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Yeah, there you go, Jonas.

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So, before we were so rudely interrupted by that pesky hard network app.

So, before we were so rudely interrupted by that pesky hard network app.

Out, we were discussing hard.

Out, we were discussing hard.

We were discussing the Kevin O'Connell rumor that was floated out there that apparently, yeah, some teams have kicked the tires on a would you be open?

We were discussing the Kevin O'Connell rumor that was floated out there that apparently, yeah, some teams have kicked the tires on a would you be open?

Uh yeah, that or that?

Uh yeah, that or that?

Are his agents just throwing that out there, and that's that's what forces you to get them to come to the negotiating table and sign a deal, one that's gonna make it one of the top paid, if not the top paid, you know, head coach.

Are his agents just throwing that out there, and that's that's what forces you to get them to come to the negotiating table and sign a deal, one that's gonna make it one of the top paid, if not the top paid, you know, head coach.

So that's all communicate?

So that's all communicate?

Do they not communicate behind closed doors? Could an agent really pull that off? Like, oh, you're trying to say kinds of stuff? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But if you're making that up, but these these owners be talking to one another, I don't even think that's colluding. I just think that that's these owners talk to one another. So if you're sitting there like, yeah, you know the Dolphins are are recruiting me, Like, no, they're not, dude, like relaxed, they're not.

Do they not communicate behind closed doors? Could an agent really pull that off? Like, oh, you're trying to say kinds of stuff? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But if you're making that up, but these these owners be talking to one another, I don't even think that's colluding. I just think that that's these owners talk to one another. So if you're sitting there like, yeah, you know the Dolphins are are recruiting me, Like, no, they're not, dude, like relaxed, they're not.

A couple of things.

A couple of things.

I'm not making the claim that he's making it up. But if he did, how would they ever know? And you could say the owner's talk, but like the owners aren't going to share really what they're looking at trying to do? Right, Like owners talk during you know, the owner's meetings, etc. Are they going to tell each other what their draft strategy is or how they feel about one coach as opposed. I mean, you know, you're not going to share all of your secrets in a competitive league when you're constantly jocking for a position and trying to go win a super Bowl. So even if they are talking, they're most likely not trying to actually do anything other than get information so they can use it for their own good. So my whole point is, and I'm not again, I'm not trying to make the claim that it's true or not. I'm just saying it seems interesting the timing of it. You know, it was interesting the timing of Kurt Signetti who redid his deal at IU before they happen to play Ohio State and then get drummed, and now it doesn't look quite as good. Right then they go to the playoff and they get beat by Notre Dame. You know, it's the timing of all this. And agents are smart enough to realize when they have leverage, they have to exercise that leverage. And so this is a point where you just had your team get blown out in a huge game, huge matchup, But that doesn't change the point that you've made the playoffs, you won what thirteen games, you know, there's all those things that you can point to and say, look at the success we've had, Like, let's get this deal done so we don't have to go into a lame duck year, because there's a lot of other interested teams that are calling me asking about, hey, what's gonna happen.

I'm not making the claim that he's making it up. But if he did, how would they ever know? And you could say the owner's talk, but like the owners aren't going to share really what they're looking at trying to do? Right, Like owners talk during you know, the owner's meetings, etc. Are they going to tell each other what their draft strategy is or how they feel about one coach as opposed. I mean, you know, you're not going to share all of your secrets in a competitive league when you're constantly jocking for a position and trying to go win a super Bowl. So even if they are talking, they're most likely not trying to actually do anything other than get information so they can use it for their own good. So my whole point is, and I'm not again, I'm not trying to make the claim that it's true or not. I'm just saying it seems interesting the timing of it. You know, it was interesting the timing of Kurt Signetti who redid his deal at IU before they happen to play Ohio State and then get drummed, and now it doesn't look quite as good. Right then they go to the playoff and they get beat by Notre Dame. You know, it's the timing of all this. And agents are smart enough to realize when they have leverage, they have to exercise that leverage. And so this is a point where you just had your team get blown out in a huge game, huge matchup, But that doesn't change the point that you've made the playoffs, you won what thirteen games, you know, there's all those things that you can point to and say, look at the success we've had, Like, let's get this deal done so we don't have to go into a lame duck year, because there's a lot of other interested teams that are calling me asking about, hey, what's gonna happen.

Why aren't they getting a deal done yet?

Why aren't they getting a deal done yet?

We would have got this deal done with you know, Kevin O'Connell, right, So those things happen because if you suffer another loss in the wildcard round and then you go into the next year where you lose your defensive coordinator Brian Flores to head coaching job, you got to make a decision on the quarterback position, and that could be a tough deal where maybe Sam Darnold leaves, you know, maybe.

We would have got this deal done with you know, Kevin O'Connell, right, So those things happen because if you suffer another loss in the wildcard round and then you go into the next year where you lose your defensive coordinator Brian Flores to head coaching job, you got to make a decision on the quarterback position, and that could be a tough deal where maybe Sam Darnold leaves, you know, maybe.

JJ McCarthy comes back. But either way, it's gonna.

JJ McCarthy comes back. But either way, it's gonna.

Be like his rookie year, right, he's coming off an injury, never got really to play this year. There could be some growing pains through that. And so if you really want to strike with iron's hot, now would be that time, this exact moment now to iron something out and get something done.

Be like his rookie year, right, he's coming off an injury, never got really to play this year. There could be some growing pains through that. And so if you really want to strike with iron's hot, now would be that time, this exact moment now to iron something out and get something done.

That makes sense.

That makes sense.

I'm interesting then, yeah, coming strategy, I mean, it's I mean, it should be the strategy. I mean, because it's all about creating your value. If you're able to create more value, you're able to demand more. I just I just look at it from the standpoint of it. It should be expected, right like you should expect that there's you know, someone out there on your behalf that's going to benefit from creating or making sure people see what that created value is before it goes bad. I would I would say, and I would wonder what is that value? How is that associated to Mike McCarthy at this moment in time. How do you reflect or or how do you you know, relay that type of branding and messaging of the value being there of what Mike McCarthy, you know, does Is that coming from what he's been able to do in the past, Because if we're looking at what they were able to do this season, I mean, I wouldn't say it was a total flop, but it's certainly with all of the expectations that came with this season, certainly did not vote well to what the ultimate outcomes were. And you ultimately have to look at two things you gotta look at the head coach.

I'm interesting then, yeah, coming strategy, I mean, it's I mean, it should be the strategy. I mean, because it's all about creating your value. If you're able to create more value, you're able to demand more. I just I just look at it from the standpoint of it. It should be expected, right like you should expect that there's you know, someone out there on your behalf that's going to benefit from creating or making sure people see what that created value is before it goes bad. I would I would say, and I would wonder what is that value? How is that associated to Mike McCarthy at this moment in time. How do you reflect or or how do you you know, relay that type of branding and messaging of the value being there of what Mike McCarthy, you know, does Is that coming from what he's been able to do in the past, Because if we're looking at what they were able to do this season, I mean, I wouldn't say it was a total flop, but it's certainly with all of the expectations that came with this season, certainly did not vote well to what the ultimate outcomes were. And you ultimately have to look at two things you gotta look at the head coach.

You gotta look at the quarterback.

You gotta look at the quarterback.

Quarterback goes out with injury, so it's solely focused on, you know, the head coach. Now you could say it you're going to look at the owner, but you could look at the owner and blame the owner all you want. The owner isn't going anywhere. So now you're looking at the two other entities that matter the most that could possibly stay or possibly go, And you know the quarterback isn't going anywhere right now. So now the next question becomes, is it the head coach? And how do you try to draw that value out of it and say, you know what, Dallas, you guys need to run it back with me and pay me some good money to do so, or I'm leaving, like, oh you're leaving another team?

Quarterback goes out with injury, so it's solely focused on, you know, the head coach. Now you could say it you're going to look at the owner, but you could look at the owner and blame the owner all you want. The owner isn't going anywhere. So now you're looking at the two other entities that matter the most that could possibly stay or possibly go, And you know the quarterback isn't going anywhere right now. So now the next question becomes, is it the head coach? And how do you try to draw that value out of it and say, you know what, Dallas, you guys need to run it back with me and pay me some good money to do so, or I'm leaving, like, oh you're leaving another team?

Is that? Oh the Bears want you back? Go ahead? I don't know. I mean, how how do you interpret that?

Is that? Oh the Bears want you back? Go ahead? I don't know. I mean, how how do you interpret that?

If you are, you know, the Dallas Cowboys and you hear the Bears are interested in in Mike McCarthy.

If you are, you know, the Dallas Cowboys and you hear the Bears are interested in in Mike McCarthy.

I mean like they're they're talking to David Shaw, They're talking to you know, Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson, like they're they're going to talk to everybody. That just feels like Mike McCarthy's maybe trying to do the same thing, trying to speed up the process. He's a free agent, what like his contract goes until tomorrow, I think, And then.

I mean like they're they're talking to David Shaw, They're talking to you know, Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson, like they're they're going to talk to everybody. That just feels like Mike McCarthy's maybe trying to do the same thing, trying to speed up the process. He's a free agent, what like his contract goes until tomorrow, I think, And then.

What are you really speeding up the process? Is what I'm asking.

What are you really speeding up the process? Is what I'm asking.

I just you know what I mean, Like what so?

I just you know what I mean, Like what so?

What I mean?

What I mean?

What if? What if?

What if? What if?

Dallas was like, oh, like the Bears are interested in you, all right, go check it out?

Dallas was like, oh, like the Bears are interested in you, all right, go check it out?

All right? So we have the Jerry Jones.

All right? So we have the Jerry Jones.

So Jerry Jones spoke yesterday about Mike mcan and it's the same thing we've been hearing from like the last month. It was all glowing positive reviews and commentary about Mike McCarthy, tigilist.

So Jerry Jones spoke yesterday about Mike mcan and it's the same thing we've been hearing from like the last month. It was all glowing positive reviews and commentary about Mike McCarthy, tigilist.

What does he mean to you?

What does he mean to you?

Well, I spoke to the old team and Mike was in the room with all the coaches of the whole team. And of course, Mike's one of the best coaches that I think there is. He was made to coach here because I thought that, and he's done absluted nothing to diminish my opinion of him as a coach. And am really impressed with the way the players identified or with it they're inside with it.

Well, I spoke to the old team and Mike was in the room with all the coaches of the whole team. And of course, Mike's one of the best coaches that I think there is. He was made to coach here because I thought that, and he's done absluted nothing to diminish my opinion of him as a coach. And am really impressed with the way the players identified or with it they're inside with it.

That's important.

That's important.

That's important because he's had some times when each one of those players individually as well as as a team, have.

That's important because he's had some times when each one of those players individually as well as as a team, have.

Not been fun times.

Not been fun times.

He's been there in his way for him on an individual base, He's been there his way for a more team basis.

He's been there in his way for him on an individual base, He's been there his way for a more team basis.

So it's all Hey loved how he kept the team together. Have so much respect for him, you know, et cetera, et cetera. Do you think that maybe that's true?

So it's all Hey loved how he kept the team together. Have so much respect for him, you know, et cetera, et cetera. Do you think that maybe that's true?

Right?

Right?

Do you think at this point Jerry Jones doesn't know what he wants to do. I find that hard to believe. I mean, how much more.

Do you think at this point Jerry Jones doesn't know what he wants to do. I find that hard to believe. I mean, how much more.

Time would I would? I would say, do you guys see his role on land Man? Dude? He is an incredible actor Jones, Yes, he he plays.

Time would I would? I would say, do you guys see his role on land Man? Dude? He is an incredible actor Jones, Yes, he he plays.

He does a cameo in Landman with Billy Bob Thornton and into the other actress name dude.

He does a cameo in Landman with Billy Bob Thornton and into the other actress name dude.

You gotta watch it. But I don't mean to get off on his engine.

You gotta watch it. But I don't mean to get off on his engine.

I just I couldn't help but mention this because if you haven't watched the series, watched the series, I believe it's on Paramount Plus. It's awesome, But Jerry Jones does a cameo on this I believe it's season two and uh, he's phenomenal, Like it's I sat there, I was like, dang, bro like, this guy's legit acting chops, Like no, Lie played that role as good as I like anyone who's someone famous not in the acting world has ever played a role. It was unbelievable, And so I don't know if that stuff sometimes well, yeah, I mean I haven't seen jas.

I just I couldn't help but mention this because if you haven't watched the series, watched the series, I believe it's on Paramount Plus. It's awesome, But Jerry Jones does a cameo on this I believe it's season two and uh, he's phenomenal, Like it's I sat there, I was like, dang, bro like, this guy's legit acting chops, Like no, Lie played that role as good as I like anyone who's someone famous not in the acting world has ever played a role. It was unbelievable, And so I don't know if that stuff sometimes well, yeah, I mean I haven't seen jas.

Have you been in he's been in acting classes and everything have you?

Have you been in he's been in acting classes and everything have you?

Yeah, I used to go to acting classes.

Yeah, I used to go to acting classes.

I haven't sitting in everything, man, like you probably through it.

I haven't sitting in everything, man, like you probably through it.

It's weird. It's weird place. I don't want to talk about that.

It's weird. It's weird place. I don't want to talk about that.

But all I'm saying is, by the way, we do have an unbelievable actor, and I don't know how much of it could translate over to him being a character for the Cowboys for their brand. How he hypes things up and then kind of creates I don't know. I'm not sure how much of it.

But all I'm saying is, by the way, we do have an unbelievable actor, and I don't know how much of it could translate over to him being a character for the Cowboys for their brand. How he hypes things up and then kind of creates I don't know. I'm not sure how much of it.

But you do have a little bit from land Man. Here is Jerry Jones Glory Hill. Oh no, that's not actually from Landman. Why we can't just do it?

But you do have a little bit from land Man. Here is Jerry Jones Glory Hill. Oh no, that's not actually from Landman. Why we can't just do it?

I don't know why you would like the series like you in particular. I think LeVar would, but I know you would. I mean, Lee would probably get drunk during it and forget whatever happens.

I don't know why you would like the series like you in particular. I think LeVar would, but I know you would. I mean, Lee would probably get drunk during it and forget whatever happens.

Man incredibly for the end credits.

Man incredibly for the end credits.

Yeah, this is a land man. I kind of you know, Billy Bob Thornton's outfit when.

Yeah, this is a land man. I kind of you know, Billy Bob Thornton's outfit when.

He was making the interview rounds kind of threw me off a little bit.

He was making the interview rounds kind of threw me off a little bit.

Do you off your mets?

Do you off your mets?

I am not.

I am not.

Oh, my brother fought for what the f Listen, buddy, you off your f and meds?

Oh, my brother fought for what the f Listen, buddy, you off your f and meds?

Yeah? But no. Jerry Jones is great in that.

Yeah? But no. Jerry Jones is great in that.

I just find it hard to believe that mixed in his appearances on that show and his two appearances during the week, that he just hasn't been able to come to a conclusion or decision as to whether or not he wants Mike McCarthy. He's stuck with Jason Garrett.

I just find it hard to believe that mixed in his appearances on that show and his two appearances during the week, that he just hasn't been able to come to a conclusion or decision as to whether or not he wants Mike McCarthy. He's stuck with Jason Garrett.

He's stuck with Jason Garrett for a while, right.

He's stuck with Jason Garrett for a while, right.

Do you think that it.

Do you think that it.

Comes down to because just listening to the way he spoke on Mike McCarthy, you know that it's him and his son that are making the decisions for this team. Do you think it ultimately comes down to someone who is able to manage what they do and in the comfort level of how they feel about the person and what they do. Because you can't fire the person bringing in the talent. You can only fire the person who's coaching it. So it's like, oh, Mike McCarthy gets us, he understands how we work. I have an affinity for him.

Comes down to because just listening to the way he spoke on Mike McCarthy, you know that it's him and his son that are making the decisions for this team. Do you think it ultimately comes down to someone who is able to manage what they do and in the comfort level of how they feel about the person and what they do. Because you can't fire the person bringing in the talent. You can only fire the person who's coaching it. So it's like, oh, Mike McCarthy gets us, he understands how we work. I have an affinity for him.

We're going to keep him around.

We're going to keep him around.

More so than maybe just the results of winning, winning and losing. You know, it could be the idea of I get it, Like, he's not dumb, and I don't think he's unaware either. So if he's fully aware, he hears what people say. He knows that people are blaming him for how the Dallas Cowboys, you know, look, or how they.

More so than maybe just the results of winning, winning and losing. You know, it could be the idea of I get it, Like, he's not dumb, and I don't think he's unaware either. So if he's fully aware, he hears what people say. He knows that people are blaming him for how the Dallas Cowboys, you know, look, or how they.

End up a lot of it.

End up a lot of it.

It's him.

It's him.

It's him. It's him.

It's him. It's him.

Okay, he's aware of it. He feels like maybe at some point he's going to get it right and he's going to get that elusive super Bowl. So is it more so about having a coach that can get you to the super Bowl and telling you, hey, Jerry, you and your get out of the way and let me do what I need to do. Or is it more so about a coach that says I'm going to try to get us there.

Okay, he's aware of it. He feels like maybe at some point he's going to get it right and he's going to get that elusive super Bowl. So is it more so about having a coach that can get you to the super Bowl and telling you, hey, Jerry, you and your get out of the way and let me do what I need to do. Or is it more so about a coach that says I'm going to try to get us there.

I believe in your vision.

I believe in your vision.

I believe you know what you know like you say you do, and I support that and I want to be a part of trying to help you get to that super Bowl. Because if you think about it, if you deliver Jerry Jones that whatever coach delivers him that super Bowl, they're set for life. They'll probably get written into his will.

I believe you know what you know like you say you do, and I support that and I want to be a part of trying to help you get to that super Bowl. Because if you think about it, if you deliver Jerry Jones that whatever coach delivers him that super Bowl, they're set for life. They'll probably get written into his will.

They're set. They're set for life.

They're set. They're set for life.

So is it more so about making sure Because I'll say this, I know that's how it was in Washington. It very quickly went away. And I mean from Joe Gibbs on, you name them, Steve Spurrier. The only one that didn't go down that rabbit hole was Martin Schottenheimer and he got fired after one year. The rest of them, it all evolved into what appeased the owner, Well, he's the owner.

So is it more so about making sure Because I'll say this, I know that's how it was in Washington. It very quickly went away. And I mean from Joe Gibbs on, you name them, Steve Spurrier. The only one that didn't go down that rabbit hole was Martin Schottenheimer and he got fired after one year. The rest of them, it all evolved into what appeased the owner, Well, he's the owner.

There's been a couple of players.

There's been a couple of players.

Dak Prescott mentioned this a few weeks ago, and there was somebody at the exit interview yesterday and they were asked, you know, hey, do you think Mike McCarthy should be back? And they said yes, but back on his terms, doing it the way he and that it's not going to happen, and I know, and I took that as I took that as basically, hey, let Mike coach and stay out of it a little bit.

Dak Prescott mentioned this a few weeks ago, and there was somebody at the exit interview yesterday and they were asked, you know, hey, do you think Mike McCarthy should be back? And they said yes, but back on his terms, doing it the way he and that it's not going to happen, and I know, and I took that as I took that as basically, hey, let Mike coach and stay out of it a little bit.

And if that's the feeling there, like maybe he's.

And if that's the feeling there, like maybe he's.

Just better off going elsewhere, dude, Like, if there's another opportunity, whether it's Chicago, Jacksonville, just get out of there. If you can't do it your way, then then why does he want to stick around?

Just better off going elsewhere, dude, Like, if there's another opportunity, whether it's Chicago, Jacksonville, just get out of there. If you can't do it your way, then then why does he want to stick around?

Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know.

I was actually going to point out the fact that probably should be a fine for LeVar.

I was actually going to point out the fact that probably should be a fine for LeVar.

You know, I did bring up Washington, you did, and I did take a shot, But I was using an example.

You know, I did bring up Washington, you did, and I did take a shot, But I was using an example.

Ample that's true. Maybe it's like half the five So what are we doing like ten bucks?

Ample that's true. Maybe it's like half the five So what are we doing like ten bucks?

Five bucks? Tang?

Five bucks? Tang?

Yeah, all right, well i'll put it in on the tip when we go get a drink.

Yeah, all right, well i'll put it in on the tip when we go get a drink.

There we go? Yeah, there we go?

There we go? Yeah, there we go?

Because dollars doesn't even get you a drink.

Because dollars doesn't even get you a drink.

Then wait, quick, is he coming back or not? What do you guys think?

Then wait, quick, is he coming back or not? What do you guys think?

No?

No?

Yes, all right, split, I think I mean.

Yes, all right, split, I think I mean.

He's got to get one more.

He's got to get one more.

The problem is that there's a timeline on this, right, Like there's an exclusive negotiating window and they've got to make a decision otherwise he's gonna get the interview for other head coaching jobs.

The problem is that there's a timeline on this, right, Like there's an exclusive negotiating window and they've got to make a decision otherwise he's gonna get the interview for other head coaching jobs.

So actually know what, I think he'll be back.

So actually know what, I think he'll be back.

What changed your mind, because I'm I'm thinking, so his contract comes up tomorrow, right, I think I think Jerry Jones at some point over the last month started to veer towards the hey, maybe he really is the best option out there, and looking at the candidates, Belichick's not there, Rabel, I don't I don't see Rabel wanting to deal with it. I think they're just going to run it back with him, and I think they're going to give him the grace of Dak Prescott got hurt.

What changed your mind, because I'm I'm thinking, so his contract comes up tomorrow, right, I think I think Jerry Jones at some point over the last month started to veer towards the hey, maybe he really is the best option out there, and looking at the candidates, Belichick's not there, Rabel, I don't I don't see Rabel wanting to deal with it. I think they're just going to run it back with him, and I think they're going to give him the grace of Dak Prescott got hurt.

If you know.

If you know.

Comfortable Jerry Jones is comfortable with Mike McCarthy. It just sounds like the way he speaks on him, he's comfortable with him. And I think at his age, he wants to win that super Bowl. But we're talking about Mike McCarthy winning on his own terms, But realistically, the only terms that matter are Jerry Joneses. Right, win on Jerry Jones's terms, And if you have a guy that can try to toe that line and still try to run a team and have success with a team, and he's okay with doing that. Why would you risk why would you risk starting all over all over again? You know, Jerry isn't getting any younger. So if you have somebody who you vibe with, that you're comfortable around, and you can talk to him about things, not just about football, but you can talk about other things outside of the realm of sport, and that is giving you what you need emotionally and mentally as the head coach of your team. I just thought, I think that there's more. There's I think Mike McCarthy may have more value based upon other things versus just being a winning coach that wins the Super Bowl for Jerry Jones in Dallas, that would be the only way to me that if you're judging him just based off of wins and losses and the success of this team on what Jerry Jones has been selling to his audience, it's not good enough. And that's not a slight on on Mike McCarthy. It's just the truth. This was not injuries or not. It's just the last two seasons have not been good enough. If it's like, let's get ready to give him a new contract, just hasn't been good enough, So what is the value? Where's the value of bringing him back and giving him another contract? It is got to be something else.

Comfortable Jerry Jones is comfortable with Mike McCarthy. It just sounds like the way he speaks on him, he's comfortable with him. And I think at his age, he wants to win that super Bowl. But we're talking about Mike McCarthy winning on his own terms, But realistically, the only terms that matter are Jerry Joneses. Right, win on Jerry Jones's terms, And if you have a guy that can try to toe that line and still try to run a team and have success with a team, and he's okay with doing that. Why would you risk why would you risk starting all over all over again? You know, Jerry isn't getting any younger. So if you have somebody who you vibe with, that you're comfortable around, and you can talk to him about things, not just about football, but you can talk about other things outside of the realm of sport, and that is giving you what you need emotionally and mentally as the head coach of your team. I just thought, I think that there's more. There's I think Mike McCarthy may have more value based upon other things versus just being a winning coach that wins the Super Bowl for Jerry Jones in Dallas, that would be the only way to me that if you're judging him just based off of wins and losses and the success of this team on what Jerry Jones has been selling to his audience, it's not good enough. And that's not a slight on on Mike McCarthy. It's just the truth. This was not injuries or not. It's just the last two seasons have not been good enough. If it's like, let's get ready to give him a new contract, just hasn't been good enough, So what is the value? Where's the value of bringing him back and giving him another contract? It is got to be something else.

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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up twenty minutes from now from the Tirak dot Com studios, we are going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers that will be yours here on FSR right now though it is a Tuesday tradition. This man is our smooth operator. He is Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, also an analyst for CBS Sports HQ. And you can get some of that smoke on social media at Prisco, CBS on X. Pete, good morning, how we feeling, operator?

I'm great.

I'm great.

Last week wasn't very good, but today's Today's a new day. It's a new week and ready to move on.

Last week wasn't very good, but today's Today's a new day. It's a new week and ready to move on.

Yeah, Tang, you aren't what happened last week happened.

Yeah, Tang, you aren't what happened last week happened.

But I mean I'm sitting there at the fifty yard line watching my fun devils. It let a fourth and thirteen get hit because they called them stupid blitz against quinn Ewers made no sense whatsoever. And uh and so what's that Brady?

But I mean I'm sitting there at the fifty yard line watching my fun devils. It let a fourth and thirteen get hit because they called them stupid blitz against quinn Ewers made no sense whatsoever. And uh and so what's that Brady?

That was going? Well? That was LeVar san Damn. I was gonna ask you though about the targeting call targeting.

That was going? Well? That was LeVar san Damn. I was gonna ask you though about the targeting call targeting.

It was definitely targeting. But you know, the way the issue would kick field goals all year, they probably would have got down there and yanked it off the bar.

It was definitely targeting. But you know, the way the issue would kick field goals all year, they probably would have got down there and yanked it off the bar.

Pete.

Pete.

So, Pete, are you the type because I know you're a little bit superstitious if they get back in that position again, are you going or are you going to say, Nope, not doing it.

So, Pete, are you the type because I know you're a little bit superstitious if they get back in that position again, are you going or are you going to say, Nope, not doing it.

I was bad luck. I was the mush Well I always.

I was bad luck. I was the mush Well I always.

Thought I wanted to do it once and Brady, you know how I hate getting on a plane with a million people.

Thought I wanted to do it once and Brady, you know how I hate getting on a plane with a million people.

Bothering me and allowed me. How awesome was the environment it was?

Bothering me and allowed me. How awesome was the environment it was?

It was well, let's put this way, the Falcons took me up. So it was great. I was right and there in a fifty yard line and we were in the middle of the ASU. The viclos was the issue section, uh, And it was fantastic and and so it was a great atmosphere. I thought in the beginning, I go, here we go. We'll be leaving at halftime, you know. But no, they came back, they rallied, they played well. They they really showed themselves well, which I think is good for the program. And look, he's done a great job. It was whatever we got out of that was gravy and they probably would have got whacked by Ohio State anyways. But it still was a great season. It was a great season, was a fun season, and it was a great game. I mean. And by the way, I know you love college football. College football has problems, big problems, and.

It was well, let's put this way, the Falcons took me up. So it was great. I was right and there in a fifty yard line and we were in the middle of the ASU. The viclos was the issue section, uh, And it was fantastic and and so it was a great atmosphere. I thought in the beginning, I go, here we go. We'll be leaving at halftime, you know. But no, they came back, they rallied, they played well. They they really showed themselves well, which I think is good for the program. And look, he's done a great job. It was whatever we got out of that was gravy and they probably would have got whacked by Ohio State anyways. But it still was a great season. It was a great season, was a fun season, and it was a great game. I mean. And by the way, I know you love college football. College football has problems, big problems, and.

We can't say that listening off what they are Robin the.

We can't say that listening off what they are Robin the.

Problems for you. First off, there were many many more Sun Devil fans in the crowd than there were Texas fans. And the reason that is is because the Texas fans went to I asked some of them. I asked some of the Texas fans. What happened. They went to the SEC championship game. They got this game, then they got the one in Dallas, and then hopefully they're going to have another one. And so when you're a program like that, fans can't travel to every game. It's just impossible and it's expensive.

Problems for you. First off, there were many many more Sun Devil fans in the crowd than there were Texas fans. And the reason that is is because the Texas fans went to I asked some of them. I asked some of the Texas fans. What happened. They went to the SEC championship game. They got this game, then they got the one in Dallas, and then hopefully they're going to have another one. And so when you're a program like that, fans can't travel to every game. It's just impossible and it's expensive.

And I think, Okay, the people, Pete, I get that, But do you not think that like the Baltimore Ravens fans or someone you know what I'm saying, if they don't have home field advantage, they got to go to Baltimore, they have to go to like the next two games on the road.

And I think, Okay, the people, Pete, I get that, But do you not think that like the Baltimore Ravens fans or someone you know what I'm saying, if they don't have home field advantage, they got to go to Baltimore, they have to go to like the next two games on the road.

It's the same thing that the Super Bowl.

It's the same thing that the Super Bowl.

Most of the time, that rarely happens, Brady. I mean, it's not it's not the way it happens. And if you're a wild card, well literally.

Most of the time, that rarely happens, Brady. I mean, it's not it's not the way it happens. And if you're a wild card, well literally.

It's not the way it happens. What do you.

It's not the way it happens. What do you.

I'm just saying, if you're going to go to all the playoff games, it's an expensive road to go too.

I'm just saying, if you're going to go to all the playoff games, it's an expensive road to go too.

It's no different than the NFL. You got to pay.

It's no different than the NFL. You got to pay.

They need to put that, they need to put the games on campus. That's what they need to do.

They need to put that, they need to put the games on campus. That's what they need to do.

They did for the first round.

They did for the first round.

But you still have to fly and travel to go to those games.

But you still have to fly and travel to go to those games.

I mean, jeez, Pete, come on.

I mean, jeez, Pete, come on.

The visiting team.

The visiting team.

Yeah, like, hey, let's just take the Pete. Take the Baltimore Ravens or take Notre Dame. Let's compare the two. Baltimore is going to host a home playoff game and then potentially the next one. We don't know how things, you know, plan out with all that, but they'll have to travel after that at some point.

Yeah, like, hey, let's just take the Pete. Take the Baltimore Ravens or take Notre Dame. Let's compare the two. Baltimore is going to host a home playoff game and then potentially the next one. We don't know how things, you know, plan out with all that, but they'll have to travel after that at some point.

And then there's the Super Bowl too. Like it's it's no different, but it is different.

And then there's the Super Bowl too. Like it's it's no different, but it is different.

And here's why Baltimore's playing Pittsburgh this week. The Steeler fans get in the car and drive to Baltimore. You ain't getting any car and driving from Texas.

And here's why Baltimore's playing Pittsburgh this week. The Steeler fans get in the car and drive to Baltimore. You ain't getting any car and driving from Texas.

That's that's the sheer look of the matchup of the playoffs.

That's that's the sheer look of the matchup of the playoffs.

And by the way, Indiana fans, by the way, Pete, Indiana fans drove up to South Bend.

And by the way, Indiana fans, by the way, Pete, Indiana fans drove up to South Bend.

How about that, Pete?

How about that, Pete?

Ask you, this are the Notre Dame fans going to the game this week in South Florida.

Ask you, this are the Notre Dame fans going to the game this week in South Florida.

Yes, there's a lot, but you know what, there weren't as many that went last week.

Yes, there's a lot, but you know what, there weren't as many that went last week.

There were not.

There were not.

No, there were less fans went to Neworleans. There'll be more Notre Dame fans for this. The southbeat trip.

No, there were less fans went to Neworleans. There'll be more Notre Dame fans for this. The southbeat trip.

Notre Dame is a little bit different because Notre Dame's a nation.

Notre Dame is a little bit different because Notre Dame's a nation.

Now it's a little different. Now, it's a little different at different, all right, Pete, don't worry. Hey, look look Pete, we're happy for you. It was the most competitive game so far in the playoff. And I hope you're proud. I hope you're proud. Arizona State Sun Level.

Now it's a little different. Now, it's a little different at different, all right, Pete, don't worry. Hey, look look Pete, we're happy for you. It was the most competitive game so far in the playoff. And I hope you're proud. I hope you're proud. Arizona State Sun Level.

Great job, Pete.

Great job, Pete.

I had, I had my Garbon. I was very my wife had heard Garbon, and we were very proud of the program. But what I don't like about college football is that blue bloods the same blue bloods over and over and over again. I mean, it's just it's that needs to change. They need to put a salery captain when it comes to the NL.

I had, I had my Garbon. I was very my wife had heard Garbon, and we were very proud of the program. But what I don't like about college football is that blue bloods the same blue bloods over and over and over again. I mean, it's just it's that needs to change. They need to put a salery captain when it comes to the NL.

Okay, Pete, Pete, this is the first time Penn State has ever been in the playoff, let alone the round of four. Notre Dame has been before, but I don't know the people thought they were going to get past. You know, Georgia, Ohio State has been here before, but after the lost of Michigan, no one thought that. And then Texas is now back in the round of four. But the only one representing the SEC.

Okay, Pete, Pete, this is the first time Penn State has ever been in the playoff, let alone the round of four. Notre Dame has been before, but I don't know the people thought they were going to get past. You know, Georgia, Ohio State has been here before, but after the lost of Michigan, no one thought that. And then Texas is now back in the round of four. But the only one representing the SEC.

Brady. They're blue blood programs. You can't say that they're not.

Brady. They're blue blood programs. You can't say that they're not.

They've we don't have any of the normal SEC Georgia, Bama, Elison, none of those SEC teams are involved.

They've we don't have any of the normal SEC Georgia, Bama, Elison, none of those SEC teams are involved.

That's correct, I get that, But but those are blue But you would you would you agree that Notre Dame, Penn State, Texas and Ohio State or blue blood programs, Yes or no.

That's correct, I get that, But but those are blue But you would you would you agree that Notre Dame, Penn State, Texas and Ohio State or blue blood programs, Yes or no.

Just because they're blue blood?

Just because they're blue blood?

Sure, but but but if you looked at the playoffs in general, I you Boys State, Arizona State, they aren't, and they were in it SMU, they were, but.

Sure, but but but if you looked at the playoffs in general, I you Boys State, Arizona State, they aren't, and they were in it SMU, they were, but.

Because they want to they won their conference, that's why they got it.

Because they want to they won their conference, that's why they got it.

Well, same thing with Arizona State. I'm just I'm making a He's the bottom.

Well, same thing with Arizona State. I'm just I'm making a He's the bottom.

Line is college football. College football needs to do a better job of spreading the wealth around or else. The same teams are gonna be in it over and over again. People aren't gonna like that.

Line is college football. College football needs to do a better job of spreading the wealth around or else. The same teams are gonna be in it over and over again. People aren't gonna like that.

How is this different from the NFL, Like, because.

How is this different from the NFL, Like, because.

You build your team in the NFL, you have to build your team and you have a salary cap and you have draft. Why try to college college in college football, if you have the biggest collective, you're going to have the best team period.

You build your team in the NFL, you have to build your team and you have a salary cap and you have draft. Why try to college college in college football, if you have the biggest collective, you're going to have the best team period.

They have revenue sharing.

They have revenue sharing.

Jesus, hey, they paid, they paid. He paid quarterback four million dollars. Some school can't. You're gonna have the better quarterback.

Jesus, hey, they paid, they paid. He paid quarterback four million dollars. Some school can't. You're gonna have the better quarterback.

The way it works, that's how you That's how in the future, Pete, I know you're not up to date on this. That's how things will work moving forward, with the revenue share, with how they're allocating the funds. Let's get to the NFL. I was calling the Jags Colts game. I'm gonna be honest with you. I thought Bulky was gonna get canned. I didn't think it was going to be Peterson, but obviously Balky survives.

The way it works, that's how you That's how in the future, Pete, I know you're not up to date on this. That's how things will work moving forward, with the revenue share, with how they're allocating the funds. Let's get to the NFL. I was calling the Jags Colts game. I'm gonna be honest with you. I thought Bulky was gonna get canned. I didn't think it was going to be Peterson, but obviously Balky survives.

Peterson stays, what are your thoughts?

Peterson stays, what are your thoughts?

It's well, first off, I think they all should have gone, every one of them. They should have cleaned house and the fact that they didn't is a bad look for the organization. Now, from what I've heard from some people in the in the building, is that that there's a chance that the new coach is going to have all the power and whoever that is if he comes in and says, look, I can't work with that guy. I want my own guy. That they still might make that happen. You know, Shad Khan needs somebody to help him with the coach in search. I think he's using Balk in that role. But the problem is is what happens if Balk said as oh, well we should get this guy because he can work with him, or he's one of his buddies or or whoever, and so yeah, it's bad. Look, that guy has survived a lot of things in his career. Think about that he got Jim Harbaugh out in San Francisco. That that means you're you're a political maneuvering expert, You're you're a chap. He won the Super Bowl political maneuvering, and he continues.

It's well, first off, I think they all should have gone, every one of them. They should have cleaned house and the fact that they didn't is a bad look for the organization. Now, from what I've heard from some people in the in the building, is that that there's a chance that the new coach is going to have all the power and whoever that is if he comes in and says, look, I can't work with that guy. I want my own guy. That they still might make that happen. You know, Shad Khan needs somebody to help him with the coach in search. I think he's using Balk in that role. But the problem is is what happens if Balk said as oh, well we should get this guy because he can work with him, or he's one of his buddies or or whoever, and so yeah, it's bad. Look, that guy has survived a lot of things in his career. Think about that he got Jim Harbaugh out in San Francisco. That that means you're you're a political maneuvering expert, You're you're a chap. He won the Super Bowl political maneuvering, and he continues.

To win it.

To win it.

And it's just a bad book for the organization. I would have fired all of them.

And it's just a bad book for the organization. I would have fired all of them.

Jesus Well, I mean, how does but how do you how do you avoid that? Like, like you said, he's a part of the coaching search. So the idea, and we talked about this earlier in the showte the idea of somebody coming in and be like, yeah, I don't want to work with with with Bulky, like he's got to go.

Jesus Well, I mean, how does but how do you how do you avoid that? Like, like you said, he's a part of the coaching search. So the idea, and we talked about this earlier in the showte the idea of somebody coming in and be like, yeah, I don't want to work with with with Bulky, like he's got to go.

How does that even happen?

How does that even happen?

Who's going to find that coaching candidate and bring them in there and they're going to say that when he's the guy that's still helping pull the trigger on decisions being made. It doesn't seem logical or even feasible. So how does that even work?

Who's going to find that coaching candidate and bring them in there and they're going to say that when he's the guy that's still helping pull the trigger on decisions being made. It doesn't seem logical or even feasible. So how does that even work?

You know, that's a good question, LeVar. But here's the thing. It's like Ben Jonson wants that job. They need to and he wants to go in there and talk to them. He needs no matter what happens. If he says yes, I want to interview, and he's the number one candidate, a lot of places didn't go interview, and I still think he needs to go interview. There's there's some rumblings and you hear this that he won't interview because Balky's still there. I think he needs to go interview and tell them, look, this is what I need I have other options. If you want to give me this, I want this job. I want to work with Trevor Lawrence. I want to be in Florida, close to where I was born and raised in North Carolina. No state income tax. You know, an odor that for the most part clearly doesn't meddle because he keeps this guy around. And so I go in there and say, that's what I want, and if you want to hire me, this is what I need. He's got to go. I want my own guy in here and away we go. That's what he needs to do. If he still interviews, If he doesn't do the interview, I think he's hurting himself. I think he should do the interview.

You know, that's a good question, LeVar. But here's the thing. It's like Ben Jonson wants that job. They need to and he wants to go in there and talk to them. He needs no matter what happens. If he says yes, I want to interview, and he's the number one candidate, a lot of places didn't go interview, and I still think he needs to go interview. There's there's some rumblings and you hear this that he won't interview because Balky's still there. I think he needs to go interview and tell them, look, this is what I need I have other options. If you want to give me this, I want this job. I want to work with Trevor Lawrence. I want to be in Florida, close to where I was born and raised in North Carolina. No state income tax. You know, an odor that for the most part clearly doesn't meddle because he keeps this guy around. And so I go in there and say, that's what I want, and if you want to hire me, this is what I need. He's got to go. I want my own guy in here and away we go. That's what he needs to do. If he still interviews, If he doesn't do the interview, I think he's hurting himself. I think he should do the interview.

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Pete.

Pete.

The Patriots waited about fifteen minutes and then fired girod Mayo after beating the Bills on Sunday. Is this move made if Mike Rabel's not available.

The Patriots waited about fifteen minutes and then fired girod Mayo after beating the Bills on Sunday. Is this move made if Mike Rabel's not available.

That's a good question, because I do think that they're you know, the fact that the Jets were talking to Mike Brabele kind of stirred the pod a little bit by the way. I also hear Jacksonville didn't play for Mike Brable. He's gonna have a lot about Chicago as well. He's gonna have a lot of options. So if you're the Patriots and you want to bring home, you know, one of your own, then I think it makes sense. But you know, look Mayo. A couple of weeks ago, do you remember when Johnathancraft was sitting in the crowd and they read his lips and he said something about the offense being crapped. Basically is what he said. You knew the handwriting was on the wall. And then Mayo didn't do a great job of handling himself away from away from the game. You know, the coaching, that's one thing, one very good, but then you called your team soft and publicly call your team soft. I mean, that's never a good look. And there were a couple other instances that he didn't handle himself very well. So it's not surprising. I thought he would get another year, But at some point you got to look at it and say, it isn't going to work no matter if we give him another year, it's not changing. Go make the move. But I think Brabil certainly had a lot to do with it.

That's a good question, because I do think that they're you know, the fact that the Jets were talking to Mike Brabele kind of stirred the pod a little bit by the way. I also hear Jacksonville didn't play for Mike Brable. He's gonna have a lot about Chicago as well. He's gonna have a lot of options. So if you're the Patriots and you want to bring home, you know, one of your own, then I think it makes sense. But you know, look Mayo. A couple of weeks ago, do you remember when Johnathancraft was sitting in the crowd and they read his lips and he said something about the offense being crapped. Basically is what he said. You knew the handwriting was on the wall. And then Mayo didn't do a great job of handling himself away from away from the game. You know, the coaching, that's one thing, one very good, but then you called your team soft and publicly call your team soft. I mean, that's never a good look. And there were a couple other instances that he didn't handle himself very well. So it's not surprising. I thought he would get another year, But at some point you got to look at it and say, it isn't going to work no matter if we give him another year, it's not changing. Go make the move. But I think Brabil certainly had a lot to do with it.

Pete, good gook. Okay, I'll juste ak you quickly about the New York Jets. When you see Rex Ryan out there politicking the way he is for the job, it feels like they've interviewed pretty much everyone on the face of the planet at this point. Uh do you do you look at it and go like, yeah, maybe it would make sense to bring back Rex And it's you know, he's a coach they're familiar with, he knows the ownership, he knows the fan base that was the last time they had success. Like, do you look at him as the most viable option for the Jets because that feels like a job that a lot of head coaching candidates might be leary of.

Pete, good gook. Okay, I'll juste ak you quickly about the New York Jets. When you see Rex Ryan out there politicking the way he is for the job, it feels like they've interviewed pretty much everyone on the face of the planet at this point. Uh do you do you look at it and go like, yeah, maybe it would make sense to bring back Rex And it's you know, he's a coach they're familiar with, he knows the ownership, he knows the fan base that was the last time they had success. Like, do you look at him as the most viable option for the Jets because that feels like a job that a lot of head coaching candidates might be leary of.

Well they're leary of is because of the owner. I mean, you know, look, you're gonna bring this The only it'd be the best ending to it all is to have a guy you fired conducting the coaching search and Mike Cannon hire a coach that you fired in Rex Ryan. That would be be perfect vintage New York Jets. And our buddy Rick Spielman's involved in that entire process and he was in the studio with us last week and worked. And I can't tell you how much a grief I gave him about about the whole process and how it's playing out. Are you kidding me? Give me a break. They got two general managers. Okay, Spielman never worked there, but Mike Canabom was fired by the Jets, and you bring him in to help you make the decision on who you're going to hire it as the general manager and the head coach. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. They are passing a wide net, which I think is smart. You should talk to as many people as you can. That's what I would do if I was if I was in the interview process as an owner, I would talk or a general managers looking for a coach. I would talk to as many as I can, many, many, many coaches, and I would steal all their ideas and write them down and use them for later on because they all come with great ideas, because you know they're all primped and ready to go. Ready here I am, I'm ready for your interview. So all have great ideas. Whatever you like you hear, you'd write it down, jot it down, and take it and pass it on to the guy you actually do hire Pete?

Well they're leary of is because of the owner. I mean, you know, look, you're gonna bring this The only it'd be the best ending to it all is to have a guy you fired conducting the coaching search and Mike Cannon hire a coach that you fired in Rex Ryan. That would be be perfect vintage New York Jets. And our buddy Rick Spielman's involved in that entire process and he was in the studio with us last week and worked. And I can't tell you how much a grief I gave him about about the whole process and how it's playing out. Are you kidding me? Give me a break. They got two general managers. Okay, Spielman never worked there, but Mike Canabom was fired by the Jets, and you bring him in to help you make the decision on who you're going to hire it as the general manager and the head coach. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. They are passing a wide net, which I think is smart. You should talk to as many people as you can. That's what I would do if I was if I was in the interview process as an owner, I would talk or a general managers looking for a coach. I would talk to as many as I can, many, many, many coaches, and I would steal all their ideas and write them down and use them for later on because they all come with great ideas, because you know they're all primped and ready to go. Ready here I am, I'm ready for your interview. So all have great ideas. Whatever you like you hear, you'd write it down, jot it down, and take it and pass it on to the guy you actually do hire Pete?

How does that work for Dallas?

How does that work for Dallas?

I mean, you know, the posturing has began, and obviously his contract runs out tomorrow. How does that work out for Dallas? Do you go for the bait and say, oh, he's wanted, the Bears want them, Let's give him a contract, let's extend them, let's not mess around with it.

I mean, you know, the posturing has began, and obviously his contract runs out tomorrow. How does that work out for Dallas? Do you go for the bait and say, oh, he's wanted, the Bears want them, Let's give him a contract, let's extend them, let's not mess around with it.

Or do you say you know.

Or do you say you know.

What, dude, like like, go see what your value is and then this is what we're going to offer you, or maybe not? I mean, how does that all play out in your eyes?

What, dude, like like, go see what your value is and then this is what we're going to offer you, or maybe not? I mean, how does that all play out in your eyes?

It's a weird situation because so many people thought Mike McCarthy was going to get fired and now all of a sudden, Mike McCarthy's kind of controlling things a little bit. And you know, Mike McCarthy might be in play in New Orleans as well. When you think about it. He was once the offensive coordinated there way back in the day for Jim Haslett. So there are you know, teams that are interested in him. He's one of those guys that's won a Super Bowl. He has experience, he's been around and it makes sense. So if you're the Cowboys and you want to bring him back, don't let him go out there and hear what's out there. I mean, if you really want him back, and the indication is that Jerry Jones wants him back, then make it happen. But you know he's also got coaches that have expiring contracts, so you know they're going to be out there too. So I think if you want to get him back, you should do it as quickly as possible. If you don't and you're not real sure about it, let him go out there and see what's out there. And then if you come back and say, Okay, well you didn't get anything, we'll give you this, then I think you do it that way. But if you really want to back, make it happen. Don't let him go out on those interviews.

It's a weird situation because so many people thought Mike McCarthy was going to get fired and now all of a sudden, Mike McCarthy's kind of controlling things a little bit. And you know, Mike McCarthy might be in play in New Orleans as well. When you think about it. He was once the offensive coordinated there way back in the day for Jim Haslett. So there are you know, teams that are interested in him. He's one of those guys that's won a Super Bowl. He has experience, he's been around and it makes sense. So if you're the Cowboys and you want to bring him back, don't let him go out there and hear what's out there. I mean, if you really want him back, and the indication is that Jerry Jones wants him back, then make it happen. But you know he's also got coaches that have expiring contracts, so you know they're going to be out there too. So I think if you want to get him back, you should do it as quickly as possible. If you don't and you're not real sure about it, let him go out there and see what's out there. And then if you come back and say, Okay, well you didn't get anything, we'll give you this, then I think you do it that way. But if you really want to back, make it happen. Don't let him go out on those interviews.

Pete, we got about thirty seconds before I let you go. Best game this weekend, wild Card weekend will be.

Pete, we got about thirty seconds before I let you go. Best game this weekend, wild Card weekend will be.

What you know.

What you know.

I'm intrigued by the Bills and Broncos because that defense matching up against that offense, that could be fun to watch. I mean, it really can. I think Chean Pagne's done a great job, but that defense, when you put you know Sartain can play man coverage and and how do you slow down that offense? I think that that one's intriguing from a from a strategic standpoint. I think from a from a close game being close standpoint. I think I think Campa Bay Washington will be fun. I think that's going to go up and down the field and both teams will score. So from an offensive standpoint, that might be the most entertaining.

I'm intrigued by the Bills and Broncos because that defense matching up against that offense, that could be fun to watch. I mean, it really can. I think Chean Pagne's done a great job, but that defense, when you put you know Sartain can play man coverage and and how do you slow down that offense? I think that that one's intriguing from a from a strategic standpoint. I think from a from a close game being close standpoint. I think I think Campa Bay Washington will be fun. I think that's going to go up and down the field and both teams will score. So from an offensive standpoint, that might be the most entertaining.

There he is at Prisco CBS Pepe Prisco.

There he is at Prisco CBS Pepe Prisco.

He is a fight.

He is a fight.

You're the You're the guy who fights with yourself single morning in the mirror.

You're the You're the guy who fights with yourself single morning in the mirror.

A proud be a proud sun devil p s B. We can't wait to see what they.

A proud be a proud sun devil p s B. We can't wait to see what they.

Developed into Pete.

Developed into Pete.

Hey, they're here to stay.

Hey, they're here to stay.

That's one time.

That's one time.

Come on, all right, guys, we need that positivity Pete.

Come on, all right, guys, we need that positivity Pete.

There he is, Pete Prisco. Hey, LeVar, he almost had to burn him, didn't you.

There he is, Pete Prisco. Hey, LeVar, he almost had to burn him, didn't you.

I did almost have to burner him.

I did almost have to burner him.

You know what?

You know what?

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