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3 & Out - Best of The Week: Watson was a mistake, Jerry Jones on Parsons, Geno got paid

Published Apr 6, 2025, 10:01 AM

This week on the podcast John discussed a bunch of the news that came out of the owners meetings starting with the Browns owners publicly saying that Watson has been a huge mistake, Jerry Jones on why he hasn't paid Parsons, and Geno Smith getting a contract extension. All that and more!

 

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The volume. What is going on my people? How are we doing out there on the streets. Hopefully everyone is having a great day. And I wanted to do a little weekend best of because we had a big week of shows. Obviously, the NFL got together in southern Florida and had some owners meetings, and Jimmy Haslam made a comment that was like, WHOA, You're not used to hearing that. Jerry Jones also had some comments on Micah Parsons. You had owners just letting it fly. And then Gino Smith got paid this week. I got a contract extension. He got paid years ago by Seattle, but he got a contract extension and we'll be the Raiders quarterback at least for the next couple of years. And we kind of dove into kind of a crazy turn of events when you look at his career financially, these last four or five years have been very, very lucrative to Gino Smith. So let's dive into the best of before we dive in to the old podcast talking about some football. 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I would only speak when it was kind of mandated that I speak, like at these owners meetings when you really can't hide, or after a monumental decision for the organization, a hiring of a coach, a firing of a coach, even a big signing of a player, like Ultimately, that's why I pay my GM and the head coach millions of dollars. And I gave Jimmy Haslam credit. When Miles Garrett demanded his trade and who's represented by Clutch and Rich Paul and they wanted a one on one meeting with Jimmy Haslam. Jimmy Haslam simply told him meet with my GM. He's in charge now. Ultimately, in a weird way, it all kind of work because Miles Garrett got a historic contract. But I do think for a guy that has, you know, a pass that's more than questionable. With Flying Jay and the trucking company who's had a disastrous ownership, there is no disputing that no owner is more actual cash than Jimmy Haslam over these last four years. You know, now clearly that hasn't equated into dominating the NFL. But it's not from a lack of cutting checks. He is doing things that a lot of teams take a lot of shit in this league. Hell, Jerry Jones, who is an extremely wealthy man, is often criticized for sneaky epay some of his top guys but not spending as much cash as other owners. And Jimmy Haslam spares no expense when it comes to his football team, specifically the players. Now, I remember reading an article within the last month, or maybe it was within the last couple months that said you can't always buy your way to championships. Obviously, culture, the right coaching, the right players who you're actually paying really matters. So there are a lot of variables to this. But it's pretty rare that you get a microphone in front of an owner a guy that you have on your current team, who you are paying a lot of money, even if it is an epic all time disaster, that you get them to be honest, that you get them to be candid, because let's face it, you know, we use the term coach speak a lot when coaches just basically say nothing. Yet they're talking a lot. It's like, he just talked for fifteen minutes. I don't think he said anything of value. And they're good at it, and I don't ever blame them for doing it. And owners and gms do the same thing. Jimmy Haslam came out today and said, in regards to Deshaun Watson, quote, it was a big swing and a miss. I was like, damn. Even though every human alive, whether you're in Cleveland, Ohio, whether you're in Scottsdale, Arizona, whether you were in the in Dubai, if you fall football, you know that Deshaun Watson trade contract has been an all time disaster. But usually they just give you a BS. Listen, We're gonna keep trying to add to the football team. Deshawn's doing everything possible to rehab and get his achilles right, and you know he has the right attitude and just all all the BS cliche stuff is typically what I would have expected. If you told me Jimmy Haslam today at the owners meetings is going to be asked about Deshaun Watson, I would not have expected this. And you know what we have to acknowledge because I think with this, Deshaun Watson will never play another game for the Cleveland Browns. His career for the Cleveland Browns is over. Because I don't think you say a comment like this without basically acknowledging like this thing is a rap. Obviously, we can't cut him because it accelerates the contract. But he's got a torn achilles. We never plan on making him our quarterback again. And the ninety million plus we owe him we will pay over the life of the next couple of years. And it is what it is, and over the next couple of years he will be I'm sure released from the Cleveland Browns, whether that's twenty six or twenty seven. I'd even go as far to say I don't think Deshaun Watson will ever play in the NFL again. And if you've listened to me long enough, you know I'm not some moral high horse guy when it comes to the private sector, whether that's whatever industry you work in specifically. Obviously, I talk a lot about the NFL, like the job of an NFLGM and an NFL head coach is not to teach society life lessons. There have been a lot of bad guys, questionable characters who have played a lot in the NFL. Why because they could play, and that is the job of a team to get the best players possible. That gives you the best chance to win. But the moment, you can't play, And to Shaun's clearly proven the last couple of years he can no longer play at a high level. Honestly, he's awful. Like he's objectively one of the worst players his time in Cleveland that we've seen in the NFL for decades. Now, you factor in extensive injury history shoulder achilles, then you factor in the baggage off the field. I don't think he ever gets signed in the NFL again, because if he had been a high level player and became available, you would be naive and ignorant to think a lot of teams wouldn't line up to acquire a quarterback.

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That's why the Cleveland Browns gave him two hundred and thirty million dollars because they thought they were getting a star player from Houston. All the stuff off the field was being discussed, what was out there didn't matter. They didn't care. And then Deshaun's like, I'm not going to Cleveland, and they said what will cost you? And they gave him the contract terms and Jimmy HASLM gave it to him. But the reason this contract has been a disaster. He's awful and now he's injured and now to the rest of the NFL, I think he's untouchable when you factor in just the toxic nature of his name. You just say, Deshaun Watson an NFL fanals but he can't play. It's the reason a lot of guys with questionable off the field situations, whether they are guilty in the quart of law or not, that's not the NFL's job. This isn't the justice department. Honestly, if you are a free man walking, they don't give a shit. If they think you're a high level player. It's been proven over and over and over and it will continue to be proven over and over moving forward. If you are a high impactful talented guy, you are gonna get countless shots. Deshaun Watson no longer is. And when I think you factor in the baggage and the toxicity that he brings moving forward, I think his NFL career is done. And I don't throw that out lightly, Like I said, zero moral stance coming here. It's just simple of like his production to baggage talent rate is all out of whack, and there's gonna be no way to prove it because clearly he's never playing another snap for Cleveland. So I think we have seen the end of Sean Watson. You know, when you get older. I turned forty a couple months ago, you start, I don't want to say you go through a midlife crisis, but over the course of your late thirties, at anyone listening to this that's older than me, you start comparing life moments to like when individuals die or when you start seeing someone their child is twenty five and in the NFL or in the NBA. Hell, I was watching the Final four and watching Jace Richardson, Jason Richardson's son star for Michigan State. I remember being at a Kings game, sneaking up to basically courtside a couple rows behind with my buddy Mike Ewing that I grew up with watching a Warriors Kings game and Jason Richardson, who at the time felt like he was a first or second year player. I was in high school in him doing a breakaway three sixty and I'm watching his son. It's like, God, I feel old, and part of life is aging, and as you get older, you know, these people that have been in your life kind of come down the home stretch. And if you love sports, and especially where I grew up, forty nine Ers and Cowboys were a really big deal, and I Jerry Jones has been in my life like most people that fallow football for a long time now. And I watched a clip of the kind of quote that went viral that discussing Micah Parsons, and you know, the main part of the quote was like I'd rather pay more and get it right, which I want to dive into that quote. But watching Jerry is like, God, he's he's aging, and he's aging. Of course he's he's in his eighties. And I think the Cowboys right now, it's just going to be a weird little stretch in Jerry's older years. There is no disputing it's not apples to apples, but there does feel a little bit like Al Davis Jerry Jones, two of the biggest names in the history of the league, guys that own the team and ram the team. The end got a little weird, and that's that's what it feels like right now with Jerry. Even if you listen to him talk and go, yeah, I'm just going right to Micah Parsons. I'm the guy cutting the check. He's the guy that has to accept the deal. Why am I wasting time talking to anyone else? That's not that abnormal. It feels kind of weird because Jerry saying it. TJ. Watt did this a couple of years ago when he held in and went right to Art Rooney's office. Last year, when the negotiations were going on with Brandon Ayuk, it was constantly Kyle John and brand and Ayuke dealing with each other on top of the agent. Now, when you make the quote, I'd rather pay more and get it right, I think there's a lot of validity to that statement. In any walk of life, you were better off paying a little bit more and being happy with your purchase. I mean, think how many things in life that if you go cheap on end up costing you more money in the long run. It happens constantly with you know, purchases under one hundred bucks to purchase his like cars and homes, that you're like, God, damn, I should not have done this, and it backfires. I would say Jerry has a point when you'd rather pay more and get it right when it comes to free agents, right when you are shopping with NFL free agents, you would rather pay a guy twenty million dollars a year and feel very good about him either become being a Pro Bowl player, a high end starter and feeling good about it, even if you are making him the highest paid player at his position. Then pay an average guy sixteen million dollars a year and go, we're just filling a need here. This I'm not comfortable with it. Totally understand that, and I completely agree. But when you are extending your own players, especially superstar players who are going to make an astronomical amount of money, the Miles Garretts, you know, the Justin Jeffersons, obviously, the quarterbacks, a guy like Micah Parsons. The difference of ten fifteen million dollars on the total guarantee could be the difference of an extra starter or two. So when Jerry the last couple of deals he's had with Ceedee Lamb with Dak Prescott has cost him starting players, they don't have the wiggle room because of the way that he does deals. And then his arch rival, the Eagles, are known for doing deals early and saving money over the course of a couple seasons. Like, it's not like the Eagles don't have a lot of high priced players. They've extended a lot of them early. It's saved them money a year or two later, and it enables them to basically have an offense that has like nine of their eleven starters are MAX players. And the Cowboys like, well, we can only have three MAX players on the whole fucking team. Like that's not normal, Like that's just bad business. And I would imagine, you know, Steven's in a tough spot. I've always I've never met him, but I've known people that have Nico bociated with him, not even for player stuff, but in other walks of life, that speak really highly of them, and to say he's pretty level headed guy to do business with I think sometimes when you're eighty plus years old, you are as rich as guy, a guy like Jerry, And this would be true in any walk of life. You know, it's hard to maintain your fastball. Usually the guy that throws one hundred miles an hour at twenty eight at thirty years old is not doing it at forty five years old. Dan Marino can throw a tight spiral, but his arm strength probably isn't the same at sixty years old. And you're watching Jerry now, one of the true mavericks and great businessmen in the history of the NFL, has been a huge part of the growth and the explosion of the marketing and the popularity of football in terms of the mindset on the business side of the league office. He deserves a lot of credit for that. But the guy we're seeing now, and it pains me to say this feels like a shell of them himself. And you know it goes with the Brian Schottenheimer higher. It's just a bizarre place right now. And ultimately he'll pay Michael Parsons and he'll give him one hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed, where you know, if he would have done this early. He probably could have got him for twenty percent cheaper, but that's not the way Jerry does business. And then he'll just complain like we got three guys making max money, and it's like, yeah, he probably could have saved done all three of them, and they still could have been incredibly wealthy and you would have had a better team. But that's not what happens when you got a guy like Jerry running the team as a GM in his eighties, Like, how is he going to compete against Howie Roseman and Adam Peters in his own division? News flash, he can't. 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I remember when I first got into radio. I was doing some stuff on the side on local television in the Bay Area, and it was really cool. It was a really big deal for my dad. You know, he could watch Living an hour away, watch me on the Comcast channel that had the Warriors, the Kings, the San Franisco Giants, and I would do like local television shows about Oakland Raiders and San Franco forty nine ers topics, and I used to be really offended when they wouldn't let me talk basketball or baseball. It's like, guys, I understand, I'm a quote unquote football guy, but I got a radio show that's doing really well in the ratings here and we're talking everything. And he used to really bother me, And eventually my partner told me, like, if you're gonna get pigeonholed at anything, football is not the worst way to go. That there are way worse things to get painted into a corner as quote unquote the football guy. And again, like, I don't know if it was a chip on my shoulder, some anger about like I can talk everything. I will talk baseball and basketball, and looking back, it was such a stupid thing to get worked up on. And he was right, like being the football guy, you could do a lot worse in a country that is football obsessed. But I think that's true anything in life. You know, when you enter a company, people look at you. If you start as an intern, sometimes it's hard to shake the way they look at you, even if you've inevitably been there for a while. And I think that happens with quarterbacks. Once you become the backup quarterback, it is very hard to ever be viewed as this guy can be my starting quarterback. Usually you need something extreme to happen, and that happened Geno Smith when John Schneider traded Russell Wilson to the Denver Broncos. And it by far is not only the best thing that ever happened to him on the field, because he got a chance to play and he proved that he was a good player. But financially, I don't know if we've ever seen anything like this. I looked it up today. Gino Smith, who, let's face it, after a year or two early on in his career, was just viewed as a guy that was going to struggle to hold on and then he kind of had developed himself as a backup quarterback. And I was guilty of this. I just assumed Gino Smith the rest of his life was going to be a backup quarterback. And as of twenty twenty one, you know, Gino was not a high draft pick, draft in the second round, had made ten million dollars. Now for ninety nine point nine percent of thirty year olds already accumulating ten million dollars in the workforce. It's pretty incredible. But when you're playing in the NFL, you know you started doing the match, you're like the position I play the guy, this guy is probably gonna end his career at the time. If you would have bet maybe a couple more contracts to be backup quarterback, I don't know, twenty million dollars. I looked it up today. He is on pace now with this new contract extension from the Raiders that guarantees him over sixty five million dollars minimum. That assumes that like he plays bad, they cut him. They only have to pay him the true guarantees he's going to make well over one hundred and twenty five million dollars. In twenty twenty one, he had a career earnings of ten million dollars, and by twenty twenty seven he will have twelve and a half x that minimum. There's a decent chance he'll be at one hundred and forty one hundred and fifty million dollars. So not only is this guy an incredible story, he got his opportunity, he made the most of it. He became which is pretty crazy. If I would have told anyone would you have bet that Gino Smith over the next five years would be a dramatically better player than Russell Wilson, there would have been one hundred percent universal agreement, no chance. And I don't think not only is he a better player than Russell Wilson, every team in the league would take Geno Smith over Russell Wilson and did not see that coming. But John Schneider Pete Carroll benefited from that. Now Pete Carroll back with the Raiders, they make a trade for him, they have, you know, a pretty highly paid He's better than a quote unquote Bridge quarterback, but he's definitely just holding the fort down until you find a younger player. But he does allow you to not force a pick. And if Shador Sanders is there at pick six, which who knows, you could convince me that he's gone it too. You could convince me that he doesn't even get drafted in the top ten. It's what makes the draft fascinating most years is we don't have any clue how it's going to play out. But I think it's fair to say that more like if I was a betting man, the Raiders are not going to take a quarterback in the top ten. Doesn't mean they won't. They still can. You easily could pull the trigger. How Pete Carroll did this once upon a time when he signed Matt Flynn and took Russell Wilson in the third round. Now, I do think they'd be more inclined to take a guy on the second day, you know where, you know, help John Spytek the Raiders GM when he was in Tampa. Their last two quarterbacks, you know one honestly, the guy they first drafted was Jameis Winston. That blew up in their face. And then you know, found Tom Brady just as a free agent and have to give up a draft pick. And then they found Baker Mayfield for four million dollars, they have to give up a draft pick. So I do wonder if they are going to over extend themselves if they are on the fence, assuming Shador Sanders is there, and now this allows them to, you know, take another position if they want. Not that we didn't know this was coming because when they made the trade for Geno Smith, it was well reported that they they're going to extend him, and they did. And now Gino Smith went from ten million dollars to a career earnings potentially at one hundred and thirty hundred and forty million dollars when his career's all over. Just a incredible football story, an incredible business story. I mean, if he was a stock and you would have invested him in twenty twenty one, you would have had pretty and credible returns. The mm hmm

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