On July 13, 2026, President Trump announced new reductions of Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monuments, removing protections from nearly three million acres. The action again places Tribal cultural landscapes, wildlife habitat, watersheds and public lands at risk from mining, drilling and other development.
Writer Morgan Sjogren joins Chris Clarke from southern Utah. Sjogren has traveled these landscapes extensively and written about Glen Canyon, uranium mining and the conflicting legacies carried by public lands. She describes the disorienting contrast between an enormous political assault and the apparent quiet of the country itself.
The conversation also considers what landscape-scale knowledge provides: an understanding that rivers, mesas, wildlife, plant communities, rural towns and Indigenous homelands cannot be separated by conveniently redrawn lines on a government map.
Key Takeaways
Notable Quotes
“The air is filled with tension, and the noise is mostly online, but outside it’s eerily quiet.”
“Monuments are one of the most robust protections we have for rivers in this country.”
“I’ve been getting to know my riverside neighbors: both the human and more-than-human, plant communities, wildlife, Tribes, rural Americans, urbanites, farmers.”
“Vote like this landscape and our lives depend upon it.”
About Morgan Sjogren
Morgan Sjogren is a writer, adventurer and longtime traveler through the landscapes of the Colorado Plateau. Her books include Path of Light: A Walk Through Colliding Legacies of Glen Canyon, Outlandish: Fuel Your Epic, and The Best Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument Hikes.
Resources

S5E27: Sonoran Toads and the Dirty Business of Ego Death
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S5E27: Sonoran Toads and the Dirty Business of Ego Death [subscribers cut]
1:00:43

S5E26: Maps, Vanished Lakes, and Two Desert Squirrels
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