The writer Edward Abbey is revered by many desert activists, and roundly criticized by others, all based on the provocative and occasionally offensive things he wrote. Chris and Alicia talk about the prescient and helpful things Abbey wrote, and about the things they wish that neither Abbey nor anyone else had ever said, some of which have gained currency among the most violent practitioners of rightwing politics.

S5E7: The Battle for Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument
41:54

Brief hiatus due to house fire
02:00

S5E6: Ravens and Splitgrass: A Deep Dive into the Mojave's Ecological Challenges
57:33