3 and Out -  Zach Wilson Injury, Jimmy G → Jets Fit, Pickett Game-Winner

Published Aug 15, 2022, 10:50 AM

John explains why the PGA and NFL need to do better to get it right when so much gambling money is on the line, if Packers HC Matt LaFleur has a point about unreasonable preseason travel, if the Zach Wilson injury gives proves no starters should play in the preseason, if the Jets should sign Jimmy G if Wilson is out for an extended period of time, and why he’s not fawning over Kenny Pickett’s game-winning drive against the Seahawks.

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The volume. The Three and Out Podcast with me John Middlecoff is presented by FanDuel Sports Book. There's no better place to make every moment more than with FanDuel. Great odds and markets for baseball, the NBA, NHL, PGA Tour, and so much more. Awesome new and existing user promotions. America's number one sports book. Very easy to use, safe and secure. You get your winnings fast. I cannot recommend it enough. Love gambling with FanDuel. If you are a new just download the fan Duel sports Book app to get started now. Signed up with promo code Colin so they know we sent you. What is going on everybody, John middlecop Three and Out Podcast. I hope everyone is doing well. I hope everyone had a good week end. And uh, I know I did. We haven't done one of these Sunday podcasts in a while, but a lot of stuff happened this weekend. They got me fired up. I had some takes and it was like, you know, four thirty in the afternoon, I just got done watching a little golf. I'm like, you know, let's go record a pod. Let's go spit a little fire into a microphone that connects to an Apple computer and send it off to my people and post it so people can listen. And that's what we did. If you listen through Collins Feed, subscribe to this feed, we'll do the Middlecoff mail bag. We do that on Tuesday, and we do that over the weekend. It's just my Instagram handle, which is me at John Middlecoff two fs. Uh, fire in those d m s and get your question answered here on the show. Uh, we were basically I think the Raider game is officially done now that I'm press record, not that I even have a take on that thing, but uh, you know, we're basically on the second week of preseason, which now there's only three games because of the added regular season games. So you know, we're we're moving, We're moving and shaking. Uh. Football is right around the core, and I'm excited. But I didn't want to start with something that you know, this is not the Go Low podcast. But I saw two things happen, well one thing happened this morning, and I do think there are some parallels with football, and I think there are parallels with a lot of sports. Uh. This company, the volume is in business with a gambling company. FanDuel H a lot of people are in business with FanDuel, just like a lot of people are in business with their competition other gambling entities. There's a lot of money in gambling. Why it's in all cash business, money flows and in what we do. Talking about sports, me specifically talking about football and golf, gamble, it's gambling is heavy. I mean the number one sport we've been on his football. It's why the basketball and baseball like there's this element like gambling is not going to impact them as much as it does football. We've we've always gambled on football and golf. As someone who is a gambler, and I can honestly say it's my favorite thing to do is gamble on golf. It's fun. But when you get in bed with this and as it becomes legally throughout the country, Uh, state by state is coming through even the state that I live in currently. Uh, California, who I thought was gonna fight this thing to the bitter end because we have these Indian casinos and their grandfather did they got the market cornered well that they're basically getting overruled and UH they have paid off politicians for years to fight it off. Last year, just got thrown off a ballot. Uh that it doesn't look like it's gonna be the case, and it could happen as soon as this fall. Uh. Gambling could be legal in California. Obviously, just happened in New York City. It's happening in big states left and right, as it should. But when you're gonna make gambling legal, you have to make sure to be as credible as possible. And there was a moment this morning in the Gulf where they assess cam Smith two shots a penalty twenty four hours after the incident happened, and that that's just unacceptable. That cannot happen when your balls deep with gambling companies. And if you watch golf tournaments every single day, when this tournament starting or throughout the tournament, they have live odds up on the screen. Well, obviously, if a guy's two shots back and he's a great player, his odds are gonna be a lot better than if he's four shot back and he was two shots back on the gambling markets for almost twenty four hours. I say this all the time. In football, you can't have egregious mistakes in the second half if you want to take all this gambling money. It cannot happen. And listen, I understand that being an official referee, an umpire, calling balls and strikes, calling fouls, calling pass interference is not easy to do in real time. These are human beings. They make human errors. I just know, with the technology we have, it's unacceptable. You see it all the time in baseball with Angel Hernandez, who is one of the most incompetent employees in the history America. For someone who maintains his job in no other industry beside the government, what a guy like him keep his job? He is terrible. And we consistently see it with officials in football. And you cannot promote and push gambling like all these leagues are doing, and rightfully so if I was, they might take all the money and keep your credibility when ship like this happens. And you know, we're gonna see a bunch of stuff in the NFL season because we're gonna talk gambling, you know, those of us, and the growing, the growing percentage adds every day new people that gamble on these games. You can't call a past interference that leads to a field goal, that leads to a loss when there is no past interference, it cannot happen anymore. Now I don't have a solution, uh if everything should be reviewable, but it's just those are the type controversies that these leagues when they're taking taking the gambling money, have to figure out a way to somehow avoid because it's costing real human their consumers cash. And the other thing is speaking of Cam Smith. Uh live has been one of the most talked about sports controversies of the last six months, and rightfully so. It's very fascinating. Uh every angle you can think of, from sport to money to politics, it's got it all. I mean, it's it's a fascinating story. Well, one of the best, the second best player in the world is going to live. It's a it's a lock a hundred million dollars Camp Smith is going and a lot of people are very mad that he's playing in these three tournaments, one of them eventually pays out fifteen million dollars to the winner, which he is going to have a very good chance to win. And I've been around several people the last couple of days and week that think it's kind of bush league and bullshit that he's doing this and that they can't kick him out. And listen, anyone listening to this. In my generation, forty and under changed jobs at rapid rates we have had. I think the average of someone like fourty years old is like two and a half jobs. You know, from twenty to forty. Honestly, I might be higher. Like my parents generation never change jobs. They kept their job their entire life. That is a complete opposite. I mean I know some people and by the time they were thirty and like work for four different companies. By the time there is ship, they're my age late thirties. Double that right. It's a very very different culture. But part of that culture is when you earn a bonus, you don't leave until you get that bonus, and then you bounce. That's the way industries work, That's the way humans work. Now. Companies ideally don't like that, but it happens every day that we don't live in a utopian society. We live in the real world. And when you have an opportunity to get a bonus, whether you make a hundred million dollars or whether you make a hundred thousand dollars, a bonus is fifteen percent of that money. There is not a human alive who wouldn't wait it out to potentially earn that bonus. It's not even guaranteed until they left for their new company. That's just the way it works. And I don't fault him at all, because, like I said, well he's getting a hundred million dollars. Well, the potential payout is of that. So just put it into normal economics. Right, if you made fifty thou dollars, then someone offers you a job for a hundred thousand dollars, but you had an opportunity at that fifty thousand dollar job to make fifteen thousand dollars, you would wait until you potentially hit that to go to your new company. And I don't fault him. I don't fault anyone who does that. The other thing in corporate America, and when I worked for the Eagles, there was one guy signing the check. Now it's you know, an NFL team is not a mom and pop shop, but it's one individual that owns the squad right where when I worked in radio, it was owned by Cumulus or Entercom, these major major corporations where the middle manager or whoever your boss is, that's designing on your salary. It ain't his money. And the longer you're in it, the more numb you get to it. Like you just control a budget. You have nothing to do with the flow of this cash. And I think a lot of people, and I'm sure many people listening, this is the longer you work in corporate America, be greedy, because I don't believe that when you're involved in mom and pop shops and involved in individuals like I would never the situation like if the volume was owned by a corporate entity and not just I interact with Colin talking about stuff, I would probably approach this somewhat differently, right, it would just I would look at it differently, but instead like this is Colin's project. Colin is the head oncho here that this is not currently something run by some huge entity. And when you work for those huge entities that they look at you like a widget, and when you're looked at like a widget, you gotta be emotionless and you gotta fight for every single penny because at any moment it could it could end. Right, So that that's my just piece of advice in general. Uh and cam Smith, I not only understand where he's coming from I think he's doing the right thing. 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You know, my fondest memories of being a sports fan when it was as pure as it ever was, was the nineties and Michael Jordan's uh Niners verse far Niners versus the Cowboys, Like, That's what I think of, And when I see those teams play still to this day, it does something inside of me that I no longer or feel like a child very often when it comes to sports. I got into this because it was my passion, but it's so different once you start doing it for a job. And when I'm just on my couch watching Niners Packers, even in a meaningless preseason game with every good player on both teams on the sideline beside like Trey Lance. Uh. And I'm not saying he's a good player yet, but I mean, he's the only guy that's really gonna matter that played in that game. And it made me feel like, I love this game. I wish they kind of like the Colts and the Patriots in their heyday. And I know they earned it because they were always first place. They get to play every year. I would love the forty Niners and Packers to play every year in the regular season. But Lafleur made a comment I think today at practice or in a press conference, how bull you know, how Maddie was. He basically just said, we got home at five in the morning. How ridiculous and ludicrous that is in the preseason because it destroys your body clock, whether you're a player, or whether you're a coach, or whether you're anyone involved in the team. And I was thinking, you see some of these matchups in the preseason, teams flying halfway across the country. The forty Niners this week are doing a joint practice and then playing a preseason game on Saturday night against the Minnesota Vikings. Why I just cannot understand for the life of me. I think there's an easy solution. You take every single conference and you split them up, right, the NFC, the f C, and then you take the divisions and you just go the a f C West plays the NFC West, the the a f C North plays the NFC North. So instead of the Packers playing the forty Niners in a stupid, meaningless preseason game, they would just play the Bengals. They would just play, you know, the Browns. They would just play something regionally. That makes a little bit more sense. Same thing. A f C South, NFC South. Who do the Titans play the Saints, the Falcons? Everything is relatively close. Who do the forty Niners play? They don't play Minnesota. They would play the Raiders. They would play the Chargers and play the Denver Broncos boom And Yeah, these aren't all five minute trips, but it still limits the amount of this insane travel because I am with La Flour that the coaches get there, what do they do maybe go home for a couple of hours and then come back and work. The players, who probably have a lift later that day are all thrown off and it just throws off the mojo of camp. Now, it's part of the deal. In the regular season, right, you play a Monday night game, you get home super late, you play a Sunday night game, it's unavoidable. But in the preseason, isn't this avoidable in the preseason? I think La flour is dead on here. Um. I think it's absolutely ridiculous. I mean, you should not be getting home at five am in the preseason from a game that that That is just beyond stupid. And we we talked about this last week. I didn't know if there's a right or wrong answer, because I don't believe there is. I don't believe you can just say no one needs to play in the preseason, or every starter should play in the preseason. Every individual in every team is a little bit different from the other, and clearly some teams have philosophical differences when it comes to playing these games. And you see Sean McVeigh, who if you watch a Rams game for two seconds in a preseason, you will see that no human alive in the history of the sport of football has ever cared less about the preseason than Sean McVeigh. And he has been consistent with that his entire career, he does not take it seriously. And then on the flip side, Andy Reid takes it very, very seriously. He plays his starters to start games and he thinks there's a benefit to it. And from what I've been told, Patrick Mahomes has been absolutely dialed this preseason. Well, they don't just go, well, he's died in the practices, let's not worry about the games. They go, let's start a game. Boom, he goes six and seven, leads a touchdown drive and you keep that momentum. And I'm not And even though that's the only thing I've ever experienced coach read taken preseason games seriously. I understand where Sean McVeigh is coming from. Lafleur copy Sean McVeigh, no one plays. I get both sides because I have said this forever about the sport of football. You can get hurt literally doing anything. You can get hurt playing in regular season games. You get hurt playing in playoff games. You get hurt during the week in practice. You can get hurt in training camp, you get hurt in preseason games. You can get hurt in the summer working out. Rahim Mozart. Actually it was Jeff Wilson Jr. Who is now like the second string running back for the Niners. Last year during the off season tourism, meniscus sitting on a chair. So there is no perfect strategy to avoid injuries. They happen in practice, they happen in the gym, they happen on the game field. So I don't blame anyone for any of these situations. And I do understand, for example, Trevor Lawrence, justin Field, Trey Lance, and Zack Wilson much more than Mac Jones, who started every single game last year. And there it's just in a little bit, just has more experience than those guys, even though Field and and and Lawrence I guess played a lot too. I guess Lawrence started the majority of games as well, but I don't even count that season for the Jacks. I mean, hell, Mac Jones started a playoff game, so I understand, and Mac Jones played. I guess Mac Jones did not play in the preseason, even though Built Belichick his store at least the first preseason game has played those guys. Zack Wilson got hurt, and as of recording this, I think best case scenario, it's just a light tear and it might be two to four weeks and he would have a chance of playing in the first regular season game. And if that's the case, even if he misses Week one, he'll be back in September. But it's pretty clear there's also information out they don't know for sure that it's not worse, and they won't know for sure until they basically cut open his knee and look, so they are is worst case potential that he's gone for the season, And this is just I I can't blame the Jets because Zack Wilson needs game reps and when you look at the play that he got injured on, honestly, I thought it was a pretty innocuous, just kind of leap forward. And I know the first reaction whenever there's non contact injuries, everyone like, oh, non contact, Well, not all non contact injuries look the same. And as someone who is just a lover of football, I want to see Zach Wilson play. Everyone's like, oh, now you can trade Jimmy Garoppolo to the Jets. No, I want Zack Wilson to be healthy and just find out, like the Jets, is he any good. I don't know, but they have some more pieces. I want to see him play. And it just sucks. Now keep I'm I'm not a Jets fan by any means, but my fingers are crossed. I hope that he is not seriously injured and he's able to, you know, come back as soon as possible. But if he's not, it's just a devastating blow and it and it really really sucks. And I know a lot of people like Goddess, it's not fun to be a Jets fan, and that would be an all time kick. And then you know what, But at least if it does happen, uh, which is the worst case scenario by far, he's out for the season, they find out something bad in there. Once the doctor gets in there, the Jimmy Garoppolo thing is pretty smooth for them. Robert Sala and his offensive coordinator la Fleur were with the forty niners for literally four seasons and went to a Super Bowl with the guy. I mean, Lafleur was one of Kyle Shanahan's right hand guy, so would not only know him really well, Jimmy would know the offense and would know the offensive coordinator, so he talked about a smooth transition, and there is more and more buzz on the internet that Deshaun Watson's gonna get suspended for a year, which I've been saying the whole time was the easiest decision in the history of Roger Goodell's commissionership. Uh, And I know he was like, you know, give you guys, I'll give you how about this, Roger be eight games and five million dollar fine. I was like, no, bro, we're giving you a year and we're finding ten million dollars and ten million dollars the fine is based on last year, Like he did not get spend it last year, and you're not circumventing in the cap just because they're paying you a million dollars. So you gotta come down with the hammer in this situation. So what's crazy is I thought were insane for keeping Jimmy garoppolo. It might actually work out in their you know, favor, that it might not just be one option, there might be multiple options. So that's something to definitely keep an eye on the next couple of days. But I mean, if you're just a fan of football, I just saw'll keep our fingers crossed that this guy did not get seriously injured on an absolute meaningless game. And last, but not least, I don't unless I know you and don't like you. I'm not rooting against any of these people. Did I say aren't good enough or I don't like them as a coach. I don't know them personally. It might be a nice guy, and sometimes I know through other people that like, yeah, Cliff King's very great guy. I would hang out with Cliff Kingsbury. It seems like a dude's dude. Everyone I knew as a scout went through there all the time, and they always loved him. I just don't really like his style of coaching. I don't like his offense. Me and him philosophically don't view football the same way. And honestly, he's grown on me much more. I'm out on his quarterback. Now that's a reflection to him, because he's the guy banging the table. He should be signed. So but I don't. I had nothing against these guys personally. And when I said that, I thought Kenny Pickett was and this happens a lot in the draft. I based everything on value. It's like, yeah, I wouldn't have bought that home for a million dollars to me, it's worth thou dollars. Well, when you talk like that, no one puts any emotion there. But when I go, you know, I would never have touched Kenny Pickett at pick twenty. I think that's an insane movie, like, oh, you hater, you can't you you're such a hater man. Now, I just I don't think Kenny Pickett is a good enough player to take that high. It's very unemotional with me, very black and white, like I thought it was an insane pick. I don't think he's good enough. Mac Jones I thought was drafted too high and this guy is like the poor poor man's version of Mac Jones. And then yesterday on social media, I'm not watching the game live, but I see Kenny Pickett game winning drive, game winning touchdown throw, and I'm sitting there, Uh, played golf, had had a couple of pops, and I'm thinking to myself, well, this isn't the regular game winning drive fourth quarters. I mean, most normal human beings that don't work for the team usually turn off the game in the second half, right Why, Because guys that aren't even gonna be playing in the NFL. No disrespect to them. It's just just a simple reality. That's usually who's playing at that time. The fourth quarter you talk about, I mean, they're garbage time in the regular season, and a blog you talk about garbage time now, not for those individuals trying to make a practice squad or show off to the Sometimes when you're at these NFL practices. A couple of days ago, I was watching I was on the sideline watching the Niners practice. I look ahead of me and there are two CFL scouts they're watching practice. Well, what do you think they're doing. They're scouting the guys through ninety to eventually offer contracts with or two and try to get them to come play in their league. The Canadian Football League scouts training camp. When I was a scout, I used to be the point man for those guys and tell them, you know, this guy's got no chance to make our team. He's probably not gonna get picked up on a practice squad. You should be intrigued by him, like that's just those are the guys a lot of times playing in the fourth quarter, dudes that the CFL is looking at. And Kenny Picket, who's twenty four years old, was playing at the end of the fourth quarter. And I've had multiple people and I'm not talking about reports from people on the grounds, which has been pretty consistent. It has been an up and down situation for the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback situation. Well, I had more. I text with multiple buddies in the league on different teams. They're like, yeah, I've heard it is a league. Of course it is. Mr Bisky is not a very good player. He's a backup. Kenny Pickett is playing at the end of the fourth quarter in a preseason game. Tell me this, if you are not a fan of the Steelers, which you could be emotionally little mad at me right now, you're a fan of any of the other thirty one teams, and I tell you that you draft a quarterback overall overall in the first round and he is playing the last snaps of the fourth quarter in his rookie season in the preseason. Would you not say, with a straight face, yeah, that's that's not ideal. That you know that shouldn't be. And I say this all the time. I judge every human being off actions, not words. Words mean absolutely nothing. When I was a kid, I'd always tell my parents, I'm gonna I'm gonna make my bed, I'm gonna clean my room, and then they'd come in later and it wasn't made. It happens a lot with children. It obviously happens a lot with politicians. They say one thing and they never follow up. They're all about their words. Well, we'll do what means ship And it's no different with coaches. They always blow smoke about certain players. This guy is having a great camp. We love this guy. Well, if you did, you wouldn't put him in that situation because the one thing canny pick It has going for him, it's like reps. He was a fifth year senior, he's twenty four years old. He's been starting forever. I understand, like forcing Trey Lance or Zach Wilson to get some reps there one years old, you know the COVID year haven't played that much football, especially Trey Lance, Like we got we gotta get this guy some canny pick It needs reps help. Even Mac Jones last year talking about reps. He'd only started for like a year and a half because of to a canny pick It. The last thing we should be talking about is reps. If anything, it's experience experience, experience. So you have this old quarterback that you overdrafted and you're playing at the end of the fourth quarter. Uh, there's just no way around it. You can't convince me this thing is anything but not good. You could say whatever you want. Judge these judge the team off the actions, and the actions say that they clearly have some concerns. Uh. Well, the podcast coming out on Tuesday. We'll keep this thing rolling at John middlecoff is the Instagram firing those d m s, and uh, I will talk to everyone soon. And um, have a good week. Let's let's have a hopefully you're having a good Monday. Not a case of the Mondays. I got a little case of the of the Sunday scarias right now. But I'm gonna go barbecue, So talk to everyone. Volume