Hour 2: Jonas, Brady & LaVar – Ignoring Good Advice

Published Mar 26, 2025, 1:10 PM

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I thought we were gonna pop it together.

If you know, you know, that's all I could say.

Yeah, I just I know that I missed the poppet song. I did not think I was ever gonna say that. Man, If you know you know sweet, it's like you never know what you had until it's gone.

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Please?

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Man. I'm gonna just leave that where it's at. Man, is this the only day, We're gonna shot out to Mambo. No, that's my song, shouts out to Mambo Sauce my Peopil's. Yeah, it's called Mambo Sauce. The the group is called Mambo Sauce. Which Mambo Sauce is you know connected to d C Sushi? Well you put it on wings and stuff like that. Oh wings, Okay, Sorry.

What's what am I going to play?

Tomorrow's whole?

Tabasco? Brady, what are you going to play tomorrow?

I have been It's funny.

LeVar got the jump on this though, and switching up the song because I have been thinking of some songs that I wanted to play.

Hold up, hey, hey, okay that it seemed like that was censored.

Rend Are you sure about this one?

Yeah?

I don't know.

I feel like I heard that.

Well I heard something say it was lit, but they added, well that did something before it. It's censor. It's censor. Yeah, it's sensor. It's sensor.

Well, don't know, there's about ten there's about ten things that we I mean, there was a lot of them, so maybe it wasn't all the way.

It feels like there was a body part mentioned that I missed the body part there.

I remember Ricky had some complaints about trying to roll this in Oh yeah, no is.

It complaints mostly about ours songs place about Jonas and I as well.

Uh, particularly this one, just this one, okay, like this one today, man.

Papa was really starting to grow on me. And instead you pull out you know, a one steak sauce.

Or whatever they get used to it. Mambo sauce. Baby damn.

Wow.

That's yeah. You know, like I said, if you know, you know, that made a lot of people happy, including myself. I'm part of the culture, man, part of culture. Don't worry about it. You know, everybody ain't in you know what I mean. Yeah, I just showed y'all true colors. Man, mambo sauce. Learn about it.

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I'm not going.

It is two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar.

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I don't know.

We're trying to effort, you know, being able to fact check that. But one of these stories it's also out, is that Adam Schefter reporting that the Titans are still open to trading out of the number one pick, but that it will take even more now to do so, following their meeting and pro day with cam Ward.

So what do you think about that, LeVar Arrington?

I mean I already told you in segment one that could that could easily be they're gauging the value of one of those picks. You know, want either Shador I mean, excuse me, either cam or Abdual, maybe even Travis Hunter. You know, they're measuring and weighing out what the value is from other from other franchises, And I mean, why not if you're playing a good game of poker, you're playing a good hand, why not check, you know, before you start raising and all that other stuff. Why not check it first? So to me, I mean, I think this is par for the course, right, Like, if you can get some tremendous draft capital off of that number one pick, and you can hit multiple position groups with what it is that you receive and maybe possibly set yourself up for the future, I mean, it's it's worth if you're not in love with the idea of taking which this is my thought is, if you're not in love with taking that quarterback at number one, and you want to get a quarterback, or you know, you want to get more more draft stock, I guess you you hope that they fall to a different a different spot. I mean, are you taking number one? Are you going? Are you getting that pick to try to go get a quarterback? I don't. I just don't know that these quarterbacks are worth all of that shuffling. So to me, you might you might move a spot or two and still be able to get the same player. You might be able to move a few more spots and get the same player that you were intending to get at the spot that you traded out of in the first place. So I don't know it's worth it's worth seeing what the value of it is. What is somebody willing to give up for that pick.

Well, and to that point, I don't think anyone's going to see the full value of it until you get to that deadline. Right, deadlines do deals, and we know that the deadline of this deal in essence as far as what the number one overall pick is worth, is going to come until the Thursday of the front of the draft, because at that point in time, you know, the Tesse Titans are essentially on the clock that day and they have to make a decision. Either they stay with Will Levis, they have a trade partner that they feel like they can get some sort of compensation back in exchange for that pick. That equates to the Kings ransom that we've seen at times that teams that have the number one overall pick or are in a position to draft a quarterback typically make for it. I mean, there's precedents for moving up one spot. This President's for moving up you know, a few spots. You know who's going to be that team.

Is a Cleveland who just wants to move up, one who's in.

A dire situation where they probably can't bring on a veteran to the contract that.

That veteran probably would want is it?

You know, the New York Giants still, you know, I personally don't know that they're going to go in that direction, at least at number three. I think there's a chance that they take one later on. I don't know that they take one a number three. Overall, despite some of like the Florio reports, as far as what the Russell Wilson contract looks like and cutting Jameis Winston and all this stuff, I would say this, they're doing all the things that you do if you're going to take that quarterback at number one.

I said that in the first hour.

Now, that doesn't mean anything other than that they're doing their proper due diligence as they should. Like I've always made the case that when you have these guys coming out as prospects, if you're not taking the time to go see them at their pro day, to go see them at the combine, interview them, talk to them. Hell, spend one of your visits on these guys, because you never know when it's gonna turn around. You're gonna have the chance to sign them or trade for them. It could be a year from now, it could be two to three whatever, many years from now, and you want to have some basis of what this player was at a time when you can collect more information about them than ever before in their life, and some teams do not.

They do not do that for some reason. And it always was my mind what I'm like, Dude, you have the chance every year to evaluate the most important asset on your roster in the NFL, as a quarterback, and you're not spending time doing it. Now.

Maybe there's a few a handful of exceptions, right, maybe the Chiefs, maybe whoever else, But I mean, think about this. For example, last year, the Carson Wentz back to Patrick Mahomes, I mean, wouldn't have been nice to know what you're bringing in as a backup, even though the guy was going as a high first round pick to the Philadelphia Eagles. Like, wouldn't have been nice to have that all that. I mean, maybe they did, but I'm just kind of saying, like, these are the sorts of things that like, look, Tennessee is doing all the right things, but there's other teams who you know should be I probably are doing it, aren't being reported on it as much. But I think that the tough decision for Tennessee. And this is what I think they're going to do if they if they end up moving on from Camboard, I think they're gonna trade for Kirk Cousins because that's really the only other play they have as far as bringing a guy who's demonstrated the ability to play at a high level in the NFL. And they're a team that probably has the cap space to be able to absorb a portion of that contract, and Atlanta can end up making that work where Tennessee will pay a portion of it, and maybe they pay a portion of they get to pick back in exchange. But that scenario is the only other scenario where you could see Tennessee out of that pick, whether it's to number two or trading anywhere else, and they still get a blue chip player with that draft pick, additional draft capital, and they use part of that additional draft capital potentially in a trade to get Cousins. That's an essence like how this whole thing would play out if they're not going to take Cambwoard at number one, Like that's the only other scenario I see for them at this point.

We were talking about this yesterday. What would be a.

Like not no chance you're making a move deal breaker type of behavior at a dinner, because if they're having this dinner with cam Ward over the weekend, is there anything Brady? If you were out to some sort of a dinner like this to where somebody could do that, it'd be like, Oh, even though they're a great player or a great person or a potential great hire, that's a deal breaker. Any restaurant behavior that you would look at and go f this. I don't want any part of this guy.

So when I was coming out as a prospect the Tampa Bay Bucks, who then had the number four overall pick and John Gruden was their head coach, they came to South then and Gruden and Bruce Allen did a dinner and they actually flew up a couple of their wide receivers, one of which I played with Marie Stovall. Great dude, like one of the all time greatest teammates ever, Like.

If you playing football with.

Them, if you wanted to have if you were working in the corporate space, like Mosto is one of the greatest human beings ever. PA guy the go LeVar, but you want him on your team, like he's that type of guy, right, So they fly up and I believe it was him and Mark Clayton, and we were kind of sitting at dinner and they were like, hey, I have a beer or whatever. And at that point, like, I mean, you're trained, and you're told like, hey, like yeah, i'd be careful. You never know how they're going to be judged, Like they're they're monitoring everything you do. And in retrospect, I probably could have had a beer or two and been fine, like Gruden and those guys would have been fine with that. But I was like, no, I'm good.

You know, you gotta you know, we got to work out and early more and tomorrow and all that, and you know, you're kind of saying the things that you know at the moment.

Obviously I meant that, but like I would have gladly had a beer with them too. It just wasn't really sure how to gauge that.

And so we have dinner and we kind of go downstairs and John Cruden, Bruce Allen stayed up and like the little private room they had runned, and so.

We go down I'm like, hey, should I have had a beer with them or not? I'm like, I'm not sure how to judge that, And they're like, hey, man, just be on the lookout. Man, it's like you never know. He's like, it's hard to judge. Like they asked us to come up here and like, and Maurice was like, man, I had no problem doing it. You know, I get to come back you know in the spring time and all that, see my alma mater. But he's like, but we also didn't know, like if we said no, like what does that mean for us? Like it was one of those like involuntary workout type things that you typically have where you're like, it's involuntary or you know, it's it's it's voluntary. They'll say, excuse me, but it's not. It's more involuntary, and so they're just like, nah, we think you made the right choice. I was like, okay, all right, but you never know.

I mean that's the hard thing is uh, these these dinners, they're really just trying to get to know who you are.

And it's way.

More laid back because they've got to spend probably a couple of hours with you, as opposed to others where it's like, you know, you're not really sure. Like when I went to Washington and I know, visited Levar's old employer and now commandos. There was a group of prospects together, so it was kind of a mix of players together, and so they're more looking for how you intermingle or mix with the other guys, you know, which you'd be like with a teammate with the other guys. And so it all depends on what the setup is for that specific dinner. But I'm sure they're going to try to pick Campboard's brain, how he operates, how he thinks, His background is history, like the adversity has been through, how he's fought through it, all those things, the questions he's gont have to answer.

Yeah, you got to take into consideration the behavior of those those franchise people as well. You know, that's that's kind of like they treat it almost like it's a safe environment. You know, it's like an inside. It's their created environment. So you see, you see characteristic traits and you see behaviors from them where you could equally ask the same question to the prospect.

Yeah, like what if you didn't want to go there, and so you just sabotaged yourself and just got throttled.

But it's not even about sabotaging yourself. It's about this is a getting to know one another process and and I could tell you honestly, when I did visit with with the thin Skins, that ended up drafting me. Now the commanders, you know Dan Snyder was he he had like he was vulgar like with some of the things that he was saying, and it was kind of it was like I didn't really know how to handle it, you know, like I didn't really know how not not handle it, handle it as strong word not I didn't know how to comprehend how he was communicating what was he saying. And it doesn't I'm not going to get into all of that, but but the idea of it was it's like dang, br like you own this team, like like you said, what like you know, but but again so it's not as though you got it like this whole perfect, perfect type of pristine type of movement. Like when they talk about the owner that was talking about Cam Newton, I want him to be he you know, he's tall or he's beautiful, and I want him to be a fine man. Whatever it was he was using, I want to describe. You don't remember the owner saying what he wanted Cam Newton or he thought about how Cam Newton looked and now he wanted him to look. It was like, did it like there was a sound bite of it. Was this Jerry Richardson, that's the older dude that passed it, didn't pass away or whatever he sold the team.

Can you look at it? What did Jerry richards say?

He said something about how he wanted him to look and when I look at him, this is what I think, and stuff like that was kind of it was awkward like that to even but.

It sounds very awkward. Sounds like I don't remember that. No, I remember something of the sort. But it sounds like the the old old school.

Draft if you know what you know, I could dig I could dig it, but I could definitely dig it. But but yikes. I just all I know is is that so when you're talking about when you're talking about behavior that could be a turn off to you know, the organization and to the representatives them guys are trying to like getting good with you, you know, like hey man, and what's going on like depending on I'm I'm assuming depending on them trying to be relatable to the player, they gonna come at you a certain type of way. And that's that's you know, I think that's pretty interesting because they might have misjudged me. You know, I might, I might look this way, but I do have very conservative ways of doing things. Man, don't don't like, don't come try to hit me up with with the black hand shake you know what I mean, like the black hand man, you know, like, don't don't try to hit me with the soul brother hand, Like shake my hand?

What do you mean by that? Like you know what I mean, you know, like twisting the thumb and that.

If I know you, if I know you and that's how we vibe, then that's how we vibe. But if I don't know you, like you shake my hand, I'll shake your hand, I'll look you in your eyes. We're on a business. This is business. This isn't personal, So don't come.

Is Dan Schneider flew me to Washington purely to hear the story that I told Coach Gibbs and those guys in the room about doing the bench press test at the Combine, Like that was the only reason they flew me in there to visit I'm pretty sure, I mean outside again of doing their due diligence, so which.

I'm sure he wanted to look at you too well that I might have been part of it, but he wanted.

The first time I got in there, I basically went right up to his office and he was like, all right, so let me hear this story.

I'm like, oh, all right. Yeah.

Basically, I was being badger to do the bench press test and I called my agent, Tom Condon, who was like.

A bird's I think they'd be a bad idea. Uh, you could blow out your peck. You know, you got a pro day the next week. I think that would be a very smart decision if you did that. And then I called Charlie Wise and Charlie White gouse here one dumb mother effort. If you're gonna go out there and bench you know, for a smart kid, you could say some really dumb f and stuff. Sometimes you dumb.

And I was just like, okay, I think I don't even know if I said bye. I think I just hung up. And then I looked at that. I looked at the scout, and the scout goes what he said, go, he's not a fan either.

I was like, but I'm gonna do it because I'm also kind of, you know, bored. Right now, we're not really doing much so, and then that's how we did it, and that was in essence the story. And I'm like, you went, like what's that?

You went and did the bench press for some meathead and some dress clothes.

It was it was all because the area of Scout who was taking us around was the Denver Broncos Area Scout and he was like pumping me up the whole morning, and I said, dude, I'm not doing this, like I'm not doing anything here this week. I've got a pro day next week. I'm gonna try to do all I can at that. And I don't know if I told him about my knee or not, but I was like, I'm not really one hundred percent.

So he was trying to like you Dumbo.

You know, for a smart kid, you could be pretty f and stupid sometimes, and I was just like, I've heard this before. Yeah, And so then I was like you before, oh bro, I got I got chewed out one time we were coming from and mind you, back then, you would go do a pregame mass at the Basilica Notre Dame, and usually Father Doyle, who was our team chapelain, he would he would do it and you get you know, you go on and you walk.

Through this kind of procession that would that would snake to the stadium. And I remember, I think we were playing North Carolina and it must have been my senior year, but it was one of those times where like the weather was turning and Henry Scroop, who was our equipment manager, had had asked me at some point in time. I don't know if it was Thursday or Friday. He's like, Hey, what kind of socks would you want to wear for the game? And I said to him, I go, I don't. I don't know, I don't really care. I mean, I don't.

I think the long like blue ones are pretty dope for you know, if that's what we're wearing.

And I just kind of like in passing, and so we go, you know, go to mass We're walking through, like you get through the crowd. You see family friends, people were getting fired up, and we're like, yeah, let's go.

You know, we're getting in.

That locker room kind of getting fired up before pregame warmups and and all I'm here is uh, someone grabs me like hey, coach wants to see you. And I was like okay, And so I walk into coach's office and he just sits down.

He goes, who the F do you think you are? You all of a sudden are making decisions about our uniforms. You're the guy it's gonna be. And I'm like, I'm like what. I'm like, well, I'm like what did I do? And so he probably lay on base me for about, I don't know, three minutes straight. He's like, no, no, don't talk, don't say a word, don't say an F word, and he just kind of cusses me out. So I kind of walk out and then I walk over my locker and I'm like, oh, I hadn't been the long socks.

That's the only thing that can come to mind. So I don't he was just he was just he was growing you. That's all. He loved you. That's that's that love relationship there. I don't.

I don't know.

I think I sometimes what coach would do is, you know, that was a team that we were expected to be. We're wanted to be the mother, and I think he I think he didn't want us to get too loose, even though, like our teams the last two years with him, we played our best football.

When we were loose.

It was like the games when we were tight is when we didn't, and that was where like players have a better feel for that than coaches do oftentimes.

But anyway, there was plenty of those converses.

He had a feel for it though. When y'all played loose or whatever, whatever he was trying to achieve, he had a feel for it. It's interesting because if I were coaching you, I probably had the same relationship with you. It'd probably be the same exact way. That's his way of challenging you, because chances are he's probably not smarter than you, So I'm not going to try to outsmart you.

I'm just going he actually got into Notre Dame as a student, so he definitely.

I don't know, Bro, you're a pretty smart dude. I don't know anyway. I'm just saying I would challenge you and in those ways, but I would challenge you differently as well, because I'd be sitting there like I gotta I gotta check his pulse. Let me check your pulse, because you could be too good for your own good. Sometimes that's that's what you know. That's what they say about them, them cats, like how you are, they could be too good for their own self at times, so I would have challenged you the same exact way. Obviously it worked. You know, shots out the coach wise, Shots out to you wherever you're at, y'all shots out to you. You know what I mean to all the coaches out there that challenge their guys to be more than what they even maybe even thought they could have been. Shots out to all the coaches out there.

That want to clean up a couple of things here. Uh, I did Grock what a black handshake is? Okay, didn't find anything really noteworthy, just you know, as somebody wearing black gloves shaking your and now.

Do the soul hand? Did you do the soul brother had I'll do that one during the tripid soul brother han see that one might come out.

One during the break also lead do we have an update on LeVar mentioning that Jerry Richardson was sexually attracted to Cam Newton.

What I was able to find was a bit from Jerry Richardson on the Charlie Rose Show talking about how he wanted Cam Newton to work on his appearance.

Here's what you go.

Well, I wanted to look him in the eyes, so to speak. And when he came in he wanted he started to talk about his past, and I said, Cameron, and I really don't care to talk about your past. I think we need to talk about the future. And we did that, and I asked he was dressed perfectly. I said, do you have any tattoos? He said no, so I don't have any. I said, do you have any piercings? He said no, sir, I don't have any. And I said, we want to keep it that way.

Well, why are you worried about if I got pierces? Do you want to see where my piercing is? Ms? Mister owner, you want to see where my piercings are? You want to see my tattoos? You want to see. What you're asking me is that does I have anything to do with the way I'm gonna play?

That's a little weird.

H I looked him in his eyes before I started asking him these real personal questions. Do you have any tattoos? Because you're dressed perfect? Oh my gosh, that sounds like you tried to get him out of his clothes.

Cap Well, it is draft season, folks, so.

At least y'all know I'm gonna be pulling stuff out my you know, my backside. I do give y'all some real, some real movements here. I did. I did recall that.

I did recall that Cam's got that he's got had a Donice effect on people.

I'm telling you you all need to watch the little skit. I just sent you to the brig.

They listen, you know, Brady, some people just want it more, you know what I mean. Some people are just really willing to go that extra length.

All right, he looked perfect.

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Coming up in a little over twelve minutes from now, we are going to hand out our midweek awards, the good, the bad, the ugly. These will be yours here on FSR. Just to your friendly reminder, par for the course every single off season, apparently we're going to try something else with the kickoff. So apparently that is going to be the going to be the plan here in the NFL. So here's the very latest from somebody, Mark Maski at the Washington Post. I feel like he's been kind of dubbed the kickoff guy as far as the reporting goes every single offseason, he's the guy who's got the very latest on the new tweaks that they try and in socialist So he says, the NFL's Competition Committee is likely to propose moving touchbacks on kickoffs from the thirty to the thirty five yard line. So the return rate went up eleven percent this past year in favor, but still the second lowest return rate in NFL history, even though it would increase by about eleven percent year over year.

So here we go.

Again, away, just do away with it. Wait on the yard line.

This isn't what bothers me.

What bothers me about it is instead of just moving back where we kick from, if you want to get more kicks, right, you can move it back five ten yards.

Just move it back.

We keep trying to create some sort I mean, if you're incentivizing the team for a fair catch, yet you want more returns, Like, how does that make any sense? You're gonna make a fair catch now they're gonna get the ball at the thirty five instead of the thirty.

Could someone help me understand this?

How that that incentivizes there to be more kickoff returns.

I look at it like this. If you move them back, where are you lining the players up there? Do you keep them where they're at?

Like?

Keep them they did this year? Okay, But if you keep them where they're at close like they did, then when should they take off? When should they run? Just when they catch the ball? Is it when he kicks the ball until so they can't move until he catches the ball? Yeah? I just think that it's all they're They're they're trying to navigate the concussions situation for one. Now they're trying to address not having returns at all because they're kicking the ball out of the end zone consistently. At the end of the day, either you're going to choose one or the other. Either you move them back, move them back and let them run, like, let them run, that's run down, let them block, run down. You block, you try to see what happens, or you think that it's it's a safety liability and you don't want to do that. So just do away with the play. If you're going to keep getting touchbacks off of a play that has been a part of historically the game of football based upon one of these two scenarios, just do away with the play. Just do away with it, Like, I don't I don't understand if you're going to keep trying to figure out how to run a play that has worked quite quite fine for for some time now. Legs are getting bigger, so now where you're kicking the ball from isn't quite the same. They can kick it out, which was used to be an asset to have a kicker that could kick like that. I remember Sebastian Janikowski like was starting that whole, that whole movement of guys who had a strong enough leg to kick the ball like like it was a field goal on a kickoff, and I remember that it was like a phenomenon, like oh gosh, like we got a guy who could kick it out of the end zone every time. That's great for us. Now it's not seemingly so great that it keeps going out of the end zone. So now you're trying to get returns and encourage returns, but now you're fighting against our guys getting concussed. Is this the most dangerous play in football? And all these other narratives, just I mean, if you're gonna keep trying to figure it out, just do away with it.

Well, it is on the kick, by the way, I was wrong about that, not on the catch.

I'm not sure I thought it was a kick.

I thought I'm the kick.

But right, So then the general point is if you move them back and you kick it and they leave at the point of the kick, those guys are going to be surrounding they they might even be able to catch the ball by the time it's coming down, you know what I mean, Like it it's a timing thing. I don't know, man, it seems weird to me. Just kick the ball.

Well, the difference is it doesn't really matter, right, if you move them or whatever else, because the general point is that if they're kicking the ball out of the end zone because of where they're kicking it from, and that's equating to more touchbacks, and teams aren't bringing it out as much because you want to make this a play that still is a part of the game. I just don't understand why we haven't entertained the idea of moving the kickoff back then to make it more difficult to tick it out of the end zone, especially if there's inclement weather, and that becomes harder to do right now, if you get a win at your back, sometimes to your point, it doesn't matter how far you move it back. If a guy's got a huge leg and there's a win at his back, he could probably still blast it to the point where a team could you know, have a touch back. But just generally speaking, why have they not entertained more of just moving the ball back on the kick. I mean you're talking about five ten yards difference, and so even after the kick, if he's moved back that minimal amount, it's still to me wouldn't equate to like the guys beating up on him like usually the kicker has enough time to be able to receive the football and decide if he wants to return or not, or make that decision while the ball's in the air. But like, we keep talking about this play, like we need to, you know, find a way of making it safe or find a way to make the you know, more kickoff returns and make it a more meaningful play. Yeah, but then we keep incentivizing the team be get a touchback. It's like now that yeah, getting a fair catch on a touch back, you should be at the thirty No, I should be at the thirty five, right, you should be at the thirty five. Well, why the hell if you're a team at that point would you ever want to make a return unless you're in a dire situation. But run the risk of getting in anywhere other than the thirty five, which is really good starting position. Most quarterbacks now can throw the football at least sixty yards.

I mean, you're almost and especially at the end of games. I mean think about this, at the end of games, you're almost giving teams a layup where like, if they can, they'll just try to fair catch it. Now, that's going to force other teams to squibkick and usual those teams you know who are I mean, there's gonna be some sort of if this could pass, adjustment to it. But it's like, man, I just I don't understand the why we haven't had the debate about just moving the ball back if you want more returns, that's what this is ultimately all about.

We've been doing this show four years.

We've talked about the kickoff and a potential change to the kickoff every single offseason.

We've been doing the show.

Every single year. Well, maybe we should tweak this, mate. I got an idea, Why can't you just go back to the way it was. Let's bring back wedge breakers and violence, and let's just leave it in God's hands. Hey, you might get hurt, but if you've got a thick enough neck and you've got a cowboy, callar on, come lay the wood and deal with the repercussions afterwards.

I guess he's on block A, you know.

Just tired. Yeah, I'll bet on that.

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We've got our midweek Awards, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad, and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good, bad and ugly.

All right, lead to lap. What do we got?

Well, as we do each and every Wednesday, we start with the good news and this week Brady is delivering the goods.

Oh heck, yeah, Well, I appreciate the honor. This doesn't come around very often. I feel I can get slighted quite a bit. But yesterday I was able to go be a part of a charity event for the Orange Bowl, which all the proceeds from their annual golf outing and they raise thousands upon thousands of dollars for extra yard for teachers, and it's awesome. It recognizes that teachers, helps provide them with resources, recruitment and professional development, and so obviously you've got a lot of great people out there who choose to get into the teaching profession to impact a lot of young people and help raise future generations. Be a part of that process. So it's always an awesome event. It's grown year over year every year. So shout out to the Orange Bowl, shout out to the extra yard for teachers.

But that is the good for this week.

Kenv good without the bad. Jonas what was bad this week?

These draft rumors every year, and I'll never walk away from it or run from it.

I love it.

I love the draft.

I read every report all like all of it, for the most part, is garbage, and we fall for it.

We take the bait.

We just assume myself included that this means this, and this team's going to go that, and it's smoke screen here, and like you know this, you know this every year, you know it's smoke screen season. Yet for some reason I cannot resist the opportunity to either read it or believe it or buy into it. And then ultimately the draft comes around and ninety five percent of what was reported on doesn't happen, never came close to ever happening. But for some reason, this time of year, I always sink my teeth into it and can't get enough.

And from bad to worse, LaVar what was ugly this week?

One hundred and twenty five complaints sent to the FCC based off of one, Kendrick Lamar's performance of the halftime show at the Super Bowl. Yeah, how about it?

Now.

Interestingly enough, they didn't just target Kendrick Lamar, they targeted Serena Williams, scolding her for being a part of a show like that and promoting gang affiliations, which recently has become a very hot topic in LA if you're paying attention. Kanye West was also targeted in these letters that were going to the FCC with his commercial that aired in three different markets. But interestingly enough, one hundred and twenty five of those those complaints doesn't compare to the fact that one he had one hundred and thirty three point five people that watched the show, which is crazy. And Jennifer Lopez and Shakira had somewhere around thirteen hundred FCC complaints, which may put it in the proper perspective, thirteen hundred complaints written to the FCC.

Jyl and Shakira didn't.

Yeah they did. I wonder what those complaints were. They didn't list those. Igine you can't imagine me neither. I mean, it should have been compliments that were sent instead of complaints. But you know, to you two, you know maybe it was been you know I Flack and sh Anthony, you know all the axes,

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