In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke provides valuable insights into the impact of government shutdowns on national parks, especially those within desert regions. The episode opens with a beautiful recording of a hermit thrush by nature sound artist Fred Bell, setting a serene and reflective tone for discussing the challenges facing these national treasures during shutdowns. Clarke advises listeners to reconsider visiting national parks until they are fully operational again due to the strain on park staff and resources, leading to potential environmental degradation and safety risks.

Chris shares insights from retired park rangers and discusses the alarming consequences of a strained park system, such as vandalism, inadequate maintenance of amenities, and risks posed by decreased ranger presence. Clarke also emphasizes the economic implications for local communities reliant on park tourism, highlighting examples of local businesses adapting by offering alternative tours outside national parks. Additionally, he encourages listeners to explore other natural and historical sites managed by different entities, thus somewhat preserving the economic stability of local regions while respecting and protecting national parks during these challenging times.

Key Takeaways:
National parks face significant challenges during government shutdowns, leading to environmental and safety risks.
Vandalism, lack of maintenance, and potential visitor accidents are heightened without adequate park staffing.
Retired park rangers advocate for closing parks entirely during shutdowns to protect resources.
Local businesses and tour operators offer alternative experiences outside national parks to mitigate economic impacts.
Visitors can explore nearby state parks, county parks, and BLM lands as responsible alternatives.

Notable Quotes:
"As someone who lives a five minute drive from an extremely popular national park, it's disturbing to me that the Secretary of the Interior has basically ordered parks to stay as open as possible during the shutdown." - Chris Clarke
"These landscapes, these cultural resources, these historical resources are all vulnerable. And right now they don't have enough guardians watching over them." - Chris Clarke
"During the last long shutdown, there was vandalism in Joshua Tree. There's spray painting on rocks, damage and theft of artifacts and cultural items." - Chris Clarke
"We can use it as an excuse to give those animals another break. It's been five years since they had one. Maybe we think about this as a good moment to give the land and the beings that live there another chance to breathe." - Chris Clarke
"The landscapes around the parks are amazing in their own right, and your spending there will still support the local economy without adding pressure to the national parks." - Chris Clarke

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In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke provides valuable insights into the impact of government shutdowns on national parks, especially those within desert regions. The episode opens with a beautiful recording of a hermit thrush by nature sound artist Fred Bell, setting a serene and reflective tone for discussing the challenges facing these national treasures during shutdowns. Clarke advises listeners to reconsider visiting national parks until they are fully operational again due to the strain on park staff and resources, leading to potential environmental degradation and safety risks.
Chris shares insights from retired park rangers and discusses the alarming consequences of a strained park system, such as vandalism, inadequate maintenance of amenities, and risks posed by decreased ranger presence. Clarke also emphasizes the economic implications for local communities reliant on park tourism, highlighting examples of local businesses adapting by offering alternative tours outside national parks. Additionally, he encourages listeners to explore other natural and historical sites managed by different entities, thus somewhat preserving the economic stability of local regions while respecting and protecting national parks during these challenging times.
Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>National parks face significant challenges during government shutdowns, leading to environmental and safety risks.</li>
<li>Vandalism, lack of maintenance, and potential visitor accidents are heightened without adequate park staffing.</li>
<li>Retired park rangers advocate for closing parks entirely during shutdowns to protect resources.</li>
<li>Local businesses and tour operators offer alternative experiences outside national parks to mitigate economic impacts.</li>
<li>Visitors can explore nearby state parks, county parks, and BLM lands as responsible alternatives.</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ol>
<li>"As someone who lives a five minute drive from an extremely popular national park, it's disturbing to me that the Secretary of the Interior has basically ordered parks to stay as open as possible during the shutdown." - Chris Clarke</li>
<li>"These landscapes, these cultural resources, these historical resources are all vulnerable. And right now they don't have enough guardians watching over them." - Chris Clarke</li>
<li>"During the last long shutdown, there was vandalism in Joshua Tree. There's spray painting on rocks, damage and theft of artifacts and cultural items." - Chris Clarke</li>
<li>"We can use it as an excuse to give those animals another break. It's been five years since they had one. Maybe we think about this as a good moment to give the land and the beings that live there another chance to breathe." - Chris Clarke</li>
<li>"The landscapes around the parks are amazing in their own right, and your spending there will still support the local economy without adding pressure to the national parks." - Chris Clarke</li>
</ol>
Resources:
<ul>
<li>90 Miles from Needles Podcast: [90milesfromneedles.com](https://90milesfromneedles.com)</li>
<li>Desert Protection Podcast Social Media: Facebook&nbsp;<a href="https://facebook.com/ninetymilesfromneedles">https://facebook.com/ninetymilesfromneedles</a>&nbsp; Instagram&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/90mifromneedles/">https://www.instagram.com/90mifromneedles/</a> BlueSky <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/90milesfromneedles.com">https://bsky.app/profile/90milesfromneedles.com</a> Threads <a href="https://www.threads.com/@90mifromneedles">https://www.threads.com/@90mifromneedles</a></li>
</ul>

Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

Vital info on protecting our irrepaceable deserts

90 Miles from Needles: the Desert Protection Podcast

Join host Chris Clarke and guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice.

Join host Chris Clarke and guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice.

With reduced staffing, National Parks in the American Deserts face risks of vandalism and inadequate visitor safety.

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