Now, unfortunately, we continue to speak about the issues being experienced when it comes to crime and just poor behavior. Now, my next guest has had a wonderful business in our CBD since nineteen ninety seven, so for more than twenty years, Sean Johnson's been operating sealver Toise. He joins me on the line right now.

Now, unfortunately, we continue to speak about the issues being experienced when it comes to crime and just poor behavior. Now, my next guest has had a wonderful business in our CBD since nineteen ninety seven, so for more than twenty years, Sean Johnson's been operating sealver Toise. He joins me on the line right now.

Good morning, Sean, Good morning Katy. And I was hoping that we next time we spoke, we spoke about that twenty eight years.

Good morning, Sean, Good morning Katy. And I was hoping that we next time we spoke, we spoke about that twenty eight years.

That is such a phenomenal period of time for a business to operate. I mean, you must have seen some interesting stuff over those twenty eight years.

That is such a phenomenal period of time for a business to operate. I mean, you must have seen some interesting stuff over those twenty eight years.

I could write a book about it. I'm sure I reckon you could.

I could write a book about it. I'm sure I reckon you could.

Unfortunately, though, one of the things that you have seen, and certainly in recent weeks, is senseless vandalism and just senseless crime. Tell me what happened in recent.

Unfortunately, though, one of the things that you have seen, and certainly in recent weeks, is senseless vandalism and just senseless crime. Tell me what happened in recent.

Days, and that's right. We've got a call that front door has been and I quickly checked out our camera and sure enough it had and I checked out the video footage and it was really just someone walking past who decided I'm just going to kick in this door. And it nothing to do with the cafe, had nothing to do with an accident like a trolley or something accidentally. Someone just decided there's a door, I'm going to kick it on. Maybe I'm frustrated at life and I'll kick in the door. And it cracked it. We just had it replaced and I just got to build this morning. And it's seven hundred and our dollars.

Days, and that's right. We've got a call that front door has been and I quickly checked out our camera and sure enough it had and I checked out the video footage and it was really just someone walking past who decided I'm just going to kick in this door. And it nothing to do with the cafe, had nothing to do with an accident like a trolley or something accidentally. Someone just decided there's a door, I'm going to kick it on. Maybe I'm frustrated at life and I'll kick in the door. And it cracked it. We just had it replaced and I just got to build this morning. And it's seven hundred and our dollars.

That is ridiculous. I mean, you think to yourself, the number of coffees and that you're selling to pay for that is a lot. That makes me really angry.

That is ridiculous. I mean, you think to yourself, the number of coffees and that you're selling to pay for that is a lot. That makes me really angry.

Me too, and a lot of people, you know, they saw the doors, they came in. It took us two days to get a door to fix it and what happened. And I told them and they just said, that's just nuts, you know, you know, we can all be a little tolerant. Maybe a trolley accidentally hit it or whatever. The kick this was senseless. And I put the video up on the Facebook page and I thought, I'm not over dramatizing this. Look at it. The person just walked past, kicked the door, a good couple of good kicks, cracked the glass, and off they went again. So he had no purpose, had no ratification. It'll be nothing against them. Probably that's yeah, you know, and it's.

Me too, and a lot of people, you know, they saw the doors, they came in. It took us two days to get a door to fix it and what happened. And I told them and they just said, that's just nuts, you know, you know, we can all be a little tolerant. Maybe a trolley accidentally hit it or whatever. The kick this was senseless. And I put the video up on the Facebook page and I thought, I'm not over dramatizing this. Look at it. The person just walked past, kicked the door, a good couple of good kicks, cracked the glass, and off they went again. So he had no purpose, had no ratification. It'll be nothing against them. Probably that's yeah, you know, and it's.

Just like it's senseless. But the impact on you guys is, you know, is astronomical. And you're a great local business. I mean you employ like lots of locals. One of my my daughter's friends works there with you guys, like you run a great business. So then having to you know, to fork out seven hundred bucks to fix a door that's had like that's no fault of your own is beyond frustrating.

Just like it's senseless. But the impact on you guys is, you know, is astronomical. And you're a great local business. I mean you employ like lots of locals. One of my my daughter's friends works there with you guys, like you run a great business. So then having to you know, to fork out seven hundred bucks to fix a door that's had like that's no fault of your own is beyond frustrating.

Look it is, and you're right, we've we've been here a long time, and I guess you could say I've had some influences. I've got a doctor that's worked for me. I've got a chief minister that's worked for me, I've got teachers. So yes, I've done my bit for the territory. But this is while it's disheartening, and I don't want to come across as you know, maybe it's part of being in the CBD, any CBD, and I know as a city of wats just grow up. And I do count friends like Jason Hannah and Jimmy Shue and Danny Youwan all big restaurant tourism equally get frustrated. But we're still here, and you know most recently, I stuck my finger up at this sort of behavior, and I've taken on a buffet out of the Darwin resort out and when now we have a Stewart Highway, and said, you know what, we're going to put something out here, and we're going to say we're not going to be intimidated and we're not going to be pushed around, because we think Darwin deserves the sort of thing. And I consulted all three people and they said do it, Sean, and I said, yeah, but it's tough climate and we've got this antisocial and maybe that area needs something like that. The curve a little bit of activity. The liquor licensing came on board and said, we believe that people should have a drink with their meal. We don't think we should restrict you. So our local members got one onto me and said, Sean, if you've got any problems, give us a call. So there is a lot of positivity around, but this sort of stuff just kind of negative. Signed excuse me, and I just don't want us to normalize it.

Look it is, and you're right, we've we've been here a long time, and I guess you could say I've had some influences. I've got a doctor that's worked for me. I've got a chief minister that's worked for me, I've got teachers. So yes, I've done my bit for the territory. But this is while it's disheartening, and I don't want to come across as you know, maybe it's part of being in the CBD, any CBD, and I know as a city of wats just grow up. And I do count friends like Jason Hannah and Jimmy Shue and Danny Youwan all big restaurant tourism equally get frustrated. But we're still here, and you know most recently, I stuck my finger up at this sort of behavior, and I've taken on a buffet out of the Darwin resort out and when now we have a Stewart Highway, and said, you know what, we're going to put something out here, and we're going to say we're not going to be intimidated and we're not going to be pushed around, because we think Darwin deserves the sort of thing. And I consulted all three people and they said do it, Sean, and I said, yeah, but it's tough climate and we've got this antisocial and maybe that area needs something like that. The curve a little bit of activity. The liquor licensing came on board and said, we believe that people should have a drink with their meal. We don't think we should restrict you. So our local members got one onto me and said, Sean, if you've got any problems, give us a call. So there is a lot of positivity around, but this sort of stuff just kind of negative. Signed excuse me, and I just don't want us to normalize it.

No, I think you're spot on, and that is why you think it needs to be called out. I totally agree with you. We can't. You know, we can't normalize this kind of behavior. It's not normal to go and kick someone's door in That's right. You know, it could happen in other locations, but unfortunately, this senseless crime we see all too often in the Northern Territory. I mean, why do you think it needs to be called out?

No, I think you're spot on, and that is why you think it needs to be called out. I totally agree with you. We can't. You know, we can't normalize this kind of behavior. It's not normal to go and kick someone's door in That's right. You know, it could happen in other locations, but unfortunately, this senseless crime we see all too often in the Northern Territory. I mean, why do you think it needs to be called out?

You know, if I'm ever in the car and I tune in and I listened to you, and I know that you do your bit as well, and you try and highlight these things and bring them to attention, so we really appreciate that. I don't know, I've been in the territory thirty five years, and I don't know the iron solution other than we just we've just got to keep calling it out. We've got to try and hold people to account. We can't always be soft soft. I believe everybody deserves a second chance. But if it's going to be chronic, and you're the kind of person that's just going to be constantly anti social and assault or violent or obstructive vandalism, we've just got to have some mechanism in place that says we don't tolerate that. You know, and I wish I had a solution. I don't, but I certainly appreciate people like yourselves and a lot of the journalists that will bring those to lights so that we all know about it. And the people that live out in the suburbs might not know about this. Yeah, and I wasn't aware of that, you know, on any given day. You know, I spoke to the McDonald's boys yesterday and they said that you go one, we get one almost every month. I'm like, oh, man, really, yeah, that sucks. So at least we can we can call it out. And again, we just don't normalize it. Ye'll say, well, that's part of the darn one and that's part of the CBD, or that's part of business. No, it's not not. And everyone pays for it. I'm sure insurance rates go up and so forth. And I don't want to put the price of coffee up just because people keep kicking in doors.

You know, if I'm ever in the car and I tune in and I listened to you, and I know that you do your bit as well, and you try and highlight these things and bring them to attention, so we really appreciate that. I don't know, I've been in the territory thirty five years, and I don't know the iron solution other than we just we've just got to keep calling it out. We've got to try and hold people to account. We can't always be soft soft. I believe everybody deserves a second chance. But if it's going to be chronic, and you're the kind of person that's just going to be constantly anti social and assault or violent or obstructive vandalism, we've just got to have some mechanism in place that says we don't tolerate that. You know, and I wish I had a solution. I don't, but I certainly appreciate people like yourselves and a lot of the journalists that will bring those to lights so that we all know about it. And the people that live out in the suburbs might not know about this. Yeah, and I wasn't aware of that, you know, on any given day. You know, I spoke to the McDonald's boys yesterday and they said that you go one, we get one almost every month. I'm like, oh, man, really, yeah, that sucks. So at least we can we can call it out. And again, we just don't normalize it. Ye'll say, well, that's part of the darn one and that's part of the CBD, or that's part of business. No, it's not not. And everyone pays for it. I'm sure insurance rates go up and so forth. And I don't want to put the price of coffee up just because people keep kicking in doors.

You know, that's exactly right, exactly right, Sean. Do you think that the people like do you think in the instance that you saw most recently and some of the anti social behavior that you're saying, do you think it's happening from locals or do you think people are coming into town from somewhere else. What are you reckons going on?

You know, that's exactly right, exactly right, Sean. Do you think that the people like do you think in the instance that you saw most recently and some of the anti social behavior that you're saying, do you think it's happening from locals or do you think people are coming into town from somewhere else. What are you reckons going on?

Yeah, I would say it's more that the blowings, I don't believe. You know, we get to know who's who. You know, sometimes refer them as the usual suspect, the ones that we know can be a little bit troublesome. But this is not them. These are people that have come in here to just just around a mocker, cause a bit of trouble. And I if they go again, and you know, and when you try and talk to some of the locals that they might say that that's not us. You know, that's not don't We don't tolerate that either. But again, how do you how do you combat that? I don't know. And we've got those that TPS security guys and they're out there trying their best. They're not police, they don't try to be policed, but they try and work with some of these people and say, hey, listen, you know you can't be doing this stuff. You can't be loitering in the city. If there's a pack of young kids, they'll escort them to the bus or two wherever they've got to go without letting them just loiter around the CBD and dispensially cause trouble. So we've got things in place that we're trying to do. Do I think it's unsafe? No, I don't. I don't think. You know, we we're in the tourist season now and I get tourists asking, hey, it's it's safe, and I say, look, we're one of the loveliest sitting tonight. It's it's just a beautiful place. And if you see those security guys there just there to keep that anti social stuff away. But is it an unsafe city? No, I don't believe it is. You know, my heart went out to that the guy up in the nightcliff at that convenience store that had his life taken that well, just just sad. I don't have any words for that. But I don't believe as a whole that we've got an unsafe city. It's just these sort of things can be fixed. You know, I've always said this, we the problems that we have can be fixed.

Yeah, I would say it's more that the blowings, I don't believe. You know, we get to know who's who. You know, sometimes refer them as the usual suspect, the ones that we know can be a little bit troublesome. But this is not them. These are people that have come in here to just just around a mocker, cause a bit of trouble. And I if they go again, and you know, and when you try and talk to some of the locals that they might say that that's not us. You know, that's not don't We don't tolerate that either. But again, how do you how do you combat that? I don't know. And we've got those that TPS security guys and they're out there trying their best. They're not police, they don't try to be policed, but they try and work with some of these people and say, hey, listen, you know you can't be doing this stuff. You can't be loitering in the city. If there's a pack of young kids, they'll escort them to the bus or two wherever they've got to go without letting them just loiter around the CBD and dispensially cause trouble. So we've got things in place that we're trying to do. Do I think it's unsafe? No, I don't. I don't think. You know, we we're in the tourist season now and I get tourists asking, hey, it's it's safe, and I say, look, we're one of the loveliest sitting tonight. It's it's just a beautiful place. And if you see those security guys there just there to keep that anti social stuff away. But is it an unsafe city? No, I don't believe it is. You know, my heart went out to that the guy up in the nightcliff at that convenience store that had his life taken that well, just just sad. I don't have any words for that. But I don't believe as a whole that we've got an unsafe city. It's just these sort of things can be fixed. You know, I've always said this, we the problems that we have can be fixed.

Yeah, I agree with you.

Yeah, I agree with you.

Just got to find that answer. You know, we're we're growing up as a city and we just need to look at those things and how do we address those things we grow how do we address them.

Just got to find that answer. You know, we're we're growing up as a city and we just need to look at those things and how do we address those things we grow how do we address them.

Yeah, good call. Well, Sean, It's lovely to talk to you this morning. I'm sure we'll talk again very soon, and no doubt it's some stage on you know. Well we've we've spoken about some of the positives this morning as well. But lovely to talk to you this morning, and no doubt I'll talk to you again.

Yeah, good call. Well, Sean, It's lovely to talk to you this morning. I'm sure we'll talk again very soon, and no doubt it's some stage on you know. Well we've we've spoken about some of the positives this morning as well. But lovely to talk to you this morning, and no doubt I'll talk to you again.

So and you take care and thank you so much for highlighting things for us.

So and you take care and thank you so much for highlighting things for us.

Really love good on your Sean thing. And you you two

Really love good on your Sean thing. And you you two