In the 70s and 80s, the Magpies became known for the "Colliwobbles" as they were unable to salute on grand final day.

Standing in Collingwood's way on three occasions in that period was Carlton, which took the already fierce rivalry to another level.

In this episode, David 'Swan' McKay and Tony Shaw re-live some of the most iconic moments in footy history, like the iconic Harmes slap back into play (was it still in play!?) and what should "never have happened" in the Pies' three-quarter-time huddle in the 1981 decider that led to their demise.

Shaw also opens up on a missed opportunity that would have seen him coaching at the Blues and the pair discuss the current rivalry, and whether it's as big as it has ever been.

Join the four-time premiership Blue, Collingwood's 1990 premiership captain and host Shane McInnes as they discuss the AFL's most traditional rivalry, on Footy: Then and Now. 
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Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!

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