The pain continues to flow amidst Queensland's hospital ramping issues. What is the answer? Well, it seems the politicians can't figure it out... so why don't we try and talk some sense into the issue. Brisbane coffee chain founder Phil deBella has a practical solution that could make a world of a difference. 

<p>The pain continues to flow amidst Queensland's hospital ramping issues. What is the answer? Well, it seems the politicians can't figure it out... so why don't we try and talk some sense into the issue. Brisbane coffee chain founder Phil deBella has a practical solution that could make a world of a difference.&nbsp;</p>

4BC Weekend Breakfast. Discussing and tackling the biggest local issues.

<p>4BC Weekend Breakfast. Discussing and tackling the biggest local issues.</p>

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