Chris enjoys the desert at its hottest. Alicia, on the other hand, is closer to sanity. Both of them treat desert heat with respect. We talk about how to make sure your time in the desert doesn't end in tragedy. The desert needs its defenders alive! 

Chris enjoys the desert at its hottest. Alicia, on the other hand, is closer to sanity. Both of them treat desert heat with respect. We talk about how to make sure your time in the desert doesn't end in tragedy. The desert needs its defenders alive!

Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

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90 Miles from Needles: the Desert Protection Podcast

Join host Chris Clarke and guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice.

Join host Chris Clarke and guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice.

S1E13: Don't Die Today: Heat in the Desert

In this episode of the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast, host Chris Clarke engages in a thought-provoking discussion with guest Rick LoBello about ambitious conservation strategies along the U.S.-Mexico border. Rick shares insights into his life-long campaign to establish a transboundary protected area encompassing Big Bend National Park, Big Bend Ranch State Park, and several protected regions in Mexico. Despite the current political climate, Rick’s vision emphasizes the possibility of international cooperation in conservation efforts as a means to foster better cross-border relationships and protect vital ecosystems.

Throughout the episode, the conversation traverses a wide range of fascinating topics such as the historical context of the international park proposal and natural wonders of the Big Bend region. The dialogue also highlights the challenges and opportunities in bridging conservation efforts across borders, particularly considering the complex socio-political dynamics. Rick stresses the importance of collaborative frameworks, engaging with local communities, and leveraging relationships to advance conservation initiatives. He draws on past examples of successful cross-border collaborations and provides a roadmap for future actions.

Key Takeaways:


Transboundary Conservation Vision: Rick LoBello shares his initiative to promote a transboundary protected area involving U.S. and Mexican protected lands, aiming for improved environmental preservation and cultural cooperation.


The Role of Local Communities: Local Mexican communities like those in Boquillas del Carmen play a crucial role in conservation efforts, showcasing the importance of community engagement in international environmental initiatives.


Unique Biodiversity: The Big Bend region boasts a rich diversity of wildlife which includes black bears, desert bighorn sheep, and a wide range of plant life, underscoring its value as a conservation priority.


Successful Cross-Border Collaboration: Historical precedents suggest that meaningful, structured collaboration between countries can address mutual conservation challenges effectively, despite political headwinds.


Educational Outreach: Rick’s efforts to increase awareness of Chihuahuan Desert biodiversity through initiatives like the El Paso Wildlife Conservation Society and educational events highlight the critical need for public knowledge in conservation success.

Notable Quotes:


"I've made it a mission in my life to do all I can to help make [a transboundary protected area] a reality."


"People need to know each other and people need to trust each other if we're going to make progress."


"The black bear told us that the environment can heal, and there's hope for other species too."


"My main concern when it comes to development is that it be done in a way that's ecologically sensitive."


"If they know it and they love it, then they're going to want to protect it."

Resources:


Chihuahuan Desert Education Coalition


El Paso Wildlife Conservation Society


Chihuahuan Desert Conference: Visit Chihuahua Desert Conference for details on upcoming events.

Listeners are encouraged to tune into the full episode to explore more about Rick LoBello's inspiring proposals for cross-border conservation, and to stay updated with upcoming episodes of "90 Miles from Needles" for more engaging cont

In this episode of the "90 Miles from Needles" podcast, host Chris Clarke engages in a thought-provoking discussion with guest Rick LoBello about ambitious conservation strategies along the U.S.-Mexico border. Rick shares insights into his life-long campaign to establish a transboundary protected area encompassing Big Bend National Park, Big Bend Ranch State Park, and several protected regions in Mexico. Despite the current political climate, Rick&rsquo;s vision emphasizes the possibility of international cooperation in conservation efforts as a means to foster better cross-border relationships and protect vital ecosystems.
Throughout the episode, the conversation traverses a wide range of fascinating topics such as the historical context of the international park proposal and natural wonders of the Big Bend region. The dialogue also highlights the challenges and opportunities in bridging conservation efforts across borders, particularly considering the complex socio-political dynamics. Rick stresses the importance of collaborative frameworks, engaging with local communities, and leveraging relationships to advance conservation initiatives. He draws on past examples of successful cross-border collaborations and provides a roadmap for future actions.
Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>
Transboundary Conservation Vision: Rick LoBello shares his initiative to promote a transboundary protected area involving U.S. and Mexican protected lands, aiming for improved environmental preservation and cultural cooperation.
</li>
<li>
The Role of Local Communities: Local Mexican communities like those in Boquillas del Carmen play a crucial role in conservation efforts, showcasing the importance of community engagement in international environmental initiatives.
</li>
<li>
Unique Biodiversity: The Big Bend region boasts a rich diversity of wildlife which includes black bears, desert bighorn sheep, and a wide range of plant life, underscoring its value as a conservation priority.
</li>
<li>
Successful Cross-Border Collaboration: Historical precedents suggest that meaningful, structured collaboration between countries can address mutual conservation challenges effectively, despite political headwinds.
</li>
<li>
Educational Outreach: Rick&rsquo;s efforts to increase awareness of Chihuahuan Desert biodiversity through initiatives like the El Paso Wildlife Conservation Society and educational events highlight the critical need for public knowledge in conservation success.
</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ul>
<li>
"I've made it a mission in my life to do all I can to help make [a transboundary protected area] a reality."
</li>
<li>
"People need to know each other and people need to trust each other if we're going to make progress."
</li>
<li>
"The black bear told us that the environment can heal, and there's hope for other species too."
</li>
<li>
"My main concern when it comes to development is that it be done in a way that's ecologically sensitive."
</li>
<li>
"If they know it and they love it, then they're going to want to protect it."
</li>
</ul>
Resources:
<ul>
<li>
<a href="https://chihuahuandesert.org">Chihuahuan Desert Education Coalition</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://elpasowildlifeconservationsociety.com">El Paso Wildlife Conservation Society</a>
</li>
<li>
Chihuahuan Desert Conference: Visit <a href="https://chihuahuandesertconference.org">Chihuahua Desert Conference</a> for details on upcoming events.
</li>
</ul>
Listeners are encouraged to tune into the full episode to explore more about Rick LoBello's inspiring proposals for cross-border conservation, and to stay updated with upcoming episodes of "90 Miles from Needles" for more engaging cont

Join host Chris Clarke as he explores the inspiring vision of establishing a transboundary network of protected areas across the US-Mexico border with guest Rick LoBello, Education and Conservation Director at the El Paso Zoo. Chris and Rick discuss efforts to connect Big Bend National Park with neighboring protected areas in Texas, Chihuahua, and Coahuila, fostering cooperation for conservation amid challenging politics. Discover the fascinating wildlife, conservation challenges, and potential benefits of this ambitious cross-border collaboration, while highlighting the unique community bonds in the Chihuahuan Desert region.

S5E2: Cross-Border Conservation in the Big Bend Ecoregion

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke looks into the contentious topic of a proposed AI data center in Imperial County, California. As the largest project of its kind proposed in the state, local residents, led by community advocates like Gilberto Manzanarez of Valle Imperial Resiste, express concerns over the establishment's potential environmental and social impacts. The discussion emphasizes the community's grassroots efforts to halt the project through public awareness and strategic mobilization against a backdrop of economic challenges in one of California's most underrepresented regions.

The episode offers a first-hand account of the local opposition to the data center, with residents citing noise pollution, potential environmental degradation, and the betrayal of municipal promises regarding water and electricity resources. Gilberto Manzanarez shares insights on the movement he represents, explaining the importance of community-driven advocacy against powerful interests. The episode underscores ongoing battles for environmental justice and the struggle for local communities to safeguard their living conditions against speculative developments with uncertain long-term consequences.

Key Takeaways:


Gilberto Manzanarez and his organization, Valle Imperial Resiste, advocate for grassroots mobilization to oppose a proposed AI data center in Imperial County due to its potential negative impacts.


Residents voiced concerns about noise pollution, diminished property values, and uncertain environmental repercussions during a contentious Imperial County Planning Commission meeting.


The Planning Commission's decision to delay the project and set up workshops reflects local pushback and the effort to educate and engage the community more meaningfully in decision-making.


The episode highlights broader issues surrounding data centers, including the socio-environmental considerations lacking in many current developmental plans, as seen through examples from other U.S. cities.


A call for a moratorium on data center projects until comprehensive policies are in place signals a movement toward more cautious and community-focused development practices.

Notable Quotes:


“This is no exception. The LLC that's trying to put the project here was only established one year ago. It's a playbook that's been played out in the entire country.”


“One of the things that I noticed, was that there was a lack of information that these organizations gathered, but that information never really made it out to the people.”


“I come from a town called Calexico, California... I'm not putting my entire faith in electeds right now.”


“We want a comprehensive policy revolving around data centers around the Imperial County.”

Resources:


Valle Imperial Resiste Instagram


Valle Imperial Resiste Website


GoFundMe Campaign for NIMBY Imperial

Listeners are encouraged to tune into the full episode to grasp the complexities and emotional currents of this important local issue.

In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke looks into the contentious topic of a proposed AI data center in Imperial County, California. As the largest project of its kind proposed in the state, local residents, led by community advocates like Gilberto Manzanarez of Valle Imperial Resiste, express concerns over the establishment's potential environmental and social impacts. The discussion emphasizes the community's grassroots efforts to halt the project through public awareness and strategic mobilization against a backdrop of economic challenges in one of California's most underrepresented regions.
The episode offers a first-hand account of the local opposition to the data center, with residents citing noise pollution, potential environmental degradation, and the betrayal of municipal promises regarding water and electricity resources. Gilberto Manzanarez shares insights on the movement he represents, explaining the importance of community-driven advocacy against powerful interests. The episode underscores ongoing battles for environmental justice and the struggle for local communities to safeguard their living conditions against speculative developments with uncertain long-term consequences.
Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>
Gilberto Manzanarez and his organization, Valle Imperial Resiste, advocate for grassroots mobilization to oppose a proposed AI data center in Imperial County due to its potential negative impacts.
</li>
<li>
Residents voiced concerns about noise pollution, diminished property values, and uncertain environmental repercussions during a contentious Imperial County Planning Commission meeting.
</li>
<li>
The Planning Commission's decision to delay the project and set up workshops reflects local pushback and the effort to educate and engage the community more meaningfully in decision-making.
</li>
<li>
The episode highlights broader issues surrounding data centers, including the socio-environmental considerations lacking in many current developmental plans, as seen through examples from other U.S. cities.
</li>
<li>
A call for a moratorium on data center projects until comprehensive policies are in place signals a movement toward more cautious and community-focused development practices.
</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ol>
<li>
&ldquo;This is no exception. The LLC that's trying to put the project here was only established one year ago. It's a playbook that's been played out in the entire country.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;One of the things that I noticed, was that there was a lack of information that these organizations gathered, but that information never really made it out to the people.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;I come from a town called Calexico, California... I'm not putting my entire faith in electeds right now.&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;We want a comprehensive policy revolving around data centers around the Imperial County.&rdquo;
</li>
</ol>
Resources:
<ul>
<li>
Valle Imperial Resiste <a href="https://www.instagram.com/valleimperialresiste">Instagram</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.valleimperialresiste.org">Valle Imperial Resiste Website</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/protecting-our-neighborhoods-defending-our-valley">GoFundMe Campaign for NIMBY Imperial</a>
</li>
</ul>
Listeners are encouraged to tune into the full episode to grasp the complexities and emotional currents of this important local issue.

 Joined by guest Gilberto Manzanarez from Valle Imperial Resiste, Chris explores the community's opposition to an AI data center due to potential environmental impacts, including noise pollution and increased water usage. Despite promises of economic growth, residents face uncertainty regarding property values and health concerns. The episode features community voices and insights into local governance challenges, highlighting ongoing efforts to prevent the data center's construction.

S5E1: Standing Up to Tech Giants: Desert Locals vs. California’s Largest Data Center

In this thought-provoking episode of "90 Miles from Needles, the Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke embarks on a journey to unpack the concept of desertification and its implications for environmental policy. Engaging listeners with tales of ecological history and colonial narratives, Chris explores the intersection of science, politics, and public perception in shaping how we view and treat deserts. Through an insightful discussion backed by the work of geographer Diana K. Davis, he urges a rethinking of what constitutes land degradation and calls for a more nuanced understanding that respects the intrinsic value of dry lands.

Chris challenges the prevailing notion that desertification equates to ecological failure and provides a critical examination of how historical and colonial assumptions have influenced modern conservation efforts. He highlights the importance of recognizing deserts as dynamic ecosystems shaped by natural processes and human impact. This episode is an eye-opener for those interested in land use policy, environmental advocacy, and the intricate relationship between culture and ecology.

Key Takeaways:


Desertification Misconceptions: Reframing desertification as land degradation challenges the stereotype of deserts as barren wastelands.


Historical Context: The colonial roots of desertification persist, influencing how we address ecological challenges today.


Policy Implications: Misnaming ecological processes can lead to ineffective conservation measures and exacerbate environmental issues.


Respect for Deserts: Deserts require a holistic approach that values their ecological role and indigenous knowledge.


Call to Action: June 17 could be a day to reimagine our relationship with deserts, focusing on protection rather than remediation.

Notable Quotes:


"Deserts aren't mistakes. They're not broken landscapes. They're ancient living systems shaped by scarcity and timing and restraint."


"When you misname the problem, you reach for the wrong tools. And sometimes... those tools make things worse."


"Deserts need us to listen to people who've lived with aridity for generations."


"The story matters because your choice of story determines the solutions that are available to you."


"Land can be damaged in dry places, but deserts themselves are not damage."

Resources:


Diana K. Davis' Works: Heavily referenced throughout the episode, particularly her book "The Arid Lands."


Book Recommendation: "All the Wild and Lonely Places" by Larry Hogue.


Podcast Website:90 Miles from Needles


Donation Link:Donate to the Podcast

 

In this thought-provoking episode of "90 Miles from Needles, the Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke embarks on a journey to unpack the concept of desertification and its implications for environmental policy. Engaging listeners with tales of ecological history and colonial narratives, Chris explores the intersection of science, politics, and public perception in shaping how we view and treat deserts. Through an insightful discussion backed by the work of geographer Diana K. Davis, he urges a rethinking of what constitutes land degradation and calls for a more nuanced understanding that respects the intrinsic value of dry lands.
Chris challenges the prevailing notion that desertification equates to ecological failure and provides a critical examination of how historical and colonial assumptions have influenced modern conservation efforts. He highlights the importance of recognizing deserts as dynamic ecosystems shaped by natural processes and human impact. This episode is an eye-opener for those interested in land use policy, environmental advocacy, and the intricate relationship between culture and ecology.
Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>
Desertification Misconceptions: Reframing desertification as land degradation challenges the stereotype of deserts as barren wastelands.
</li>
<li>
Historical Context: The colonial roots of desertification persist, influencing how we address ecological challenges today.
</li>
<li>
Policy Implications: Misnaming ecological processes can lead to ineffective conservation measures and exacerbate environmental issues.
</li>
<li>
Respect for Deserts: Deserts require a holistic approach that values their ecological role and indigenous knowledge.
</li>
<li>
Call to Action: June 17 could be a day to reimagine our relationship with deserts, focusing on protection rather than remediation.
</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ul>
<li>
"Deserts aren't mistakes. They're not broken landscapes. They're ancient living systems shaped by scarcity and timing and restraint."
</li>
<li>
"When you misname the problem, you reach for the wrong tools. And sometimes... those tools make things worse."
</li>
<li>
"Deserts need us to listen to people who've lived with aridity for generations."
</li>
<li>
"The story matters because your choice of story determines the solutions that are available to you."
</li>
<li>
"Land can be damaged in dry places, but deserts themselves are not damage."
</li>
</ul>
Resources:
<ul>
<li>
Diana K. Davis' Works: Heavily referenced throughout the episode, particularly her book "<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-arid-lands-history-power-knowledge-diana-k-davis/243d701a3b986b80?ean=9780262333542&amp;amp;next=t">The Arid Lands.</a>"
</li>
<li>
Book Recommendation: "<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=4yLlXAJoD_QC">All the Wild and Lonely Places</a>" by Larry Hogue.
</li>
<li>
Podcast Website: <a href="https://90milesfromneedles.com">90 Miles from Needles</a>
</li>
<li>
Donation Link: <a href="https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate">Donate to the Podcast</a>
</li>
</ul>
&nbsp;

Chris Clarke examines the concept of desertification and its historical and ideological roots. The episode distinguishes between genuine ecological degradation and the misconception that deserts are inherently damaged landscapes. Highlighting insights from geographer Diana K. Davis, it challenges colonial narratives and emphasizes respecting deserts as vibrant ecosystems. Clarke argues for precise language in addressing environmental issues, advocating for proactive desert conservation. The episode concludes with a call to recognize June 17 as Desert Protection Day.

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