As Donald Trump tries to hose down criticisms over his mishandling of the Epstein files, some of his most ardent supporters are now turning against him.

For years Donald Trump fueled conspiracy theories related to the notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. For Trump’s MAGA base, his re-election meant finally uncovering the truth about the powerful associates on “Epstein’s list” .

Now, Trump says the  investigation is over, the Epstein list is a “hoax” cooked up by the Democrats, and any supporters who believe there’s more to see are “weaklings”.

Today, tech and power reporter for The Guardian, Nick Robins-Early, on how the Epstein backlash is upending MAGA — and what it means for Trump’s grip on power.

This is part one of a two part interview.

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Guest: Tech and power reporter for The Guardian, Nick Robins-Early