Introductions & welcome 

Ground rules for this debate episode 

Is NYC's socialist experiment a good idea?

Is it ok to pull grants from blue states?

New Jersey's voter registration cover-up

Trump, Israel, and the war with Iran

Debrief: learning and lingering questions

Closing thoughts & credits 

Moni is liberal. Travis Tripodi is conservative libertarian. Much of what he supports terrifies her… and vice versa. But when Trump returned in 2025, they knew they had to talk. In a new A Braver Way experiment, the two friends let you in on what’s become a critical exercise: bringing each other the headlines that bother them most, saying what they really believe, and having it out.

This isn’t a tidy debate or performance of “civility”. In good faith clashes over everything from socialism to political retaliation, Moni and Travis push, challenge, and *try* to listen even when they hate what they hear. Then, they debrief: Did Moni get too mad — or not mad enough? Did Travis listen, or just assume he did? And in all that heat, did they find any light? Note: This conversation was recorded on July 30.

Show notes with full credits, links and transcript can be found here: https://www.reclaimcuriosity.com/post/a-braver-way-episode-26

Moni is liberal. Travis Tripodi is conservative libertarian. Much of what he supports terrifies her&hellip; and vice versa. But when Trump returned in 2025, they knew they had to talk. In a new A Braver Way experiment, the two friends let you in on what&rsquo;s become a critical exercise: bringing each other the headlines that bother them most, saying what they really believe, and having it out.
This isn&rsquo;t a tidy debate or performance of &ldquo;civility&rdquo;. In good faith clashes over everything from socialism to political retaliation, Moni and Travis push, challenge, and *try* to listen even when they hate what they hear. Then, they debrief: Did Moni get too mad &mdash; or not mad enough? Did Travis listen, or just assume he did? And in all that heat, did they find any light?&nbsp;Note: This conversation was recorded on July 30.
Show notes with full credits, links and transcript can be found here: https://www.reclaimcuriosity.com/post/a-braver-way-episode-26

With political tensions at a new peak, it can be tough — and exhausting — to find a way forward. So what does it take to stay strong, engaged, and grounded in dangerously divided times?

In each episode, host Mónica Guzmán joins guests from across the political spectrum. Together they’ll share tools, insights, and messy real-life stories to help you navigate the challenging divides in your everyday life without losing heart.

With political tensions at a new peak, it can be tough &mdash; and exhausting &mdash; to find a way forward. So what does it take to stay strong, engaged, and grounded in dangerously divided times?
In each episode, host M&oacute;nica Guzm&aacute;n joins guests from across the political spectrum. Together they&rsquo;ll share tools, insights, and messy real-life stories to help you navigate the challenging divides in your everyday life without losing heart.