Criminal barrister and former Victorian chief magistrate Nick Pappas, KC, told 3AW Mornings host Tom Elliott he thought judges were simply trying to do their best at applying laws.

<p>Criminal barrister and former Victorian chief magistrate Nick Pappas, KC, told 3AW Mornings host Tom Elliott he thought judges were simply trying to do their best at applying laws.</p>

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