The volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three and Out podcast.

The volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three and Out podcast.

How are we doing? It's been a long day.

How are we doing? It's been a long day.

Woke up with a little head cold, and I said, we have to watch some football because that's what we do, and that's what we did, so as I do every Sunday. I went out with Colin after the Packer Sam Donald game and it definitely was a Sam Donald game. Again, He's had a lot of those. But then he got celebrated in the locker room. And then I watched the Washington Commanders make the playoffs beat Michael Penix, and we will talk about that game right off the bat because Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix, Kingsbury, Raheem Morris, what a game man, what a game. That was fun, that was very enjoyable. It's crazy how the Commanders went from so bad to now this had a number two pick in the draft last year and now they're eleven and five playing the Cowboys. I mean there's a decent chance. I don't know if they'll rest starters whatever get to twelve wins. Also wanted to hit on some other stuff. Obviously Sam Darnold, where he ranks in the NFC, some of these bad teams winning today very NFL Tom Brady's performance, and we'll have a podcast Tuesday as well. So after the Monday night game Lions forty nine ers and yeah, do a big mail bag tomorrow. Did a couple of mailbag questions today, So make sure if you listen on Collins Feed, make sure you subscribe to three and Out. If you like a YouTube, we got a YouTube page, go subscribe to that as well.

Woke up with a little head cold, and I said, we have to watch some football because that's what we do, and that's what we did, so as I do every Sunday. I went out with Colin after the Packer Sam Donald game and it definitely was a Sam Donald game. Again, He's had a lot of those. But then he got celebrated in the locker room. And then I watched the Washington Commanders make the playoffs beat Michael Penix, and we will talk about that game right off the bat because Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix, Kingsbury, Raheem Morris, what a game man, what a game. That was fun, that was very enjoyable. It's crazy how the Commanders went from so bad to now this had a number two pick in the draft last year and now they're eleven and five playing the Cowboys. I mean there's a decent chance. I don't know if they'll rest starters whatever get to twelve wins. Also wanted to hit on some other stuff. Obviously Sam Darnold, where he ranks in the NFC, some of these bad teams winning today very NFL Tom Brady's performance, and we'll have a podcast Tuesday as well. So after the Monday night game Lions forty nine ers and yeah, do a big mail bag tomorrow. Did a couple of mailbag questions today, So make sure if you listen on Collins Feed, make sure you subscribe to three and Out. If you like a YouTube, we got a YouTube page, go subscribe to that as well.

Buckle up.

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Last Monday night football game of the year. Well, I guess there's a playoff Monday night football game now, So I was wrong there Thursday Night football over. I was gonna say, thank god, but I kind of like watching football on Thursday nights. But before we dive into everything, we've got a lot going on. I mean, there's just a lot going on. Rams also made the playoffs. Got to tell you about my friends, my partners in the official ticketing app of this podcast. If you want to go to a game, if you want to go to a concert, if you want to go to an event and have some fun my friends at game time, have you covered best ticketing app I've ever used. Easiest ticketing app to use. Buy a mile I cannot recommend them enough. Just download the app. It's really easy to do and take the guests work out of buying tickets with game Time.

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Those two quarterbacks.

Those two quarterbacks.

Now, I liked Penix more I think the last couple of years in college. Now, granted, I watched way more of Pennix than I did of Jaden Daniels, and I let Jaden daniels experience at Arizona State kind of jade my belief in him, even with his dominance at LSU. But he clearly is a pretty special player. And those two guys are just really really easy to root for. Pennix this left handed gun slinger, pocket quarterback, and Jaden Daniels, this dual threat, huge arm runs around kind of like nonchalantly. It's like Jaden, he's probably run a little faster, but maybe his running full speed, but it feels like he's going half. They're just easy guys to watch, and we'll dive into Penix. Obviously he missed some throws, and I just I really just enjoyed that experience. What was on the line for the Falcons, what they had done investing in Cousins, drafting this guy, and it looks like they're going to miss the playoffs. And then Washington, it's like this franchise has been such a joke. New owner, new quarterback, new GM boom, playoffs year one, eleven wins. So it's just that that that was fun. And I think early on in that game it was like Washington's in major trouble. They could not stop Jon Robinson, who had felt like was about to have a Saquon Barkley like day. Looked like he was going to go for one hundred and seventy yards. I mean, he was unstoppable in the first half and it felt like he.

Now, I liked Penix more I think the last couple of years in college. Now, granted, I watched way more of Pennix than I did of Jaden Daniels, and I let Jaden daniels experience at Arizona State kind of jade my belief in him, even with his dominance at LSU. But he clearly is a pretty special player. And those two guys are just really really easy to root for. Pennix this left handed gun slinger, pocket quarterback, and Jaden Daniels, this dual threat, huge arm runs around kind of like nonchalantly. It's like Jaden, he's probably run a little faster, but maybe his running full speed, but it feels like he's going half. They're just easy guys to watch, and we'll dive into Penix. Obviously he missed some throws, and I just I really just enjoyed that experience. What was on the line for the Falcons, what they had done investing in Cousins, drafting this guy, and it looks like they're going to miss the playoffs. And then Washington, it's like this franchise has been such a joke. New owner, new quarterback, new GM boom, playoffs year one, eleven wins. So it's just that that that was fun. And I think early on in that game it was like Washington's in major trouble. They could not stop Jon Robinson, who had felt like was about to have a Saquon Barkley like day. Looked like he was going to go for one hundred and seventy yards. I mean, he was unstoppable in the first half and it felt like he.

Was gaining steam.

Was gaining steam.

Jayden Daniels in the offense was really off. Kingsbury, who you know, everyone just loves and listen, he's got a lot of friends in the media. Seems like a go but offensively philosophically, I don't view football quite like him. And he went through a stretch there. It's like a Cliff, this isn't the air Raid. We're not in the Big twelve. Your quarterback is getting fucking killed. Just run the ball, take a deep breath, just let it settle. And at one point in time it's like seventeen to seven, You're like, Cliff, you can't just throw the ball constantly with the way your quarterbacks getting hit. And it's not even like this is a great pass rush. But Jaden was off and it was unraveling. And then whatever happened at halftime, they settled down and one it felt like they ran the ball a lot more. It felt like they just called a lot more easier completions. Not everything has to be a down the field bomb. And I don't know if Jaden just settled down on the speed of the game, but he was much more calm, cool, collected, comfortable and made a ton of plays down the stretch, and that final drive in overtime was was really fantastic. I mean with his legs, with his arms. Obviously, the game winning touchdown pass to ertz Ertz was fantastic tonight. I mean, what a great signing. This is what happens, you know sometimes when you restart a franchise, and then that's what Adam Peters and Dan Quinn did. And they were gonna rely heavily on Jaden Daniels this season, right, they were gonna rely heavily on him. But there was I think right before Jaden threw that game winning touchdown pass, look who was talking to him and kind of hyping him up. Not a coach Marcus Mariota. Look at how big zach Ertz was tonight, caught multiple touchdowns, had another big play in the middle of the field. Like you have to have strike a balance when you reset a franchise of getting grown ups in the building, getting guys. Obviously, you need good players you can't win eleven games without good players, and they were lucky they inherited. I mean, Terry mclaurin's having one of the best years as a wide receiver and they inherited him.

Jayden Daniels in the offense was really off. Kingsbury, who you know, everyone just loves and listen, he's got a lot of friends in the media. Seems like a go but offensively philosophically, I don't view football quite like him. And he went through a stretch there. It's like a Cliff, this isn't the air Raid. We're not in the Big twelve. Your quarterback is getting fucking killed. Just run the ball, take a deep breath, just let it settle. And at one point in time it's like seventeen to seven, You're like, Cliff, you can't just throw the ball constantly with the way your quarterbacks getting hit. And it's not even like this is a great pass rush. But Jaden was off and it was unraveling. And then whatever happened at halftime, they settled down and one it felt like they ran the ball a lot more. It felt like they just called a lot more easier completions. Not everything has to be a down the field bomb. And I don't know if Jaden just settled down on the speed of the game, but he was much more calm, cool, collected, comfortable and made a ton of plays down the stretch, and that final drive in overtime was was really fantastic. I mean with his legs, with his arms. Obviously, the game winning touchdown pass to ertz Ertz was fantastic tonight. I mean, what a great signing. This is what happens, you know sometimes when you restart a franchise, and then that's what Adam Peters and Dan Quinn did. And they were gonna rely heavily on Jaden Daniels this season, right, they were gonna rely heavily on him. But there was I think right before Jaden threw that game winning touchdown pass, look who was talking to him and kind of hyping him up. Not a coach Marcus Mariota. Look at how big zach Ertz was tonight, caught multiple touchdowns, had another big play in the middle of the field. Like you have to have strike a balance when you reset a franchise of getting grown ups in the building, getting guys. Obviously, you need good players you can't win eleven games without good players, and they were lucky they inherited. I mean, Terry mclaurin's having one of the best years as a wide receiver and they inherited him.

Right.

Right.

Defensively, they didn't have much. They had traded a couple d linemen and had to kind of start over there. But offensively, when you get Mariota, a veteran, just high character who's seen it all to be right there for your quarterback, and you get Zach Ertz who actually gets to be on the field for him. You had Brian Robinson on the team as well, but I thought Jaden tonight and Cliff really settled down because at one point in time I thought he was gonna throw away the game. I'm like, this is the guy that used to drive me bananas. Stop spreading it out when it isn't working. You're only down ten points, seven points, take a deep breath, run the ball a couple snaps. Your quarterback is all out of sync. And then they did, and everyone settled down, and all of a sudden, they come on a seventeen nothing run and they have a twenty four to seven lead, and Michael Pennix is you know, I think when you're comparing these two.

Defensively, they didn't have much. They had traded a couple d linemen and had to kind of start over there. But offensively, when you get Mariota, a veteran, just high character who's seen it all to be right there for your quarterback, and you get Zach Ertz who actually gets to be on the field for him. You had Brian Robinson on the team as well, but I thought Jaden tonight and Cliff really settled down because at one point in time I thought he was gonna throw away the game. I'm like, this is the guy that used to drive me bananas. Stop spreading it out when it isn't working. You're only down ten points, seven points, take a deep breath, run the ball a couple snaps. Your quarterback is all out of sync. And then they did, and everyone settled down, and all of a sudden, they come on a seventeen nothing run and they have a twenty four to seven lead, and Michael Pennix is you know, I think when you're comparing these two.

Quarterbacks, You're like, what.

Quarterbacks, You're like, what.

And I was telling Maria during dinner, like during the third quarter, we were eating and I was kind of describing who these two guys were, where they came from, how they both got drafted. She was a Cousin's guy because of on the Netflix show, and I'm like, yeah, he got you know, Cole's cash got sent to the bench for this guy. But he is only a second game and in football, and it was well reported last week he doesn't get any reps. So once Cousins came back from the injury in training camp, he gets all the reps. Drake London, Kyle Pitts, be John Robinson. Those are all Cousins and Michael Penis got none till the start of last week. Because I'm a big Michael Pennis guy. I liked the draft pick. I don't like the way it all came together with like signing Cousins and him, but just in a vacuum. I like Michael Pennix the player. But there were a ton of throws tonight. He hit some big ones. Obviously the game tying throw that essentially sent the game to overtime to Kyle Pitts, which was an absolute dime on fourth down. But like, there were several throws that he would have made in his sleep at Washington that he missed tonight And it wasn't because his arm wasn't good enough or he had shitty footwork.

And I was telling Maria during dinner, like during the third quarter, we were eating and I was kind of describing who these two guys were, where they came from, how they both got drafted. She was a Cousin's guy because of on the Netflix show, and I'm like, yeah, he got you know, Cole's cash got sent to the bench for this guy. But he is only a second game and in football, and it was well reported last week he doesn't get any reps. So once Cousins came back from the injury in training camp, he gets all the reps. Drake London, Kyle Pitts, be John Robinson. Those are all Cousins and Michael Penis got none till the start of last week. Because I'm a big Michael Pennis guy. I liked the draft pick. I don't like the way it all came together with like signing Cousins and him, but just in a vacuum. I like Michael Pennix the player. But there were a ton of throws tonight. He hit some big ones. Obviously the game tying throw that essentially sent the game to overtime to Kyle Pitts, which was an absolute dime on fourth down. But like, there were several throws that he would have made in his sleep at Washington that he missed tonight And it wasn't because his arm wasn't good enough or he had shitty footwork.

He just missed the throw.

He just missed the throw.

And it's like, well, of course he hasn't practiced with these guys at all till fourteen days ago. So the timing with these guys on some of these routes, the footwork to setting up your throat to hitching and letting it rip is just gonna be off. Why he's practicing with a bunch of practice squad receivers, And like is Atlanta in this spot? If he started the whole year, I don't know who knows how it would have gone. But to throw him in last week when coming up was this game on the road in Washington, basically with your season on the line, is this bad management? Especially when Cousins had been playing as shitty as he was playing, like he had been terrible for a while. They should have got him in the game sooner. They should have started him earlier in the year. Like listen once you draft him like you got both guys. It was pretty evident. Like a month ago, Cousins looked shot like this thing was over. But listen, anytime you make an investment, anytime that you go all in on some thing, you don't want to look like an idiot. The front office, the coach, and they let it ride. And I think they let it ride a couple weeks too long, because this might not have been a close game if Pennix just had more reps going with his guys, because tonight I thought it was pretty evident that the timing was off. Now that being said, he's really talented and he made I mean that couple of those throws on the final drive in regulation where he hit London, where he hit Pits, I mean that felt a little bit like Alex Smith the Vernon Davis fifteen years ago. It wasn't quite the same, but Steve Young to Terrell Owens, you got to put it right, like you have no room. He's running right down the middle of the field. You got multiple defenders, one ahead of them, one behind him, you got another one coming across, and the throw has to be perfect like there is probably I don't know a couple foot radius where you can put the ball, and he did, and then obviously Washington gets the ball and never looks back in overtime, scores a touchdown and some men's the game. But I think if you're an Atlanta Falcons fan, you gotta be asking yourself, like, would this have been different if he would have got in the game earlier in the season, because one thing that Washington really benefited from and you felt it tonight, because let's face it, Jade looked terrible halfway through that game, like it's just off and I started thinking, like, it's gonna suck. He's having this fantastic rookie season, but million this is gonna be the one of their most watched games of the year. And it felt like just he and the offense was just unraveling a little bit. It's like, God, this is gonna leave such a bad taste in everyone's mouth. People are gonna use this, And as the game went on, he just settled down. Obviously Cliff did a better job of calling plays, but his experience to lean back over game after game after game after game, I mean, this guy's played ever snap for him, I guess he got injured and Mariota came in the one game, but you know what I mean, like this guy has a lot of game reps now in the National Football League. Both these two guys played a ton in college. Yiden Daniels five year starter. Pennix some injuries are factored in there, but was a six year starter in college. But the NFL is a different animal. It's a different speed. All the defensive players are dramatically better. And I think you just saw like some rust over lack of reps with Michael Pennix as the game went on, he was this very hit or miss throw to throw, where Jaden Daniels as the game went on, felt like he got stronger. Why he does this every week, but as a massive win by Washington, it really is. And even their defense like they do not have some stacked defense with a bunch of Pro bowlers. And you watched as that game went on and they asked Dan Quinn about it, like, how are you gonna stop Bejon Robinson. He's like, we gotta get our pads down. We got to tackle him, And it just felt like they corralled them much better in the second half because if they hadn't and didn't tackle him as well, and just I don't know, found a way to slow him down. They were going to be in major truck because you're watching the first half going yeah, I get why they drafted him in the top ten. I guess I get why my scouting buddies that did Texas love this guy because he is a physical monster.

And it's like, well, of course he hasn't practiced with these guys at all till fourteen days ago. So the timing with these guys on some of these routes, the footwork to setting up your throat to hitching and letting it rip is just gonna be off. Why he's practicing with a bunch of practice squad receivers, And like is Atlanta in this spot? If he started the whole year, I don't know who knows how it would have gone. But to throw him in last week when coming up was this game on the road in Washington, basically with your season on the line, is this bad management? Especially when Cousins had been playing as shitty as he was playing, like he had been terrible for a while. They should have got him in the game sooner. They should have started him earlier in the year. Like listen once you draft him like you got both guys. It was pretty evident. Like a month ago, Cousins looked shot like this thing was over. But listen, anytime you make an investment, anytime that you go all in on some thing, you don't want to look like an idiot. The front office, the coach, and they let it ride. And I think they let it ride a couple weeks too long, because this might not have been a close game if Pennix just had more reps going with his guys, because tonight I thought it was pretty evident that the timing was off. Now that being said, he's really talented and he made I mean that couple of those throws on the final drive in regulation where he hit London, where he hit Pits, I mean that felt a little bit like Alex Smith the Vernon Davis fifteen years ago. It wasn't quite the same, but Steve Young to Terrell Owens, you got to put it right, like you have no room. He's running right down the middle of the field. You got multiple defenders, one ahead of them, one behind him, you got another one coming across, and the throw has to be perfect like there is probably I don't know a couple foot radius where you can put the ball, and he did, and then obviously Washington gets the ball and never looks back in overtime, scores a touchdown and some men's the game. But I think if you're an Atlanta Falcons fan, you gotta be asking yourself, like, would this have been different if he would have got in the game earlier in the season, because one thing that Washington really benefited from and you felt it tonight, because let's face it, Jade looked terrible halfway through that game, like it's just off and I started thinking, like, it's gonna suck. He's having this fantastic rookie season, but million this is gonna be the one of their most watched games of the year. And it felt like just he and the offense was just unraveling a little bit. It's like, God, this is gonna leave such a bad taste in everyone's mouth. People are gonna use this, And as the game went on, he just settled down. Obviously Cliff did a better job of calling plays, but his experience to lean back over game after game after game after game, I mean, this guy's played ever snap for him, I guess he got injured and Mariota came in the one game, but you know what I mean, like this guy has a lot of game reps now in the National Football League. Both these two guys played a ton in college. Yiden Daniels five year starter. Pennix some injuries are factored in there, but was a six year starter in college. But the NFL is a different animal. It's a different speed. All the defensive players are dramatically better. And I think you just saw like some rust over lack of reps with Michael Pennix as the game went on, he was this very hit or miss throw to throw, where Jaden Daniels as the game went on, felt like he got stronger. Why he does this every week, but as a massive win by Washington, it really is. And even their defense like they do not have some stacked defense with a bunch of Pro bowlers. And you watched as that game went on and they asked Dan Quinn about it, like, how are you gonna stop Bejon Robinson. He's like, we gotta get our pads down. We got to tackle him, And it just felt like they corralled them much better in the second half because if they hadn't and didn't tackle him as well, and just I don't know, found a way to slow him down. They were going to be in major truck because you're watching the first half going yeah, I get why they drafted him in the top ten. I guess I get why my scouting buddies that did Texas love this guy because he is a physical monster.

Turns out he's an actor too.

Turns out he's an actor too.

But that is that was a fun football game and if you're Atlanta, you gotta be going, shit, we're up seventeen to seven on the road.

But that is that was a fun football game and if you're Atlanta, you gotta be going, shit, we're up seventeen to seven on the road.

What the hell happened?

What the hell happened?

How did we unravel like that? And some big plays were given up by their defense and obviously Jayden just I mean one thing, one major difference obviously when you just watched the two guys, the reason one guy was the number two overall pick and the other guy was a controversial even if Atlanta, any team that was going to take him in the top ten, like Michael Pennix, would have been a polarizing pick.

How did we unravel like that? And some big plays were given up by their defense and obviously Jayden just I mean one thing, one major difference obviously when you just watched the two guys, the reason one guy was the number two overall pick and the other guy was a controversial even if Atlanta, any team that was going to take him in the top ten, like Michael Pennix, would have been a polarizing pick.

He's a pocket quarterback.

He's a pocket quarterback.

He is, I mean, he's essentially if he's gonna be a bigger Tua, but unlike too, he's got way bigger hands. I like him more than Tua coming out, but like that's gonna be the style of his game just in terms of you know, he's gonna try to get the ball out of his hand quickly.

He is, I mean, he's essentially if he's gonna be a bigger Tua, but unlike too, he's got way bigger hands. I like him more than Tua coming out, but like that's gonna be the style of his game just in terms of you know, he's gonna try to get the ball out of his hand quickly.

He throws a better deep ball.

He throws a better deep ball.

But both those guys like he's just a bigger, stronger version of Tua. Jayden Daniels is like some version of like Lamar Jackson right throws a fantastic strike, Like there were so many balls early on in that game where he's just hitting guys like one to two ball right out of his hand. You're like, this guy's thrown ninety mile hour seeds. And then obviously with the running game, his ability to make guys missing space. Defensive linemen never have him despite the angles, and he can keep plays alive to gain first downs pretty easily. Like he makes a guy missing space no problem, And that was a huge point of difference tonight. How many times to night when they needed a big play they got him on the edge, especially running to his right. He's really fucking dangerous. Obviously he has the speed if he has and you don't have an angle to get to the first down just around everybody, But he also has the ability to make a guy miss, and he's not new in some crazy like Barry Sanders shady, you know, hips moving in space, but he's kind of got like a subtle undermove where he just goes right around you and all of a sudden, you're just hugging air. And well, I don't know what his final numbers were on the ground, but he had sixteen carries. God, he had sixteen carries for one hundred and twenty seven yards. Sixteen carries for one hundred and twenty seven yards, so they ran for two hundred and sixteen yards and he had a I mean he threw for two hundred and twenty seven and had one hundred and twenty seven. I mean he accounted for us essentially three hundred yards, like three hundred and fifty yards. But fantastic effort by by Jane Daniels. Holy shit, I didn't realize he had that many yards on the ground. I really didn't one thing with the Falcons to night up until that final drive where I thought Pandic showed a lot. Is they were terrible going into that final drive, they were one and seven. On third down, he hit a big first down to Drake London and then on that fourth down play obviously hit the play to Kyle Pitts and that was after remember on first and goal. Some of these coordinators, man, they get just so cute trying to run a wildcat. It's like your quarterback had just led you down the field. Win or lose with a quarterback. And if you do want the ball in Bijohn's hand, either run a wheel route for him or hand him the ball, but to run wildcat with him. And I know it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback when the ball flies over his head, but it's insane after that fucked up fumble that they ended up scoring a touchdown. I mean, what a testament to Michael Pennock's And this is why I like Michael Pennick so much, because it's very evident with Jayden, like these guys are mentally tough. It's hard to rattle these cats. They have played a ton that this is not one year starter. This is not two years for k little bit usc right.

But both those guys like he's just a bigger, stronger version of Tua. Jayden Daniels is like some version of like Lamar Jackson right throws a fantastic strike, Like there were so many balls early on in that game where he's just hitting guys like one to two ball right out of his hand. You're like, this guy's thrown ninety mile hour seeds. And then obviously with the running game, his ability to make guys missing space. Defensive linemen never have him despite the angles, and he can keep plays alive to gain first downs pretty easily. Like he makes a guy missing space no problem, And that was a huge point of difference tonight. How many times to night when they needed a big play they got him on the edge, especially running to his right. He's really fucking dangerous. Obviously he has the speed if he has and you don't have an angle to get to the first down just around everybody, But he also has the ability to make a guy miss, and he's not new in some crazy like Barry Sanders shady, you know, hips moving in space, but he's kind of got like a subtle undermove where he just goes right around you and all of a sudden, you're just hugging air. And well, I don't know what his final numbers were on the ground, but he had sixteen carries. God, he had sixteen carries for one hundred and twenty seven yards. Sixteen carries for one hundred and twenty seven yards, so they ran for two hundred and sixteen yards and he had a I mean he threw for two hundred and twenty seven and had one hundred and twenty seven. I mean he accounted for us essentially three hundred yards, like three hundred and fifty yards. But fantastic effort by by Jane Daniels. Holy shit, I didn't realize he had that many yards on the ground. I really didn't one thing with the Falcons to night up until that final drive where I thought Pandic showed a lot. Is they were terrible going into that final drive, they were one and seven. On third down, he hit a big first down to Drake London and then on that fourth down play obviously hit the play to Kyle Pitts and that was after remember on first and goal. Some of these coordinators, man, they get just so cute trying to run a wildcat. It's like your quarterback had just led you down the field. Win or lose with a quarterback. And if you do want the ball in Bijohn's hand, either run a wheel route for him or hand him the ball, but to run wildcat with him. And I know it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback when the ball flies over his head, but it's insane after that fucked up fumble that they ended up scoring a touchdown. I mean, what a testament to Michael Pennock's And this is why I like Michael Pennick so much, because it's very evident with Jayden, like these guys are mentally tough. It's hard to rattle these cats. They have played a ton that this is not one year starter. This is not two years for k little bit usc right.

And it's like, God, it's just unraveling like these guys.

And it's like, God, it's just unraveling like these guys.

These guys have seen some shit five and six year starters in college. I guess the amount of games those two guys ran out the tunnel for in college is pretty nuts. And you know, Pennis had been better for longer. Obviously, Jayden whatever clicked last year, he's never looked back. But you know, Jayden's a pretty special player.

These guys have seen some shit five and six year starters in college. I guess the amount of games those two guys ran out the tunnel for in college is pretty nuts. And you know, Pennis had been better for longer. Obviously, Jayden whatever clicked last year, he's never looked back. But you know, Jayden's a pretty special player.

I think Michael Pennock's gonna be good.

I think Michael Pennock's gonna be good.

And I think this falls on the Atlanta Falcons for waiting this long, like they're gonna miss the playoffs, because like their quarterback situation was clunky.

And I think this falls on the Atlanta Falcons for waiting this long, like they're gonna miss the playoffs, because like their quarterback situation was clunky.

It really was.

It really was.

They give a hundred million dollars to a guy with the torn achilles and then he's playing so shitty, and then they wait a game and he keeps playing shitty, and then they wait a couple more games and they finally.

They give a hundred million dollars to a guy with the torn achilles and then he's playing so shitty, and then they wait a game and he keeps playing shitty, and then they wait a couple more games and they finally.

Pulled the trigger and it's kind of too late.

Pulled the trigger and it's kind of too late.

And now you're gonna look up and Tampa's gonna be probably playing like the Lions in the first round, and a lot of pressure then would be on the Lions. And Baker Mayfield's actually playing pretty well. But like, Tampa Bay's just much better run than the Atlanta Falcons. I don't know, is that even, like can we even argue that, like Tampa's a well run franchise. Atlanta has some good players, but like do they know what they're doing? Do they just kind of throw some stuff at the wall and hope it sticks. Because that's the thing. Like I've known Adam Peters for a while. Like Washington has a plan, Like they have an idea what they want to do. Obviously they're a head of schedule this year, but like they have a clear idea of what they're going to do over the next couple of years in Atlanta, Like I don't know, like they got some good players, like the trade for Judah, it just feels like they're kind of flying by the seat of their pants, and uh, at the end of the day, it kind of bit them.

And now you're gonna look up and Tampa's gonna be probably playing like the Lions in the first round, and a lot of pressure then would be on the Lions. And Baker Mayfield's actually playing pretty well. But like, Tampa Bay's just much better run than the Atlanta Falcons. I don't know, is that even, like can we even argue that, like Tampa's a well run franchise. Atlanta has some good players, but like do they know what they're doing? Do they just kind of throw some stuff at the wall and hope it sticks. Because that's the thing. Like I've known Adam Peters for a while. Like Washington has a plan, Like they have an idea what they want to do. Obviously they're a head of schedule this year, but like they have a clear idea of what they're going to do over the next couple of years in Atlanta, Like I don't know, like they got some good players, like the trade for Judah, it just feels like they're kind of flying by the seat of their pants, and uh, at the end of the day, it kind of bit them.

But congrats to Washington.

But congrats to Washington.

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About this, but I got a question from the mail bag that I think is pretty interesting. So let's it can kind of lead us to where we want to talk about Sam Darnold, who had one of the coolest moments after the game in the locker room. And I think it serves as a great example that, like and you don't have to be NFL quarterback talent. I just think this. Any human being can relate to this. You are gonna go through some shitty times in life. It is inevitable, it is not avoidable. Professionally, you are going to have a rough stretch. Some is worse than others, but all of us can relate to tough times professionally. And Sam Donald's was very public and everyone made fun of him and it was just embarrassing. But you know what, he just kept his head up and he kept swinging and it never felt like he battled it like fuck everybody. He just like kept his head up, kept swinging, kept his head up, kept swinging. Goes last year to San Francisco changed the course of his career.

About this, but I got a question from the mail bag that I think is pretty interesting. So let's it can kind of lead us to where we want to talk about Sam Darnold, who had one of the coolest moments after the game in the locker room. And I think it serves as a great example that, like and you don't have to be NFL quarterback talent. I just think this. Any human being can relate to this. You are gonna go through some shitty times in life. It is inevitable, it is not avoidable. Professionally, you are going to have a rough stretch. Some is worse than others, but all of us can relate to tough times professionally. And Sam Donald's was very public and everyone made fun of him and it was just embarrassing. But you know what, he just kept his head up and he kept swinging and it never felt like he battled it like fuck everybody. He just like kept his head up, kept swinging, kept his head up, kept swinging. Goes last year to San Francisco changed the course of his career.

Goes to Kevin.

Goes to Kevin.

O'Connell and is now just having a career year and his team freaking loves him. If you're a Minnesota Vikings fan, you watch that game to day. I mean he was brilliant. Beside a couple passes, he looked like Joe Montana meets Josh Allen.

O'Connell and is now just having a career year and his team freaking loves him. If you're a Minnesota Vikings fan, you watch that game to day. I mean he was brilliant. Beside a couple passes, he looked like Joe Montana meets Josh Allen.

I mean was he was incredible.

I mean was he was incredible.

And I got this question that says, where does Donald rank? Because we know in the AFC, five best quarterbacks in the NFL are in the AFC. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert. Those are the five best quarterbacks in the National Football League and they play in the AFC. But what about the NFC, because the only two guys I would clearly take over him right now are Golf and Hurts. Then it's the class of the DAK love Baker Stafford.

And I got this question that says, where does Donald rank? Because we know in the AFC, five best quarterbacks in the NFL are in the AFC. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert. Those are the five best quarterbacks in the National Football League and they play in the AFC. But what about the NFC, because the only two guys I would clearly take over him right now are Golf and Hurts. Then it's the class of the DAK love Baker Stafford.

I'll throw a party in there, try to give him a little love.

I'll throw a party in there, try to give him a little love.

I think Sam Donald again, because we can only base his success on this season. Like Sam Donald's success is this season. You have nothing else to go back on because it was unsuccessful before this year. So just based on this season. The only guy in the NFC that has an argument, and I was looking at their numbers actually during the game is Jared Goff, who statistically was more accurate. And I don't know exactly the touchdowns, they wouldn't be equal because GoF plays on Monday Night Football, but like they're having Gof's actually thrown for more yards, but Sam Donald is it does feel like what it means just a fact, is more athletic. Obviously Donald has a stronger arm, but both guys have been unreal Locke NFC.

I think Sam Donald again, because we can only base his success on this season. Like Sam Donald's success is this season. You have nothing else to go back on because it was unsuccessful before this year. So just based on this season. The only guy in the NFC that has an argument, and I was looking at their numbers actually during the game is Jared Goff, who statistically was more accurate. And I don't know exactly the touchdowns, they wouldn't be equal because GoF plays on Monday Night Football, but like they're having Gof's actually thrown for more yards, but Sam Donald is it does feel like what it means just a fact, is more athletic. Obviously Donald has a stronger arm, but both guys have been unreal Locke NFC.

Pro Bowl guys.

Pro Bowl guys.

Sam Donald this year, over the course of his career, obviously it's not even debatable, but just talking twenty twenty four has been objectively better than Jalen Hurts. And honestly, the gaf's pretty wide and I'm not count Obviously he didn't play today because of the concussion, but before a couple of weeks ago, Jalen was not having a very good season passing like, he was not throwing many touchdowns. And it's not like he doesn't have guys to throw touchdowns too. Ironically, today they got backups in Kenny Pickett and Tanner McKee that are just throwing touchdown after touchdown after touchdown.

Sam Donald this year, over the course of his career, obviously it's not even debatable, but just talking twenty twenty four has been objectively better than Jalen Hurts. And honestly, the gaf's pretty wide and I'm not count Obviously he didn't play today because of the concussion, but before a couple of weeks ago, Jalen was not having a very good season passing like, he was not throwing many touchdowns. And it's not like he doesn't have guys to throw touchdowns too. Ironically, today they got backups in Kenny Pickett and Tanner McKee that are just throwing touchdown after touchdown after touchdown.

If you touchdown, it was crazy.

If you touchdown, it was crazy.

But I would say this based on this season, the only guy you would take over Sam Donald would be Jared Goff. And here's what I know Jared Goff would not be as good on Minnesota because Jared can't move, and right now, Minnesota's offensive line is a little hit or miss. So part of Sam Donald's success is moving around. Like they would actually be better off. They might even take Jalen Hurts over Jared Goff because they need some mobility, because they couldn't have a guy that can't really move. Jared obviously not a mobile guy, but has a great offensive line.

But I would say this based on this season, the only guy you would take over Sam Donald would be Jared Goff. And here's what I know Jared Goff would not be as good on Minnesota because Jared can't move, and right now, Minnesota's offensive line is a little hit or miss. So part of Sam Donald's success is moving around. Like they would actually be better off. They might even take Jalen Hurts over Jared Goff because they need some mobility, because they couldn't have a guy that can't really move. Jared obviously not a mobile guy, but has a great offensive line.

So it's a good question.

So it's a good question.

I think what Sam has done remarkable and very cool.

I think what Sam has done remarkable and very cool.

Cool year.

Cool year.

I mean at this point in time, Like if you're arguing get rid of him and go with JJ McCarthy, like we probably wouldn't be friends. Like, I think there's only one outcome now if we want to argue whether you franchise, tag him or sign him to a long term contract. Like okay, we could have that argument, but Sam Darnold has to be their quarterback next year.

I mean at this point in time, Like if you're arguing get rid of him and go with JJ McCarthy, like we probably wouldn't be friends. Like, I think there's only one outcome now if we want to argue whether you franchise, tag him or sign him to a long term contract. Like okay, we could have that argument, but Sam Darnold has to be their quarterback next year.

I mean it has to happen.

I mean it has to happen.

I mean, Jordan Love got one hundred and sixty million dollars seventy five million dollars signing bonus, three twenty five million dollar increments over the course. I think he just actually recently got one around Christmas. His last pretty good signing bonus three twenty five million dollar.

I mean, Jordan Love got one hundred and sixty million dollars seventy five million dollars signing bonus, three twenty five million dollar increments over the course. I think he just actually recently got one around Christmas. His last pretty good signing bonus three twenty five million dollar.

A little direct deposits.

A little direct deposits.

They are taxed, so it's probably you know, I don't know exactly no the Green Bay tax rates, but fifteen fourteen, I mean it's a.

They are taxed, so it's probably you know, I don't know exactly no the Green Bay tax rates, but fifteen fourteen, I mean it's a.

Lot of largest chunk of money. So Jordan Love's living well.

Lot of largest chunk of money. So Jordan Love's living well.

But he got that based on eight games and a Cowboy game because he threw two picks in the Niner game and one that ended the game for Nell. So Sam Darnold, like at this point in time, has really start to finish. Beside a couple games mixed into the season, been an elite player, I mean, been a dominant, dominant player. He's gonna be the Minnesota Vikings quarterback next season. A lot of talk about the draft. A couple quick things I wrote down about the draft. The Patriots are the only team locked into a top five pick, so of all the shitty teams, they're the only team that is guaranteed to draft in the top five. Four teams as of right now, this is my guy.

But he got that based on eight games and a Cowboy game because he threw two picks in the Niner game and one that ended the game for Nell. So Sam Darnold, like at this point in time, has really start to finish. Beside a couple games mixed into the season, been an elite player, I mean, been a dominant, dominant player. He's gonna be the Minnesota Vikings quarterback next season. A lot of talk about the draft. A couple quick things I wrote down about the draft. The Patriots are the only team locked into a top five pick, so of all the shitty teams, they're the only team that is guaranteed to draft in the top five. Four teams as of right now, this is my guy.

Field Yates actually tweeted this out. I just wrote down because I love these Nuggets.

Field Yates actually tweeted this out. I just wrote down because I love these Nuggets.

Four teams currently heading into Week eighteen have a shot for the number one overall pick, obviously the Patriots, the Cleveland Browns, the Tennessee Titans, and the New York Football Giants. So I got this question. I think it's intriguing because I think this was a topic that I definitely wanted to hit on today. Me and Colin didn't talk about it. The Giants had one thing going for them, the chance at the number one overall pick, and those idiots, he didn't even use a little meaner word, go and win the game. I'm no longer a fan. A pointless win will cost them a real quarterback. They simply get everything wrong. Here's the shitty part about being a fan, like you've endured this entire season, if you're a Giants fan, or up until a couple weeks ago, a Raider fan, and really the only hope you had as the season went on was maybe to see neighbors or brock Bowers make some sweet plays, but also keep losing like no one is rooting for you to lose, until all of a sudden, your record is so pitiful getting close to Christmas, there is no point to win. So we could have the number one overall pick, even if the number one overall pick doesn't guarantee us anything. Here's the problem, and this is the power of the NFL. No coach, no player gives a shit, None of them don't try. Just know this whenever the Chicago Bears, they have lost ten straight NFL football games.

Four teams currently heading into Week eighteen have a shot for the number one overall pick, obviously the Patriots, the Cleveland Browns, the Tennessee Titans, and the New York Football Giants. So I got this question. I think it's intriguing because I think this was a topic that I definitely wanted to hit on today. Me and Colin didn't talk about it. The Giants had one thing going for them, the chance at the number one overall pick, and those idiots, he didn't even use a little meaner word, go and win the game. I'm no longer a fan. A pointless win will cost them a real quarterback. They simply get everything wrong. Here's the shitty part about being a fan, like you've endured this entire season, if you're a Giants fan, or up until a couple weeks ago, a Raider fan, and really the only hope you had as the season went on was maybe to see neighbors or brock Bowers make some sweet plays, but also keep losing like no one is rooting for you to lose, until all of a sudden, your record is so pitiful getting close to Christmas, there is no point to win. So we could have the number one overall pick, even if the number one overall pick doesn't guarantee us anything. Here's the problem, and this is the power of the NFL. No coach, no player gives a shit, None of them don't try. Just know this whenever the Chicago Bears, they have lost ten straight NFL football games.

I mean, that's pretty hard to do.

I mean, that's pretty hard to do.

I don't know what the reck I guess the record's own sixteen, But like I would imagine there's a short list of teams over the last decade that have lost more than ten straight games, or even up to ten like that's that's very, very difficult to do. Just know this, they have literally tried very hard, While it might not show on television to win all ten of those games, they have wanted to prepared, worked game planned to try to win. And that's the power of football. You know, in basketball, people tank all the time. It's the league's been tanking well before Darryl Morey or the process and Sam Hinky well before it became in vogue and much more famous. But we've noticed been going on for a long time. Think about the most controversial thing to happen over like the last three or four years when it comes to that type stuff in football. It was Steven Ross told Brian Flores, I want you to lose games. I will pay you one hundred grand every game you lose. Brian Flores in a draft that had Joe fucking Burrow won three of his last four games, maybe three of his last five games. I think he won three games in the month of December, and they went from a shoe in to get Joe Burrow, who clearly would have changed their entire franchise. Hell, they're not even that terrible right now. They've made the playoffs the last couple of years. They'll probably end up going nine to eight. And they got to a who's middle of the road at best. They could I know he didn't play today, but could add Joe Burrow and Brian Flores and the rest of his coaches and the rest of his players said not so fast, my friend, And they won games.

I don't know what the reck I guess the record's own sixteen, But like I would imagine there's a short list of teams over the last decade that have lost more than ten straight games, or even up to ten like that's that's very, very difficult to do. Just know this, they have literally tried very hard, While it might not show on television to win all ten of those games, they have wanted to prepared, worked game planned to try to win. And that's the power of football. You know, in basketball, people tank all the time. It's the league's been tanking well before Darryl Morey or the process and Sam Hinky well before it became in vogue and much more famous. But we've noticed been going on for a long time. Think about the most controversial thing to happen over like the last three or four years when it comes to that type stuff in football. It was Steven Ross told Brian Flores, I want you to lose games. I will pay you one hundred grand every game you lose. Brian Flores in a draft that had Joe fucking Burrow won three of his last four games, maybe three of his last five games. I think he won three games in the month of December, and they went from a shoe in to get Joe Burrow, who clearly would have changed their entire franchise. Hell, they're not even that terrible right now. They've made the playoffs the last couple of years. They'll probably end up going nine to eight. And they got to a who's middle of the road at best. They could I know he didn't play today, but could add Joe Burrow and Brian Flores and the rest of his coaches and the rest of his players said not so fast, my friend, And they won games.

Hell, they they actually the Bengals. I mean that was a big.

Hell, they they actually the Bengals. I mean that was a big.

Reason than Bengals ended up with Joe Burrow.

Reason than Bengals ended up with Joe Burrow.

No, granted, they took the wrong quarterback. They should have taken.

No, granted, they took the wrong quarterback. They should have taken.

Herbert, but everyone tries in football. Everyone tries. You might get your ass kicked, like you might get warped. I was watching the BYU Colorado game last night. Colorado got their ass kicked. They were trying and they were trying hard. And that's what you know as a consumer. You know when you turn on the game that ideally you get something situation like Washington Atlanta where it's a very entertaining just back and forth. Either team could win. Like obviously that's the best case scenario just from an entertainment standpoint, but it's just it's a point of differentiation for football that no matter what till the last snap week eighteen, coaches, players are going to try their ass off. I saw Foster Monroe, I retweeted it.

Herbert, but everyone tries in football. Everyone tries. You might get your ass kicked, like you might get warped. I was watching the BYU Colorado game last night. Colorado got their ass kicked. They were trying and they were trying hard. And that's what you know as a consumer. You know when you turn on the game that ideally you get something situation like Washington Atlanta where it's a very entertaining just back and forth. Either team could win. Like obviously that's the best case scenario just from an entertainment standpoint, but it's just it's a point of differentiation for football that no matter what till the last snap week eighteen, coaches, players are going to try their ass off. I saw Foster Monroe, I retweeted it.

Who is on the.

Who is on the.

Saints just went on this long, long kind of rant about like if if you're not willing to lay it on the line every single week, Like just get out of this locker room like this this sport is way too hard. No one cares, Like no, the majority of the guys on a team are not guaranteed a roster spot. That's where guaranteed money comes in. Coaches can get fired at any moment, and it sucks to be a fan in that situation. Not because Shador guarantees you anything. Shador might be good in the NFL. He might not.

Saints just went on this long, long kind of rant about like if if you're not willing to lay it on the line every single week, Like just get out of this locker room like this this sport is way too hard. No one cares, Like no, the majority of the guys on a team are not guaranteed a roster spot. That's where guaranteed money comes in. Coaches can get fired at any moment, and it sucks to be a fan in that situation. Not because Shador guarantees you anything. Shador might be good in the NFL. He might not.

We have no clue.

We have no clue.

And I mean I thought Caleb Williams all I was told by everybody. He's like, can't miss greatest players since Joe Montana meets John Elway, meets Andrew Luck meets Peyton Manning meets Michael Vick, meets Lamar Jackson. You watch him, he looks fucking terrible.

And I mean I thought Caleb Williams all I was told by everybody. He's like, can't miss greatest players since Joe Montana meets John Elway, meets Andrew Luck meets Peyton Manning meets Michael Vick, meets Lamar Jackson. You watch him, he looks fucking terrible.

It's like, well, it's coaches.

It's like, well, it's coaches.

The circumstances, like he holds on the ball for like fifteen seconds every other play, so you never know anything. And that's kind of a sneaky problem with Shador. He holds on the ball. But and I like Shador Sanders, but I like Caleb too, and then you.

The circumstances, like he holds on the ball for like fifteen seconds every other play, so you never know anything. And that's kind of a sneaky problem with Shador. He holds on the ball. But and I like Shador Sanders, but I like Caleb too, and then you.

Just you never know. This sport's really hard.

Just you never know. This sport's really hard.

But ultimately my point is that you have to acknowledge, like or just accept the fact that any game, no matter how crappy your team is, no matter how bad it is, you can just win a game. You can just win a game because the coaches and the players are really going to be trying. Okay, Tom Brady. Tom Brady's performance has given me a greater appreciation for Tony Rommel. I hate doing this because you don't become the greatest teammate of all time. And everyone that plays with you, obviously they revere your ability and your accomplishments. But like everyone to a man that I've ever met that played for the Patriots, like Tom's just a good guy. Tom's just a legit nice dude. And it's hard. He's an easy guy to just follow his lead, and if you play around him, you get better. And the way he treats, especially as he got more famous, the way he treated everybody, the way he treats his coaches, the assistant coaches, people around the building, like no one that was ever around him in New England and obviously Tampa, I've ever heard a bad word about him, like not a word. So it pains me to do this, but I've tried to come around like, you know, he's.

But ultimately my point is that you have to acknowledge, like or just accept the fact that any game, no matter how crappy your team is, no matter how bad it is, you can just win a game. You can just win a game because the coaches and the players are really going to be trying. Okay, Tom Brady. Tom Brady's performance has given me a greater appreciation for Tony Rommel. I hate doing this because you don't become the greatest teammate of all time. And everyone that plays with you, obviously they revere your ability and your accomplishments. But like everyone to a man that I've ever met that played for the Patriots, like Tom's just a good guy. Tom's just a legit nice dude. And it's hard. He's an easy guy to just follow his lead, and if you play around him, you get better. And the way he treats, especially as he got more famous, the way he treated everybody, the way he treats his coaches, the assistant coaches, people around the building, like no one that was ever around him in New England and obviously Tampa, I've ever heard a bad word about him, like not a word. So it pains me to do this, but I've tried to come around like, you know, he's.

Just not that good. He's just not that good.

Just not that good. He's just not that good.

It's very difficult for Tom to just be the Tom that can like shoot the shit with Julian Edelman when the cameras are off, because clearly there's a different guy. And sometimes, like my YouTube clip, will feed will throw me something like John Madden or even like when you see John Gruden doing these clips now for barstool, but the same with Monday Night. He was like that when he was Thraders, like he just that's just him. John Gruden is just or I mean, John Madden was just John Madden. There's such a joy to Chris Collinsworth when he's calling a game. Tony Romo has actually kind of grown on me. I used to think he was cheesy, but it's like, that's just kind of him. I think Brady goes back into like this corporate.

It's very difficult for Tom to just be the Tom that can like shoot the shit with Julian Edelman when the cameras are off, because clearly there's a different guy. And sometimes, like my YouTube clip, will feed will throw me something like John Madden or even like when you see John Gruden doing these clips now for barstool, but the same with Monday Night. He was like that when he was Thraders, like he just that's just him. John Gruden is just or I mean, John Madden was just John Madden. There's such a joy to Chris Collinsworth when he's calling a game. Tony Romo has actually kind of grown on me. I used to think he was cheesy, but it's like, that's just kind of him. I think Brady goes back into like this corporate.

Mode, like bro, just be one of the dudes. We're just trying to hang out with you.

Mode, like bro, just be one of the dudes. We're just trying to hang out with you.

And I think it's I don't crush him for misspeaking or forgetting something to me all the time part of speaking, but the thing that it's really difficult for him is just to be loose.

And I think it's I don't crush him for misspeaking or forgetting something to me all the time part of speaking, but the thing that it's really difficult for him is just to be loose.

He's just not loose. And I thought he was kind of getting it.

He's just not loose. And I thought he was kind of getting it.

I remember a game like middle of the year, but you watched him to day. I mean, today was a big game, Vikings Packers, awful slate. It was by a mile, the morning or the afternoon, the best game. Nothing was close. The anticipation. I mean, it had to be the highest rated game of the day. It was the national game, and it's just like, ugh, it's just and I about one of those people that are like Creig Olsen got screwed now this business, Tom Brady's worth a lot more to them from an advertising standpoint, from a famous standpoint, but like just from who's.

I remember a game like middle of the year, but you watched him to day. I mean, today was a big game, Vikings Packers, awful slate. It was by a mile, the morning or the afternoon, the best game. Nothing was close. The anticipation. I mean, it had to be the highest rated game of the day. It was the national game, and it's just like, ugh, it's just and I about one of those people that are like Creig Olsen got screwed now this business, Tom Brady's worth a lot more to them from an advertising standpoint, from a famous standpoint, but like just from who's.

Better at their job.

Better at their job.

Greg can just be a little more normal. And I think Tom, for whatever reason, struggles with clearly like his life is not normal. He's Tom Brady, right, he lives a much different lifestyle than even most like rich famous people.

Greg can just be a little more normal. And I think Tom, for whatever reason, struggles with clearly like his life is not normal. He's Tom Brady, right, he lives a much different lifestyle than even most like rich famous people.

But like he has the.

But like he has the.

Ability because he's proven it when the cameras are off in the locker room or on the field with the boys, he can be one of the guys because you watch like Julian Edelman, like he can just be himself.

Ability because he's proven it when the cameras are off in the locker room or on the field with the boys, he can be one of the guys because you watch like Julian Edelman, like he can just be himself.

Rober Grokowski can just be himself.

Rober Grokowski can just be himself.

I think Tom has a really hard time broadcasting this games just being himself. He actually said one of the most insightful things I think I've heard him say of all the games I've watched, the way that they approached in New England. When you had three timeouts under the two minute warning, you can elongate the drive. So basically you take a timeout somewhere between two minutes and one minute. You take another timeout somewhere between one minute and thirty seconds, and you leave yourself one time out under thirty seconds. I'm like, well, Tom, if you are gonna be kind of corporate y, at least give me some sweet nuggets of all the cool shit you guys used to do in New England.

I think Tom has a really hard time broadcasting this games just being himself. He actually said one of the most insightful things I think I've heard him say of all the games I've watched, the way that they approached in New England. When you had three timeouts under the two minute warning, you can elongate the drive. So basically you take a timeout somewhere between two minutes and one minute. You take another timeout somewhere between one minute and thirty seconds, and you leave yourself one time out under thirty seconds. I'm like, well, Tom, if you are gonna be kind of corporate y, at least give me some sweet nuggets of all the cool shit you guys used to do in New England.

But I don't know. It pains me to say it because.

But I don't know. It pains me to say it because.

Everyone likes him in the football world, like he's the ultimate football guy. Then he gets on television and he becomes like the corporate guy, and it's like, this is We've already seen the way society shifted heavily over the last six months. Authenticity sells. Just be yourself and it's tough. I mean it, and I understand it's he's thrown into the fire, but like, hey fuck, they gave you three hundred and fifty million dollars, right, and it does show you, like like I'm watching these games, whether Brady calls it, whether you call it, whether my mom calls it, Like, it's not determining whether we watch or not. So if I'm gonna watch it, I might as well be entertained.

Everyone likes him in the football world, like he's the ultimate football guy. Then he gets on television and he becomes like the corporate guy, and it's like, this is We've already seen the way society shifted heavily over the last six months. Authenticity sells. Just be yourself and it's tough. I mean it, and I understand it's he's thrown into the fire, but like, hey fuck, they gave you three hundred and fifty million dollars, right, and it does show you, like like I'm watching these games, whether Brady calls it, whether you call it, whether my mom calls it, Like, it's not determining whether we watch or not. So if I'm gonna watch it, I might as well be entertained.

It's just not really working.

It's just not really working.

I'm gonna end on this because I think this guy is gonna become more and more polarizing this entire offseason.

I'm gonna end on this because I think this guy is gonna become more and more polarizing this entire offseason.

Big fan, longtime listener.

Big fan, longtime listener.

I started to think that Caleb discourse is getting a little out of hand. We're not even a full year in and we're already making declarations that Jade Daniels and bow Nix are better players, but they all have comparable stats. I think when trying to make sense of this season, you need factor in everyone's college careers and their current situations. Jayden started fifty five games and has a former head coach as his OC.

I started to think that Caleb discourse is getting a little out of hand. We're not even a full year in and we're already making declarations that Jade Daniels and bow Nix are better players, but they all have comparable stats. I think when trying to make sense of this season, you need factor in everyone's college careers and their current situations. Jayden started fifty five games and has a former head coach as his OC.

Yeah, okay, yeah, you're right.

Yeah, okay, yeah, you're right.

Bo Nick started sixty one games and as freaking Sean Payton. Caleb started thirty seven games and had eberflus? Are we really surprised at the quarterback with the least amount of games started by a wide margin and the most chaotic coaching situation two head coaches three to OC's is having a bad season. I think that all the generational talent talk clouded everyone's judgment. Talent doesn't matter if you don't have the right coaching staff. Here's one problem for Caleb and Drake may is none of their snaps in any of the like tonight, Bo Nick or excuse me, Well, bow Knicks against Cincinnati, Michael and Michael Pennix and Jayden and Daniels tonight. Every snap they took tonight matter. Every part of that game mattered. They were literally like bo Nicks and those two guys playing to get into the playoffs. They're playing on prime time with playoff implications. Every fucking play of that game offensively and defense mattered. Caleb Williams and Drake May haven't played a snap that mattered in months. None of their shit means anything. So like when I'm watching these guys and I put Drake here too, is like we get so excited when they throw a touchdown down twenty It's like, what does that matter?

Bo Nick started sixty one games and as freaking Sean Payton. Caleb started thirty seven games and had eberflus? Are we really surprised at the quarterback with the least amount of games started by a wide margin and the most chaotic coaching situation two head coaches three to OC's is having a bad season. I think that all the generational talent talk clouded everyone's judgment. Talent doesn't matter if you don't have the right coaching staff. Here's one problem for Caleb and Drake may is none of their snaps in any of the like tonight, Bo Nick or excuse me, Well, bow Knicks against Cincinnati, Michael and Michael Pennix and Jayden and Daniels tonight. Every snap they took tonight matter. Every part of that game mattered. They were literally like bo Nicks and those two guys playing to get into the playoffs. They're playing on prime time with playoff implications. Every fucking play of that game offensively and defense mattered. Caleb Williams and Drake May haven't played a snap that mattered in months. None of their shit means anything. So like when I'm watching these guys and I put Drake here too, is like we get so excited when they throw a touchdown down twenty It's like, what does that matter?

It doesn't.

It doesn't.

It's not in the context of the game. The game's already out of hand. You're not gonna win the game. You can't win the game. And I think Caleb has thrown a lot of touchdowns an equivalent of garbage time. Now some of those are in the second or third quarter, but they're down twenty twenty five to nothing. So if you do a bunch of throw a bunch of touchdowns in the third quarter, and I bet if we broke it down he has over the last couple of months thrown a bunch of touchdowns in the second half where they're down big. None of those throws actually matter. And I'm not trying to diminish his talent. He's got a big time arm. He can but there is no disputing you watch tonight Pennix a couple times he held onto the ball too long as the game went on and got the ball out of his hands. Jayden sometimes hold onto the balls too long and then he realized, got to get the ball out of my hand. Caleb holds onto the ball forever. It's like, this is not You're not playing Arizona, and I get it as coaching sucks, but eventually, like you're looking down the gun barrel, people are chasing you, and guys are running down the seam and running outs and slants. You either got to get rid of the ball or you're gonna get sacked. And the guy holds onto the ball like if he gets rid of it, he's gonna go bankrupt or something.

It's not in the context of the game. The game's already out of hand. You're not gonna win the game. You can't win the game. And I think Caleb has thrown a lot of touchdowns an equivalent of garbage time. Now some of those are in the second or third quarter, but they're down twenty twenty five to nothing. So if you do a bunch of throw a bunch of touchdowns in the third quarter, and I bet if we broke it down he has over the last couple of months thrown a bunch of touchdowns in the second half where they're down big. None of those throws actually matter. And I'm not trying to diminish his talent. He's got a big time arm. He can but there is no disputing you watch tonight Pennix a couple times he held onto the ball too long as the game went on and got the ball out of his hands. Jayden sometimes hold onto the balls too long and then he realized, got to get the ball out of my hand. Caleb holds onto the ball forever. It's like, this is not You're not playing Arizona, and I get it as coaching sucks, but eventually, like you're looking down the gun barrel, people are chasing you, and guys are running down the seam and running outs and slants. You either got to get rid of the ball or you're gonna get sacked. And the guy holds onto the ball like if he gets rid of it, he's gonna go bankrupt or something.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

It is a glaring, glaring deficiency. And if that is something you can coach out, I would say historically, I think it's easier to change accuracy than it is like guys that just kind of freeze up. And if you go back to USC, he kind of played like that as well, but he could pull plays out of his ass. I would say it's kind of concerning. His talent is not concerning that characteristic. Some coach would say it's not something.