The results in the latest Closing the Gap report are grim.

Only five of the 19 targets are on track, and Indigenous incarceration rates are rising. But is the policy itself part of the problem?

Critics like independent senator Lidia Thorpe argue that Closing the Gap hasn’t delivered change and should be scrapped.

Meanwhile, the government has announced hundreds of millions in new spending, including major investments in remote communities and initiatives to reduce grocery prices in the Northern Territory.

Today, Minister for Indigenous Australians Malarndirri McCarthy on whether Closing the Gap is still working.

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Guest: Minister for Indigenous Australians, Malarndirri McCarthy.

Photo: AAP Image/Amanda Parkinson