Now, we did ask Marian Scrimdawer on the show this morning to talk about the issues that we've got in the Northern Territory when it comes to domestic violence. But as we've just told you about, yesterday afternoon at two point thirty, two teenagers entered a home in Alice Springs allegedly armed with weapons. A woman inside with her two month old baby, were four children, as I understand it, and then one of these teens allegedly struck the woman with a blunt weapon, hitting her newborn baby. Now that little bub has had to be transported A good morning to.

Now, we did ask Marian Scrimdawer on the show this morning to talk about the issues that we've got in the Northern Territory when it comes to domestic violence. But as we've just told you about, yesterday afternoon at two point thirty, two teenagers entered a home in Alice Springs allegedly armed with weapons. A woman inside with her two month old baby, were four children, as I understand it, and then one of these teens allegedly struck the woman with a blunt weapon, hitting her newborn baby. Now that little bub has had to be transported A good morning to.

You, Marian, Good morning, Cadie.

You, Marian, Good morning, Cadie.

Marian, I am, I am. I actually feel quite upset when I think about this mum with her little baby inside her own home and her other children and two people breaking in, not only taking aim at her, but striking her newborn baby with a blunt weapon. That little Bubbs had to be transported to Adelaide. It's beyond appalling.

Marian, I am, I am. I actually feel quite upset when I think about this mum with her little baby inside her own home and her other children and two people breaking in, not only taking aim at her, but striking her newborn baby with a blunt weapon. That little Bubbs had to be transported to Adelaide. It's beyond appalling.

It's disgusting, Katie, and no one should think, no one should think that that's okay, because it's not. And for a two month old baby to be hurt like they did, those young people there has to be consequences, and this is you know, I think, and I know that the I talked to Josh Berglin this morning and I talked to Josh and I said it the rally the other day. This has to be beyond DLP ALP. We've got to take the politics out of all of this, Katie. We've got to we've got to work together to deal with the issues. I'm in Catherine at the moment because Catherine's got the same issues. And I've got a discussion this afternoon with some of my federal colleagues. I've spoken to Melander and the Cartage this morning. I said, ma'am, we've got to draw a line in the sand here. We can't accept that these young people think that it's okay to go, you know, to do a home invasion. And it's what I said the other day. Case non Aboriginal women, whether it's older women, whether it's old senior people in the community, whether it's a young mum like we saw yesterday, they are being targeted and there's a lot of home invasions. And I've said to the Commissioner and I've said to the police, this isn't about alcohol. The community of Alice Springs is a wash with ice and mes anttamine and there is a real crisis happening. And I think it and when I talk to people here in Catherine and I came down yesterday, Lank Council leaders today, but as Aboriginal people, we've got to say it's not just about saying enough enough. We're going to actually do some action here. You know, it is not good enough and words, we've got to get beyond it. You know. I won't say the words that I was saying last night when I was talking to people in Alice Springs about what happened to that little one case, but it is, you know, none of us should accept or make excuses that it was okay for those young people to do what they did. And I think there has to be consequences and we've got to deal with this and let's stop making excuses for this. You know, Like I say to to the court, I was told that one of those young people. Now I just heard this third hand from someone I was talking to last night. People said that that young person had an ankle bracelet, Katie. So that means that that young person was part of the correctional system. So it's not just about plates. Where's the correction system? You know, and I know that Bill Yan, he's a goode and been part of that system. You know, we all need to get together. So I said to Josh this morning, you're going in to meet with the Commissioner and Leir and rest of your ministerial colleague. I said, let them know I will stand side by side with you and give you what and fight to get whatever federal resources are needed to try and deal with this issue. Not just analysis. I said, We've got this issue right throughout the territory. Let's be honest, you know, like governments have got to stop denying that it's just about legislation, I said, We've got to do other things that stop. See, I said, because the courts are also backing up. So you know, like let's all get together with the policy maker. You know, like this is urgent. So I'm going to form something in Alice Brains, try and get together and have two co chairs Katie, because we've got to talk about this. We've got to confront it, and we've got to be honest about it, and both governments need to resource the community to deal with it, you know, to work through.

It's disgusting, Katie, and no one should think, no one should think that that's okay, because it's not. And for a two month old baby to be hurt like they did, those young people there has to be consequences, and this is you know, I think, and I know that the I talked to Josh Berglin this morning and I talked to Josh and I said it the rally the other day. This has to be beyond DLP ALP. We've got to take the politics out of all of this, Katie. We've got to we've got to work together to deal with the issues. I'm in Catherine at the moment because Catherine's got the same issues. And I've got a discussion this afternoon with some of my federal colleagues. I've spoken to Melander and the Cartage this morning. I said, ma'am, we've got to draw a line in the sand here. We can't accept that these young people think that it's okay to go, you know, to do a home invasion. And it's what I said the other day. Case non Aboriginal women, whether it's older women, whether it's old senior people in the community, whether it's a young mum like we saw yesterday, they are being targeted and there's a lot of home invasions. And I've said to the Commissioner and I've said to the police, this isn't about alcohol. The community of Alice Springs is a wash with ice and mes anttamine and there is a real crisis happening. And I think it and when I talk to people here in Catherine and I came down yesterday, Lank Council leaders today, but as Aboriginal people, we've got to say it's not just about saying enough enough. We're going to actually do some action here. You know, it is not good enough and words, we've got to get beyond it. You know. I won't say the words that I was saying last night when I was talking to people in Alice Springs about what happened to that little one case, but it is, you know, none of us should accept or make excuses that it was okay for those young people to do what they did. And I think there has to be consequences and we've got to deal with this and let's stop making excuses for this. You know, Like I say to to the court, I was told that one of those young people. Now I just heard this third hand from someone I was talking to last night. People said that that young person had an ankle bracelet, Katie. So that means that that young person was part of the correctional system. So it's not just about plates. Where's the correction system? You know, and I know that Bill Yan, he's a goode and been part of that system. You know, we all need to get together. So I said to Josh this morning, you're going in to meet with the Commissioner and Leir and rest of your ministerial colleague. I said, let them know I will stand side by side with you and give you what and fight to get whatever federal resources are needed to try and deal with this issue. Not just analysis. I said, We've got this issue right throughout the territory. Let's be honest, you know, like governments have got to stop denying that it's just about legislation, I said, We've got to do other things that stop. See, I said, because the courts are also backing up. So you know, like let's all get together with the policy maker. You know, like this is urgent. So I'm going to form something in Alice Brains, try and get together and have two co chairs Katie, because we've got to talk about this. We've got to confront it, and we've got to be honest about it, and both governments need to resource the community to deal with it, you know, to work through.

It well, Marion, like to me, you know, we've got a situation where it is not safe for police in Alice Springs. Earlier in the week, we had a police officer driven at by I believe you's in a vehicle while he was trying to lay out tied deflation devices. We had a woman raped allegedly while she slept in her home. Now we've got an eight week old baby with serious head injuries. I mean, like realistick Lee, do we actually need the federal police or the defense force, to somebody to support us for even just a few weeks to get things under control. Because I'll say it, Marian, this is absolute bullshit. We've lost control.

It well, Marion, like to me, you know, we've got a situation where it is not safe for police in Alice Springs. Earlier in the week, we had a police officer driven at by I believe you's in a vehicle while he was trying to lay out tied deflation devices. We had a woman raped allegedly while she slept in her home. Now we've got an eight week old baby with serious head injuries. I mean, like realistick Lee, do we actually need the federal police or the defense force, to somebody to support us for even just a few weeks to get things under control. Because I'll say it, Marian, this is absolute bullshit. We've lost control.

Look, I think it's bullshit too, Katie, and I'll be making that view. And I said that to Josh, I said, you need to let the commissioner knows that he needs to call on. So what usually happens is that the commissioner is the controller here, so he needs to swallow his pride and he needs to call on the federal government to whether it's a defense force or whether it's other resources. But we need the police Commissioner to do that, CDI, because it is a crisis when I you know, I've lost counters the number of non Aboriginal women I've spoken to Analys who've made alice their homes, who are in fear of their life. I said to the Anti News this morning, Caddy, I'm scared. I'm scared to be in my home anly Spring. And you know, like women are you know, I talk to Donna ARCHI are talked to a number women are feeling really scared. Senior people are feeling really scared. And it's no different here in Catherine. So we have lost you know, the Northern Territory is in crisis, and I think the Northern Territory government has to work with the federal government and we need to do whatever it takes to deal with this. And it's got to go beyond politics, Katie. I keep saying to people, you know, I was a bit flawed yesterday when I heard that stuff. And then you know, someone wanted to interview me about you know, Peter Dutton saying he won't stand behind the Aboriginal flag, and I thought, you know, that's just a smoke, you know, like why are we talking about this? You know, the flag's not the issue an that the issue is we haven't out of control to deal with it, and both we should be coming up with salute. You know, the coaummunity wants leadership, and we've got to be able to show that leadership and work together so that people can feel safe. Like let's make Darwin the place that we all grew up in.

Look, I think it's bullshit too, Katie, and I'll be making that view. And I said that to Josh, I said, you need to let the commissioner knows that he needs to call on. So what usually happens is that the commissioner is the controller here, so he needs to swallow his pride and he needs to call on the federal government to whether it's a defense force or whether it's other resources. But we need the police Commissioner to do that, CDI, because it is a crisis when I you know, I've lost counters the number of non Aboriginal women I've spoken to Analys who've made alice their homes, who are in fear of their life. I said to the Anti News this morning, Caddy, I'm scared. I'm scared to be in my home anly Spring. And you know, like women are you know, I talk to Donna ARCHI are talked to a number women are feeling really scared. Senior people are feeling really scared. And it's no different here in Catherine. So we have lost you know, the Northern Territory is in crisis, and I think the Northern Territory government has to work with the federal government and we need to do whatever it takes to deal with this. And it's got to go beyond politics, Katie. I keep saying to people, you know, I was a bit flawed yesterday when I heard that stuff. And then you know, someone wanted to interview me about you know, Peter Dutton saying he won't stand behind the Aboriginal flag, and I thought, you know, that's just a smoke, you know, like why are we talking about this? You know, the flag's not the issue an that the issue is we haven't out of control to deal with it, and both we should be coming up with salute. You know, the coaummunity wants leadership, and we've got to be able to show that leadership and work together so that people can feel safe. Like let's make Darwin the place that we all grew up in.

Yeah, you know, and look, you and I have known each other for a long time, and I feel, you know, I feel really appalled by what's going on, and I like, I I'm really sick of people making excuses for the young people that are now committing horrendous crimes. And and I think to myself, you know, we if we keep making excuses for people when they're you know, engaging in this kind of behavior, how are we ever going to see any change?

Yeah, you know, and look, you and I have known each other for a long time, and I feel, you know, I feel really appalled by what's going on, and I like, I I'm really sick of people making excuses for the young people that are now committing horrendous crimes. And and I think to myself, you know, we if we keep making excuses for people when they're you know, engaging in this kind of behavior, how are we ever going to see any change?

We're not, Katie, And what we're seeing is the result of you know, where we make excuses. And you know, and I think we've got to We've got a line in the sand has to be drawn. And you know, our mom and you know, I've said to people if it means I get criticized or what, you know, like I think that we're just going to draw a line in the sand, because you know, I when I got told, you know that this little baby got hers. You know, it made me cry. I came. I thought, you know, what is this when a mother with her kids are in her home and you know, home invasion happened and a little one who is doing no harm to anyone gets hurt like that, you know, like we can't accept that. No, you know, like and we shouldn't accept that. And I'm just as angry as you. It just it just makes me sick and so I and that's why I spoke to Josh Bergoin again this morning because they're going into executive camp, you know, it happening. And I said to him, Josh, you've got to implore on your chief minister and your minister that we all need to work together. Yep, and let's stop this. You know, well there was ten years of labor, or there was twenty six years of seal. I said, let's forget. You know, people don't want that crap anymore. Yep. People want us to put action on the table.

We're not, Katie, And what we're seeing is the result of you know, where we make excuses. And you know, and I think we've got to We've got a line in the sand has to be drawn. And you know, our mom and you know, I've said to people if it means I get criticized or what, you know, like I think that we're just going to draw a line in the sand, because you know, I when I got told, you know that this little baby got hers. You know, it made me cry. I came. I thought, you know, what is this when a mother with her kids are in her home and you know, home invasion happened and a little one who is doing no harm to anyone gets hurt like that, you know, like we can't accept that. No, you know, like and we shouldn't accept that. And I'm just as angry as you. It just it just makes me sick and so I and that's why I spoke to Josh Bergoin again this morning because they're going into executive camp, you know, it happening. And I said to him, Josh, you've got to implore on your chief minister and your minister that we all need to work together. Yep, and let's stop this. You know, well there was ten years of labor, or there was twenty six years of seal. I said, let's forget. You know, people don't want that crap anymore. Yep. People want us to put action on the table.

And so Marian from them, that is definitely, you know, that's what they need to do. From your side of things, I mean, I know you said it's the police commissioner that realistically needs to look at calling in the AFP, if you know, if we're able to get additional resources. I mean when you talk about the scourge of ice though and amphetamines, surely that is a trigger point for them calling in some assistance from the AFP. I mean, if this is more than an alcohol issue, if this is a drug issue, we need some serious help.

And so Marian from them, that is definitely, you know, that's what they need to do. From your side of things, I mean, I know you said it's the police commissioner that realistically needs to look at calling in the AFP, if you know, if we're able to get additional resources. I mean when you talk about the scourge of ice though and amphetamines, surely that is a trigger point for them calling in some assistance from the AFP. I mean, if this is more than an alcohol issue, if this is a drug issue, we need some serious help.

See a great And I spoke earlier this morning, well but you know, like it's just it just breaks your heart with what's happening. And I said to it, you know, like having just left jealous Spring is coming to Catherine because I know that Catherine needs some help. So does Tenant Katie. So you know, I've trying to get through all these towns and things, and I've said to the federal government, I'm tired. I'm only one person, you know, Melandarien, we do need both governments, Fedment and the Northern Territory government to all come together and to you know, do whatever it takes to deal with this, because we can't allow another little one or another woman to be hurt. And you know that's it's time to draw that line now, Cardio. You know there shouldn't be any excuses for this level of behavior. And I said to someone this morning, when you see these young men and they're sixteen and seventeen in Aboriginal society, and this is where the court everyone needs to recognize. Aboriginal people don't look at those sixteen seventeen year olds as little kids. They're seen as adults. They're seen as young men. So there's consequences for that, and so we need to deal with that and deal with it properly and stop using whether it's cod culture, whether it's you know that they've got cognitive deficits, you know, like the there's got to be some consequences to this bad behavior. And I think that the Northern Tersian, the federal government, and our police forces need to look at the level of methan beettermin because when I talk to people here and Catherine, they say the same thing. It's not you know, there's grog and the domestic and family violence that comes from that. Everyone knows that. But at mass this other underbelly, which is about drugs Kadian, that needs to be you know, we've got to be honest about that and call it out and talk about it.

See a great And I spoke earlier this morning, well but you know, like it's just it just breaks your heart with what's happening. And I said to it, you know, like having just left jealous Spring is coming to Catherine because I know that Catherine needs some help. So does Tenant Katie. So you know, I've trying to get through all these towns and things, and I've said to the federal government, I'm tired. I'm only one person, you know, Melandarien, we do need both governments, Fedment and the Northern Territory government to all come together and to you know, do whatever it takes to deal with this, because we can't allow another little one or another woman to be hurt. And you know that's it's time to draw that line now, Cardio. You know there shouldn't be any excuses for this level of behavior. And I said to someone this morning, when you see these young men and they're sixteen and seventeen in Aboriginal society, and this is where the court everyone needs to recognize. Aboriginal people don't look at those sixteen seventeen year olds as little kids. They're seen as adults. They're seen as young men. So there's consequences for that, and so we need to deal with that and deal with it properly and stop using whether it's cod culture, whether it's you know that they've got cognitive deficits, you know, like the there's got to be some consequences to this bad behavior. And I think that the Northern Tersian, the federal government, and our police forces need to look at the level of methan beettermin because when I talk to people here and Catherine, they say the same thing. It's not you know, there's grog and the domestic and family violence that comes from that. Everyone knows that. But at mass this other underbelly, which is about drugs Kadian, that needs to be you know, we've got to be honest about that and call it out and talk about it.

We have got to we have got to make sure that something actually changes from this point Marin, it's you know, I'm sick of talking about it. I'm sure you're sick of talking about it, but I'm absolutely you know, I might be sick of talking about it, but I can't imagine how how frightening it is to be a woman, you know, in some of these locations at this point in time. I mean, I'm in Darwin and I second guess where I'm running and I modify how I'm living my life. So I can't imagine what it's like to be in Alice Springs right now, or in Catherine when you're thinking to yourself, Am I safe in my own home? That's where it's gone way too far?

We have got to we have got to make sure that something actually changes from this point Marin, it's you know, I'm sick of talking about it. I'm sure you're sick of talking about it, but I'm absolutely you know, I might be sick of talking about it, but I can't imagine how how frightening it is to be a woman, you know, in some of these locations at this point in time. I mean, I'm in Darwin and I second guess where I'm running and I modify how I'm living my life. So I can't imagine what it's like to be in Alice Springs right now, or in Catherine when you're thinking to yourself, Am I safe in my own home? That's where it's gone way too far?

Yeah. And look, I've got a high fence around the house I live in in alex Katie, but I've put a padlock on the gate, yep, because you know, after that breaking. But and I was talking to I've been talking to Ted Egan, you know, most days, and just keeping in touch with him and a number of you know, older people in that community, just to make sure that there are you know, but there are women who are telling me they don't sleep all night, Katie, you know, they're up all night because any little sound and they sit there and think, is it my turn tonight? You know, like people shouldn't have to live like that.

Yeah. And look, I've got a high fence around the house I live in in alex Katie, but I've put a padlock on the gate, yep, because you know, after that breaking. But and I was talking to I've been talking to Ted Egan, you know, most days, and just keeping in touch with him and a number of you know, older people in that community, just to make sure that there are you know, but there are women who are telling me they don't sleep all night, Katie, you know, they're up all night because any little sound and they sit there and think, is it my turn tonight? You know, like people shouldn't have to live like that.

No, that's exactly right.

No, that's exactly right.

It's it's what we can't say as a society and as an Aboriginal person, you know, I just say, look, it's our mob doing this. The leadership has to stand up. And I saw fantastic leadership the other day with the men saying violence against our women is our problem. It's us. We have to be the solution, not the problem, and we have to own this. Well, I'm saying to Aboriginal people throughout the territory, we've got to take back this and we've got to own it, and we've got to deal with our young people. And if we don't, then the race, you know, it'll turn into racial water and none of us want it.

It's it's what we can't say as a society and as an Aboriginal person, you know, I just say, look, it's our mob doing this. The leadership has to stand up. And I saw fantastic leadership the other day with the men saying violence against our women is our problem. It's us. We have to be the solution, not the problem, and we have to own this. Well, I'm saying to Aboriginal people throughout the territory, we've got to take back this and we've got to own it, and we've got to deal with our young people. And if we don't, then the race, you know, it'll turn into racial water and none of us want it.

That's exactly right, and that's what I'm you know, that's what I'm afraid of, to be honest with you. I can see some of it happening already where people are getting really really upset, you know, And that's not the Northern territory that I've lived in for the last twenty years. That's right, so we've got it.

That's exactly right, and that's what I'm you know, that's what I'm afraid of, to be honest with you. I can see some of it happening already where people are getting really really upset, you know, And that's not the Northern territory that I've lived in for the last twenty years. That's right, so we've got it.

If I hear any more, please do I have the conversation with my bedroom mob. Yep, but I've certainly put my hand out to the CLP government who said let's or we've got to deal with this. We can't play. You know, it's not.

If I hear any more, please do I have the conversation with my bedroom mob. Yep, but I've certainly put my hand out to the CLP government who said let's or we've got to deal with this. We can't play. You know, it's not.

About Thank you Marian for having a chat with us this morning. We're about to catch up with Ted Egan. Thank you again and we'll talk to you very soon. Good on you, Thank you Bye.

About Thank you Marian for having a chat with us this morning. We're about to catch up with Ted Egan. Thank you again and we'll talk to you very soon. Good on you, Thank you Bye.