Welcome to forties and free Agents. You're limited series show going all the way to the Draft. We're going to talk about Daniel Jeremiah's mock Draft three point zero. But this show has been such a hit early, we've already graduated to the media beef portion of our of our growth. Let's listen to the insiders from our own network who didn't like that DJ was the one breaking some news last week.

Welcome to forties and free Agents. You're limited series show going all the way to the Draft. We're going to talk about Daniel Jeremiah's mock Draft three point zero. But this show has been such a hit early, we've already graduated to the media beef portion of our of our growth. Let's listen to the insiders from our own network who didn't like that DJ was the one breaking some news last week.

Anyway, DJ, You're welcome to scoop tam or sometimes you're in the back of an uber the night before the draft, the DJ's debating between CJ Starter, Will Anderson going to the Texans, and I yell out, how about give him bold and then you take credit for it. You take a little victory lot. I'm just saying, there's a little bit that was meeting.

Anyway, DJ, You're welcome to scoop tam or sometimes you're in the back of an uber the night before the draft, the DJ's debating between CJ Starter, Will Anderson going to the Texans, and I yell out, how about give him bold and then you take credit for it. You take a little victory lot. I'm just saying, there's a little bit that was meeting.

That was more.

That was more.

DJ is the best. Greg is also a person we work with.

DJ is the best. Greg is also a person we work with.

Wow. That's uh, That's that's tough one there, Greg. I will say, I'm here in Frisco at the home of the Dallas Cowboys, a home of an organization said they're going to be selectively aggressive. I feel like Pella Sero's selective memory there with with how that went down on the Houston Texans. But I honestly don't feel that bad the way I came out and that Greg, I thought maybe more of a shot at you there at the end someone we worked with that one. That's a little harsh.

Wow. That's uh, That's that's tough one there, Greg. I will say, I'm here in Frisco at the home of the Dallas Cowboys, a home of an organization said they're going to be selectively aggressive. I feel like Pella Sero's selective memory there with with how that went down on the Houston Texans. But I honestly don't feel that bad the way I came out and that Greg, I thought maybe more of a shot at you there at the end someone we worked with that one. That's a little harsh.

Yeah, No, I would like to actually thank the insiders, the only three men in the industry that could make me look likable in comparison. So we have a big show this week. We're going to go through your mock draft. We're going to talk about picks we like, picks we didn't. But let's just take a look at the top five to start out the show and how it's changed since your last one. So this time around, we got cam Ward number one. That's a flip flop. Abdull Carter is there now at number two going to the Browns. Sedar Sanders is up to number three with the Giants. That's Spiceye, Travis Hunter to the Patriots at four, and Jalen Walker from of the linebacker going to the Jaguars at five. Let's just kind of go through some of these changes. I'll give you an easy question for as well, why flip the top two picks?

Yeah, No, I would like to actually thank the insiders, the only three men in the industry that could make me look likable in comparison. So we have a big show this week. We're going to go through your mock draft. We're going to talk about picks we like, picks we didn't. But let's just take a look at the top five to start out the show and how it's changed since your last one. So this time around, we got cam Ward number one. That's a flip flop. Abdull Carter is there now at number two going to the Browns. Sedar Sanders is up to number three with the Giants. That's Spiceye, Travis Hunter to the Patriots at four, and Jalen Walker from of the linebacker going to the Jaguars at five. Let's just kind of go through some of these changes. I'll give you an easy question for as well, why flip the top two picks?

Well, I think some of it's what you alluded to one of our previous episodes about the fact that Tennessee really hasn't done anything at the quarterback position, and it's hard to imagine they're just going to run it back with Will Levice. I thought it was a salient point that you made, Greg. I like to point those out. They can be a little few and far between.

Well, I think some of it's what you alluded to one of our previous episodes about the fact that Tennessee really hasn't done anything at the quarterback position, and it's hard to imagine they're just going to run it back with Will Levice. I thought it was a salient point that you made, Greg. I like to point those out. They can be a little few and far between.

Wow.

Wow.

But I also think that if it's not Tennessee, that it's somebody else coming up to take cam Warden. It just feels like, if you're Tennessee, you're going to take cam Ward, or you're going to trade the pick for somebody else to come take cam Ward. You're going to get some assets. You know. It doesn't It wouldn't make as much sense for them to take another player at one when they might be able to get that same player by trading down to two or three for two teams behind you that could be in the quarterback market. So that's why I've slotted cam Ward in at the number one spot.

But I also think that if it's not Tennessee, that it's somebody else coming up to take cam Warden. It just feels like, if you're Tennessee, you're going to take cam Ward, or you're going to trade the pick for somebody else to come take cam Ward. You're going to get some assets. You know. It doesn't It wouldn't make as much sense for them to take another player at one when they might be able to get that same player by trading down to two or three for two teams behind you that could be in the quarterback market. So that's why I've slotted cam Ward in at the number one spot.

That all makes sense, But all I could really hear there was you pumping me up. I like that the insiders coming after us is bringing forties and free agents together. Like point out that you're the only person other than Aaron Rodgers, who who still plugs in you know, his ear pods.

That all makes sense, But all I could really hear there was you pumping me up. I like that the insiders coming after us is bringing forties and free agents together. Like point out that you're the only person other than Aaron Rodgers, who who still plugs in you know, his ear pods.

There, you know, true story. We got time. I mean, what do we got to do. I just did three hours of live coverage at the Big twelve Pro today, So let's let's let's go ahead and let this breathe a little bit. This is an Instagram thing. I saw this on social media. Basically told me I'm gonna I'm gonna keel over and die because I have been using wireless headphones all these years and so I don't know if there's any truth to that. Science scared me enough to the point that I'm plugging these uncomfortable things. And I can tell you.

There, you know, true story. We got time. I mean, what do we got to do. I just did three hours of live coverage at the Big twelve Pro today, So let's let's let's go ahead and let this breathe a little bit. This is an Instagram thing. I saw this on social media. Basically told me I'm gonna I'm gonna keel over and die because I have been using wireless headphones all these years and so I don't know if there's any truth to that. Science scared me enough to the point that I'm plugging these uncomfortable things. And I can tell you.

That, Yeah, that's where we are in twenty twenty five. You want to get all your news from Instagram? Warning about brain waves accurate. Miles Garrett was with our friend Andrew Ceciliano this week on his podcast for the Cleveland Browns, and he said he had an idea what the Browns are doing at quarterback and it made him feel better about signing there. I'm just curious, do you think he has any idea? What would that idea? Because to me, the most logical idea there would be would he be excited about them trading up for cam Wards unless kirk Cousins gets some going in your mock, you have Abdul Carter going number two and pairing with Miles Garrett.

That, Yeah, that's where we are in twenty twenty five. You want to get all your news from Instagram? Warning about brain waves accurate. Miles Garrett was with our friend Andrew Ceciliano this week on his podcast for the Cleveland Browns, and he said he had an idea what the Browns are doing at quarterback and it made him feel better about signing there. I'm just curious, do you think he has any idea? What would that idea? Because to me, the most logical idea there would be would he be excited about them trading up for cam Wards unless kirk Cousins gets some going in your mock, you have Abdul Carter going number two and pairing with Miles Garrett.

Yeah, I think that there's an interesting choice there, and I've touched on this before with Cleveland, but I tried to flesh it out a little bit more. First of all, you do hear kirk Cousins name mentioned, you know, as someone who you know. I do believe he is going to get traded eventually, So maybe that's they're selling him on a veteran who can come in here and kind of just get the offense functional, and then they could use that first pick as I had him here, taking Abdull Carter to give him a big time rusher on the opposite side, where you know, with Jim Schwartz's defense, they're going to line those guys up wide and they're going to let them hunt, and that would be a great fit there on the opposite side of Miles Garrett with Abdull Carter. Now, I do believe wholeheartedly Greg, they're going to take a quarterback with one of their first two picks. So the question is do you want to take Abdull Carter if he's there, who's the best my opinion, the best player in the draft for sure, the best defensive lineman in the draft, and then pair him up with a quarterback that second tier, whether that's someone like a Jackson Dart, whether that's a Tyler Shuck, whoever your quarterback is. You know, Tyler Shuck is a big, strong arm guy, kind of fits that division and that that that climate a little bit. So I thought that would be a pairing versus you take shud or standers, you come back to edge rusher you get in the second round is going to look nothing like Abdul Carter. So that's kind of the logic behind the way that I went. And I don't know if that's what they explained to Miles Garrett or not, but you know, we'll see. I do think they're going to take a quarterback one of their first two picks.

Yeah, I think that there's an interesting choice there, and I've touched on this before with Cleveland, but I tried to flesh it out a little bit more. First of all, you do hear kirk Cousins name mentioned, you know, as someone who you know. I do believe he is going to get traded eventually, So maybe that's they're selling him on a veteran who can come in here and kind of just get the offense functional, and then they could use that first pick as I had him here, taking Abdull Carter to give him a big time rusher on the opposite side, where you know, with Jim Schwartz's defense, they're going to line those guys up wide and they're going to let them hunt, and that would be a great fit there on the opposite side of Miles Garrett with Abdull Carter. Now, I do believe wholeheartedly Greg, they're going to take a quarterback with one of their first two picks. So the question is do you want to take Abdull Carter if he's there, who's the best my opinion, the best player in the draft for sure, the best defensive lineman in the draft, and then pair him up with a quarterback that second tier, whether that's someone like a Jackson Dart, whether that's a Tyler Shuck, whoever your quarterback is. You know, Tyler Shuck is a big, strong arm guy, kind of fits that division and that that that climate a little bit. So I thought that would be a pairing versus you take shud or standers, you come back to edge rusher you get in the second round is going to look nothing like Abdul Carter. So that's kind of the logic behind the way that I went. And I don't know if that's what they explained to Miles Garrett or not, but you know, we'll see. I do think they're going to take a quarterback one of their first two picks.

Well, they famously passed on a quarterback to take Miles Garrett. It was Carson Wentz, and for a couple of years, Brown's fans were tortured thinking they missed out on their guy. And now there's some buzz actually Carson Wentz might be the backup veteran option there. So maybe they want to go back to history, and that would say, yeah, take Abdul Carter, go back, Go back.

Well, they famously passed on a quarterback to take Miles Garrett. It was Carson Wentz, and for a couple of years, Brown's fans were tortured thinking they missed out on their guy. And now there's some buzz actually Carson Wentz might be the backup veteran option there. So maybe they want to go back to history, and that would say, yeah, take Abdul Carter, go back, Go back.

Greg, go back, Greg. And look at the twenty one draft where we spent and trust me, I was part of it. We spent all that time talking about those five quarterbacks. They all ended up going right. You had Trevor Lawrence Goh, that was Trey Lance, that was justin Fields, that was Mac Jones, that was Wilson with the Jets. All these guys we talked about him, the who run up to the draft and go look at I think seven of the top thirteen picks have got extensions. Now we've seen j C. Horn, We've seen with Jamar Chase Waddle, all those guys, Davante Smith, they've all got extended. The missus ended up being the vast majority of the quarterbacks.

Greg, go back, Greg. And look at the twenty one draft where we spent and trust me, I was part of it. We spent all that time talking about those five quarterbacks. They all ended up going right. You had Trevor Lawrence Goh, that was Trey Lance, that was justin Fields, that was Mac Jones, that was Wilson with the Jets. All these guys we talked about him, the who run up to the draft and go look at I think seven of the top thirteen picks have got extensions. Now we've seen j C. Horn, We've seen with Jamar Chase Waddle, all those guys, Davante Smith, they've all got extended. The missus ended up being the vast majority of the quarterbacks.

Right, And the only one without an extension out of that whole top ten or top twelve is Michael Parsons.

Right, And the only one without an extension out of that whole top ten or top twelve is Michael Parsons.

Maybe the best player among them. You got to yeah, and.

Maybe the best player among them. You got to yeah, and.

Then right behind him as Rashaan Slater, who's waiting on his extension. Who's gonna get one, I'm sure.

Then right behind him as Rashaan Slater, who's waiting on his extension. Who's gonna get one, I'm sure.

So when these mocks come out, and look, I'm glad that you're your debuting this here digitally with forties and free agents, Daniel, But I've already seen it, Like there's all sorts of shows and websites that are basing content off of your mock draft. If if you Google, it's like hard to actually find your mock drafts because so many people are writing about your mock draft. And one of the things you're doing that most mock drafters aren't. And when you do mock drafts, it's actual news is you are moving should Sanders up at a time when some people are moving him down. We're at a point where we hear from Tom Pelasero. I will give him credit for being first on this one that Aaron Rodgers and the Vikings is not a marriage that's going to happen, at least not anytime soon. If you wanted to wait it out till the middle of the summer, who knows. But you have the giants taking Shadar Sanders at a point where Aaron Rodgers is on the table for them. Is this a case of just they needed to save their jobs and honestly, the only way they could possibly do that is draft a good rookie quarterback and make him look good.

So when these mocks come out, and look, I'm glad that you're your debuting this here digitally with forties and free agents, Daniel, But I've already seen it, Like there's all sorts of shows and websites that are basing content off of your mock draft. If if you Google, it's like hard to actually find your mock drafts because so many people are writing about your mock draft. And one of the things you're doing that most mock drafters aren't. And when you do mock drafts, it's actual news is you are moving should Sanders up at a time when some people are moving him down. We're at a point where we hear from Tom Pelasero. I will give him credit for being first on this one that Aaron Rodgers and the Vikings is not a marriage that's going to happen, at least not anytime soon. If you wanted to wait it out till the middle of the summer, who knows. But you have the giants taking Shadar Sanders at a point where Aaron Rodgers is on the table for them. Is this a case of just they needed to save their jobs and honestly, the only way they could possibly do that is draft a good rookie quarterback and make him look good.

Well, they need they need to find their quarterback of the future. We start there, and this is this is a question. I'm glad you kind of brought this up because a common question that comes up when you do what I did in this mock draft is why is Shoodoor Sanders good enough for the Giants at three but yet not good enough for the Browns at two? Like that's a that's a common question, and I can explain it this way. You know, with Abdul Carter being there, I think you know it's a at premium player premium position. That's a tougher decision when you're choosing between those two options. Obviously he's off the table here for the Giants. No Abdul Carter. The other thing is sometimes you get these little pieces of information, some of it's yet to be verified. And this is one hundred percent in that camp, Greg. But I was told by someone outside the Giants organization, but someone inside the league that said the Giants had a presence at every single Colorado game this year. They were following Shudhar Standers around the entire season. So that seemed to me, Oh, it's kind of interesting. Now. I haven't talked to Joe Shane or talked to anybody with the Giants to verify that. I'm sure reporters can take the baton from here and see what they can figure out. But I was like, man, they've done a lot of work and in a lot of homework on Shoodoor Sanders, and at that point in time, with the options there, I just thought, man, it's they would have a tougher sell in terms of passing on a quarterback. I think then even Cleveland, would you know, because Cleveland comes away with the prize possession in the edge rusher there to pair up with Miles Garrett.

Well, they need they need to find their quarterback of the future. We start there, and this is this is a question. I'm glad you kind of brought this up because a common question that comes up when you do what I did in this mock draft is why is Shoodoor Sanders good enough for the Giants at three but yet not good enough for the Browns at two? Like that's a that's a common question, and I can explain it this way. You know, with Abdul Carter being there, I think you know it's a at premium player premium position. That's a tougher decision when you're choosing between those two options. Obviously he's off the table here for the Giants. No Abdul Carter. The other thing is sometimes you get these little pieces of information, some of it's yet to be verified. And this is one hundred percent in that camp, Greg. But I was told by someone outside the Giants organization, but someone inside the league that said the Giants had a presence at every single Colorado game this year. They were following Shudhar Standers around the entire season. So that seemed to me, Oh, it's kind of interesting. Now. I haven't talked to Joe Shane or talked to anybody with the Giants to verify that. I'm sure reporters can take the baton from here and see what they can figure out. But I was like, man, they've done a lot of work and in a lot of homework on Shoodoor Sanders, and at that point in time, with the options there, I just thought, man, it's they would have a tougher sell in terms of passing on a quarterback. I think then even Cleveland, would you know, because Cleveland comes away with the prize possession in the edge rusher there to pair up with Miles Garrett.

Yeah, and I know jobs are on the line in Cleveland and New York. But the more I thought about and was looking at your pick here, I just think forget Aaron Rodgers because to me, it doesn't make sense to bringing Aaron Rodgers Answerder Sanders. But that would be a possible option for the Giants if Rogers chooses to do that. If they choose to do that, it doesn't sound like a decision for Rodgers coming anytime soon anyways.

Yeah, and I know jobs are on the line in Cleveland and New York. But the more I thought about and was looking at your pick here, I just think forget Aaron Rodgers because to me, it doesn't make sense to bringing Aaron Rodgers Answerder Sanders. But that would be a possible option for the Giants if Rogers chooses to do that. If they choose to do that, it doesn't sound like a decision for Rodgers coming anytime soon anyways.

If I'm Aaron Rodgers, though, hold on hold on. Great. If I'm Aaron Rodgers and I've got one or two years left and he has a couple of suitors. By all accounts, it sounds like the Steelers and the Giants. Wouldn't you want confirmation from the Giants? Wouldn't you tell them like, hey, guys, I'll come, but I want to try and win right now? So are you going to guarantee me? Like you know though you know if you'll get this answer.

If I'm Aaron Rodgers, though, hold on hold on. Great. If I'm Aaron Rodgers and I've got one or two years left and he has a couple of suitors. By all accounts, it sounds like the Steelers and the Giants. Wouldn't you want confirmation from the Giants? Wouldn't you tell them like, hey, guys, I'll come, but I want to try and win right now? So are you going to guarantee me? Like you know though you know if you'll get this answer.

Not.

Not.

If I'm Aaron Rodgers, you might as well. I'd say, guarantee me that you're getting somebody to help me, not to sit on the bench with the third overall pick.

If I'm Aaron Rodgers, you might as well. I'd say, guarantee me that you're getting somebody to help me, not to sit on the bench with the third overall pick.

That's fair, And it just seems like a bad idea if you're the New York Giants, and they've made a lot of bad ideas over the last few years, and I think drafting Shouldar Sanders is a better idea because the only path and I don't think it's going for Aaron Rodgers and trying to win now with him. If you look at his tape, he's not holding onto the ball.

That's fair, And it just seems like a bad idea if you're the New York Giants, and they've made a lot of bad ideas over the last few years, and I think drafting Shouldar Sanders is a better idea because the only path and I don't think it's going for Aaron Rodgers and trying to win now with him. If you look at his tape, he's not holding onto the ball.

He's not close to the same athlete that he used to be.

He's not close to the same athlete that he used to be.

The only way to save your job is you have a really good head coach with quarterbacks, and you could go win six or seven games if should have Sanders looks like the future at quarterback. You can extend out your time in New York and Joe Shane in that twenty twenty four class, which was very good, has a chance to get even better. And everyone keeps their jobs and that's a big part of how you make these decisions. Now we're going to do a segment coming up, DJ of the picks that you know, I actually think you did a pretty good job. But I had to say right now, looking at the top five, Travis Hunter to the Patriots, I mean, I don't know if you're just kissing up to me, because this is what I would like of I think a lot of Patriots fans would love this, and would this be a team that you see him at receiver? I'm curious of the other teams in the top five, like which teams could potentially see him at receiver.

The only way to save your job is you have a really good head coach with quarterbacks, and you could go win six or seven games if should have Sanders looks like the future at quarterback. You can extend out your time in New York and Joe Shane in that twenty twenty four class, which was very good, has a chance to get even better. And everyone keeps their jobs and that's a big part of how you make these decisions. Now we're going to do a segment coming up, DJ of the picks that you know, I actually think you did a pretty good job. But I had to say right now, looking at the top five, Travis Hunter to the Patriots, I mean, I don't know if you're just kissing up to me, because this is what I would like of I think a lot of Patriots fans would love this, and would this be a team that you see him at receiver? I'm curious of the other teams in the top five, like which teams could potentially see him at receiver.

I'm just trying to do what everyone does to the Boston teams, which is like you got the Yankees all these injuries to the pitchers, and now everybody in Boston thinks they're going to win the World Series this year and now, I'm just put this hope out there that Travis Hunter is going to be gift wrapped to him and absolutely fall into their lap. So that's all I'm doing. I'm trying to raise the expectations there for your hometown team. But you know, to me, the fascinating thing with Hunter is if you went around a different teams, Greg, how they would use him would be different. And I'll pose this to you as the as the Patriot homer here, how do you tell Drake May if you pick him, that we're going to major him in defense and minor him on offense when he's better than anybody he's throwing the ball to. Like, you couldn't do that. He'd have to be a he'd be her full, full time receiver. And if you want to sprinkle him in on some third downs, you know, to get them on the defensive side of the ball, you'd do it. But I think their plan would be way different than a team that might have a need a.

I'm just trying to do what everyone does to the Boston teams, which is like you got the Yankees all these injuries to the pitchers, and now everybody in Boston thinks they're going to win the World Series this year and now, I'm just put this hope out there that Travis Hunter is going to be gift wrapped to him and absolutely fall into their lap. So that's all I'm doing. I'm trying to raise the expectations there for your hometown team. But you know, to me, the fascinating thing with Hunter is if you went around a different teams, Greg, how they would use him would be different. And I'll pose this to you as the as the Patriot homer here, how do you tell Drake May if you pick him, that we're going to major him in defense and minor him on offense when he's better than anybody he's throwing the ball to. Like, you couldn't do that. He'd have to be a he'd be her full, full time receiver. And if you want to sprinkle him in on some third downs, you know, to get them on the defensive side of the ball, you'd do it. But I think their plan would be way different than a team that might have a need a.

Corner I agree.

Corner I agree.

I think he would have to be a receiver for them and then maybe you sprinkle him in at cornerbacks.

I think he would have to be a receiver for them and then maybe you sprinkle him in at cornerbacks.

See how that works. I'm going to answer my own question since you know you didn't really answer it. Tennessee.

See how that works. I'm going to answer my own question since you know you didn't really answer it. Tennessee.

I think you could put them if they happen to trade down Travis Hunter, you can put they need a cornerback, they need a wide receiver. I don't really know what Cleveland. To me, he'd make sense at wide receiver as well. He'd immediately be the best wide receiver on that team, wouldn't necessarily be the best cornerback.

I think you could put them if they happen to trade down Travis Hunter, you can put they need a cornerback, they need a wide receiver. I don't really know what Cleveland. To me, he'd make sense at wide receiver as well. He'd immediately be the best wide receiver on that team, wouldn't necessarily be the best cornerback.

Giants.

Giants.

You tell me Jaguars, like, what do you think these teams specifically, because I don't think he's getting out of the top four or five. Where where those teams would put him?

You tell me Jaguars, like, what do you think these teams specifically, because I don't think he's getting out of the top four or five. Where where those teams would put him?

Yeah, Cleveland would be an interesting one. I think. I think Cleveland might be the place where you'd have a chance to do a little double duty. You know, he'd have a chance to maybe even maximize himself a little bit more New England just because of what they've done with Carlton Davis and already having an elite corner in Gonzalez. That was the easy one to one there. I will say, if he got the five in Jacksonville, maybe that's another one where he can pull some some double duty there. But man, can you imagine on offense, Trevor Lawrence, you get out there and you look and you see BTJ out on one side, and now I've got Travis Hunter as a as a toy to play with and move him around and try and get him the ball as well. That's that would be fun. That'd be fun if you're a Jacks fan, I would think that that would be a fun watch.

Yeah, Cleveland would be an interesting one. I think. I think Cleveland might be the place where you'd have a chance to do a little double duty. You know, he'd have a chance to maybe even maximize himself a little bit more New England just because of what they've done with Carlton Davis and already having an elite corner in Gonzalez. That was the easy one to one there. I will say, if he got the five in Jacksonville, maybe that's another one where he can pull some some double duty there. But man, can you imagine on offense, Trevor Lawrence, you get out there and you look and you see BTJ out on one side, and now I've got Travis Hunter as a as a toy to play with and move him around and try and get him the ball as well. That's that would be fun. That'd be fun if you're a Jacks fan, I would think that that would be a fun watch.

I mean, he's getting double duty. At least eventually you got to give it a shot at some point. This is a guy who's done something we've never seen before. It would be a crime against the football gods if you didn't give him a shot at both sides of the ball.

I mean, he's getting double duty. At least eventually you got to give it a shot at some point. This is a guy who's done something we've never seen before. It would be a crime against the football gods if you didn't give him a shot at both sides of the ball.

But I get that you start out on one side. Focus scene. Let's go to the picks that I like the most. DJ that that you made picks and you know I didn't.

But I get that you start out on one side. Focus scene. Let's go to the picks that I like the most. DJ that that you made picks and you know I didn't.

He It's funny because it doesn't say that on the screen. It doesn't say picks Greg likes. That would seem to be a nice thing to say. It says picks. Greg doesn't hate. That's I don't love that don't love.

He It's funny because it doesn't say that on the screen. It doesn't say picks Greg likes. That would seem to be a nice thing to say. It says picks. Greg doesn't hate. That's I don't love that don't love.

Maybe that's our producer trying to you know, cause even more for between us, Accid Empty to the Raiders at six, Mason Graham to the Panthers, at eight, Will Campbell the tackle from LSU go to the Bears. At ten, Colston Lovelin the tight end go into Seattle, and Donovan Azeraku go into the Bucks at night.

Maybe that's our producer trying to you know, cause even more for between us, Accid Empty to the Raiders at six, Mason Graham to the Panthers, at eight, Will Campbell the tackle from LSU go to the Bears. At ten, Colston Lovelin the tight end go into Seattle, and Donovan Azeraku go into the Bucks at night.

Nicely done, good pronunciation.

Nicely done, good pronunciation.

Yeah, we'd done that very much.

Yeah, we'd done that very much.

I practice. I want to go through these one by one. Let's start with Mason Graham. Actually I just like this pick because on the last show I kind of knocked him. I wonder, is this really a three down player? And you took offense to that, and then you know, fast forward a couple of weeks and you're moving him down in your mock draft.

I practice. I want to go through these one by one. Let's start with Mason Graham. Actually I just like this pick because on the last show I kind of knocked him. I wonder, is this really a three down player? And you took offense to that, and then you know, fast forward a couple of weeks and you're moving him down in your mock draft.

You're listening to me.

You're listening to me.

No, that's that's absolutely incorrect. It's it's very consistent with my take on Mason Graham, who has not had any movement, you know, in terms of my top fifty list, in terms of like a major fall there. I think he went from what five to eight, So it's three spots. And I told everybody this is going to happen with Mason Graham. He's a great player. Everyone has good grades. He has made for the fall, he's not made for the spring. We do not see him work out at the combine. We'll see him at the Pro Day. But he's not gonna wow you on the on the hoof. You're not going to walk out there and see, you know, this physically imposing guy compared to his teammate seventy eight Kenneth Grant, who you see on the video that we're watching right now. I don't think he's going to have long arms. He's not going to be one who's going to just blow it up from a testing standpoint. So as happens every year with a couple of players who are great on tape and they're not built for spring, you'll see those guys slide a little bit, and what happens is they end up, you know, falling to a team that's very, very fortunate to have him. The Baltimore Ravens have an All Pro safety at a Notre Dame that we saw the exact same thing happen in Kyle Hamilton. So again, Greg, some guys and we'll we'll educate you. As we're doing more of these shows year after year after year, you're gonna start picking up on this. You're gonna have fall guys and I'm not talking about lead majors, and you're gonna have spring guys and that has something to do with where they go in the draft, all.

No, that's that's absolutely incorrect. It's it's very consistent with my take on Mason Graham, who has not had any movement, you know, in terms of my top fifty list, in terms of like a major fall there. I think he went from what five to eight, So it's three spots. And I told everybody this is going to happen with Mason Graham. He's a great player. Everyone has good grades. He has made for the fall, he's not made for the spring. We do not see him work out at the combine. We'll see him at the Pro Day. But he's not gonna wow you on the on the hoof. You're not going to walk out there and see, you know, this physically imposing guy compared to his teammate seventy eight Kenneth Grant, who you see on the video that we're watching right now. I don't think he's going to have long arms. He's not going to be one who's going to just blow it up from a testing standpoint. So as happens every year with a couple of players who are great on tape and they're not built for spring, you'll see those guys slide a little bit, and what happens is they end up, you know, falling to a team that's very, very fortunate to have him. The Baltimore Ravens have an All Pro safety at a Notre Dame that we saw the exact same thing happen in Kyle Hamilton. So again, Greg, some guys and we'll we'll educate you. As we're doing more of these shows year after year after year, you're gonna start picking up on this. You're gonna have fall guys and I'm not talking about lead majors, and you're gonna have spring guys and that has something to do with where they go in the draft, all.

Right, jokes aside.

Right, jokes aside.

Is it fair to say that teams view Graham differently, that he might be more divisive?

Is it fair to say that teams view Graham differently, that he might be more divisive?

I don't know if this is true or not.

I don't know if this is true or not.

I'm asking do you think that his Of course, there's a lot of teams that are going to agree with you, and you only need one team to be like that they fall in love with the film. But are there some teams you think just don't view him as that sort of player.

I'm asking do you think that his Of course, there's a lot of teams that are going to agree with you, and you only need one team to be like that they fall in love with the film. But are there some teams you think just don't view him as that sort of player.

I won't blanket it with teams because I've talked to different people and organizations, and I know some individuals might not be as high on him as I am, But I would say the vast majority of folks I talk to hold him in very high esteem. And to be honest, like from a draft standpoint, we're not flush with premier, premier, you know, impact guys up there in the top ten. So I think what you're going to see is kind of the consistent, the steady, you know, reliable, dependable players like him. I think they're going to get bumped up a little bit when it's all said and done with the teams that you know, just they don't want to miss Greg. We used to always say when I was in Baltimore, Ozzie Newsom used to always say, Hey, there's nothing wrong with hitt and double, so we don't need to swing for the fences. Let's get solid, you know, guys. And then a lot of times end up being more than that. But I think he is a very very high floor player.

I won't blanket it with teams because I've talked to different people and organizations, and I know some individuals might not be as high on him as I am, But I would say the vast majority of folks I talk to hold him in very high esteem. And to be honest, like from a draft standpoint, we're not flush with premier, premier, you know, impact guys up there in the top ten. So I think what you're going to see is kind of the consistent, the steady, you know, reliable, dependable players like him. I think they're going to get bumped up a little bit when it's all said and done with the teams that you know, just they don't want to miss Greg. We used to always say when I was in Baltimore, Ozzie Newsom used to always say, Hey, there's nothing wrong with hitt and double, so we don't need to swing for the fences. Let's get solid, you know, guys. And then a lot of times end up being more than that. But I think he is a very very high floor player.

Similar to Will Campbell.

Similar to Will Campbell.

So I like that pick because it just seems to complete the theme of the Bears offseason.

So I like that pick because it just seems to complete the theme of the Bears offseason.

I think they've come out with a purpose.

I think they've come out with a purpose.

They've done it in trades, They've done it in free agency. You know, I think their head coach is partly running the show here at least, you know, he has a big contribution of how this is going to look. And Will Campbell being the second offensive lineman off the board, if he is there at ten, that makes a lot of sense to me, possibly you know, sliding right in at left tackle. My question for you is, do you do you think you think he's the second offensive lineman on the board in this mock draft he is now behind armand Membu, who's going number seven to the Jets. Do you think that's like a conventional take now in terms of teams, do you think he's more likely to go second, or that's just a toss up.

They've done it in trades, They've done it in free agency. You know, I think their head coach is partly running the show here at least, you know, he has a big contribution of how this is going to look. And Will Campbell being the second offensive lineman off the board, if he is there at ten, that makes a lot of sense to me, possibly you know, sliding right in at left tackle. My question for you is, do you do you think you think he's the second offensive lineman on the board in this mock draft he is now behind armand Membu, who's going number seven to the Jets. Do you think that's like a conventional take now in terms of teams, do you think he's more likely to go second, or that's just a toss up.

I think it's a we have. I literally think it's unber onint and I would not be surprised if that went either way. You've got Campbell who has you know, Look, he started as a true freshman there, you know, all the makeup, the intangibles, off the charts tested. I mean he tested well. I mean it got kind of lost because Membo put on such a show. But you know, Will Campbell doesn't have the length that scares does scare some people, It's not even really the length that would almost say. It's more of the wingspan, just kind of narrow shoulders and now a real broad guy. And Mimbo just you know, as big as he is, as strong and athletic as he is. They're both young guys. You know, I think you could see half the teams have it one way, half the teams have it the other. I do think they go off within a few picks of each other.

I think it's a we have. I literally think it's unber onint and I would not be surprised if that went either way. You've got Campbell who has you know, Look, he started as a true freshman there, you know, all the makeup, the intangibles, off the charts tested. I mean he tested well. I mean it got kind of lost because Membo put on such a show. But you know, Will Campbell doesn't have the length that scares does scare some people, It's not even really the length that would almost say. It's more of the wingspan, just kind of narrow shoulders and now a real broad guy. And Mimbo just you know, as big as he is, as strong and athletic as he is. They're both young guys. You know, I think you could see half the teams have it one way, half the teams have it the other. I do think they go off within a few picks of each other.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.

By the way, you're taping it, As you mentioned from Big twelve prote can you tell the the announcer in the battle?

By the way, you're taping it, As you mentioned from Big twelve prote can you tell the the announcer in the battle?

Yeah, you got mad at me. Oh you didn't answer my question. Well, I can't hear you, but I've got I've got the PA guy going on nutso behind me.

Yeah, you got mad at me. Oh you didn't answer my question. Well, I can't hear you, but I've got I've got the PA guy going on nutso behind me.

I thought I was just hearing something crazy.

I thought I was just hearing something crazy.

But it just shows how what other shows are out there on site giving you this material.

But it just shows how what other shows are out there on site giving you this material.

Ian Rappaport, he's on the ski slopes.

Ian Rappaport, he's on the ski slopes.

I have information right now, he's not even working and we're out here grinding, especially you.

I have information right now, he's not even working and we're out here grinding, especially you.

By the way. By the way, kids kids size, kids size skis. By the way, nobody knows that, but that's true, right.

By the way. By the way, kids kids size, kids size skis. By the way, nobody knows that, but that's true, right.

It's that it's that little side ski lift that's just like a mini one. It's like you could have even just walked up to the little kiddy hill that you go. I'm with you there, Colson Lovelin, What a what a pickup this would be for the Seattle Seahawks, who I think need help on offense. You have him falling to eighteenth, not falling that that's a good spot.

It's that it's that little side ski lift that's just like a mini one. It's like you could have even just walked up to the little kiddy hill that you go. I'm with you there, Colson Lovelin, What a what a pickup this would be for the Seattle Seahawks, who I think need help on offense. You have him falling to eighteenth, not falling that that's a good spot.

I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad you picked this one. I'm glad you picked this one to talk about because I know, like I've talked, we talked about it previously too, like offensive line, interior, offensive lines and direction you would think makes a ton of sense for them, but in this in this case, I think and this is maybe a disconnect between and inside the draft room and maybe what the expectations are on the fan side of things, which is, yes, we we might have a higher need somewhere, but you don't pass on what we would call blue player, Like this is someone who I have as a top seven player in the draft, and do we have anybody? Is Noah Fan going to preclude me from taking a top seven player in the draft? Not a chance. I'm gonna give Sam Donald a bunch of easy, easy completions here with someone like Lovelin. So I think that's you know, there's times where like, hey, we have a need, we need to fill it. Obviously you hope to do that in free agency, but you're still gonna have needs in the draft. But the golden rule don't pass on great players.

I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad you picked this one. I'm glad you picked this one to talk about because I know, like I've talked, we talked about it previously too, like offensive line, interior, offensive lines and direction you would think makes a ton of sense for them, but in this in this case, I think and this is maybe a disconnect between and inside the draft room and maybe what the expectations are on the fan side of things, which is, yes, we we might have a higher need somewhere, but you don't pass on what we would call blue player, Like this is someone who I have as a top seven player in the draft, and do we have anybody? Is Noah Fan going to preclude me from taking a top seven player in the draft? Not a chance. I'm gonna give Sam Donald a bunch of easy, easy completions here with someone like Lovelin. So I think that's you know, there's times where like, hey, we have a need, we need to fill it. Obviously you hope to do that in free agency, but you're still gonna have needs in the draft. But the golden rule don't pass on great players.

Yeah, to me, he might be a safer pick than Tyler Warren. You can just see what he does and having to translate at the next level. And I also just thought it would be important for them to get like a tight end. He showed us in his last year that he can really catch off target, throws and that's going to be necessary when Sam Donald's your quarterback.

Yeah, to me, he might be a safer pick than Tyler Warren. You can just see what he does and having to translate at the next level. And I also just thought it would be important for them to get like a tight end. He showed us in his last year that he can really catch off target, throws and that's going to be necessary when Sam Donald's your quarterback.

Oh wow, I see see you had to just get a Donald dig in there too. Man. By the way, are you guys having Are you guys having a party at the Rosenthal household whenever we get the new Geno deal. I didn't know if he whether is going to pay for that or not? Like do you does he pay for balloons and cake that you guys can?

Oh wow, I see see you had to just get a Donald dig in there too. Man. By the way, are you guys having Are you guys having a party at the Rosenthal household whenever we get the new Geno deal. I didn't know if he whether is going to pay for that or not? Like do you does he pay for balloons and cake that you guys can?

He does follow me on Twitter. We've never actually had a personal interaction.

He does follow me on Twitter. We've never actually had a personal interaction.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It might it might be his his social media guy follows you on Twitter. Let's let's be honest here. Come on, by the way, if you ever send a direct message, because I have again, like different players people and you know a lot of times athletes that they'll follow and you follow him back, and uh, I think I'll be on tell you what it was. He was Cooper Cup and I'll next time I see him, I'll find out if this is true or not. But my theory is that when you send somebody, hey, congratulations on the new deal, happy before you hope all as well, and you get back prayer hands, I'm thinking that's not I don't think that's Cooper. I think that's just I think that's his guy that runs the social media. That's just acknowledging like, hey, yeah, I didn't realize I followed you. But thanks, thanks for the Thanks for the nice note.

It might it might be his his social media guy follows you on Twitter. Let's let's be honest here. Come on, by the way, if you ever send a direct message, because I have again, like different players people and you know a lot of times athletes that they'll follow and you follow him back, and uh, I think I'll be on tell you what it was. He was Cooper Cup and I'll next time I see him, I'll find out if this is true or not. But my theory is that when you send somebody, hey, congratulations on the new deal, happy before you hope all as well, and you get back prayer hands, I'm thinking that's not I don't think that's Cooper. I think that's just I think that's his guy that runs the social media. That's just acknowledging like, hey, yeah, I didn't realize I followed you. But thanks, thanks for the Thanks for the nice note.

I love the little behind the scenes.

I love the little behind the scenes.

And yeah, while we're while we're talking gin know, we might as well talk to ask GenZ. You have him going number six and we're still waiting to see that Gino contract.

And yeah, while we're while we're talking gin know, we might as well talk to ask GenZ. You have him going number six and we're still waiting to see that Gino contract.

This is one of those.

This is one of those.

And I'm asking you to fight through the noise back there that there's a lot of buzz about. You know, I only have so many sources, not as many as the real insider Daniel Jeremiah, but this does seem one that, like people think, could really happen. Is there any concern if you're the Raiders that so many teams think that.

And I'm asking you to fight through the noise back there that there's a lot of buzz about. You know, I only have so many sources, not as many as the real insider Daniel Jeremiah, but this does seem one that, like people think, could really happen. Is there any concern if you're the Raiders that so many teams think that.

No, I don't think that you're in danger of having somebody leap frog you. I mean that's the you know, teams are so paranoid about information getting out and their whole thing. Oh somebody's gonna trade up in front of me. That so rarely happens. You know, that you get connected with the player and then a team will leap frog you. To take them, and especially at the running back position in a deep running back draft. And you know, Laurie and Hampton for me is not that far off. I love Gentie, I love this as player, but Marion Hampton really really good back. I can't imagine that if you're like the Bear, you're going to trade picks to get up ahead of the Raiders to get genty when if you were dead set on taking a running back, you'd have amar and Hampton waiting for you, or you could even you know, potentially wait till you know your second round comes around and get one of the Ohio State running backs. So I don't think there's danger with that particular team being connected to that player.

No, I don't think that you're in danger of having somebody leap frog you. I mean that's the you know, teams are so paranoid about information getting out and their whole thing. Oh somebody's gonna trade up in front of me. That so rarely happens. You know, that you get connected with the player and then a team will leap frog you. To take them, and especially at the running back position in a deep running back draft. And you know, Laurie and Hampton for me is not that far off. I love Gentie, I love this as player, but Marion Hampton really really good back. I can't imagine that if you're like the Bear, you're going to trade picks to get up ahead of the Raiders to get genty when if you were dead set on taking a running back, you'd have amar and Hampton waiting for you, or you could even you know, potentially wait till you know your second round comes around and get one of the Ohio State running backs. So I don't think there's danger with that particular team being connected to that player.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And there's been some criticism for the Seahawks, you know, trading dk Metcalf away from Darnold for instance, and not picking up an offensive The Raiders don't have a Jackson Smith and Jigba. The Raiders need some some weapons on their team. They don't have the running backs.

And there's been some criticism for the Seahawks, you know, trading dk Metcalf away from Darnold for instance, and not picking up an offensive The Raiders don't have a Jackson Smith and Jigba. The Raiders need some some weapons on their team. They don't have the running backs.

Certain they got one, they got one, really really good one.

Certain they got one, they got one, really really good one.

Yeah, Gino Smith, rock Bowers look at you, wide receiver, absolutely right.

Yeah, Gino Smith, rock Bowers look at you, wide receiver, absolutely right.

Rock Bowers is a wide receiver with a te next to his name.

Rock Bowers is a wide receiver with a te next to his name.

That is absolutely fair. All right, we're going to take a quick break.

That is absolutely fair. All right, we're going to take a quick break.

We're going to come back and we're going to go through some of the picks that wasn't as sure about as confident.

We're going to come back and we're going to go through some of the picks that wasn't as sure about as confident.

These other ones you didn't hate. That's his nice compliment. Thanks, I don't hate these picks, what ad chirk.

These other ones you didn't hate. That's his nice compliment. Thanks, I don't hate these picks, what ad chirk.

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And yeah, they got Jalen.

And yeah, they got Jalen.

Carter's picture up there, They got Travis Hunters. They should have Daniel Jeremiah's picture up there. He's the one who owns the draft, Jalen Carter.

Carter's picture up there, They got Travis Hunters. They should have Daniel Jeremiah's picture up there. He's the one who owns the draft, Jalen Carter.

Is that what you just said? Jalen Carter? So you guys, he goes to Penn State now and he's in this year's draft. The Eagles are gonna be very surprised by that.

Is that what you just said? Jalen Carter? So you guys, he goes to Penn State now and he's in this year's draft. The Eagles are gonna be very surprised by that.

I'm the draft guy. I'm just trying to catch.

I'm the draft guy. I'm just trying to catch.

This, gracious, that's why it's called forties and free agents. Free agents way way after the forties in terms of importance on this whole thing.

This, gracious, that's why it's called forties and free agents. Free agents way way after the forties in terms of importance on this whole thing.

Okay, so let's talk about some players that I didn't think you did as good a job with. I'm gonna call this section. What does DJ know about some of these players?

Okay, so let's talk about some players that I didn't think you did as good a job with. I'm gonna call this section. What does DJ know about some of these players?

Do you need me to pronounce them?

Do you need me to pronounce them?

Greg?

Greg?

Or?

Or?

You think you got this one on there? You got this one here?

You think you got this one on there? You got this one here?

Okay, I mean I've got Jalen Carter on the brain. He was the most important player on the best defense in the league. Let's talk Jackson Dart and there's a number of players on this board that, Yeah, I don't think he did a great job with here, DJ or more than I have questions, but Jackson's Dart going twenty one to the Steelers.

Okay, I mean I've got Jalen Carter on the brain. He was the most important player on the best defense in the league. Let's talk Jackson Dart and there's a number of players on this board that, Yeah, I don't think he did a great job with here, DJ or more than I have questions, but Jackson's Dart going twenty one to the Steelers.

Is this a guy that it's.

Is this a guy that it's.

More on the evaluation or more what you're hearing putting him that early?

More on the evaluation or more what you're hearing putting him that early?

No, I just I don't know who's playing quarterback for him. And I asked myself a very simple question, do I think Jackson Dart would beat out Mason Rudolph? And I think he would sooner rather than later. And I also with Jackson Dart, I've used this before, but he does remind me of Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts, who wasn't a finished product coming out, but when you watched him every year in college, he got better and better and better. They're both strong, sturdy guys. You look at the way they can move around. Obviously, jack Star doesn't move around white like Hurtz does, but he rushed over fifteen hundred yards in his three years in the SEC. He's athletic. So all those things together, I thought, man, you could find some similarities there. And you look at you know, Andy Widele's with the Pittsburgh Steelers, he was with the Philadelphia Eagles. So I was just kind of putting a couple of pieces together there. And more so than anything else, it was like, is this guy better than what we have on our roster at the moment? And the answer was yes.

No, I just I don't know who's playing quarterback for him. And I asked myself a very simple question, do I think Jackson Dart would beat out Mason Rudolph? And I think he would sooner rather than later. And I also with Jackson Dart, I've used this before, but he does remind me of Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts, who wasn't a finished product coming out, but when you watched him every year in college, he got better and better and better. They're both strong, sturdy guys. You look at the way they can move around. Obviously, jack Star doesn't move around white like Hurtz does, but he rushed over fifteen hundred yards in his three years in the SEC. He's athletic. So all those things together, I thought, man, you could find some similarities there. And you look at you know, Andy Widele's with the Pittsburgh Steelers, he was with the Philadelphia Eagles. So I was just kind of putting a couple of pieces together there. And more so than anything else, it was like, is this guy better than what we have on our roster at the moment? And the answer was yes.

Yeah, I hear that.

Yeah, I hear that.

And yet it reminds me too much of the Kenny Pickett Draft that there's maybe only so many first round quarterbacks in that class that there were none in this class. Maybe there's the big two if you want to put Shitur Sanders there, and then it's forcing a pick up with Jackson Dart. But we'll see it makes a little bit of sense. They are on Aaron Rodgers watch, and yet I don't think that would prevent them from looking for a quarterback of the former.

And yet it reminds me too much of the Kenny Pickett Draft that there's maybe only so many first round quarterbacks in that class that there were none in this class. Maybe there's the big two if you want to put Shitur Sanders there, and then it's forcing a pick up with Jackson Dart. But we'll see it makes a little bit of sense. They are on Aaron Rodgers watch, and yet I don't think that would prevent them from looking for a quarterback of the former.

I'm going to see if I can get the PA to turn the volume pubb litle. I don't know if you're hearing that enough. So we are here at the Big twelve Pro Day and linebackers are running for literally, we're doing forties in free agents while they're running flutings like you don't, I mean, where else you get back?

I'm going to see if I can get the PA to turn the volume pubb litle. I don't know if you're hearing that enough. So we are here at the Big twelve Pro Day and linebackers are running for literally, we're doing forties in free agents while they're running flutings like you don't, I mean, where else you get back?

Right?

Right?

Come on you you are playing hurt today, You're you're fighting through a double team. I appreciate it, AND's why I feel bad for picking on any of these picks.

Come on you you are playing hurt today, You're you're fighting through a double team. I appreciate it, AND's why I feel bad for picking on any of these picks.

I'm not really. They actually made me wonder, like.

I'm not really. They actually made me wonder, like.

What is d good questions? Good questions?

What is d good questions? Good questions?

DJ knows a lot.

DJ knows a lot.

What does he know about Ted McMillan here, who has a little bit of a slower forty time this week you've had him in your top twenty top in terms of your evaluation, so you obviously like them as a player, but you have them twenty two going to the Los Angeles Chargers, and I gotta admit DJ, I checked on the mel Kuiper mock draft, which also came out.

What does he know about Ted McMillan here, who has a little bit of a slower forty time this week you've had him in your top twenty top in terms of your evaluation, so you obviously like them as a player, but you have them twenty two going to the Los Angeles Chargers, and I gotta admit DJ, I checked on the mel Kuiper mock draft, which also came out.

I don't know if I'm allowed to say mel Kiper's name.

I don't know if I'm allowed to say mel Kiper's name.

No. I love Melon absolutely and tech.

No. I love Melon absolutely and tech.

He was kind of low on on his mock draft too. So something's happening here. What's happening with Ted McMillan.

He was kind of low on on his mock draft too. So something's happening here. What's happening with Ted McMillan.

Well, a couple things. He ran his forty other day. Now, don't this is a public service announcement. Don't believe the times that you get from four he's at Pro Days unless you get somebody who's talked to a scout who was there, because the times were circularing. We're in the four fours, and I talked to five or six different teams, and I didn't get anything from that. I got anywhere from the range of four or five three at the low end all the way up to one was at four six three. But the most consistent ones and the ones that got circulated to all the different teams was the four or five three number, which is a good time. It's a solid time for guy who's six foot four, two hundred nineteen two hundred and twenty pounds. But historically, Greg, I always try and remind people when you're doing mock drafts and you're talking about ranges of where guys can go. I'm not saying what type of player he's going to be, but the last time we had a receiver running the four or five and going to the top fifteen, you got to go back to Mike Evans in twenty fourteen. So historically the league doesn't take wide receivers that lack, you know, that top top speed. They historically don't go in the top fifteen. And when you have Matthew Golden, who's got really good tape at Texas RANA four two nine, we'll see what happens with the BUCA. He was a tough one for me. I think once he runs, I think he'll run faster than people expect. I didn't have him in this last mock draft. I think he'll come right back in once he shows everybody and verifies the speed that he has. So it's different flavors with receivers. I think it's I think it's possible. Maybe it's not likely he gets all the way to twenty two, but I think it's absolutely possible.

Well, a couple things. He ran his forty other day. Now, don't this is a public service announcement. Don't believe the times that you get from four he's at Pro Days unless you get somebody who's talked to a scout who was there, because the times were circularing. We're in the four fours, and I talked to five or six different teams, and I didn't get anything from that. I got anywhere from the range of four or five three at the low end all the way up to one was at four six three. But the most consistent ones and the ones that got circulated to all the different teams was the four or five three number, which is a good time. It's a solid time for guy who's six foot four, two hundred nineteen two hundred and twenty pounds. But historically, Greg, I always try and remind people when you're doing mock drafts and you're talking about ranges of where guys can go. I'm not saying what type of player he's going to be, but the last time we had a receiver running the four or five and going to the top fifteen, you got to go back to Mike Evans in twenty fourteen. So historically the league doesn't take wide receivers that lack, you know, that top top speed. They historically don't go in the top fifteen. And when you have Matthew Golden, who's got really good tape at Texas RANA four two nine, we'll see what happens with the BUCA. He was a tough one for me. I think once he runs, I think he'll run faster than people expect. I didn't have him in this last mock draft. I think he'll come right back in once he shows everybody and verifies the speed that he has. So it's different flavors with receivers. I think it's I think it's possible. Maybe it's not likely he gets all the way to twenty two, but I think it's absolutely possible.

Now, I know you know you respect mel Kiper a lot, but are you are you checking out his mock drafts just to see or are you kind of Don Draper and the Element.

Now, I know you know you respect mel Kiper a lot, but are you are you checking out his mock drafts just to see or are you kind of Don Draper and the Element.

Yeah, I think three him Mike, No, I love Mel and ours came out the same morning, So you know, you turn those in and then you just kind of see. So I always see it like he's curious to see if there's any new names that pop up in there, you know, because a lot of times you know that's coming from somewhere. It's not just you know what you're seeing. He does it similarly to the way I do it of talking to people on mock drafts. You rank them off your eyes. You you do mock drafts a little bit more off your ears. So maybe there's somebody's catching some buzz. Maybe I can uh, I do my own homework on that. But yeah, I love Mel. I always love checking out Mel stuff.

Yeah, I think three him Mike, No, I love Mel and ours came out the same morning, So you know, you turn those in and then you just kind of see. So I always see it like he's curious to see if there's any new names that pop up in there, you know, because a lot of times you know that's coming from somewhere. It's not just you know what you're seeing. He does it similarly to the way I do it of talking to people on mock drafts. You rank them off your eyes. You you do mock drafts a little bit more off your ears. So maybe there's somebody's catching some buzz. Maybe I can uh, I do my own homework on that. But yeah, I love Mel. I always love checking out Mel stuff.

Okay, I can't. I can't get you to take down Mel that he's no ian.

Okay, I can't. I can't get you to take down Mel that he's no ian.

I was in Mel's book. I used to work literally while I was in college, I was working on the draft with the Response. I got to go out to dinner with Mel. I got to meet Mel Wows in college and my senior year. He'd had no business putting me in the book. He put me in his draft book. As you know, I think Priorty free agent would be with a kind way to say it, but I did. I did make it to Mel's book that year.

I was in Mel's book. I used to work literally while I was in college, I was working on the draft with the Response. I got to go out to dinner with Mel. I got to meet Mel Wows in college and my senior year. He'd had no business putting me in the book. He put me in his draft book. As you know, I think Priorty free agent would be with a kind way to say it, but I did. I did make it to Mel's book that year.

Oh. I didn't even get you were in his book as a player. I thought you were just setting them out on the scouting upstate. I didn't know you played football. That's cool. You should start a podcast tough.

Oh. I didn't even get you were in his book as a player. I thought you were just setting them out on the scouting upstate. I didn't know you played football. That's cool. You should start a podcast tough.

That is tough. That is tough.

That is tough. That is tough.

I uh, I just wanted to throw a little bit of news for our listeners. Cam Robinson signed with the Houston Texans.

I uh, I just wanted to throw a little bit of news for our listeners. Cam Robinson signed with the Houston Texans.

Now that's probably.

Now that's probably.

It is a one year deal, so I don't think that would necessarily prevent them from taking a tackle. You had him going Kelvin Banks, who plays the same position, but again, I don't think that would prevent them from taking a tackle. For a one year pickup for Cam Robinson. But that was just interesting to me. I noticed Samar Stewart, who blew up the combine, is number thirty two in your mock draft. The Eagles taking another big, strong, fast guy. Just interesting that maybe he didn't get the bump that I would have thought coming off that combine performance.

It is a one year deal, so I don't think that would necessarily prevent them from taking a tackle. You had him going Kelvin Banks, who plays the same position, but again, I don't think that would prevent them from taking a tackle. For a one year pickup for Cam Robinson. But that was just interesting to me. I noticed Samar Stewart, who blew up the combine, is number thirty two in your mock draft. The Eagles taking another big, strong, fast guy. Just interesting that maybe he didn't get the bump that I would have thought coming off that combine performance.

I mean, we had some people.

I mean, we had some people.

I'm not gonna name names, asking could this guy go number one overall. After the combine, you have a bat at thirty two.

I'm not gonna name names, asking could this guy go number one overall. After the combine, you have a bat at thirty two.

Well, I don't think that we know where he could go. He's one with a very broad range. I will just say I was in the combine up in the booth next to rich Eisen when Nolan Smith ran what in the high four threes, low four fours or whatever. He ran out of Georgia. But someone who didn't have a ton of sack production, And what happened to Nolan Smith? He fell into the lap of the Philadelphia Eagles. History has a way of repeating itself, Craig, So that was kind of my thought process there. The production isn't there. The disruption is he's very disruptive. You can see on the clips that we're watching as we're talking here. I mean he's got big time, big time speed that you see when he's working out. It also does translate to the football field. He just hasn't you know, he hasn't been able to rack up the sac production, hasn't been a great finisher. Something that I think is, I think there's more out there form. I think he's going to get better in that department. But if you told me that he was the ninth pick, tenth pick, or he was a thirty second pick. It's kind of one of those drafts where he's one of those guys with a very wide range.