On Saturday, an American fighter jet shot down a Chinese surveillance balloon days after it had been spotted over U.S. airspace. What does this tell us about the state of Canada and the Unites States' relationship with China? Retired Major General Scott Clancy, former director of operations for NORAD, joins Vassy Kapelos. 

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