John opens the podcast talking about George Kittle's new contract and how this was by far the right move for the 49ers and how when you have a player like Kittle, you do everything you need to do to hang on to guys like him.
Next, John talks about the top QB's in the league and how a majority of them were drafted in the first round and guys like Dak, and Purdy are outliers.
Later, he talks about drafting players that have character red flags.
Finally, it's the return of Go Low and John dives into the biggest stories in the world of golf and he also answers your questions.
4:45 - George Kittle's new contract
10:24 - Rookie QB class
15:37 - Drafting character red flags
32:30 - Go Low
41:18 - Colin fired his caddie
48:33 - Mailbag
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John Middlecoff three and out podcast with a little go Lo. We're gonna split this podcast into two. We're gonna do the opening part of the podcast. I've already recorded the podcast. I'm just recording the intro right now. But the first part of the podcast is football and it's actually the only place you can get it because the video I don't know what I did. I screwed something up, but it does not exist, so it's not even on YouTube. So this is podcast only. Second half of the podcast, we're gonna do a little go low talk, a little golf, take some of your guys' Instagram questions at golo pod for the podcast, so we'll do some of that on the back end.
So it'll be football the first half.
Golf from Scottish fler to Colin Moore, Cowa, firing US caddy and hiring a new one to just Masters, basically questions about Bryce and some different stuff at the end.
So that'll be the game plan today.
A little draft recap, George Kittle got a big contract extension and other than that, not much else to say.
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No matter where you listen three and out, Spotify, Apple, you name it, as well as the YouTube page. Everything is up there except the beginning of this podcast because I'm an idiot for the show. But before we dive in any football, you know, I gotta tell you about my friends, my partners in the official ticketing app of this podcast. The NBA Playoffs. They have been fantastic. I mean that Warriors game on it would have been Monday night felt like a UFC match meets basketball. If you ever get a chance to watch Steph Curry live, I highly recommended. He is the ultimate showman. So if you want to go to one of these games, NHL Playoffs in full swing. We have baseball concert season. I saw a stat today on Instagram that more booze was bought on day one of stagecoach which is the country music version of Coachilla, than both weekends of Coachilla. It's like, well, yeah, I mean, if you want to go to one of these concerts, Obviously, different concerts have different vibes. We got you covered any event, any athletic event, any concert, comedy shows as well, So if you want to go get out of the house, do it so and do it with my friends at game time. So take the guest work out of buying tickets with game time. Download the game Time app, create an account and use the code John for twenty dollars off your first purchase terms of play again, created an account, redeemed the code John for twenty dollars off. Down the Game Time app to day last minute takets, lows prices guaranteed. Okay, let's let's start with George Kittle. And you know there are a couple positions right now in the NFL. When you have a star player, it's really easy to do business with them. Like the Eagles gave Saquon bark a contract extension after giving him a big contract last year, and they didn't even have to think long and hard about it. Why because he plays running back and ultimately it doesn't cost that much guaranteed money. George Kittle, who if he stays healthy a couple more years, is gonna be one of the better players I don't know in the last thirty forty years for the forty nine ers, and clearly they have had a lot of Hall of Fame, high end Pro Bowl level players. But when they extended Trent Williams last year and they got into a contract hold out staring contest. A couple of years ago, nick Bosa held out. They've had Ayuk hold out And I wouldn't put Ayuk on the level of Trent and Nick Bosa. But these contracts are very complicated. You know, Trent Williams at thirty five years old wanted like sixty five million dollars guaranteed. Brandon Ayuk was catching seventy five balls a year and got seventy five million dollars guaranteed. Nick Bosa at the time got like one hundred and twenty million million dollars guaranteed. That these contracts are enormous. Yet when you play tight end, it's like, here's forty million dollars guaranteed. You're a six time Pro bowler, multiple time All Pro. Here you go, It's like, yeah, sign on the dotted line and you get such a discount. And the reality is with guys like George Kittle, and I would say this iteration of the forty nine ers in twenty twenty five for the next couple of years, the heartbeat of the team when everyone's healthy is George Kittle, and is Fred Warner.
And those are the type guys.
That winning teams build their team around one they do everything well, like George Kittle is a throwback at the position, and listen, I have nothing against these tight ends that do not block, that are dominant receivers. That's their skill set, and good teams utilize players positive attributes. Most guys, even if they try to block, cannot why most people can't even slow down Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt these type guys. But George is a great blocker, and he's also a dominant player with the ball in his hands, and there's a contact level to the way in which he plays, which honestly sometimes is like George just go out of bounds, but he will turn down going out of bounds to look up field to try to take out three guys, and that sets the tone for the team. And there's a positive energy in which he brings. I've seen him practice for six seven years. Obviously he's one of the frontmen in terms of giving press conferences, and there's just an overall positive energy that the guy brings to your team. And I think Rob Gronkowski did this for a long period of time, and I think he's the closest version of that in terms of being a total package. You know, Travis is a different type player, right, dominant receiver, doesn't bring much as a blocker, but just in terms of positive energy and someone that the Chiefs have relied on to be a heartbeat of the squad, like it's kind of important, and the type player that ever everyone in the organization looks up to, the way he practices, the way he works, how serious he takes football.
How competitive he is.
And here's the thing, like his competitiveness, like a lot of elite players in the NFL is unreal on Sunday, but being a great player in the NFL is about Monday through Saturday. How hard you work, how serious you take your preparation, how serious you take your recovery. And that's what these teams don't hesitate to break off. And it's much easier a lot like Saquan when the numbers are minuscule compared to some of these other positions, which you can't convince me that. Obviously, justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase one hundred percent totally understand their value is bigger than George Kittle. But George Kittle will make way less guaranteed money than Brandon Ayuk. I don't get it. And you can tell me, well, that's the market, that's the position. Well, they both play on the same team, and one guy is a better player, and he was a better player even in Brandon.
I Yuke's breakout year.
So I feel for these guys like Fred Warner and George Kittle that see players who are good players get all this money and you go, but I'm better And if all positions were equal, this would not be a fair fight. So the forty nine ers now listen, there's risk that comes with this. He's an older player. He's been banged up over the course of his career. Even though he's been really durable these last several years. The way in which he plays is conducive to taking a lot of shots and taking a lot of physical punishments. Now like this is the pros and one thing Kyle does a really good job of is manage his elite players in practice. I mean, he's not asking George to lay it all on the line in the middle of August. But they're very dependent on this guy in his career. I would say change back dramatically for the better. Once Perdy got installed and has been a big reason obviously over the course of Kyle Shanan's career for the forty nine ers offensive dominance, not just in the run game where he's an elite blocker and basically like a six offensive lineman, but his just game changing plays in the past game. And I'm just as a fan of football, even if I wasn't you know form, you know, from northern California and rooted and watched the Niners as closely as I have my entire life. George Kittle's everything that I love about football. Uh, speaking about, you know, quarterback play, I'm guilty of this, and especially during the draft, it's easy to become enthralled with the quarterbacks because guys get drafted in the sixth and seventh round and they're some of the most famous guys in the draft. Will Howard was just the starting quarterback for the team that won the national championship. Riley Leonard was just the starting quarterback for freaking Notre Dame that rattled off some of the biggest wins I would say of this century. In the program, and those guys go late in the draft, so we talk so much about obviously, those guys, at least we acknowledge like you get drafted in the six or seventh round, you're starting as a backup.
But sometimes we talk about guys.
After the first round is like this guy might be.
His starter, this guy, keep an eye on this guy.
Well, I started looking around the league because I'm guilty of it too. It's like, well, Jaln Milroe, if his accuracy improves a little bit, you know, Mike McDonald, they only got you know, Sam Donald, they get out after a year. He's been around Lamar Jackson. I'm not comparing him to Lamar Jackson because Lamar is obviously a better thrower, even at the same point in time in their career.
But it's like, clearly, you draft this guy high, you like him.
Look around the NFL, most guys like because I think Perty has really changed the conversation. It's like you found him in the seventh round.
He's an all time outlier.
The reason we talk about Tom Brady pickne forever is because that's never happening again, Like that's not normal. Look at his direct rival was the number.
One overall pick.
Look at some of his peers also during the time in which he played Aaron Rodgers first round pick Ben Roethlisberger first round pick, Philip Rivers first round pick. They had some wars with Baltimore and Joe Flacco first round pick toward the end of his career, Patrick Mahomes first round pick. And then I just looked in the NFL, like look at the AFC. Every single quarterback that made the playoffs last year first round pick, most of them really high pick. Josh Allen top ten pick, Patrick Mahomes top fifteen pick, obviously, CJ. Stroud, Justin Herbert. I mean, these guys were top picks. Bo Nicks last year fell in the draft and wod he go twelfth? So and now you look, they've added cam Ward. The New England Patriots have a really high pick, the Jags have a really high pick. Even some of these teams that have new quarterbacks, like the New York Jets, where did Justin Fields get drafted? Tua first round pick whoever ends up starting for the Colts. Both guys were top six picks. It's pretty insane that the Bengals missed the playoffs given how good their offense was. Joe Burrow was the number one overall pick. But we know this, Like the AFC's quarterback centric led by the elites. Well, what about the the NFC, because it's like Brock Purty late late seventh rounder, last pick of the draft, Jalen Hurts, second rounder. He wally pipped Carson Wentz, who was a first round pick. And I would say that's pretty crazy story about Jalen Hurts because you look at the rest of the guys in which he's competing against. I think sometimes Jared Goff, the way we discuss him, it's like Cousins or dak Jared Goff was the number one overall pick. Stafford Well, they were traded for each other obviously, also the number one overall pick. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Baker Mayfield the number one overall pick. The Minnesota Vikings, who last year started Sam Darnold and he had a great year, was the number three overall pick. This year they're going to transition to JJ McCarthy their first round pick.
Oh yeah.
The Green Bay Packers are led by Jordan Love, first round pick and he was a late first round pick. The Commanders, who's everyone's buying stock on number two overall pick. My point is I'm not gonna go team by team. Most of these guys Michael Pennix, Bryce Young, Caleb Williams. Like what Dak Prescott and specifically Brock Purty are is their outliers if you want to find your quarterback. And this is why the Browns made the trade, this is why the Rams traded back. You know, if you're going to get a franchise quarterback, ninety percent of the time he's going to come in the first round. Because if you look around the league, the teams that make the playoffs and even the teams that don't with the young guys, most of these guys are first round picks. If you are forced to start a third, four to fifth rounder, typically it doesn't go well. Typically you are looking to transition really, really quick. So it's exciting when these guys get drafted. Dylan Gabriel in the third, Jalen Milroe in the third, Tyler Shuck who's thirty seven years old in the second round pick. Guess what, most of these guys are not going to be starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
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A couple other quick things is One huge advantage the good teams have is their ability to feel comfortable taking character red flags, and we talked about it yesterday on the Mailbag. Character red flags come in a lot of different shapes and sizes. It's easy when a guy like Baker may Field gets arrested in Fayeteville, Arkansas, it's like whoa or a guy gets a DUI right before the draft, Or you've had issues with women that are tangible, concrete, like they have had an incident, and then there are just issues that are kind of hard to quantify. A lot of teams are hesitant to just leak information because it feels like they're shitting on a guy. But it's like, yeah, we just it hasn't been a smooth transition during this guy's time in the program.
For a couple of years.
Not an awful guy, but not the best guy, not reliable. We got to be on him to study. And you always ask yourself, and this is what scouting departments do.
Is it just maturity? Is it just he's young. I I'm sure, like many.
Of you, needed to grow up a lot at eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one years old.
And I, like many of you, was not.
A future first, second, or third round pick in the NFL draft. So I completely understand how some of these guys it's a major question mark. And the thing is you never know. Sometimes you get a guy like this is one of my favorite stories since I've been.
Doing this is the Honey Badger. Now.
I think we look at weed a lot different now than we did ten years ago. When I was in high school, you had to go behind the burger king. It was actually the McDonald's. The burger king there. It was in the shopping center. The McDonald's like backed up to this car dealership and this empty dirt lot. It's usually where you'd meet the weed dealer. Now they arrive to your front door and you give them a credit card any.
Door dash it. So times have changed.
But the honey Badger got kicked out of LSU for the synthetic weed, and most people had him as a major red flag. It's why he was one of the best players in college football, if not the top two or three program at the time and ends up going in the third round. And since then he's been a team captain everywhere he's been as Bruce Arians and Patrick Peterson once said, he's the heartbeat of our team. That's when he was young. Then he went to the Texans, he went to the Chiefs. I remember I had a buddy with the Chiefs.
He's like, he's my favorite player on the team. This is when they had Patrick Mahomes. They fucking love the guy.
So you never know, and we have a lot of stories that go the opposite way. You know, something weird happened and then things stay weird. So you never know how human beings are going to mature. But a lot of teams, if they have a young squad, if they have an impressionable squad, they're hesitant to bring those guys in the locker room. It's a huge advantage for good teams like the Ravens. They can take on problems because they are equipped with the guys they already have in the locker room. Same with the chiefs Andy Reid can take a guy. The two guys he drafted made some teams uncomfortable. He doesn't hesitate, why because what are you gonna do? Act like an idiot. It's like, well, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, Creed Humphrey, I mean Kolowskis McDuffie, Like, they got a bunch of high level dudes who have rings. So you're just gonna like show up late. It's not gonna fly. It's why so many teams and Jalen Carter was plummeting down the draft board. He was the best player in the draft. No one even disputed that. You could argue he's been the best most talented player in a draft the last three years non quarterback. I actually might not even be close. He would have been obviously. I think cam Ward goes this year no matter what, because how desperate the Titans were for a quarterback. But he would have been the easiest number two pick in recent memory if the off the field. But there was an issue where someone dies in a car. There are already other issues that there's like make teams uncomfortable.
The Eagles, who.
Were equipped with Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox, Jason Kelce who literally were just gonna be around him every day at practice because O line, D line, and obviously the D line when they spend time together. It was like, I think we're gonna be Okay. It's a risk, but it's a risk worth taking. And we've equipped our team with a bunch of high level cats. And it's actually, like we talked about Fred Warner and Kittle, because of the positions they play, in Saquon Barkley, they don't cost nearly as much as like second tier wide receivers or second tier I mean the Chiefs, who I like the player, but signed the forty nine ers backup tackle and gave him fifteen million dollars a year. That's the going rate. Like, that's just what it costs, you know, if you just want like an.
Average wide receiver, like I.
Think what the Jags give Diami Brown ten million dollars, I mean, would google his production over the course of his career. So you just like the cost of certain positions are just extremely expensive.
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Furniture right now, the shittiest stuff, I mean, and we bought originally some bad stuff. It's completely broken down. Was not cheap. You want decent stuff, You're like, it's gonna cut. It's got how much for a chair, how much for an outdoor couch?
It blows your mind. But that's if you want it. That's what it costs. If you want a.
Pass rusher in the open market, you gotta give Milton Williams, who who played I think fifty percent of the snaps again, let me repeat fifty percent of this next to the best young defensive tackle in the NFL.
It got twenty six million dollars a year.
I mean, even the Panthers who wanted them badly were like, yeah, we're out.
That's kind of crazy. And the Patriots knew it. They just had to overpay again him.
And right now, some of the best team's big advantages. They can take some swings on character because they're equipped for it, and a lot of the bad teams have to pass on it. And it's why like when some of the bad teams, you know, I think people were uncomfortable with the Tennessee pass rusher peers, not like super bad guy, but just some things that in the scouting community just you know, raise alarms, right, and I think in that situation, like, are the Atlanta Falcons equipped to handle that a team full of young cats who have never won anything, I'd say no. And last, but not least, I'm fascinated by this is college football. I mean, last year Michigan had thirteen players drafted, and then they had a god awful season this year relative to their standard because their quarterback play might as well have had me playing. Still had what three guys go in the top fifteen. I mean, their talent that Harbaughs assembled was eye opening. And then Ohio State goes on the run. They have fourteen players drafted that lead the country. Their entire front seven essentially was drafted, their entire defensive line. You know, their star receiver who's not even the best receiver on the team, and probably the third receiver on the team because sophomore who's gonna be I forget his name, but he will be drafted next year, more likely in the first round. And obviously Jeremiah Smith. And they had a left tackle who's injured get drafted in the first round. On top of multiple running backs. And this is the thing, and we're going to argue about this till we're blue in the face. But we want to see the most talented teams in the playoffs because as we've seen over the course of the Final four and now as we've morphed into this, if you don't have a lot of NFL talent, you don't have a shot. I mean, what we saw with SMU last year, like we don't want to see anymore. And you look, Ohio State led the country in draft picks. Georgia was second, Texas was third, Oregon was fourth, and the separation for college football there always has been.
But it's like you.
Never truly know, and listen, it's football. In a one game scenario. Anything can happen, and that does happen during the season, right especially like Week two, Week three, you never know a big upset can happen. I do think it's going to be much more difficult in the first round of the playoffs. Usually get two or three weeks off, the best team has the home playoff game, and you're just at a.
Huge, huge disadvantage.
So listen, I'm an Ohio State hater, not because I don't think the program is elite, Not because I don't think that program isn't setting the bar in terms of NFL talent.
I just need someone to root against, you know.
And I was a Jim Harbaugh guy. He hated Ryan Day. Not the biggest chipcare and I.
Just rooted against him.
But I do appreciate and have to acknowledge how well run they are and they listen. The one thing Ryan Day has done since the moment, and this is where we have seen other guys fall off a cliff. We saw it with Helfridge and chip Kelly. Chip Kelly took it from Bellotti and he took it the next step up at Oregon, and then chip Kelly leaves. They hire Health Fridge, and for a couple of years because they were rolling, they stayed good and then over the course of a couple more fell apart. And you see it with Dan Lanning, like Mario, not a great coach, he could recruit. Landing gets there a better coach, but he maintains the recruiting and that program is going to be consistently in the top two or three moving forward, right, And obviously Kirby smart and what Jim harbaughd accomplished and Ryan Day, Sark has blown me away. You know the difference between Sark and Ryan Day is Ryan Day took over a program that was rolling once you know, Urban tapped out with the hard issues after his wide receiver coach was doing some weird shit. Stark took over a program three or four years ago that was a joke, like they did not have much talent, they were not getting guys drafted. Now, he's always been a good recruiter, but the game change when nil came into play. And obviously Texas has the money, but they are going to be right there with Ohio State and Oregon as a major factor because of their checkbook and obviously his ability to impact the quarterback. But when I see these four teams, I do think that Michigan TBD TBD because you know, filling the shoes of Jim Harbaugh. Like is he more likely to be Ryan Day and keep it rolling or is he more likely to be Mark Helfrich. I would say that's a coin flip right now. And I know they bought the quarterback, but I thought Dylan Riola I was sold and maybe.
I bought it a little bit. It was like next Patrick Mahomes and I watched him.
Plays like is he even that good? It's one thing with these transfer portal quarterbacks. It's another thing with eighteen year old kids. That's like, this guy's gonna be like Patrick Mahomes meets Josh Allen and then you're watching him, it's like, why are they losing to Iowa right now?
This kid looks.
Awful, So you never know, and I just think get ready for the You know, the college football Playoff was supposed to bring in some new variables, almost like the NCAA Tournament. Well, what do we see out of the NCUBA tournament. Top four seeds were in the final four, and I think we're gonna consistently get that in the college football Playoff moving forward, because the talent discrepancy is only going to widen. The NBA eighty two game grind is done, and now the real fun begins. The NBA Playoffs are here and it's time for the high stakes drama, clutch moments, and jaw dropping plays.
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Okay, we haven't done it in a couple of weeks because of.
The draft, but I did want to do a little some thoughts on golf.
We have a golo podcast.
Usually we just I mean during the majors, we just do it solo. But I've kind of been combining it with the football stuff. So if you're listening on the audio version, this will be the second half of the podcast.
Obviously, if you're watching.
This, this will just be talking about golf for a little bit, because you know, there's a big golf tournament this week with Scotti Scheffler in it, and I do think there's some pressure to win. We had a big caddy news today. You know, Max Homer had broken up with Joe Griner within the last month, and then he goes on the bag two weeks ago for JT at RBC and wins and then today there was an announcement that he's got a new bag. And then we try to do this whenever we do a go lo at go lo pod. Because we do the Instagram mail bag for football, I like to include one for golf as well, but I like to separate it. So at golopod. At golopod is the Instagram. If you have any golf questions, we will bang out a bunch today. So just firing those dms. They're wide open and fire me any question, any thoughts that you have on your game, on the pro game, on just shit anything, So firing there. I did want to start with this, the CJ Cup, the Byron Nelson at TPC Craig ranch Is this week. I mean, these guys, it's one of those tournaments that, like me and you would be like the Putt putt version. They're shooting anywhere between twenty two and twenty six under. A couple of years ago, I think Jason Day won it twenty three under. So these guys, these guys are good at golf, and if the course is not that hard, they will annihilate it. Hell you give them a hard course and the conditions aren't up I would say fifteen under on a given week feels minimum. I do think there is some pressure with how well Rory season is going. And he's won three times obviously including the Masters, and no one's really played better golf this year than Rory McElroy when you look at after the Masters last year, there was a ton of momentum for Scotti coming in to the PGA Championship and then he got arrested on Friday, and still he managed to shoot I think what sixty seven or was that Thursday? It was either Thursday. I think it was Friday because he was playing the morning round on Friday when it was raining. But last year he had this magical season. But I do think the Majors were a little underwhelming when you factor he won the Masters again, He's probably gonna win the Masters like three or four times in his life. I mean, he doesn't even play that well in the Masters.
He top tens.
So I mean this year, at one point you look up, it's like, could Scotty get.
Into the playoff?
Like where does scottis chefer coming from? So it's about playing well in the PGA, in the US Open and the British which he feels like the type player that should win four or five majors and win several of the majors, right, And I don't love betting guys that are super high favorites. It's why I got cold feet with Rory at the Masters, and I'm kicking myself. I thought about going all in, but it's like you just you get boned pretty quick at plus six fifty odds.
And then you know he won it and you're.
Like, gosh, well, I regret that one Scottish chef for going in this weekend is plus two to eighty, which is insane. Gambling was I don't know where Phil was making his golf bets in the early two thousands, but it would have been much more difficult. You had to know the right people like Billy Walters to get involved in those markets. Obviously. Now it's with our friends at DraftKings. It's very very easy, and we have data now over the last three or four years.
Like, you know, you are.
A really good player if you're ten to one to win a golf tournament and you're playing against one hundred.
And fifty other guys.
Scotti Scheffler is currently plus two to eighty. I mean that's freaking insane.
And I kind of like it.
He hasn't. He didn't play this event last year. Now, part of it was he won the Masters and then he won the RBC the next week, so he took a couple weeks off before the PGA. I do wonder if he feels desperate. It's the wrong word, but just in need of like a mojo victory. You look at the strength of field.
In this tournament. It ain't great.
I mean, Jordan Spieth is the second favorite. I think at eighteen to one. You got guys like Sun JM. Tell me the last time Sun JM won a golf tournament and tell me what that tournament was. You'd be hard pressed to figure that out one out.
So like, this is not.
Xander and you know the normal and Rory and the normal cast of characters. The JT's their battle in this week. I do think Scotty Scheffler wins. He played it two years ago. He finished fifth, but he was only three shots off the lead when Jason Day wanted at twenty three under.
He finished at twenty.
I am going to have exposure on Scotti Scheffler to win it, probably an uncomfortable amount of money, because that's what you have to bet to.
Uh.
You know, I'm approaching like a football game, what I would bet if I liked the team, just straight up against another. That's how I viewed Scotti Scheffler this weekend. Against the field. I think he wins plus two eighty again bold moving golf, but I think that's the play. You know, A couple of weeks ago, we had been on Justin Thomas for this year. He had been playing really, really good golf. The only reason I wasn't more all over him when it came to the Masters because I'd been burned by him before. So it was one of those where it's like I was a big believer in Justin Thomas. He had I think he had three top ten finishes going into the Masters, but I'd seen that song and dance and to me, like he might win it one day. I will not be on that. It just feels like one of those course fits that is just not for him. But like the way he was playing, it's like, this guy's.
Gonna win a golf tournament. Now. Did I think he was gonna win with the RBC? I don't know.
That tournament can be weird obviously was a loaded field beside Rory, and you know, it turned out to be basically a match play event down the stretch between him and Andrew Novak, who I guess is pretty online and a lot of people like him and seems like a really really good player. But JT wins an extra holes, hits a long putt. As he told Joe Griner when he was walking up, you know, I've never really hit a long walk off putt to win a golf tournament. And he just won his sixteenth PGA event, which is pretty insane. I mean he's already multiple majors, fifteen plus wins. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer for his career. End of today kind of when you look at the big picture, it's not like he's forty two years old, he's thirty two. If he could get to twenty plus wins and win another major, like pretty historic stuff by Justin Thomas, really cool moment and a guy who now I don't think there was that much question before the RBC.
I mean one Locke ryder Cup.
I think he was one of the more polarizing guys two years ago, and rightfully so. The way that all went down, now it's like, you want Justin Thomas on this team. I think the only question mark is like what about his boy? What about his running mate? Like is jordan' spe still good? Justin Thomas definitely is. But the big news that weekend was his caddie was out because he had a back injury, and he wins with Joe Griner, Max homes old guy, Scott Stale guy, and after the event, because I thought, well, I don't know the relationship between JT and his current caddie, but anytime you win for the first time in years, it's a really big deal. Actually in the fashion which he won it, and as he hits the putt in South Carolina, you see Grinder, you know, kind of behind him throw the pin.
It was a sweet moment.
It was cool, and I just assume, like I just bet that he goes with this guy moving forward.
Wouldn't blame him.
And then he announced its like no, like, my guy's healthy, he'll be back, and Grinder's not gonna be my full time caddy. And then today, you know, sometimes when I'm driving around, I'm a big serious XM guy. Love my Mad Dog Radio, like my Channel eighty five, which a lot of times, like Pro Football Talk eighty six. Sometimes just NBA Radio, but it's got some old heads to just talk a bunch of shit PGA Radio, and I listened to it a lot, especially when Sleeves and Colt Nohost. I think my time is ten to noon, maybe it's nine to eleven. I don't know the exact time, but I feel like I'm in the car a lot when those guys are on. And Colt came out and said, like, I got some crazy breaking news, and Drew was like what he was like, Colin Morrikawa has fired as caddy and he is going to hire Joe Grinder full time. Now, you know, Max Holmer and Colin Morrikawa to cal Bears, they are different ages. They they didn't play together, but two years ago, once Dustin left for Live, they became a combination in the team events, right, So they played together in the President's Cup, so Marikawa who clearly just has a relationship because they played together, or I mean they went to the same college, so that just kind of bonds you, I don't care who you are. Then they started playing together in these team events, and obviously Max for a period of time is one of the better players right there with Colin. They just know each other pretty well. And when you see this, it's.
Like, I get it.
Sometimes in business you got to be pretty cold blooded. And I understand Colin hasn't won in a couple of years, but he has been really good and he has been making a ton of money. And the success that he had with with JJ as current caddy, well, I guess no longer was pretty unreal. I mean, they won a couple of majors together. They have made so much freaking money. And I would imagine more information on this eventually leaks or comes out, but whenever I have, whenever you see a headline of like they have decided to part ways, that feels like when the interviewer asked Belichick, it's like, you know, Robert Kraft said you were fired, and Belichick was like, I wasn't fired.
I quit.
It was mutual, Like no, no, Bill, you were fired. They paid you to go away, which is a badge.
Of honor in society.
You were paid twenty million dollars not to work, aka the American dream. But you don't quit or leave calling more cows back.
So it was clear.
You know, Marikawa, who's been in the news a little this year, like fighting the media and refusing to talk.
I mean, this is.
Business, so I don't listen. You gotta make only you know truly that relationship. But I think most people would say if you, unless you have the inside knowledge, would be like, this is a pretty cold blooded move, even if you could argue like Joe Grinder probably one of the better caddies you know on the PGA tour and a guy that most people thought two weeks ago, like JT just hire him full time. So like from a in a vacuum, not that crazy you would want Joe Grinder on your back, but when you factor in like how much success those two guys have had.
Pretty nuts.
But I guess when you're in the caddy world that's kind of the uh. You know, you're at the whim of the player and if he ever has an issue with you, you know, you think about wherever you work and whatever you do for a living, how you know you just careful the way you treat and your reaction to whoever your you know, superior is the guy that owns the company, whoever hired you. I can't even imagine the you know, the superiority that the player holds over the caddy. Even if you become really really good friends, and obviously we.
Have some of those. We had that with Max and Joe. I think you have that with Joel, Damon and Gino. Uh.
But at the end of the day, like you know, Stevie Williams, I'm pretty sure it was Tiger's best man in his wedding, and Stevie was like, after Tiger took that seven iron to the face, like he fired me. You know, it's bones and Phil had a pretty ugly public breakup. I mean, these things happen in this sport, and it's pretty crazy, especially now with how much money is on the line for the player. Let's get some questions at golopod. At golopod is the Instagram here we go. Not a paid sponsor, just a Bryson fan. He's tearing up this course right now. First time really tuning in. This was when did this happen?
This was this week?
The broadcast is really solid, no commercial shotguns, start with virtual virtually no interruptions, just major winner to major winner with Ferrety commentating all to say this this thing is a lot better watch than I thought. Give it a try side by side with the website. I've watched it, like just in terms of if a guy's playing well, it can be enjoyable to just watch a high level player play golf, right, whether it's Jaukee Neeman, whether it's Bryce and d Chambeau, whether it's Phil whoever DJ when he first got there, Rom, they're good at golf, playing golf on television, like it's cool to watch. My issue with it, and the same thing for the PGA Tour. The reason I watched the PGA Tour is because, like there are real stakes, like winning a tournament gets you into the majors. Winning a tournament if you were Andrew Novak and you beat Justin Thomas two weeks ago in the RBC, has real implications.
Jaukee Neeman wins again, what does that mean?
I just my issue with this, Like why have I been glued to the NBA playoffs because there's a lot on the line, there's a history. But you know, like if the Lakers and Lebron and Luca lose in the first round, we understand what that means. When you win on LIV, I just think it means nothing.
That's my issue.
The outcome, Yes, them playing individual golf like if Ron plays a hole and he's on, it will look incredible. I think I saw a clip online he drew.
He he drove a hole. It was four hundred yards.
Like he's he's unreal, like he is when he's on, he's I'm sure still one of the best players in the world. But like whether he wins at Live or finishes sixth or third or tenth, it doesn't matter. Like they're just playing for a lot of money, which is cool, But like I could get my buddies and convince someone to play for a couple hundred dollars a hole or a thousand dollars. I could find someone in Scottsdale that would play me a thousand dollars a hole. I mean, it's just that's essentially what they're doing at a really, really high level for millions of dollars. We're in the PGA Tour like they're a real Like if Andrew Novak wins that tournament, like he's into all the majors, is it just me? Or is the US Ryder Cup headed for trouble. I realize it's early, but I look at the probable teams this year and I don't see how we can match up with the europe The only advantage that I can find is that we play at home.
To me, their lineup is.
Much better at the top and much deeper. They have Rory Hovelin, who's playing better Ludwig and fill out with other players like Shane Lowry, Rose Hatton, Rom Fleetwood. To me, that's going to destroy any team that we put out. I would say that for the first time in a long time, it feels like this is going to be really really difficult at home because if Rory maintains this play all year long, if Rom can just find and listen to live things out the window, these guys are going to be on the team. I can find any form, you know, listen, if Sergio has.
A good year, like he will be in the mix.
Like you said, I mean, Justin Rose has played in a million of these eleet Wood has just made to play in these type events.
Yeah, they're team stacked that there is no.
Arguing that their team is really freaking good, and our team at the top is also really good. Xander healthy, he should be fine, obviously, Scotty, you know, Justin Thomas, Colin, Mori Kawa. But like it's not quite the same of like, I think Bryson's gotta be on the team, which you know, last time it was Koepka. This year is gonna be Bryson, which is the right move. But where it gets difficult, it's like, who's Bryson playing with that? That's where it gets complicated. Where a lot of these guys pretty seamless transition. You know, historically it was like Marikawa just played.
With Dustin Johnson and it went really well.
Right, Justin Thomas played with Jordan Speith and it went really well. Was Jordan Spith gonna be on this team? To me, the coolest part about the Ryder Cup is the Kegan's the captain, so and you know how serious he's gonna take it, but he's gonna he's got a big challenge. I saw the President's Cup captains were named today, Jeff Ogilvie and Snedeker. I see, I've wanted to introduce myself. I've seen Oglevy at the gym a million times. Looks like a golfer, you know, it is like fifties tall, skinny, looks like he just go out and sho like sixty seven, always doing stretches. One takeaway from the Masters, I had was how popular Rory actually is between the people pulling for him on the grounds and the amount of congratulations he received from non golf athletes and celebrities. I have buddies I didn't even know falled golf reposting stuff about Rory. People keep saying Bryson is so popular, which he obviously is, but I don't think it's even close to Rory. Wonder if you felt the same way watching well, the advantage Like I've seen this.
Right, the NBA is back.
Look at the ratings. Well, yeah, Lebron James plays on the Lakers, the biggest brand, and their numbers are huge. If the Lakers are in the playoffs, and especially so when they got a star and now they got Luca, a lot of people are gonna watch. It's like you put the Yankees in the playoffs or the Dodgers. Everyone's watching, Well, who's the second most famous player? And honestly, it's like one A and one B. Steph freaking Curry. What do both have in common? Lebron James has been in my life. I'm forty years old, since I was a teenager. Me and him are the same exact age and same class in high school. Steph Curry has been in my life since I was in college and he was a Davison taking down Kansas. So part of becoming like stardom is longevity. We have a lot of guys, and I don't mean it like this. Some of the biggest songs of our lifetime I think would fall under one hit wonders and those.
Are a really big deal.
But the biggest bands and most famous musicians are ones that have countless hits. The Rolling Stones are the Rolling Stones because they have a big catalog and they've also been around for fifty years. Metallica a lot of big time songs also been around since the eighties. There are bands that are big right now, just like rap artists or country music stars that if you haven't been around as long, you're not gonna be as big as other people in your genre. That are Doctor dre and Garth Brooks. So Rory has been in people's sporting people's vernacular for fifteen plus years. And one thing I think we naturally love is when you fail. Part of and I think this helps Lamar and Josh Allen stardom going up against Patrick Mahomes is their inability to beat the guy like that adds to the story. That's all this stuff is is its reality television show. And as I've learned with Maria bravostars can make up to fifty grand an episode. If you have fifteen episodes of season, you do the math, you make a lot of money. There is nothing like professional athlete money. I was talking to a buddy, a cousin of mine who lives in Fresno. You know, Derek Carr and David Carr have both move back to Fresno. You know, Derek lived in Vegas. You know, Fresno has some really successful businessmen, people that have made a lot of money. People don't talk about Fresno, California like they do like San Francisco or Palo Alto or Los Angeles.
But there are some people that are really successful people there. But most of them.
Are business owners, farmers or other business owners.
There aren't many.
Like w two employees that have made two hundred plus million dollars in his life. That's what Derek Carr has made in his career. And at the end of this season he will love Eclipse like I think, like two hundred and thirty million dollars playing quarterback and for the majority of his career, He's never been a top.
Ten quarterback in the NFL. He's had a.
Couple of individual seasons, but on the aggregate he is not.
So the.
It's like this reality television show where there's all this money on the line and all these competitors and everyone chasing the money. It just makes it really fascinating. And that's what like when you're watching Rory, like his failures along with his successes. He has just been in the world of professional sports at a really really high level. I mean for almost twenty years. I mean he's I think he's thirty five years old. I mean he started winning big time tournaments at like twenty or twenty one years old. It's the thing with Tiger Woods, Like Tiger was so famous so fast, and when you do that, you Lebron James, Bryce Harper, Michael Jordan hit the game winning shot in the National Championship in college, so like when you do that, you become in the mix. I think he was a freshman too in nineteen eighty one or nineteen eighty two, corner on the baseline kicked it to Michael Boom. Nothing but net So you're just like the in the conversation if given the opportunity, would you rather play around with tiger woods at Pine Valley or play with a buddy at Augusta assuming content not able to be shot at each course. If no content's available, I don't even You just have to choose Augusta National because Pine Valley, which I hope keep my fingers crossed.
One day I'll be able to play. Who knows.
I wouldn't count on it, but it does feel attainable. I guess where it's like, Augusta been around a lot of successful people that love golf that have never sniffed getting on the course there, so to be able to say, I mean, that's just there aren't many better conversation starters than like I played Augusta. I played the Masters. Obviously you don't mean playing during the Masters. I know what you're saying. But you can have that conversation with anybody. Most people in my life that if they're not big golf people, they wouldn't even know what Pine Valley is. So I think that without hesitation Augusta. Now if you said I could film, because Augusta wouldn't let you film no matter what, but I could film the Tiger woods thing. Then listen, I'm a businessman. We got mouths to feed in this family, and I would say Tiger, but no cameras, no besides maybe like one still photo, it would be it would be Augusta for sure. Question, I'd probably have to choose my brother. We'd have to have a historic round of gambling on that on that day we done.
Me and him have done I think like fifty dollars a hole.
Maybe even when you do that, though, and if you're similar golfers, unless you do like carryovers, it's pretty easy to basically not lose that much. Question for the pod, I firmly believe now that Rory has completed the Grand Slam, he won a major for the first time in a decade and got the monkey off his back, that now he can go on a run, rattle off another major this year, win four or five more tournaments, and surpass Scotty as the world number one. Thoughts, you know, I think the world number one. Let's face it, the world rankings are kind of stupid now, you know. If the live guy's all gone, not really playing in sanctioned events, it's hard to kind of quantify it. You just kind of know, like who are the best players in the world, Scotty, Rory Bryson, you know Xander until the rib injury, you would have set him to But like that's the crew right now and you just know it when you see it. And like this year, right now, Rory McElroy is the best player. He's not the number one player in the world, but in twenty twenty five he's clearly the best player. That can change, but like that's a fact, and so I don't know if he can surpass them. How many tournaments you have to win? Like what if Scotty also wins a tournament or two, you know, he probably maintained that that spot. But to me, if Rory wins, I mean, if he were to win another major this year, even if he doesn't win another tournament and wins two elevated events in two majors, I think that would be better than the version of in assuming then he would win the FedEx Cup, though they have changed.
Kind of the format on that.
I refuse to like look too much into it at too much going on last week, But that thing's going to look a lot different this year, I think, or maybe it's for twenty twenty six, but yeah, I mean, I think Rory can swing back for sure. In fairness, like Scotty legitimately was the best player in the world last year. You know, I know Xander got hot in the two Majors, but on the totality, it wasn't really that close. What's going on with the Gala been following him over the last couple of years and really thought after last year he was primed for a breakout year and has really struggled. Any thoughts, I'm with you. As a gambler, I take him in some parlays and he's really fucked me. I mean, there's no way he's blown a couple I think like fifteen to twenty to one parlays that would have won me a couple grand over the course of the year because he has been bad.
I but you know, the way I.
Do this is I take a couple of screenshots so it's easy for me to so I kind of looked after I saw your question. He's never been a very accurate driver of the golf ball, so why when he almost won at TBC Scottsdale. Listen, I play there. I was actually gonna go out today and hit some balls, but you could.
Spray it around.
It's not I wouldn't call it exactly the you know, Hilton Head, You're like, you've got to be super accurate off the tea, and looking at some of the statistics, he's not accurate off the tea at all. And when you're not accurate off the tea, like you have problems. But like one thing that he used to be is like incredible.
Around the greens.
And I don't know, you know, I think sometimes in golf, a guy can look good and there's not as much pressure on him, and then we go he's gonna take the next step when it's really hard to do that. And I would imagine you start feeling that as a player, right you come on the scene, it's like, God, I'm pretty good. And listen, he's googled Thigala in college. I mean, this guy was a blue chipper, like a stud. So this the equivalent of Thigala in the NFL, Like he's a top ten pick. But you know, sometimes after you really settle down on the PGH, I do think it becomes difficult because then you've got expectations, people are looking at you.
You start playing some future groups. He's a fan favorite. He's very likable. You know people are pulling for you.
And I think the difficult part about golf, Like in football, if I'm struggling, like I could just be like I'm gonna go fucking hit someone hard. I'm just gonna go make a play, right.
And in golf you can't.
Like the harder you try, sometimes the worse you are. And again I'm guessing, but I'm just a fan of the guy and he's been awful. I think when you spray it around a little bit too, and this is like justin Thomas. I think one way to really validate like an awesome season is to truly be in the mix, either at the PGA, which he's obviously had a lot of success or the British I don't really like him at the US Open because he's not that accurate off the tea. So this year he's putted a lot different better, but like, I trust his iron game. If he's in the middle of the fairway, he's as good as anybody around the green. I mean, he's just a wizard with his wedges and if he's putting well, like he's a really good but off the t he's just not that accurate, and I think sometimes when you're a little guy and you're swinging out of your shoes, even with today's technology, you like the bal can fly all over the place. Like part of what, why is Ludvig not that inaccurate off the tea because it doesn't look like he's swinging that hard. I would say the same thing for DJ in the peak of his career, like he was really accurate off the tea. Well, it's like he's built like a Carson Palmer. He just I mean, he technically is swing hard relative to everyone else, but it does not look like he's trying that hard. Where when you watchusin Thomas and it's a five hundred yard part four, he like me or you, is swinging out of our shoes in the margin for error. I mean, why Tiger early on his career spray.
The ball over the place?
No one has ever swung his hard. Now the gall is taller, but he just it does feel like he sprays the ball a lot looking at the statistics.
Okay, last question.
Bryson is taking quite a bit of heat for his post round interview after the final round of the Masters in regards to the comments made about Rory not speaking to him.
The entire day.
Even Rich Eisen had a segment about it with Shipnuk where he blasted him a little bit. I think the whole thing is overblown. The guy had to talk to the media right after shooting seventy five in the final round of the Masters. I'm sure he was pissed about his performance and considering he was in the mix to start the day. The way I see it, nothing Bryson said implied the way he was upset about the fact that Rory didn't talk to him.
He just said that he didn't.
This is a nothing burger story. Do you have any thoughts on the situation. Well, I think I'm with you in you know, the one thing where more Cow isn't totally wrong is when you just get off the golf course usually, you know, especially the way Augusta does it, they have that interview. If you're not going in with Van Pelt, you just interview there right there on the grass. And that's where Bryson did his. Is you basically just walk off and you talk immediately. And it's one thing when you win and your daughter, your girlfriend, your mom, or it's a fucking party. When you shoot seventy five and you just go I just blew the masters, because that's You're right, He's just kind of not in a great mood.
And I'm with you.
I didn't see the question that was asked, did he volunteer that? Or it's like what were your interactions with him? Like one, Tiger Woods became a legend, not just because he was kicking everyone's ass, but a lot like Michael Jordan was the way.
He kicked everyone's ass.
He didn't have any friends on the PGA tour, he didn't talk with anyone on the PGA tour, he didn't fratnize with anybody. Tony Fenale famously said in twenty nineteen like it was like whole three or four. Tony was like trying to just break the ice on Sunday, like, Tiger, how are the kids? Tiger basically said fine and never even looked at him and kept walking. Tony's like, I'm not saying another word of this guy.
And it was a.
Throwback and historically, like that's the way Tiger became the most famous golfer of all time. Operating and Rory, who does feel a little more chit chatty, like what's he supposed to say to Bryson, especially given their history last year, like this was a big time moment for the guy's career and unlike Bryson, I don't want to say make or break Rory, but there was a lot of There was way more.
In the line for Rory than Bryson, and so I listen.
I think it's stupid that we even like sometimes people in golf don't want to talk sometimes, like Jimmy Butler talking with Dylan Brooks.
Like guys talk shit to each other.
It's like, welcome to Draymond Green and Jalen Green screaming at each.
Other the other day.
It's like, this is sports, guys. This isn't like an interaction at the local FedEx. It's like everyone has calmed down being nice to each other. Like this, emotions are high. People like spend a lot of time prepared for this is their test the game, and sometimes you're pissed off, you know, and everyone handles that better.
I'm with you.
I think it's Rory didn't owe him to talk to him. I don't even think Bryson is like offended by it. What does Bryson want to bullshit about?
What? Like Rory's kids, Rory's how.
He overcame the potential divorce that got back together, Like what did they did they go to marriage counseling?
Like is that what he's asking him about? Is he asking him about?
Like, hey man, how many times do YouTube my bunker shot at Pinehurst?
So I'm with you, total.
No one cares that actually matters, and I don't blame Rory and I think he needs a channel more of that.
Just become a complete asshole on Sundays. It's one thing. Thursday or Friday be a little weird.
I would say, But Sunday at the Masters with his felt like the entire way to the world on Rory's shoulders. Now listen, Bryson had a little house money. If Bryson beats him, it would be like the old mid ownage of a guy like this is insane.
Rison beat you again. So I think part of it was. I think a huge element was that.
And like if Rory had played with Shane Lowry, yeah, they probably talk.
Frory had played with Xander, they probably bullshit a little. When we say.
Bullshitting, like you're just standing next to a guy for five hours, You're eventually gonna say some stuff. I think this one like totally. I don't think most of us would have said a word either.
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