I was in the top four, but I did go down hell after that, I couldn't even tell you I finished over all the ranking. I've dropped it last year. I was the first year I hadn't done it for a while. But I have got a few mates snagging me at the moment to get back into it. So yeah, We've only got a couple of days, so I might might be putting my team together pretty soon.

Yeah, I love that.

Yeah, I love that.

Yeah, we love being a super coach. Do you check your superhoach scores? Anyone at the club like that would actually look at it?

Yeah, we love being a super coach. Do you check your superhoach scores? Anyone at the club like that would actually look at it?

Or is it a bit of.

Or is it a bit of.

One that may I don't think guys be all over I saw that.

One that may I don't think guys be all over I saw that.

I don't mind looking at it occasionally because it talks about the effectiveness and haven't effective disposals you've had? So yeah, I'll occasionally look at it. It's in the Herald Son obviously. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, guys, I reckon they be guys who are all over it as well. I think crip, But I don't know, I think he's pretty big on it.

I don't mind looking at it occasionally because it talks about the effectiveness and haven't effective disposals you've had? So yeah, I'll occasionally look at it. It's in the Herald Son obviously. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, guys, I reckon they be guys who are all over it as well. I think crip, But I don't know, I think he's pretty big on it.

Weeders, maybe the Scripper captain himself, you're you've got. I wouldn't blame him. He's just said so yeah, yeah.

Weeders, maybe the Scripper captain himself, you're you've got. I wouldn't blame him. He's just said so yeah, yeah.

I love that. I just love it. Just why not? Actually, I think that's it all the questions. That's it.

I love that. I just love it. Just why not? Actually, I think that's it all the questions. That's it.

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Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

Cheers, mate, Let's get right back into the usual show. What an interview that was, lads with Lockey Foggery. I'm glad he could jump on the lostious locks and everything about him.

Cheers, mate, Let's get right back into the usual show. What an interview that was, lads with Lockey Foggery. I'm glad he could jump on the lostious locks and everything about him.

I just I just liked it. It was very good. Wasn't he the spotty boys dog they my area.

I just I just liked it. It was very good. Wasn't he the spotty boys dog they my area.

Yes, yeah, he talked up Locky Cowen softer look at him.

Yes, yeah, he talked up Locky Cowen softer look at him.

No they say move like they do for s yet it because cow Yeah? No, yeah, thanks.

No they say move like they do for s yet it because cow Yeah? No, yeah, thanks.

In case in case, all right, lad's game preview time. Here we go, opening round. Oh, there's only two games, but that's all right. We'll get into these two games with lots of detail. Sydney Verse Hawthorne is the first one, Your beloved.

In case in case, all right, lad's game preview time. Here we go, opening round. Oh, there's only two games, but that's all right. We'll get into these two games with lots of detail. Sydney Verse Hawthorne is the first one, Your beloved.

Hawksley, are you're a bit nervous? Just first off, I've actually.

Hawksley, are you're a bit nervous? Just first off, I've actually.

Been nervous for a couple of weeks now for a couple weeks. Yeah.

Been nervous for a couple of weeks now for a couple weeks. Yeah.

Literally, this is a working game. It is a big game. Obviously.

Literally, this is a working game. It is a big game. Obviously.

Imagine if this one was canceled and the Essen and Gold Coast one was still going, it would have been Gold Coast Essen in the start of the season.

Imagine if this one was canceled and the Essen and Gold Coast one was still going, it would have been Gold Coast Essen in the start of the season.

How horrible.

How horrible.

That would have been great obviously, Sidney Verse Hawthorn Friday night, seven forty at the SCG. Let's get into the team's lads, let's talk it through you you too, start us off.

That would have been great obviously, Sidney Verse Hawthorn Friday night, seven forty at the SCG. Let's get into the team's lads, let's talk it through you you too, start us off.

You start us off?

You start us off?

Who maybe cover Hawthorne when you could cover?

Who maybe cover Hawthorne when you could cover?

Sure, you cover Hawthorne.

Sure, you cover Hawthorne.

Don't mind.

Don't mind.

How we do this is up for debate. You go, because I have a lot of begins.

How we do this is up for debate. You go, because I have a lot of begins.

Well, they've got Brass and Battle making their club debuts.

Well, they've got Brass and Battle making their club debuts.

They're listed in the back line. Now.

They're listed in the back line. Now.

Look, we don't read into the how the teams structure on the afl AT, but James Cicely is on a wing.

Look, we don't read into the how the teams structure on the afl AT, but James Cicely is on a wing.

Oh boy?

Oh boy?

What Yeah?

What Yeah?

And Harry Morrison is and a half forward. So we all know Harry morral and it's the big bust looks and a half forward.

And Harry Morrison is and a half forward. So we all know Harry morral and it's the big bust looks and a half forward.

But you can't.

But you can't.

You also can't put James Is on a wing. It's just a joke, mate, They.

You also can't put James Is on a wing. It's just a joke, mate, They.

Just they people just chuck it on the.

Just they people just chuck it on the.

Black card fullback.

Black card fullback.

Even though he's gonna play foll this year, he'll play his mind games from the Hawks.

Even though he's gonna play foll this year, he'll play his mind games from the Hawks.

Thereers what you're saying, what this is?

Thereers what you're saying, what this is?

This has happened for a decade now, stuff like this with every team like it's it's nothing new. But yeah, the Hawthorne team looks good. Gunston is an emergency, so he misses out. Bruce is not even in the best twenty six. He didn't get on the plane.

This has happened for a decade now, stuff like this with every team like it's it's nothing new. But yeah, the Hawthorne team looks good. Gunston is an emergency, so he misses out. Bruce is not even in the best twenty six. He didn't get on the plane.

He was a good sub. But you said he played box fill last week. Yeah, I just reckon. I don't know.

He was a good sub. But you said he played box fill last week. Yeah, I just reckon. I don't know.

Looking at our extended bench, someone like a McGinnis could be a good SA's very versatile. Honestly, Loki Frosty is a It's not bad.

Looking at our extended bench, someone like a McGinnis could be a good SA's very versatile. Honestly, Loki Frosty is a It's not bad.

He just speeding. I don't know about that one.

He just speeding. I don't know about that one.

But it's just interesting to see how the Hawks structure their back line. I was reading a little bit that frost if Papley was playing, which we'll get into, was going to go to Papley and use his speed on him there and keep the tools as is, and then hard we can go forward all this and that blah blah blah, but no, no Papley. So we just see how that sort of back six operates against the Sydney forward line.

But it's just interesting to see how the Hawks structure their back line. I was reading a little bit that frost if Papley was playing, which we'll get into, was going to go to Papley and use his speed on him there and keep the tools as is, and then hard we can go forward all this and that blah blah blah, but no, no Papley. So we just see how that sort of back six operates against the Sydney forward line.

Good cor mat Is it slightly small? If anything? That defense our defense? Yeah, why is Jarman he be starting at center half backs?

Good cor mat Is it slightly small? If anything? That defense our defense? Yeah, why is Jarman he be starting at center half backs?

No, he's in like you don't but if you look at the if you look at the back line as a whole, Hardwick's undersized. I know he plays like as a bag who plays Hardwicks undersize not over one nine.

No, he's in like you don't but if you look at the if you look at the back line as a whole, Hardwick's undersized. I know he plays like as a bag who plays Hardwicks undersize not over one nine.

Yeah, but he's not one on one player. I don't know. You've got battle and battle and barrassa one on one.

Yeah, but he's not one on one player. I don't know. You've got battle and battle and barrassa one on one.

But to be fair, the Sydney forward line is pretty spot is pretty small, like automic.

But to be fair, the Sydney forward line is pretty spot is pretty small, like automic.

I think if anything, were oversized back line really, but I think it gives I think our forward line is definitely undersized for sure. Like you look at that, yeah, I know, like that's not going to be the starting six forwards. But Charles the only one there over Nash is tall but he won't play forward. Charles the only one there over like one ninety.

I think if anything, were oversized back line really, but I think it gives I think our forward line is definitely undersized for sure. Like you look at that, yeah, I know, like that's not going to be the starting six forwards. But Charles the only one there over Nash is tall but he won't play forward. Charles the only one there over like one ninety.

This lineup is so.

This lineup is so.

I know you're saying it doesn't matter, but this is like because usually you say it doesn't matter to the lineup because there's like one or two weird spots.

I know you're saying it doesn't matter, but this is like because usually you say it doesn't matter to the lineup because there's like one or two weird spots.

There's like six or seven bugs here in the wrong position.

There's like six or seven bugs here in the wrong position.

Okay, do you want me to tell you where these guys will? Oh, we don't have to go to all of them, but it'll take ten seconds.

Okay, do you want me to tell you where these guys will? Oh, we don't have to go to all of them, but it'll take ten seconds.

Hard.

Hard.

We could be forward.

We could be forward.

We'll put Morrison on the wing, Sisily back Day on ball stop with more.

We'll put Morrison on the wing, Sisily back Day on ball stop with more.

That's it. That's literally it. Okay, don't read into it. Mate's just a bit of time on the Sydney side. They're obviously a little bit under man. They've they've got some injuries.

That's it. That's literally it. Okay, don't read into it. Mate's just a bit of time on the Sydney side. They're obviously a little bit under man. They've they've got some injuries.

Yeah, we'll speaking to Alex previously, he says five or six of the best twenty three you're probably out in this game.

Yeah, we'll speaking to Alex previously, he says five or six of the best twenty three you're probably out in this game.

That Eryl Grundy is Grundy. And actually that's good.

That Eryl Grundy is Grundy. And actually that's good.

That's something that's good for my supergost draft team as well. Yes, but still this it's still a fairly decent team that you'd expect to at least get a not I wouldn't say get up the line, but at least put up a very decent five.

That's something that's good for my supergost draft team as well. Yes, but still this it's still a fairly decent team that you'd expect to at least get a not I wouldn't say get up the line, but at least put up a very decent five.

If they are to lose against this up well, yeah.

If they are to lose against this up well, yeah.

But you still got You've still got players like Isaac Keeney, Chad Warner, Cheeks from the show.

But you still got You've still got players like Isaac Keeney, Chad Warner, Cheeks from the show.

Robot be surprised if he goes to like Nukem or something and just plays a little in the aiding roles.

Robot be surprised if he goes to like Nukem or something and just plays a little in the aiding roles.

And Oli Floren of course, who was just on the show we interviewed yesterday, so check that out if you haven't already.

And Oli Floren of course, who was just on the show we interviewed yesterday, so check that out if you haven't already.

Yeah, they got the depth still, they've got aways talking about before the show. All the young guys are actually anger. Sheldrick getting a game round one, Alex will be loving this. I think that's a good thing. He killed it in the preseason. Ben Patten Peyton or Patten.

Yeah, they got the depth still, they've got aways talking about before the show. All the young guys are actually anger. Sheldrick getting a game round one, Alex will be loving this. I think that's a good thing. He killed it in the preseason. Ben Patten Peyton or Patten.

I'm not sure. I'm gonna say.

I'm not sure. I'm gonna say.

I think he's a bit older though, because he came from Saint Kilda. Oh that's true. But the other one there is Corey Warner.

I think he's a bit older though, because he came from Saint Kilda. Oh that's true. But the other one there is Corey Warner.

Now.

Now.

Yes, we obviously interviewed Oli Floren yesterday on yesterday's show clip going out tomorrow as well. From that show that talked about the two breakout players for Sydney this year being Sheldrick and Corey Warner. Yes, so you get to see both of them tomorrow night, Swans fans. And to be honest, I can't argue with feign on that one. Like Sheldrick, he's a beefy boy. We call him beef Sheldrick Corey Warner like if you've got blood relations to chadwarn Yeah, Like that says enough, you know what I mean?

Yes, we obviously interviewed Oli Floren yesterday on yesterday's show clip going out tomorrow as well. From that show that talked about the two breakout players for Sydney this year being Sheldrick and Corey Warner. Yes, so you get to see both of them tomorrow night, Swans fans. And to be honest, I can't argue with feign on that one. Like Sheldrick, he's a beefy boy. We call him beef Sheldrick Corey Warner like if you've got blood relations to chadwarn Yeah, Like that says enough, you know what I mean?

And we've got debut Tom Ludds for Sydney. Yes game. Tom Handley fteen year old forward? Is he Wiley Lear you always liked to use. I don't know much about him. He's honest. Yeah, I think their aim is for forward pressure. He's like a mini Papilio.

And we've got debut Tom Ludds for Sydney. Yes game. Tom Handley fteen year old forward? Is he Wiley Lear you always liked to use. I don't know much about him. He's honest. Yeah, I think their aim is for forward pressure. He's like a mini Papilio.

I reckon he's going to make the Papily replacement Papily replacements playing.

I reckon he's going to make the Papily replacement Papily replacements playing.

Is there you go? So all these rumors of injuries.

Is there you go? So all these rumors of injuries.

Take back what I said about frost half of them, mar Yeah, because Frostol could play on Papily at times.

Take back what I said about frost half of them, mar Yeah, because Frostol could play on Papily at times.

There we go, that's interesting, There we go. That's the teams.

There we go, that's interesting, There we go. That's the teams.

Actually, before we finished off with the teams, Jake lloydswohundred and fiftieth game, Lloyd would say, what do you mean? He's had a really good career under he always hit the target.

Actually, before we finished off with the teams, Jake lloydswohundred and fiftieth game, Lloyd would say, what do you mean? He's had a really good career under he always hit the target.

And he will be remembered for peak pig in peak pig and super coats.

And he will be remembered for peak pig in peak pig and super coats.

And super coach in fantasy.

And super coach in fantasy.

Actually, I'm going to ask you this later. I don't even know, Like what does it mean by a pig.

Actually, I'm going to ask you this later. I don't even know, Like what does it mean by a pig.

Like you just rack it up in the back line, like Jack Zebra a couple of years ago, because he just chipped it around and got the kick mark.

Like you just rack it up in the back line, like Jack Zebra a couple of years ago, because he just chipped it around and got the kick mark.

I thought it stood for something, but no, probably not pretty well.

I thought it stood for something, but no, probably not pretty well.

Jack Zebel's moved to the forard was pretty It was one of the worst position changes in recent memory, moving jacksonevil into the forward line.

Jack Zebel's moved to the forard was pretty It was one of the worst position changes in recent memory, moving jacksonevil into the forward line.

But he started as a forwarding.

But he started as a forwarding.

He was dominated for us, wasn't he started and the med sorry mid forward he won the end of.

He was dominated for us, wasn't he started and the med sorry mid forward he won the end of.

His career like he was a beast that could be a second best half back for a few changes that ruined people.

His career like he was a beast that could be a second best half back for a few changes that ruined people.

Super coach, super coach got in the way of people's minds and beast it back on.

Super coach, super coach got in the way of people's minds and beast it back on.

He wasn't He was a crape like he was. He was a terrible defender. Anyway.

He wasn't He was a crape like he was. He was a terrible defender. Anyway.

Anyway, that's enough for the teams. Let's have a look at tab with the odds. Here we've got Sydney versus Hawthorne Sydney a dollar eighty five, so really really close in the odds with Hawthorne at a dollar ninety five, one of my best bets, and I'm looking I'm gonna have two best bets in this one. My first best bet is the under one hundred and sixty nine and a half, so that's the total points at a dollar ninety really good odds. I think some of the other bookies have them like dollar eighty five around that mark, but this one is on tab at a dollar ninety. The eight of the hawks last nine away matches have actually gone under the total points.

Anyway, that's enough for the teams. Let's have a look at tab with the odds. Here we've got Sydney versus Hawthorne Sydney a dollar eighty five, so really really close in the odds with Hawthorne at a dollar ninety five, one of my best bets, and I'm looking I'm gonna have two best bets in this one. My first best bet is the under one hundred and sixty nine and a half, so that's the total points at a dollar ninety really good odds. I think some of the other bookies have them like dollar eighty five around that mark, but this one is on tab at a dollar ninety. The eight of the hawks last nine away matches have actually gone under the total points.

I'm going under in this one as well.

I'm going under in this one as well.

You bring in brass, you bring in battle, and you just got a much better defense for the Hawks. And then you know what, Sydney, Sydney with a number one offense and number one defense, first round of the year. I don't think it's going to be massive scoring Amari. He takes a wild fire up, he's not going to kick his ten goals, So I'm going to under as my.

You bring in brass, you bring in battle, and you just got a much better defense for the Hawks. And then you know what, Sydney, Sydney with a number one offense and number one defense, first round of the year. I don't think it's going to be massive scoring Amari. He takes a wild fire up, he's not going to kick his ten goals, So I'm going to under as my.

First best bet.

First best bet.

The player best bet that I'm looking at is Chad Warner two plus goals three dollars seventy five. He's actually done it in his last five Friday night game. So under the lights, Chanley Warner he just fires up. He's going to kick two goals. He can kick it from about sixty meters when he's bursting out of the pack. I think he's a perfect matchup against the Hawks. Two goals, three dollars, seventy five bit extra value there with Tad there we go.

The player best bet that I'm looking at is Chad Warner two plus goals three dollars seventy five. He's actually done it in his last five Friday night game. So under the lights, Chanley Warner he just fires up. He's going to kick two goals. He can kick it from about sixty meters when he's bursting out of the pack. I think he's a perfect matchup against the Hawks. Two goals, three dollars, seventy five bit extra value there with Tad there we go.

All right, what do you reckon, lads? Is Chundley Warner? Can he kick two goals? What do you reckon? On the under?

All right, what do you reckon, lads? Is Chundley Warner? Can he kick two goals? What do you reckon? On the under?

I think Chad Warner will kick two goals. I just think Hawthorn sometimes are susceptible to that game breaking mid and Chad Warner could be like nine touches thirty percent efficiency at halftime and then he just comes out kicks two goals.

I think Chad Warner will kick two goals. I just think Hawthorn sometimes are susceptible to that game breaking mid and Chad Warner could be like nine touches thirty percent efficiency at halftime and then he just comes out kicks two goals.

In a minute and you're like, yeah, I'm more going for that.

In a minute and you're like, yeah, I'm more going for that.

Yeah, live while just in a quarter where he has quarters where he has like ten touches and two can.

Yeah, live while just in a quarter where he has quarters where he has like ten touches and two can.

Even just start the game on fire, and you're just like, oh, this is just for me.

Even just start the game on fire, and you're just like, oh, this is just for me.

It'd be awful.

It'd be awful.

Also, yeah, I feel like if the game is to go that way though, like both really fast, that suits Hawthorne.

Also, yeah, I feel like if the game is to go that way though, like both really fast, that suits Hawthorne.

A little bit more. I think would be one of Warner or Heeney to kick the two.

A little bit more. I think would be one of Warner or Heeney to kick the two.

Yeah, you know, I can't complain with that.

Yeah, you know, I can't complain with that.

That's pretty good, very nice.

That's pretty good, very nice.

And then, like I I was talking about the total points and things like that, what do you guys, reckon, is it going.

And then, like I I was talking about the total points and things like that, what do you guys, reckon, is it going.

To be a high scoring game?

To be a high scoring game?

I like the under as well. Yeah, yeah, I just think the first game of the year. Yeah, just the key the key. Defensive stocks are pretty good for both sides.

I like the under as well. Yeah, yeah, I just think the first game of the year. Yeah, just the key the key. Defensive stocks are pretty good for both sides.

Probably more Hawthorne Hawthorne.

Probably more Hawthorne Hawthorne.

Now Sydney is a system defend typically really well in at home as well.

Now Sydney is a system defend typically really well in at home as well.

So yeah, I like it.

So yeah, I like it.

I'm a little bit worried about the Hawks with these stats, Leo, so you can we can talk about these. Sydney have won the last five season opener, so they love a season opener. The last meeting against the Hawks they won by seventy six points. But straight after this, the Hawks then won seven of their next eight matches, and it's like, oh, we got smashed by city and then they just catapult.

I'm a little bit worried about the Hawks with these stats, Leo, so you can we can talk about these. Sydney have won the last five season opener, so they love a season opener. The last meeting against the Hawks they won by seventy six points. But straight after this, the Hawks then won seven of their next eight matches, and it's like, oh, we got smashed by city and then they just catapult.

Can I just say something, and I'm going to cop some slack for this. We weren't actually that bad in that Sydney game.

Can I just say something, and I'm going to cop some slack for this. We weren't actually that bad in that Sydney game.

Was seventy six. We weren't that bad.

Was seventy six. We weren't that bad.

And the previous three meetings between Sydney you've lost by an average margin of sixty six.

And the previous three meetings between Sydney you've lost by an average margin of sixty six.

Yeah, but that includes the other two. The other two times you might have been bad. But I'm telling you we weren't that bad. I was at the game.

Yeah, but that includes the other two. The other two times you might have been bad. But I'm telling you we weren't that bad. I was at the game.

Can I just say one thing? You can't lose by seventy six and say.

Can I just say one thing? You can't lose by seventy six and say.

Hang on, I'm getting the stats up. I just have to because I remember watching it. And Sam Mitchell after the game even said, and he got crucified for this, that if you were watching the game without scores, you would say the Hawthorne team wasn't.

Hang on, I'm getting the stats up. I just have to because I remember watching it. And Sam Mitchell after the game even said, and he got crucified for this, that if you were watching the game without scores, you would say the Hawthorne team wasn't.

Doing that badly.

Doing that badly.

If you lose a game by thirteen goals the expected score was like four goal margin in favor of Sydney, we still deserve to lose.

If you lose a game by thirteen goals the expected score was like four goal margin in favor of Sydney, we still deserve to lose.

Well, don't bring in x G.

Well, don't bring in x G.

X.

X.

I'll say that one thing. When I have an x G on this Thursday shot.

I'll say that one thing. When I have an x G on this Thursday shot.

We only had.

We only had.

We only had three less inside fifties. So that's all I'm saying. We weren't that bad. It was just yeah, you's still have bad areas of the game.

We only had three less inside fifties. So that's all I'm saying. We weren't that bad. It was just yeah, you's still have bad areas of the game.

But like, can I say one thing that backs you up as a club? You don't even have that? Isn't that is the old Hawthorne because since you lost that game, yeah, since you find out it is, since you lost that game, you went on to win seven of your next day. Then you won like twelve of eleven of your next thirty and some that. Yeah, and then you're dominating. You made the finals and did pretty well there. So I don't even think Hawks fans have to worry about that. But just an interesting stat that what Marcus said as well, average of sixty six points in the last three meetings.

But like, can I say one thing that backs you up as a club? You don't even have that? Isn't that is the old Hawthorne because since you lost that game, yeah, since you find out it is, since you lost that game, you went on to win seven of your next day. Then you won like twelve of eleven of your next thirty and some that. Yeah, and then you're dominating. You made the finals and did pretty well there. So I don't even think Hawks fans have to worry about that. But just an interesting stat that what Marcus said as well, average of sixty six points in the last three meetings.

This one that was when one or.

This one that was when one or.

Two they do playoffs, well they play match up really well.

Two they do playoffs, well they play match up really well.

Yeah. Yeah. And the other one I wanted to put.

Yeah. Yeah. And the other one I wanted to put.

In there just for a little player stat was Massimo mass de Ambrosio. He had twenty five plus disposals four of his last five games.

In there just for a little player stat was Massimo mass de Ambrosio. He had twenty five plus disposals four of his last five games.

Direct and he can back it up from last season. I think he can. I think he can.

Direct and he can back it up from last season. I think he can. I think he can.

It might be a bit tougher on the SCG, just with how Sydney play it. I know it's not that different, all right, Calm down now.

It might be a bit tougher on the SCG, just with how Sydney play it. I know it's not that different, all right, Calm down now.

He's the one that always says it's smaller.

He's the one that always says it's smaller.

Oh, I don't really care, Like, just play footy on it exactly right, But it's just small. How Sydney set up I think could stifle the Ambrosio a bit.

Oh, I don't really care, Like, just play footy on it exactly right, But it's just small. How Sydney set up I think could stifle the Ambrosio a bit.

He'll play better at the g for sure.

He'll play better at the g for sure.

Actually, I might ask you this one to finish off before we give our our own tips for the winner.

Actually, I might ask you this one to finish off before we give our our own tips for the winner.

Who's going to be the standout players in this one?

Who's going to be the standout players in this one?

That's good because we always like talking about stand up players on our crickets at a show.

That's good because we always like talking about stand up players on our crickets at a show.