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What is going on everybody? How are we doing John middlecop Three and Out Podcast. Hopefully everyone is having a great day out there on the mean streets of real life. And we're here to podcast because that's what we do here in the three and Out Podcast. And today I do want to dive into, uh, not just cam Ward who had his pro day, but just in general, what we've seen this last draft, which was very transferred portal heavy, and what we expect in this upcoming draft, which all the quarterbacks and the transfer portal have become synonymous with each other and to incredible success. Pooka and Akua had some comments today about retiring early. I do want to dive into that incredible moment on the internet. I saw what happened on television, what happened in real life, but I saw it on the internet. It was on television, the wrestling upset that happened at the National Championship. Daniel Cormier was there calling it legendary. Guy got beat. And of course, the Middlecoff Mailbag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire into those dms and get your questions answered here on the show at John Middlecoff is the Instagram, Fire in those dms and get your questions answered. Here on the show, we will do a mailbag and that will be the game plan for today. So we'll talk a little football. We'll do a little mailbag. Well, we'll talk a little more football, and yeah, we'll kind of go from there. So we did a podcast yesterday. You can see that recorded on Sunday for Monday, and then obviously this one. So a couple of podcasts so far this week. But before we dive into some football, I do need to tell you about my friends, my partners, and the official ticketing app of this podcast. Listen, we have the Sweet sixteen Thursday and Friday. So do you live in one of these areas? We got the NBA playoffs right around the corner. We got the NHL playoffs right around the corner. 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Down to the game Time app today last minute tickets, lowest prices gearan. It's funny how things are viewed a certain way and then over time that dramatically changes. And I think when you look at the landscape of college sports forever, if you were changing schools, it was usually a red flag. Hell I remember growing up, it's like my dad's like put down the video games, pick up a book, and now people watch other people play video games, streaming and YouTube, and those people crush it. It's like things change, we adapt. Things that are viewed negatively become more popular and sometimes they have enormous financial windfalls behind them. And I think when you look at the transfer portal, it wasn't long ago when this thing didn't exist that if you move schools, it was viewed as like I couldn't cut it, he couldn't get it done. And for the most part, it tended to be a red flag. And part of it was if you were forced to transfer, whether it was because you couldn't play at that school or because you were seeking a better opportunity, it was not advantageous to your career, like you had to sit out a season, and if you had red shirted, like if you've gone to Texas, if you've gone to USC, if you've gone wherever, Fresno State, Boise State, you name it, and you red shirted and then tried to start the following year and didn't cut it and then wanted to transfer your red shirt sophomore season, you had to burn your third year and it just didn't count for anything, but you were not allowed to play well. Obviously, the transfer portal has changed everything and cam Ward who all signs, and I mean every sign point to him being the number one overall pick, and within the next month plus he will be the starting quarterback for the Tennessee Titans and him and I think last year we saw the first true windfall of the quote unquote transfer portal quarter and this year is going to follow that group extremely I mean basically the same thing. And I don't think anymore this is that weird. It actually, if you have the opportunity to jump, unless you are in an ideal situation, kind of feels like a no brainer. Let's look at cam Ward, who is actually on his third school of his career, right incarnate word. I've texted a couple people. I haven't quite got the breakdown how he ended up at such a small school but then made the jump to Washington State and it changed his life. And by the end of last year he was the number one guy in the transfer portal and got paid millions of dollars to go to the University of Miami. It's funny. Someone in my DMS the other day was like, middle cough, you throw around some of these numbers with college athletes, Like, bro, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. That's it's not correct, No way these guys are making that much money. Yes, guys, they are making that much money. I actually talked to someone today who is in the college football world, and I mean very tight end tight end, and he told me about He didn't tell me the school, but he was at a program with the head coach and the coach was telling him that in the quarterback room they had multiple seven figure quarterbacks and this was not Texas. And that doesn't just include the salary. That includes houses that come with it, cars that come with it. The money for regular players. Starting players obviously varies right could go from one hundred grand to seven hundred and eight hundred grand, but when it comes to quarterbacks, the going rate is seven figures. And so when Cam Wored transferred last year, we don't have the exact details, this is in the NFL, but he got paid well over a million dollars to go to the University of Miami and it changed his life because when he went to Miami, he would not have been a first round pick last year, and now he is going to be the number one overall pick. So he got to go to a major program, make a ton of money, and up his draft stock. But I started thinking think about last season Kayleb Williams number one overall pick transferre from Oklahoma to USC with Lincoln Riley. Jayden Daniels transfer from Arizona State to LSU won the Heisman. Both those two guys won the Heisman. Drake May, it was a pretty big story going into his last year at North Carolina when Mac Brown came out and said that people had been dirty, quote unquote dirty recruiting Drake May and offering him millions of dollars to transfer. Well, it was pretty clear. It's like Bryce Young just went pros probably Alabama, you know, or you know, schools in the SEC were offering him huge money. Now he decided to stay, but it wasn't for a lack of opportunity to leave. Michael Pennix went eighth overall, left Indiana to go to Washington. A couple of years later, he's in the Heisman mix. They're in the national championship. JJ McCarthy somewhat unique because his team was so stacked, didn't need to leave, got paid at Jim Harbaugh. Bo Nicks went from Auburn to Oregon. All these guys that transferred not only made millions of dollars, their draft stock went like this. And then you look at this season. Cam Ward went from Washington State, where he was a very intriguing prospect. I do believe if he would have came out last year, would have gone somewhere between pick forty and seventy. He would have been a second day pick, but he would not have been the number one overall pick. And then you look at Shadoor Sanders a little different because obviously he's playing for his dad, but played at multiple different schools, and if Dion hadn't existed in Shadour was just Shadoor Sanders, not related to Deon Sanders. Probably a pretty high probability that he transferred during his career, even if he didn't start at Jackson State, Let's just say he started it like North Carolina State. Look at the guy probably going third jack and dark thirty. You know of this class usc Ole miss Think about the two guys in the National championship, Riley Leonard and Will Howard transfer quarterbacks, Kyle McCord transfer quarterbacks. All these guys move and improve their draft stock. So where it used to be looked at very negatively, just because that was just the uh conventional wisdom. If you moved, something was wrong, and a lot of time that was true. It's like, well, you just he couldn't start at Pete Carroll's, USC couldn't cut it at mac Brown's Texas saving too much form right now, there are individual examples of guys moving on and becoming really good players. It definitely happened, but for the most part it was on the other side of the ledger. Something was off, and in my experience, you like stayed away from those guys. Now, not only do you embrace it, you completely understand why they left. It's like, yeah, they are offering you a better opportunity and money and for all these other positions. It's clearly that there is no guarantee when you leave for the quarterbacks. Now, if you can upgrade schools, like it's a double whammy because you cash in in the short term and the long term. We have a couple of years of data now and we'll see how this draft class kind of plays out. And I'm not even just talking about the top guys. I'm talking about seven to eight of them, but it's pretty clear it is the move. So you know, Drake May is a good example. He ended up getting going three overall. Ultimately, like he's in a good spot now with Rabel stable organization, you think, but there is a chance if he had pulled the trigger and transferred to let's say Alabama last year, and then the starting quarterback in Nick Saban's last year, who say he couldn't have gone one overall? Jayden Daniels is a great example. When he transferred from Arizona State, I thought the guy was like a fringe draft pick. Even his first year at LSU there was a huge work in progress, and by the end you're talking about a no brainer, top five pick, and now it looks like he's going to be a superstar in the NFL. So that the transfer portal when it comes to quarterbacks, it's it's not only health these guys draft stock, but I actually think it's really really improved college football. It's made it much more interesting having these guys move to just top programs. So I just if you are a kid in college football right now and people come colin at that position, and you have an opportunity to not only make way more money, but go to a program in a brighter life situation, the data is pretty clearly on your side, you probably want to say yes. Pooka Nakua was quoted in a USA Today article I love Pookaakua. I mean ever since that guy came into the NFL, I'd be lying if I knew much about him in college. You know, BYU Washington guy transfer portal has become a star in the NFL. Like, there is not a soul that in that includes Sean McVay unless need that thought he'd be this good like he is. He's really good. I mean, he's one of the few guys like the way he's talked about, like yeah, he's he's that good. I mean, this guy's a total package. And he basically had a quote today of saying like he wants to retire at age thirty, which would essentially give him ten years in the NFL. He's twenty three years old going into year three and basically looking at Aaron Donald as someone to aspire to be, like, have a great career, make some money, win at a high level, produce at a high level, be really successful, and then get out before your body falls apart. And it got me thinking, is he alone? Are there going to be a lot of guys who think like this and make this decision, you know, in the future, by the time some of these guys get to to their late twenties early thirties. These wide receivers, these pass rushers, these offensive tackles, they are gonna have NBA money. Look at Justin Jefferson by the time, by the time he's thirty years old, he'll have probably accumulated a hundred fifty million dollars. Where you know, twenty thirty years ago, even if you were rich relative to society, it wasn't just like, no matter what, it'd be really hard to screw this thing up. That's not going to be the case for the Puka Nakua generation. I mean, whatever contract Puka, assuming that he stays healthy next year and has another big season, he is going to get a ton of money. And it got me thinking like, could this start happening, Could like the Andrew Luck, Aaron Donald, Calvin Johnson thing become something that is more consistent in the NFL recently, For those of you that don't follow golf, there is this thing called the Champions Tour. It's where people over fifty that were really good get a chance to keep playing. Now the money is not the same, but you basically have to compete against your peers and still make hundreds of thousands of dollars and get your juices flowing. And while Tiger Tiger's not technically eligible yet, he will be in a year or two. But anyone that saw on the internet that he's head over heels in love, that maybe just love out does golf. And I don't even know if his body works. But there are a ton of guys on the Champions Tour that made millions of dollars and that are consistent frequent players on the Champions Tour. And Rory McElroy recently made a comment he said, I'm thirty five years old now there is no chance, under no circumstances will I play on that tour. When I'm fifty, I'll be Donzo And a lot of guys like Ernie Els, who was a peer of Tiger Woods, who is really rich. I mean, I would imagine he's worth well over one hundred million dollars, has done very very well for himself over the course of his professional life. Took offense to it and said, it's easy to say when you're young these comments. Wait till you're our age and you want to get those juices flowing, no matter how success full you are and how much money you make off the course or off the field, and what business ventures you get. There is nothing to get your juices flowing like playing. And while I think it's easy for Puka Nakua to say, like I want to do this, there isn't anything in life that will give you that rush of running out the tunnel and playing on a Sunday. Plus, there aren't many jobs that even as you come back to Earth. Look at his running mate and peer, Cooper Cup whose career kind of got derailed because of injuries. Isn't the same player he could have been, Like, you know what, I'm out. I've made a ton of money, I've had an incredible career, see you later. But he just got three years now. I don't I don't have his contract up, but let's just say he'll make another ten, fifteen to twenty million dollars playing for the Seattle Seahawks. You're not getting that money in the real world. So I think these comments for every Aaron Donald and Calvin Johnson. I know their circumstances were much different. It's always easy to say things when you're young. We've all done it, and then you get older. I'm sure I said things when I was twenty five or thirty years old that I look back and I can't relate to or think like, God, I was I was ignorant, I was naive. I didn't quite understand because you can't because you're young. And then as you get older and you look at things from a much different view, you go, yeah, I probably didn't mean that, and I don't think this is going to become a thing. And if I was a betting man right now, assuming he stays healthy, and the thing with football, you never know, I'll be stunned if he actually does it, if you can still play at a high level, because by then just being a rotational wide receiver at thirty years old might pay ten million dollars just to be like a good veteran presence, to be a high level guy, to have a And when you're competitive and you like to compete, there is no high like when those lights are on. There really isn't. Sometimes people ask me like, did you ever think about going back? I'm like, no, not really, do you miss anything? Of course, I mean I was meant to do what I'm doing. I truly believe that. But there is something cool about game day, and you know, a lot of the quarterbacks that retire. Say, listen, I don't miss a lot of it because it is a grind, but there is nothing quite like playing the game. Okay, let's dive into a couple of quick things here on college sports. I saw something on the internet today that it was pretty cool. It was college wrestling and Daniel Cormier, who longtime UFC guy, was on the call for ESPN does stuff here at the volume and his excitement level just blew me away. I didn't even know that the college wrestling Championships were going on or the magnitude of actually what happened. And it turns out that this dude from Oklahoma State Wyatt Hendrickson upset this guy named Gable Stevenson now Gable Stevenson. This is the heavyweight matches had hadn't lost in like seventy three college matches, had already won gold medals, had fought in the WWE like this guy was one of the most legendary figures, I guess, in the history of college wrestling and was almost viewed as unbeatable, and this guy took him down and it was pretty incredible. It was. If you haven't seen it, type it into the internet and watch it well, and I've told this before when I went to cal Pauly in my year and in my class was Chad Mendes, and my college roommate, Aaron Warshowski, actually roomed with him or with the wrestlers because he was like an early enrollee before our freshman year. So I don't pretend to be friends with Chad or anything, but I was around him a little bit at times in college, and I had never been around wrestlers, and by our senior year, and obviously if you follow UFC, Chad went on to UFC. He fought McGregor, he fought although like he was a pretty accomplished UFC fighter, and as a wrestler, I think his senior year he lost in the national championship at whatever his weight class was like one. And I remember for the first time in my life being around wrestlers and learning that like the baddest dudes on any campus, I don't care whether you're at Penn State, whether you're at cal Pauly, whether you're at Oklahoma State or not the football players. It's the three or four crazy wrestlers. And Chad used to get in fights in college, and whether you were six', five three hundred pounds or just a normal. Human he would annihilate you and clearly went on to THE ufc and just was not only one of the tougher GUYS i Think i've ever been, around but obviously one of the most skilled. Fighters, well WHEN i was, LIKE i need to get a jo in, sports so my third or fourth year in, college went to school for five. 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GUY i think he lost ten times in his entire college, career and six of them were to like the Guy Kale, SUNERSON i might be screwing up his last, name who's like one of the most legendary college wrestlers who's now was the wrestling COACH i think In iowa Or Iowa state. Forever he's now At Penn. State like just LEGEND i, mean all these, guys you wouldn't fuck with any of. Them AND i remember being When Oklahoma state got there and this one guy and they were just every single guy destroyed everyone at Cal. Pauly but one GUY i remember. Watching his name Was Johnny hendrix and a lot of. Hype it was like watching the it was Like Cooper flag of, wrestling AND i remember watching him and like again Cal pauly was a decent wrestling. Program he treated this guy like an older brother treats a younger brother that's like seven years younger in. Him he was just slamming them all over the. Place i'm, like these guys are in a different universe of the ability to. 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What is going on everybody? How are we doing John middlecop Three and Out Podcast. Hopefully everyone is having a great day out there on the mean streets of real life. And we're here to podcast because that's what we do here in the three and Out Podcast. And today I do want to dive into, uh, not just cam Ward who had his pro day, but just in general, what we've seen this last draft, which was very transferred portal heavy, and what we expect in this upcoming draft, which all the quarterbacks and the transfer portal have become synonymous with each other and to incredible success. Pooka and Akua had some comments today about retiring early. I do want to dive into that incredible moment on the internet. I saw what happened on television, what happened in real life, but I saw it on the internet. It was on television, the wrestling upset that happened at the National Championship. Daniel Cormier was there calling it legendary. Guy got beat. And of course, the Middlecoff Mailbag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire into those dms and get your questions answered here on the show at John Middlecoff is the Instagram, Fire in those dms and get your questions answered. Here on the show, we will do a mailbag and that will be the game plan for today. So we'll talk a little football. We'll do a little mailbag. Well, we'll talk a little more football, and yeah, we'll kind of go from there. So we did a podcast yesterday. You can see that recorded on Sunday for Monday, and then obviously this one. So a couple of podcasts so far this week. But before we dive into some football, I do need to tell you about my friends, my partners, and the official ticketing app of this podcast. Listen, we have the Sweet sixteen Thursday and Friday. So do you live in one of these areas? We got the NBA playoffs right around the corner. We got the NHL playoffs right around the corner. We got baseball starting all over the country, and obviously it goes for like fifteen months because it's a long season, so it's all summer long. If you want to go to event. I saw this clip on the the internet the other day, someone talking about work life balance, and listen, most of us struggle with this and sometimes the older you get, you can get into a routine. Every once in a while, you need to shatter that routine and get out on a Thursday night, a Friday night, a Saturday night. Whether it's taking your child, taking your wife, taking a good friend, taking a brother, taking a sister, go enjoy yourself and do it on us any event, concert, comedy show as well. Take the guesswork out of buying tickets with game Time. Download the game Time app, create an account and use the code John for twenty dollars off your first purchase terms apply again. Create an account and redeem the code John for twenty dollars off. Down to the game Time app today last minute tickets, lowest prices gearan. It's funny how things are viewed a certain way and then over time that dramatically changes. And I think when you look at the landscape of college sports forever, if you were changing schools, it was usually a red flag. Hell I remember growing up, it's like my dad's like put down the video games, pick up a book, and now people watch other people play video games, streaming and YouTube, and those people crush it. It's like things change, we adapt. Things that are viewed negatively become more popular and sometimes they have enormous financial windfalls behind them. And I think when you look at the transfer portal, it wasn't long ago when this thing didn't exist that if you move schools, it was viewed as like I couldn't cut it, he couldn't get it done. And for the most part, it tended to be a red flag. And part of it was if you were forced to transfer, whether it was because you couldn't play at that school or because you were seeking a better opportunity, it was not advantageous to your career, like you had to sit out a season, and if you had red shirted, like if you've gone to Texas, if you've gone to USC, if you've gone wherever, Fresno State, Boise State, you name it, and you red shirted and then tried to start the following year and didn't cut it and then wanted to transfer your red shirt sophomore season, you had to burn your third year and it just didn't count for anything, but you were not allowed to play well. Obviously, the transfer portal has changed everything and cam Ward who all signs, and I mean every sign point to him being the number one overall pick, and within the next month plus he will be the starting quarterback for the Tennessee Titans and him and I think last year we saw the first true windfall of the quote unquote transfer portal quarter and this year is going to follow that group extremely I mean basically the same thing. And I don't think anymore this is that weird. It actually, if you have the opportunity to jump, unless you are in an ideal situation, kind of feels like a no brainer. Let's look at cam Ward, who is actually on his third school of his career, right incarnate word. I've texted a couple people. I haven't quite got the breakdown how he ended up at such a small school but then made the jump to Washington State and it changed his life. And by the end of last year he was the number one guy in the transfer portal and got paid millions of dollars to go to the University of Miami. It's funny. Someone in my DMS the other day was like, middle cough, you throw around some of these numbers with college athletes, Like, bro, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. That's it's not correct, No way these guys are making that much money. Yes, guys, they are making that much money. I actually talked to someone today who is in the college football world, and I mean very tight end tight end, and he told me about He didn't tell me the school, but he was at a program with the head coach and the coach was telling him that in the quarterback room they had multiple seven figure quarterbacks and this was not Texas. And that doesn't just include the salary. That includes houses that come with it, cars that come with it. The money for regular players. Starting players obviously varies right could go from one hundred grand to seven hundred and eight hundred grand, but when it comes to quarterbacks, the going rate is seven figures. And so when Cam Wored transferred last year, we don't have the exact details, this is in the NFL, but he got paid well over a million dollars to go to the University of Miami and it changed his life because when he went to Miami, he would not have been a first round pick last year, and now he is going to be the number one overall pick. So he got to go to a major program, make a ton of money, and up his draft stock. But I started thinking think about last season Kayleb Williams number one overall pick transferre from Oklahoma to USC with Lincoln Riley. Jayden Daniels transfer from Arizona State to LSU won the Heisman. Both those two guys won the Heisman. Drake May, it was a pretty big story going into his last year at North Carolina when Mac Brown came out and said that people had been dirty, quote unquote dirty recruiting Drake May and offering him millions of dollars to transfer. Well, it was pretty clear. It's like Bryce Young just went pros probably Alabama, you know, or you know, schools in the SEC were offering him huge money. Now he decided to stay, but it wasn't for a lack of opportunity to leave. Michael Pennix went eighth overall, left Indiana to go to Washington. A couple of years later, he's in the Heisman mix. They're in the national championship. JJ McCarthy somewhat unique because his team was so stacked, didn't need to leave, got paid at Jim Harbaugh. Bo Nicks went from Auburn to Oregon. All these guys that transferred not only made millions of dollars, their draft stock went like this. And then you look at this season. Cam Ward went from Washington State, where he was a very intriguing prospect. I do believe if he would have came out last year, would have gone somewhere between pick forty and seventy. He would have been a second day pick, but he would not have been the number one overall pick. And then you look at Shadoor Sanders a little different because obviously he's playing for his dad, but played at multiple different schools, and if Dion hadn't existed in Shadour was just Shadoor Sanders, not related to Deon Sanders. Probably a pretty high probability that he transferred during his career, even if he didn't start at Jackson State, Let's just say he started it like North Carolina State. Look at the guy probably going third jack and dark thirty. You know of this class usc Ole miss Think about the two guys in the National championship, Riley Leonard and Will Howard transfer quarterbacks, Kyle McCord transfer quarterbacks. All these guys move and improve their draft stock. So where it used to be looked at very negatively, just because that was just the uh conventional wisdom. If you moved, something was wrong, and a lot of time that was true. It's like, well, you just he couldn't start at Pete Carroll's, USC couldn't cut it at mac Brown's Texas saving too much form right now, there are individual examples of guys moving on and becoming really good players. It definitely happened, but for the most part it was on the other side of the ledger. Something was off, and in my experience, you like stayed away from those guys. Now, not only do you embrace it, you completely understand why they left. It's like, yeah, they are offering you a better opportunity and money and for all these other positions. It's clearly that there is no guarantee when you leave for the quarterbacks. Now, if you can upgrade schools, like it's a double whammy because you cash in in the short term and the long term. We have a couple of years of data now and we'll see how this draft class kind of plays out. And I'm not even just talking about the top guys. I'm talking about seven to eight of them, but it's pretty clear it is the move. So you know, Drake May is a good example. He ended up getting going three overall. Ultimately, like he's in a good spot now with Rabel stable organization, you think, but there is a chance if he had pulled the trigger and transferred to let's say Alabama last year, and then the starting quarterback in Nick Saban's last year, who say he couldn't have gone one overall? Jayden Daniels is a great example. When he transferred from Arizona State, I thought the guy was like a fringe draft pick. Even his first year at LSU there was a huge work in progress, and by the end you're talking about a no brainer, top five pick, and now it looks like he's going to be a superstar in the NFL. So that the transfer portal when it comes to quarterbacks, it's it's not only health these guys draft stock, but I actually think it's really really improved college football. It's made it much more interesting having these guys move to just top programs. So I just if you are a kid in college football right now and people come colin at that position, and you have an opportunity to not only make way more money, but go to a program in a brighter life situation, the data is pretty clearly on your side, you probably want to say yes. Pooka Nakua was quoted in a USA Today article I love Pookaakua. I mean ever since that guy came into the NFL, I'd be lying if I knew much about him in college. You know, BYU Washington guy transfer portal has become a star in the NFL. Like, there is not a soul that in that includes Sean McVay unless need that thought he'd be this good like he is. He's really good. I mean, he's one of the few guys like the way he's talked about, like yeah, he's he's that good. I mean, this guy's a total package. And he basically had a quote today of saying like he wants to retire at age thirty, which would essentially give him ten years in the NFL. He's twenty three years old going into year three and basically looking at Aaron Donald as someone to aspire to be, like, have a great career, make some money, win at a high level, produce at a high level, be really successful, and then get out before your body falls apart. And it got me thinking, is he alone? Are there going to be a lot of guys who think like this and make this decision, you know, in the future, by the time some of these guys get to to their late twenties early thirties. These wide receivers, these pass rushers, these offensive tackles, they are gonna have NBA money. Look at Justin Jefferson by the time, by the time he's thirty years old, he'll have probably accumulated a hundred fifty million dollars. Where you know, twenty thirty years ago, even if you were rich relative to society, it wasn't just like, no matter what, it'd be really hard to screw this thing up. That's not going to be the case for the Puka Nakua generation. I mean, whatever contract Puka, assuming that he stays healthy next year and has another big season, he is going to get a ton of money. And it got me thinking like, could this start happening, Could like the Andrew Luck, Aaron Donald, Calvin Johnson thing become something that is more consistent in the NFL recently, For those of you that don't follow golf, there is this thing called the Champions Tour. It's where people over fifty that were really good get a chance to keep playing. Now the money is not the same, but you basically have to compete against your peers and still make hundreds of thousands of dollars and get your juices flowing. And while Tiger Tiger's not technically eligible yet, he will be in a year or two. But anyone that saw on the internet that he's head over heels in love, that maybe just love out does golf. And I don't even know if his body works. But there are a ton of guys on the Champions Tour that made millions of dollars and that are consistent frequent players on the Champions Tour. And Rory McElroy recently made a comment he said, I'm thirty five years old now there is no chance, under no circumstances will I play on that tour. When I'm fifty, I'll be Donzo And a lot of guys like Ernie Els, who was a peer of Tiger Woods, who is really rich. I mean, I would imagine he's worth well over one hundred million dollars, has done very very well for himself over the course of his professional life. Took offense to it and said, it's easy to say when you're young these comments. Wait till you're our age and you want to get those juices flowing, no matter how success full you are and how much money you make off the course or off the field, and what business ventures you get. There is nothing to get your juices flowing like playing. And while I think it's easy for Puka Nakua to say, like I want to do this, there isn't anything in life that will give you that rush of running out the tunnel and playing on a Sunday. Plus, there aren't many jobs that even as you come back to Earth. Look at his running mate and peer, Cooper Cup whose career kind of got derailed because of injuries. Isn't the same player he could have been, Like, you know what, I'm out. I've made a ton of money, I've had an incredible career, see you later. But he just got three years now. I don't I don't have his contract up, but let's just say he'll make another ten, fifteen to twenty million dollars playing for the Seattle Seahawks. You're not getting that money in the real world. So I think these comments for every Aaron Donald and Calvin Johnson. I know their circumstances were much different. It's always easy to say things when you're young. We've all done it, and then you get older. I'm sure I said things when I was twenty five or thirty years old that I look back and I can't relate to or think like, God, I was I was ignorant, I was naive. I didn't quite understand because you can't because you're young. And then as you get older and you look at things from a much different view, you go, yeah, I probably didn't mean that, and I don't think this is going to become a thing. And if I was a betting man right now, assuming he stays healthy, and the thing with football, you never know, I'll be stunned if he actually does it, if you can still play at a high level, because by then just being a rotational wide receiver at thirty years old might pay ten million dollars just to be like a good veteran presence, to be a high level guy, to have a And when you're competitive and you like to compete, there is no high like when those lights are on. There really isn't. Sometimes people ask me like, did you ever think about going back? I'm like, no, not really, do you miss anything? Of course, I mean I was meant to do what I'm doing. I truly believe that. But there is something cool about game day, and you know, a lot of the quarterbacks that retire. Say, listen, I don't miss a lot of it because it is a grind, but there is nothing quite like playing the game. Okay, let's dive into a couple of quick things here on college sports. I saw something on the internet today that it was pretty cool. It was college wrestling and Daniel Cormier, who longtime UFC guy, was on the call for ESPN does stuff here at the volume and his excitement level just blew me away. I didn't even know that the college wrestling Championships were going on or the magnitude of actually what happened. And it turns out that this dude from Oklahoma State Wyatt Hendrickson upset this guy named Gable Stevenson now Gable Stevenson. This is the heavyweight matches had hadn't lost in like seventy three college matches, had already won gold medals, had fought in the WWE like this guy was one of the most legendary figures, I guess, in the history of college wrestling and was almost viewed as unbeatable, and this guy took him down and it was pretty incredible. It was. If you haven't seen it, type it into the internet and watch it well, and I've told this before when I went to cal Pauly in my year and in my class was Chad Mendes, and my college roommate, Aaron Warshowski, actually roomed with him or with the wrestlers because he was like an early enrollee before our freshman year. So I don't pretend to be friends with Chad or anything, but I was around him a little bit at times in college, and I had never been around wrestlers, and by our senior year, and obviously if you follow UFC, Chad went on to UFC. He fought McGregor, he fought although like he was a pretty accomplished UFC fighter, and as a wrestler, I think his senior year he lost in the national championship at whatever his weight class was like one. And I remember for the first time in my life being around wrestlers and learning that like the baddest dudes on any campus, I don't care whether you're at Penn State, whether you're at cal Pauly, whether you're at Oklahoma State or not the football players. It's the three or four crazy wrestlers. And Chad used to get in fights in college, and whether you were six', five three hundred pounds or just a normal. Human he would annihilate you and clearly went on to THE ufc and just was not only one of the tougher GUYS i Think i've ever been, around but obviously one of the most skilled. Fighters, well WHEN i was, LIKE i need to get a jo in, sports so my third or fourth year in, college went to school for five. Years my parents' neighbor In davis worked AT Uc davis in the athletic, department and she helped like call the ad at Cal pauly and got me an interview and again Cal Pauly. ATHLETICS i, mean this isn't exactly Like, texas so you just walk right. In there's not much going. On SO i probably could have just knocked on her door. Myself When i'm, YOUNG i don't really know, anything and they hired me to do some like bs AND i would just like help out and do some different. Stuff EVENTUALLY i got like the coolest job on. Campus my job at our baseball. Stadium we had an area that had. Beer we had like multiple kegs and hot, dogs and if you had a ticket to get, in everything was. Free you could drink as much as you, want and you could eat as many hot dogs as you. Want and they also have, peanuts so they had free, beer, peanuts hot. Dogs and my job was to take your ticket to get in because you need to special. Ticket so all my friends for a COUPLE i had that. Job like junior and senior year of. College everyone would come, in my. Friends he had to be a little. Careful every once in a, while like the assistant ad would be close AND i kind of give my buddies the, wink tell him not to come. In but for the most, part my people got in and they would just get. Annihilated you, know three game series Like friday And saturday. Night great time to go just booze before you went out for. Free BUT i also like would help out like basketball and wrestling. Stuff AND i remember going to a wrestling match AND i remember watching this Guy Oklahoma state came out to Calp pauly and this is Where wyatt ended up beating this guy who's A Oklahoma state. Wrestler turns out and went on a deep. Dive Daniel cormier also was An Oklahoma state. GUY i think he lost ten times in his entire college, career and six of them were to like the Guy Kale, SUNERSON i might be screwing up his last, name who's like one of the most legendary college wrestlers who's now was the wrestling COACH i think In iowa Or Iowa state. Forever he's now At Penn. State like just LEGEND i, mean all these, guys you wouldn't fuck with any of. Them AND i remember being When Oklahoma state got there and this one guy and they were just every single guy destroyed everyone at Cal. Pauly but one GUY i remember. Watching his name Was Johnny hendrix and a lot of. Hype it was like watching the it was Like Cooper flag of, wrestling AND i remember watching him and like again Cal pauly was a decent wrestling. Program he treated this guy like an older brother treats a younger brother that's like seven years younger in. Him he was just slamming them all over the. Place i'm, like these guys are in a different universe of the ability to. Fight And Johnny, hendrix Like Chad mendez went on too THE. UFC i, mean these guys were the cream of the. Crops so WHEN i see this, heavyweight these two guys going at. IT i can't imagine how tough these guys actually, are because all these guys are on a direct path To Dana white to fight in the. Octagon, now it doesn't mean they're gonna be great fighters in the, octagon but their skills and anyone who have gone to any schools with a legit wrestling program knows you do not fuck with those. Guys. Ever no matter if it's one hundred and thirty, pounder it's easy to stay away from the cauliflower ear guy that weighs two hundred and ten. Pounds it's another. Thing you're, like, wait another dude is like five to. Five he was one of the national champions this weekend is dating a GIRL i forget what school he goes to on the volleyball, team who's six foot. Three so he runs over to, her gives her a huge hug and a. Kiss she's towering. 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Word but being a quarterback is about much more than just on the. Field you become the face of the. Organization and we saw last year my, Guy Adam peters took a lot of heat because he brought all the quarterbacks not Named Caleb williams To Top, golf and he brought him all in at the same time when he brought him on the quote Unquote top thirty. Visit even though his job because clearly several of them could really, play, honestly all of them, could and was to determine what guy did he like the, most because all of them can throw an out, route some are faster than. Others but who do you believe can be the best leader of your? Organization who can handle the, pressure who can handle the ups and the downs of being AN nfl. Quarterback, well anyone listening to this who has ever been a part of an interview, situation whether you are the decision maker or you're involved in the, process or when you're on the other side and you're interviewing in front of a lot of, people you know that it's a pretty intense, environment and people try to lighten the. Mood but like when you're talking about a decision as big as the number one overall, pick And i'm not just talking the thirty five to forty million dollars that you're gonna of. Them, ideally when you pull the trigger here when you're The, titans it's about having my quarterback for the next, decade for the next fifteen, years to be the face of the. Franchise and you look at The. Titans their general manager comes From Kansas, city who just spent a lot of time Around Patrick mahomes and who before, that they had a lot of success With Alex, smith so he has a pretty good feel For obviously the, PLAYER i, mean both those two players were very. Different Obviously patrick's a better, player but the people In Brian callahan before he got The titans, job spent years Around Joe Burrow. Well the night before the pro, day The titans brass, COACHES Oc quarterback, COACH gm, ASSISTANT gm assistant scouts all went to dinner with Cam. Ward and while we won't talk that much about it because the sweet throws that he had in shorts AND t shirts will go, viral that, moment which is not going to be, public is very important because after that, dinner they already went in thinking they're gonna take, them and they've scouted them pretty, heavily but really spending time around the human being and getting a better feel for his outlook on, life what he, values what he does, not really helps. Crystallize AND i bet after they make the decision here in an upcoming, month they will, say we felt really good about him on film and the player that he, Was but after that dinner is when it crystallized for, us and that's when the final decision was. 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Puzzle as a former, Scout i'm curious how much stock you take in a guy's metrics and which ones you think are. IMPORTANT i think the number one key to the, scores right like where you rank at your position group historically are. Comps so IF i get a guy THAT i think is an excellent, prospect let's just, say like a second, rounder but his measurables and his test scores are not, Good, well you, go, well who is his? Comparison has anyone with these test scores of hight, weight, speed, agility you name its have never met these. Numbers we got to do some reevaluation and vice, versa BECAUSE i think a lot of times you got a lot of good athletes to play in college. Football so some guys might not be great football, players but they do the testing and they're really. Good and sometimes those people are poor coaching in college for whatever, reason it never. Materialized and you can be open to taking those guys late in the. Draft but how often do we see in the first couple of rounds where you, go this guy wasn't that good in, college but he tests. Well AND i also think certain individuals set off alarms when you're just kind of a mid, prospect like you're maybe a draftable guy and then you test really. Well SO i think it just forces you to re evaluate. Stuff but, like there are some scores that. Matter you can't be a four to seven, corner like that's not gonna. Work you can't have really really short arms in play. Tackle it's gonna be, impossible, Right and there's a line of, like well are Will campbell's too short or Are there been a couple examples of him being able to do, it and he's probably right on the, edge just like small. Hands small hands at quarterback aren't the end all be, all but you do see it come Up Rock. Purty small hands struggles to hold the ball in inclement. Weather Jared, goff same, Thing Derek, carr same. Thing it's harder to hold the ball in a driving rainstorm if your hands aren't as. Big, now that doesn't mean you can't be good or be, successful BUT i think and then there are also guys that are just really good, players but they're just a six foot d tackle, Right but if you watch them on, tape Like, jesus and then you end up getting that guy in the third or fourth. Round SO i think the scores are almost like a you, KNOW i use the housing analogy a, lot but like they are the check marks of different things like how many square foot your, house how many, bedrooms how many, bathrooms how big is your. Garage it doesn't mean it might not check all those. Boxes it may be a great, house just like some of your scores and some of your measurables might not be. Great but if you're good on, tape, like, yeah we'll draft, you but you might not get. Drafted is High in the best case, scenario you check both. Boxes you're an elite player and your measurables and testing scores are out of this. World SO i don't, think, listen this is this is difficult because you're dealing with human beings and at the end of the, day there's no way to measure who's got that dog in. Them and that separates a lot of guys because by the, TIME i mean we're talking about a, guy, listen the end of a draft is a, crapshoot the sixth seventh. Round but when you're talking about the top one hundred guys in a, draft like most of them have played at a really high, level have produced meet a lot of, measurables like what separates those guys over the course of the next seven eight. YEARS a lot of, variables and if people had the, answers they would never. Miss SO i think they try to take all those ingredients of the tape is always going to be the most important. Thing the, scores the, interviews the, interactions what people have said about you from a scouting, standpoint your, coaches your assistant, coaches your, coordinators your, teammates your hell you're acting, advisors, Right so you just try to factor that all in and make the best decision possible because for the most, part especially once you get out of the first, round like there are gonna be question marks with every. Player they're gonna be question marks with every, player and there are question marks with first round players. Too but the longer you, go like once you're picking in the late, second, third fourth, round you could pick typically between several guys at every. Spot it's hard and you just try to make the most educated guess you can. Make it's WHY i think teams that draft really well have a really good feel for the type people they. Like like The, ravens they know what they're looking, for, Right The chiefs have a pretty good idea what they're looking. For The rams now feels like they're pretty dialed on the human as much as the. Player can you make it make. SENSE i live in a state where you cannot gamble on the, games BUT i can gamble If luca will score thirty, points or IF i think AN nfl quarterback will throw a bunch of. Interceptions why is it legal for that to be allowed for us to gamble on, that but not the actual. GAMES i don't, know, MAN i THINK i THINK i know the companies you're talking. About i've lived In arizona now for whatever three, years SO i have no issues with The DraftKings app used it a. LOT i think they've been able to like fall under the fantasy football, category which it's not fantasy football betting on HOW i mean THAT'S i can gamble on that, too On, DraftKings, RIGHT i. DO i do, props you can do over. Unders i've tried a couple times on basketball points And i've never got it. Right, like, Oh Steph curry twenty two point, Five i'll hit this, easy and then he's, like going into the last five, minutes he's got like sixteen. Points But i'm with, you it's pretty. Stupid another quick. Question i've been hearing a lot of concerns About genti's, height but his height really big factor at running. Back if, anything wouldn't you want my running? BACK i wouldn't want my running back to be too tall because he would get tackled. Easily genti being five eight could be an advantage because his lower center of. Gravity you see the way he bounces off. TACKLES i just feel IF i was A, GM i would look at a few other factors before. HEIGHT a lot of the greatest running backs of all time aren't even six. Foot, again this gets back to that score. Thing you'd have to look in the history of THE. Nfl when's the last time a guy under five to nine dominated it running back and got drafted really. High there aren't that many, comps so WHEN i look at he's. Smaller but one guy THAT i look back at Was Darren, sproulls who was a dominant college. Player who IS i, mean his junior year At Kansas state ran for two thousand yards and sixteen. Touchdowns Hell is sophomore year ran fifteen hundred yards and seventeen. Touchdowns his last three years he had forty six. Touchdowns and that's just rushing the. Ball and he's he's smaller than genty he's five foot, six but like was an elite, player and we discriminated a lot more twenty years ago against Hythe but he went the fourth. Round now modern, day Because sprowls could, catch he would go ON i, mean he would go on the second day of the. Draft but you look at these comps you, Go we'll think of the star running backs in THE nfl just over the last like twenty, Years, Ladanian, Tomlinson Marshall, Falk Adrian, Peterson sakuon. McCaffrey you just look at some of the. Guys they weren't, short, like they weren't five to eight. Short now they might be five ten or five. Eleven i'm with, you don't need to Be Derreck. Henry you don't need to Be Adrian. Peterson but genty is closer To Darren sprolls than he Is Saquon. Barkley and the other thing is all these Guys i'm listening, Right Adrian, Peterson Saquon, Barkley christian, McCaffrey Be John. Robinson they played AGAINST nfl players most. Weeks jenti for the most part was just playing Against New mexico And President. State now he had a great game Against, oregon so that really works in his. Favor but if you want to take him in the first, Round i'm not arguing against taking this guy in the first. Round we're. TALKING i get asked about, like should The raiders take him at six? Overall should The bears take him at? Ten, overall AND i just, say, hey we got to pump the. Brakes and, again if he becomes a, superstar no one will say. Anything but if he's just okay or just even just a solid, player that pick will look. Insane and that's my only. TAKE i am. Pro he was my favorite player to watch this. Year he was. AWESOME i went out of my way to Watch Boise state. Play what he was doing was, stupid but like Playing New, mexico Playing San Diego state isn't the same as Playing Penn state every, week and we saw it. Now granted his offensive, line you, know if he would HAVE i would feel much better about gent AND i respect him for doing. This he stayed At boise and as coach even, said he passed up a lot of. MONEY i think they paid him like three hundred, grand which again is a. Lot he was being offered LIKE i think seven figures to go to the sweet, schools the schools like in The final. Four and if he had done what he, did even seventy eighty percent At texas or At alabama or At Ohio state or, WHEREVER i think you would feel much more comment Or oregon much more confident about taking. Him really high because every single week the level of competition and maybe he's proven he's. Awesome now this guy got banged. Up BUT i was around WHEN i was At friend Of State Ryan, matthews who was a fucking tank who was five to, eleven just, JACKED i mean two hundred and twenty pounds and could run a four to four and when he was healthy dominated whoever we. Played and we KNOW i was. There we were playing and The Brian Kelly cincinnati, TEAMS Ucla wisconsin like playing good. Teams Boise, state who at a time was like a top ten, program AND i Think ryan ran for like two hundred dards against. Them but then he got to THE nfl and he got hurt a, lot and maybe he was just a guy that was gonna be injured a, lot or maybe it's, like well he never you, know if he would have played at like in The pac twelve or The big, ten maybe his body would have been more accustomed to. IT i just bring that up BECAUSE i know those are the questions being, asked AND i feel Like i'm gonna come off as a, hater AND i am. NOT i love the, player BUT i think taking him really high in the draft is. Insane it really, is BECAUSE i liked when The lions again bad draft a little like. This And Jamier, gibbs who you, know was five nine and a half two hundred pounds now he ran a four to three. Six so his college production looked nothing Like genty was not nearly as. Good he started At Georgia tech and then WHERE i think he backed Up Jordan, mason who the forty nine ers just traded In, minnesota so he was part and then he transferred To alabama where he was like a you, know part time. Player we played a, lot but didn't run for a thousand, yards but caught forty four. Balls so when you look At Austin, genty WHO i don't think ran at the, COMBINE i don't know when his pro day. Is, yeah he didn't do any of that. Stuff now he's thicker Than, jamir But jamir went twelve elite, speed elite speed and can really catch the. Ball smaller player and a little you, know a little, taller but essentially very similar. Sizes if you tell Me Ashton genty runs a four to three, six you can take him at. TWELVE i have no problem and, listening he's clearly pretty fast fine four SIX nfl combine now. Bad let's how you get drafted a. Twelve now here's the other thing The lions. Did they traded from six to, twelve so they essentially Got gibbs an report without. Day do you think THE nfl of college football is a better business? PERSONALLY i think it's college payroll including nil isn't even. Comparable college football has the same revenue, channels but THE nfl makes dramatically more. Money plus college football is all split, up and college football as it's set up right, NOW i have to give money to women's soccer and men's baseball and. Lacrosse THE nfl makes dramatically, more only has thirty two teams in the, partnership and doesn't give any of the money to any other. Sports there is no such thing As title nine in THE. Nfl title nine is known as the owner's. Yacht so it's they're not comparable. Businesses there are way more teams in, college a lot more teams that don't generate the revenue that get to leach off. It THE nfl is just it's just an incredible business right. Now, Man there's no way around. It talk about this on the pod so he sent me This DraftKings picture Of Rick. Patino how everywhere he went within a couple of, years they. Dominated people often disregard basketball coaches as the least important in. Sports some people are just, different, though and this is an example of why you need to cut checks for certain guys because THE roi is. INSANE i think college, BASKETBALL i think THE nba pushes back on. One baseball would be number. One like the manager doesn't matter in twenty twenty. Five the front office runs the teams and just based on the. Money you, know a baseball manager makes like what a wide receiver coach in college football. Makes but no one's ever argued in. Basketball in College calipari is. THO i, mean look at the coaches in The sweet sixteen coach K Forever. BEHEIM i think college basketball coaches were always really really famous because they were really really. Important SO i hear. YOU i don't think. ANYONE i think it's more of THE. Nba, NOW a good coach matters in THE, nba but you would never remember the. Argument there's like a sports talk radio argument About Brad stevens or a top five. Player this was like a decade. Ago it's like, no you would take the top. Player but even Like Eric, spolstro look At Eric spolster is a bad. Team they. Suck you need good, players you need star. Players in, basketball Has Caler murray reached the ceiling forever being a dynamic player that can't take his team to the next level or do we chalk his limitations up to poor coaching and the lack of supporting. TALENT i think he kind of is what he. IS i just think he's a pretty fickle. Player if you catch him on the right, day he can beat anyone in the. League he can play a half of football that's as good As mahomes Or Josh, Allen Lamar. Jackson when when he's on on individual, drives he is, unstoppable scrambling around making. THROWS i would say he is his talent level is really, high but his consistency level is really. Low and you, know only people around him can really, Tell, like is it? Coaching is it JUST i do think whenever you're really short and this is again the high THING i Heard David. ANDREWS i saw this clip the Former patriots. Center he's like the thing that blows you away when you get to THE nfl is how enormous and he's like WHEN i came into THE, Nfl Peyton, Manning Tom, Brady Carson, Palmer Philip, Rivers Eli, Manning Joe, flacco how huge these quarterbacks. ARE i remember WHEN i Met Carson, PALMER i was, like is this guy AN nba? Player he looks like six.' ten now he was like six but she's. So thick these guys. Are huge And for kyler to be as good as he is at five foot nine is a testament to how elite his just. Athleticism miss and he's got a great. Arm too, sometimes, sure guys you know arm can be hit, Or miss, BUT yeah I think i think he just kind of is what he. IS now i think the question is can you stretch out his good football a? Little LONGER but i don't think he'll ever be in the. ELITE category i think he can have an individual season that is. Pretty dynamic that one the one year when they should have probably won, the division but they. Blew it at, the end he threw twenty. Four touchdowns he actually was really good to start. His career his second year twenty six and twelve in another eleven touchdowns on. The ground his third year and, twenty one twenty, four touchdowns ten picks with five touchdowns on. The ground he's always given you, a, five, three, three. Five eleven his eleven touchdown years a little bit of. An outlier he actually he kind of gets sacked. A lot he missed a lot. Of games so his first two years never. Got hurt, second year missed a. Couple games, THIRD year i think that's when he tears acl and then he. Comes back he actually was durable, last year played in every game they went eight, to nine so he's. Fully healthy last year eight and nine sixty, eight percent so he's. Pretty accurate twenty one. And eleven THEY just i think he'd like a little more explosion. ON offense, i mean that's why They Drafted. MARVIN harrison I think i think he's kind of the. Worst spot Like he's he's definitely better than a lot, Of guys but is he good enough to be paying a ton of money and be a. Franchise quarterback, Probably not but you could do. Way WORSE like, i mean, eight nine some of those were definitely, on him but some of those wins were on. Him too he's just he's a hard to player to kind of like describe which is good and bad if You're a. Cardinal fan As a, seahawk FAN our gm has been heavily criticized for not taking lineman by many people in the, fan base either he's not spending big money in free agency or whiffing on our offensive line. Draft picks as a, former scout what are the most important aspects to look for in scouting interior? Offensive lineman and do you Agree with schneider's free agent philosophy of not reaching? For, need well when you reach in, free agency you gotta pay. A lot SO if I if i'm reaching for, a guard it's gonna cost me twenty two million dollars. A year look At the packers they Just Bought. Aaron Banks aaron banks is like an average starter, at best and they're paying a ton. Of Money so i'm not against his philosophy. AT all i do think with guards and centers. Your scheme now He's. Got kubiak they run a zone, running scheme so they're gonna look for athletes more than. Power maulers and the key with the garter center in the you know kind of the zone running scheme is being able to move your feet and position. Positional, block, now luckily, you know it's easier to find those guys Than Like larry Allen Or logan mankins or you know someone. Like that, BUT like i think a lot of people would tell you that the offensive line development in college has never been worse because when a, guy's decent he gets a bunch, of money he's, moving schools and his development IS just i don't want to say it's been slowed, or stopped but it's just it's not the same as it used to that be so it's it's more difficult. To find and then at the end of, the day like guards, and centers like. D tackles i think the number one thing you would hear talking to, HEAD coaches, GMS coordinators o line coaches, like, toughness, toughness. Mindset toughness, you know the one thing you saw With that eagles run Is like jurgen's back is, Not working dickerson's leg is like, falling off and he like wouldn't come out of. The game and THEN if i, remember correctly Like did jurgensen go back in the game when he? Didn't start And then dickerson, is like, these guys you gotta be tough as nails to play garden CENTER when i Think Of jason Kelsey or i'll. Never FORGET when i WAS a Ga At, fresno State coach Hill Had jim otto talk to. The team i've told this before and he did LIKE a Q and a after he gave like a pump. UP speech i think he passed away pretty recently and someone on the team, asked him like the toughest player he ever? Went against, YOU know i Mean the raiders are playing Like Mean joe green every single year in the in the peak of that rivalry in, The Seventies Mean. JOE green I think wiley considered, one of if not the best. Defensive tackles they also Played The Purple people eaters In The. Super bowl they won. Pretty sure they had a Guy Named, deacon Jones And jim, outo said, by far the toughest Guy that i've ever played against is THE guy i see in the MORNING when i look in. THE mirror i, just think kind of, LIKE wrestlers i need my guards and, centers tough and there's a different level of toughness IN, the nfl and it's just hard. To Quantify the cardinals joke of. A franchise you're, not wrong but they are my TEAM play gm what can they do to. BE relevant i don't think they're a joke of a franchise in the sense of like they got A Real jonathan gannon's a. REAL coach i Think they've. They're not it's more. THE owner i think it's not viewed, very highly but like from a, football standpoint like they got, Good players they've been competitive the last couple of Years. With kyler they've had, some moments you Know with bruce arians and kind like they were a. Real franchise they were really good there for a couple. Of YEARS so i think anytime that you're just like it almost feels like they're in. A relationship, you know you're not gonna, marry her but in a weird you're like, living together so you're essentially married and you can't really break up, with ther but you're kind. Of stuck you don't even like. Each other it's almost like. Your roommates that's kind Of the. KYLER situation i know they've spoken about, it positively, BUT like i think we have to acknowledge like they're in this weird spot, with him and it could get. Way, worse like let's just say they traded him. To whoever let's just say next offseason they trade him because they go eight to nine again and he has a. Similar season they just trade him for like second round pick to move on and. Just reset there's a chance they're way worse at quarterback for. A while, but like that is not going to be. Good enough but think about the best two teams. You've Had carson palmer, was healthy high, end player the one You Were kurt Warner obviously hall. Of FAMER but i think when you're in Business, with kyler it's just a tough spot because you're paying, a premium but you're not always getting. A premium this isn't a, football question but just curious on. Your take i'm twenty four. Years old i'm aspiring, film director currently Living, in nashville but my lease Expires. In january so OFTEN that I hear i should Move To los Angeles Or new york in order to get my foot in the door in. The INDUSTRY but i feel LIKE maybe i don't fully grasp. That advice moving somewhere does not automatically grant, you success? Does it for people who give that kind of advice what do you think they? Are actual what do you think are the actual tangible benefits to moving to one of? These places actionable things that would allow me to have a plan before moving. Out there curious. Your Thoughts lifelong, steelers fan, Big, fan well, congrats man follow, your dreams. Bro do i'm being. Dead serious that's, Really. COOL listen i don't know the specifics on. Your industry, you know forever it was like if you wanted to Work, in, HOLLYWOOD, movies, Tv whatever like people were Moving to la aspiring actors and actresses just to do whatever they could to be in the vicinity of. Those HUMANS and I think i remember three or four, years ago my brother's college roommate works for this big, almond farmer and this almond farmer had this huge party In the fresno area and he tried To Get stevie nicks to. Come play he couldn't and He Got joan. Jet instead she was. Freaking awesome this is like a party for like two, thousand people and Me and, jeff went and he Also Had, john PARTY who's i don't want, to say like a country, music superstar but he's a pretty. BIG deal i think he's. Pretty good he's he's a country musician who's, like legit and he also played. The party so it was Him And joan jet for a couple. Thousand people and there was an after party that me and my brother got it kind of like snuck our way into because it was only like not that many People in, russell's Office And john party was in there with some, other people and eventually everyone left and it was Just Me Jeff john party and like a, twelve back and we were just drinking talking and he told this story about when he was coming up and he was from, you know kind Of the, sacramento area, and someone, this guy, this businessman who Eventually, told john if you do not leave this area and Move, to nashville you might as well just go into construction or do. Something else you will never. Make it so he picked up and he left and he Went to nashville and the rest. Is HISTORY and i think the one thing he said, IS like i just got to be around, music producers people in THE industry i could, just meet whether it through events or whether it was just, playing places and have those. People attending now in a situation like you if you're a, movie producer right, or director or you want to work in? That world part of quote unquote Go. To la do you just walk up to the three or four big production operations and knock on the door and try to get? A? Job like are you any more likely seeing those people because they work in, an office they're not out like recruiting in the town for someone? Like you or does it? Even matter can you just find a way to send your stuff to? Those people now you could argue do those people hold the same amount of power as they? Once did would it be more important to get in front of the Guy, at netflix of the Guy, at amazon of the guy on you know whoever Runs NBC's peacock and are you any more likely doing that through the internet than how are you ever going to get in front of? These PEOPLE so i hear you like it's easy To play devil's advocate and go HOW do i get in front of this? Human BEING and i, would say in twenty, twenty five you'd have to be, pretty, SPECIFIC right i don't think you would just knock on any door and a lot of these people the business is. Dramatically changing you could, also argue if you're able to find a way TO produce i don't know your own little mini movies or whatever and put them. On YouTube you were able to create things now from Anywhere in america that can you can just send the link to those People through LinkedIn that you could hustle without. Being THERE so i think there are pros and cons. TO it i think twenty thirty, years ago you would have, no choice like if you wanted to get into, the industry you would have to gravitate in your field to one of. Those places you could argue in. Country music now you don't have to Move to nashville. RIGHT away i could become a star on TikTok on instagram and be discovered. THAT way i don't need to Play on Broadway RIGHT so i think the world's changed because Of. The. INTERNET now i don't exactly know your story of like are you already producing stuff that's AVAILABLE that i could click on? A link or have you not done anything and you just have Ideas down because if you're at, that stage you probably would want to get some sort of mentorship working. For someone but in, my EXPERIENCE like i could never have made it TO the NFL if i did not get the opportunity to Work At, fresno state and THE way i got my cousin had played there is a. Long snapper but during spring break, ONE year i had been calling around tried to get. A gig i just Drove to fresno and went up to the office and met, the guy and that's how our kind of. Relationship started so sometimes in a world of like emails and dms and all, that stuff, there is, you know value to. Meeting people why couldn't, YOU just i don't know your, financial situation just Go to La Or, new york rent the cheapest, hotel possible spend a week and just go knock on some doors or attack it that way as a person instead of moving. Out THERE so i would argue in twenty, twenty five the OLD school i got to go there is not as important as it. Once was but there always is a VALUE of i, don't know being in the vicinity of a. HUMAN being, i think is there any sort, of convention, you know like, for football, for example the combine things like that where people trying to get, involved coaching, you know clinics and things where people go to to, meet people, shake hands develop. A network i would say those things are pretty important that don't force you, to MOVE but i don't think your career just ends if you don't move there by. Any MEANS so, i guess as a long winded way of, saying, THAT like i don't think necessarily you have, to go but there are a lot of VARIABLES that i don't know about your situation for me to give. YOU advice i, do think, you KNOW when i first got into, the MEDIA when i was, doing radio the MORE events i, went to, you know the MORE people i, met in the more my life just or, my career my professional. Life expanded SO when i first left football in thirteen and for like fourteen, fifteen sixteen constantly going To obviously Niners and, raiders PRACTICE but i went to a Ton of. WARRIOR games i went to a Ton of. GIANTS games i was. Just around so there's always. A benefit and it's not apples to apples to, your question but just, being around especially if, you're young that's the other thing you got going for you. You're young it gets harder once you get my agency and, be, Like ah i'm not that interested in doing that when, you're young assuming, you're single kind of times on, your side opportunities on, your side AND like, i said even if you don't need, to move, just like look at some, shitty hotel scrape together see if, you can, you know if you can get a couple hundred bucks AND just i guess you got to fly, there too But help maybe can take the bus and just go for like a week and just go. Guerrilla warfare you map out A plan i need To, MEET again i don't know. Your industry these three or, four people EVEN if i meet their assistance right or someone in, their sinning HOW do i just make an impression at like thirty second, elevator pitch EVEN if i only get in front of one of the five people with connection to That person as, NIGALS fan i was sad To See milton, william GO but i get there was No way philly was gonna pay him that, that said do you think They'll Pay jalen carter if he has another year like the one and what will? He cout the answer, is yes and a lot. Of money if he keeps playing like, he's playing he'll be, one of if not the highest paid players in. The league and His agent rosenous now he's done a lot of Deals, with howie but it will not, come CHEAP so i would say an astronomical amount. OF money i think Ideally the eagles probably would play it out. Four years it'd be interesting if he has another sweet year he's Like An? All pro will you want to get paid after his? Third year question for the pod do you think there is a higher chance that one of the second Tier quarterbacks, Gabriel McCord dart in this year's draft has more success if they go to a better situation in the later Rounds than Ward or sanders in. The first, OF course. I would i would imagine if we look back on, the draft a ton of the second tier guys become really. GOOD players, i mean think about some of the starters over the. Last decade purty seventh, round pick, Great Situation dak prescott fourth, round pick, Great situation cousins fourth. Round pick not a, great situation but kind of. Worked Out russell wilson third. Round pick like what If You're jackson dart and you go To the rams and you go To the rams and you get to sit for a Year buying stafford and the next, Year start that's a much better situation Than the titans Or. The giants i'm sure this idea has, been considered maybe, even TRIED but, i can't for the life of me think why THE current nfl rules someone wouldn't. Try this imagine having a uniquely, tall player Someone, like shack playing. TIGHT end i would just tell that player to run, five yards, turn around have the quarterback throw the ball high enough only the tight end could. Grab it how would that not? Be, UNSTOPPABLE again i can't imagine this idea has never, been Considered but i'm curious as. YOUR take i would imagine it's been discussed. That guy let's just pick a, seven footer even if he's not as Big, as shack But Let's, Kevin Garneth. Anthony, davis okay he runs, five yards. Turns around there's never been an easier human, to Tackle and i'm taking you out of your legs like you're gonna. Get INJURED so i think it's. In theory it's easy to say it out loud and kind of makes, some success but part of being a good. Tight End, Kelsey Kittle, mark andrews whoever, You, Know Kronk, Tony Gonzalez, Shanna sharp you're like great with the ball in. Your hands you can, make moves you can, run routes, so like do those guys have to change of direction at? Their HEIGHT and i also think they're very very easy, To TACKLE so i think that's. The problem very easy to tackle and how fast? Are they right RELATIVE to? NFL players i think there's a certain height AS an nfl player that actually is. A disadvantage that would be my. JUST take i haven't thought that much. ABOUT it i hear what you're saying and maybe, be effective but just you're gonna have a roster spot for a guy that just runs four or five yard routes because, you're right if you can, throw it can the? Guy catch if you think about most of the tight ends that have been, basketball players they've actually been short relative to, basketball, players right they're like six three to. Six Five. Antonio gates i'm a Fan Of ryan poles and what he has been able to Build. In chicago the wins haven't, been there but this may be the best team we've had Since the. Lovey days well he's Had, Some, Missus Claypool. Nate davis he has great hits and that has Given the bears their best shot. At relevancy while our team has been tailored To Fit ben, Johnson's style poles hasn't been getting THE credit i think. He deserves it seems as though everyone has given the Credit to ben as if he's building out the. ROSTER himself i don't doubt The Role ben johnson is most likely playing in the, roster MOVES but i feel that the guy who is negotiating and making them happen deserves. More credit OR am? I Wrong and poles has had his role diminished With The ben. Johnson, SHOW yeah, I mean i think part of it is the carryover from. Last year so the stink of the. Previous season they Fired ebra Flusen, on, thanksgiving Right they so the coach has been out, of sight out of mind for so long that the hype of last year a lot Revolved Around. RYAN poles i considered it the greatest trade in the history of sports for what he Got, from carolina and then the season, you're, like well still pretty. Good trade you would, redo it but, it's like we still gotta let this thing. Play out how well it works out For the Bears and listen's he definitely has not. Been bad like they had a lot of talent on the field last year and now at their, offensive line it's. Much Better and i'm. WITH you, i mean with how bad their offensive, line Was Whether ben johnson was their coach or me or you was, their coach they were gonna trade for some offensive wine help or sign offensive. Wine HELP but i, do, think Listen the caleb thing was the easiest thing to ever, do right and he didn't even entertain drafting the. Other guys shouldn't he have been Seriously Entertaining jade Daniels And. Drake may shouldn't he have brought? Them in and he? Never did and Then the roma DONSAY pick I, LIKE rome i Am pro, roma doonsay but Like the bear should have Not drafted, roma doonsay they should have drafted an, offensive lineman and there were a ton on, the board and that's a. Big MISTAKE so i do Think the kleb thing like a lot of Pressures. On kleb And if jayden continues to, play well like you could have. Taken Him so i'm not gonna say. It's over they've played, one season but that, one season it's Not Like jayden daniels played on some. Loaded team when scouting, running backs how do you weigh the double edged sword of strength of schedule. Versus mileage jent played In The mountain west and didn't face top, defensive talent but also probably has more gas in the tank due to NOT facing sec. Defensive lineman does it all even out and make conference or relevance from mid to top tier? Running? Backs ps can we get a save it or save it or shave It For? Jed? UYORK yeah i mean it's really really hard because because when you excel In The big ten OR the sec as a, running back you are playing a TON of nfl, Defensive Players like i'm pro S You. Door sanders but the success he had playing quarterback In The big twelve was not against a LOT of. Nfl players and While The big twelve is a powerful conference from a, talent standpoint it's not great. On defense so how many, defensive linemen linebackers and corners are you playing that are going to go TO? The nfl so you're evaluating them, it's, like well THESE aren't. Nfl, players well when you play IN the sec Or The, big ten like every, single week you're playing a BUNCH of, Nfl players so it's an. Easier evaluation there's no right or wrong way to do It because we've seen a lot of guys not playing big conferences and go on to excel IN. The NFL but, i, think like if you Just expect genty to like break all these Tackles Against fred Warner And, luke keakley and, IT'S like I know, looke's retired but you KNOW what, i mean it's probably not. Gonna happen so like the dominance AND his i remember a scout texting me during, The season, they're like his highlight tape, is stupid and you just go to YouTube Type in Ashton gent t twenty. Twenty four he looks like a video. GAME player i do think some of those no one's arguing. As talent he is a. Elite talent he's a. Special talent but like the guys he's doing it against aren't a BUNCH of. Nfl GUYS so i don't have a great answer. FOR you i think you put more stock into when guys excel at the highest level against the. Best players and if you dominate on offense IN, the sec you're gonna be pretty good. On offense probably Like, brock bowers unstoppable IN the sec is pretty good IN. The nfl, like that it's usually sometimes in college you never. Really know Right In mountain west or you know In the act twelve, was down it's kind of hit. Or miss you're taking an. Educated Guess So ashton gent could be a, Pro, bowler like it wouldn't shock me if you tell me he Makes Two, Pro bowls and it wouldn't shock me at off you say he never Makes A. Pro bowl, you Know when saquon came out and, went like this Guy's A pro, BOWL talent i would say the same Thing About. Bjhon robinson now there are, other variables how well your team's run all, this stuff but like, you want these guys are, Freak SHOWS like i Don't put gent on. That level same thing, With, McCaffrey, like wait this guy can play receiver and he's like a dominant inside runner. As well how's this not gonna work well injuries because when he's. Healthy, dominates okay, last question what are the realistic expectations For? Arch Manning The quinn viewers era, had moments but the definition of heis. And lows my expectations aren't. That high now the team is gonna, be STACKED and i think. Y're one he can play LIKE a jj McCarthy. Type role now he's a better ATHLETE than. Jj McCarthy but ONE thing i think people don't, quite understand and maybe it improves dramatically. This offseason he does not have some huge arm so like when you Watch cam Ward Or caleb Williams Or jaden drake may like they were. THROWING seeds I think arch is much more Closer to peyton than He is eli in terms. Of ARMSTRING so i think the Hype on arch. Is outrageous anything less than like superstardom is gonna feel like. A letdown i think it's gonna be a. Little difficult so, MY expectation i think he's gonna be a. Good player this team's, So STACKED like i wouldn't just put all my money on him being the future number one overall pick based ON what i saw him throwing the. Ball, velosity now it's not the end all, be all but he plays IN. The sec so over the next assuming he's gonna play at minimum a couple of years, in COLLEGE which i would expect play next year and then, another year he's gonna playing a LOT of nfl PLAYERS, at Lsu, at ALABAMA at A and M at Georgia, at florida like he's going up against the cream of. The crop so we're, gonna, Know right, AND yeah i would say my expectations this upcoming year, are TEMPERED and i honestly feel it's like unfair the hype on this guy might be the biggest ever because of the build up of his family name other guys he just got. To play so like the hype on Whoever t Bow Or caleb williams or luck happened as they. Were playing it, was, like oh this is the greatest prospect of, All Time. Trevor lawrence but it was like while they, were playing all this hype On. Arch manning it's like he's what had a couple of spot Starts for, quinn yours he's, barely played came In against georgia in, a blowout like it's, it's tough really, good athlete. ARM strength i gotta. SEE it i gotta. See IT and, I mean i think he's just talking about like he's a future number one overall pick now, size check, clearly character high, level cat like the, way teammate The way i've, Read articles clearly an. Impressive guy how he. Throws it i'm fascinated to see he's in an. INCREDIBLE spot, i mean the team over the next couple of years is Gonna Be it's southern Version Of ohio state, unlimited money, sweet roster. Skilled dudes so he's got he's got awesome, Play caller he's in an. Incredible spot but the hype, for guy that's it's. IT'S hard i mean For every, cooper flag it's like, the hype, the hype. The hype then he, shows up He's, like jesus and then he just dominates number one. Overall pick there are a lot of people that go the. Other WAY and i think the Factor, like arch a huge part of, his hype which was out of, his control was just. His name would he have, been this would we be discussing him if his Name Was, Arch Johnson, Arch Williamson arch middle cough, no chance, no chance doesn't mean he can't become a. Great PLAYER but i. Don't know, i'm EXCITED like i can't wait to. WATCH him, a big big fan Of the. Manning FAMILY but i think, THE hype, i mean it feels like he's talked about like he's just a better player than like all the number one picks over the last like. Fifteen years anything Less than arch being like consensus number one pick feels like it's going to be. A disappointment That's all. I'M saying i feel like. It's unfair how's he going to live up? TO that i. Don't know audios the volume