2 Pros and a Cup of JoeHour 1: Jonas, Brady & LaVar – Sweet 16 Fireworks
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and there are shakeups in the standing after Texas Tech beating Arkansas. The age of Cinderella’s is over thanks to NIL. Abdul Carter skipping workouts at his Pro Day could prove problematic. Plus, Russell Wilson must have a been a handful behind the scenes on ICYMI.
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on this Football Friday, we are going to talk about the NCAA tournament. The first portion of the Sweet sixteen is in the books and how did it impact our rankings and also our names in the hat. We've got coaches leaving, coaches that say they're not leaving. We've got a coach who's being criticized again. A lot of March Madness tourney talk coming up on the show. We've also got draft speculation around the NFL, whether it's Abdul Carter, Chador Sanders. We've got another edition of In case you missed it. We've also got history potential in the NFL draft, and we're going to close up shop with Lee's leftovers. It's all yours coming up next here, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on a Football Friday, Fox Sports Radio.
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So this should be an insufferable day. From Brady Quinn. I don't I quit. I don't even want to talk about it, like, let's I'll wait till the next segment. He he can, he can live in his I'm number one ranking.
I'm convinced now that Brady Quinn only reproduces and does sports information.
That's it. Like that's all he does. That's it.
Nothing else. Yeah, there's nothing else to Brady Quinn's life. Reproduce Loving Ball and Ball that's it. Ye.
Good for him, man, good for you, bro.
I mean I did used to love the movie Loving Basketball back in the day. Those are my favorite movies. Interesting, Omar Epps.
So it was The Actresses Day. Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's a good movie.
Uh So, congratulations.
You know Charles O'Bannon was in that in that movie? Was yeah, I remember that they mentioned O'Bannon brothers. Somebody were talking about some one of these teams they were talking about.
They brought up the chime in with just that. LeVar already said ten seconds ago. Uh oh, Lee, did you miss that? Sorry? Was yeah, I couldn't hear.
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He looks like he's been he's been on it, Like he looks like he's he's here and he's coherent and everything is good, all all systems go. Maybe it was just you know, distracted, that was a little that was a tabit disturbing. Though I ain't gonna lie like whoa talk about live delay.
You're you're great. But that's the thing is, sometimes you get on that delay and I'm like.
Wait a second, is Lee, what's going on here?
He was really looking it up though, I was like he had his head down type and the dead.
I was like, I don't get it. All right, Well there you.
Go, Lee, How are we looking at UH on the bracket challenge standings? Because I congratulations to Alabama Florida. You can Texas Tech.
That'd be ten dollars because because here's the thing, right, we all know Brady's number one on the list. He's moved up to number one.
But first off, not not everyone knows that I wasn't number one yesterday.
We do.
We we know it like everyone has in everyone put it to you like this.
Jonas knows it.
And the only reason why Jonas brought this up is because now he's he's slit in front of me. No, that's that's the only reason why you're doing that, and that makes you passive aggressive. But that's important. That's in the top test man. The Jonahs in front, No, we are neither one of us are in the top ten anymore top fifteen. It wasn't out of the ten. I don't give a damn bro. I quit soon as I saw my rank, I quit pull my.
Name out of the bracket.
Man.
So you don't feel like Texas Tech when you're down by like, what you know, thirteen points whatever it is, double digits, you don't feel like you can come back in the last five minutes.
What a hell of a blow of elite? What were they down sixteen points thirteen? So it's crazy, man, they looked like they was cruising to the victory.
Man, you'd think that you defend the three a little bit better in those instances.
But that's coach cal for you. That's coach Cals.
Yeah, what does what's the dude's name, Tip Tipton or what's his name?
Like, you know he's topping. You know he's going to get.
It topping, topping, topping, top if you were bad, bad basketball player, top your isp, top it topping?
Yeah, DJ, topping, is that what I'm thinking of?
Sure, well I'll say this, Labur, if you get your if you call it Michigan over Obama to win it all, which I'm still alive, then you are pretty much gonna win the whole thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think really anyone in front of you has Michigan.
I got Michigan State, not Michigan Michigan State. I'm sorry, Yeah, which I am looking kind of good right now. I looked at their pathway to the four. I feel pretty good they play tonight. We'll see.
Today will be moving day because there's there's there's gonna be differentiation between a lot of people in the brackets to see who does what, who goes where. Like I said, like I've got Purdue over Houston. It's a four over a one, so that's a little you know, I could end up undoing me there and then Kentucky ever Tennessee, which harder being a team three times in a season like that.
I don't know.
Those were some good games yesterday, though I was entertained. I mean, I don't know. I don't feel the excitement that I used to feel when I was in like high school or even in college. It's like a thing to like really really watch, like try to watch as many of them as you can. I'm not really into it as much as I used to be.
There were some mass weapons yesterday, like Duke Arizona. Although it Arizona covered the number, It's like the game really wasn't they it felt like a stud though.
Yeah, he was.
Good and and look, Florida might be the best team in the tournament thus far.
Their second half team. They looked like they wanted to try to give it away in the first half and then they came out and did what they usually have done in second half of games. But they do look pretty good. Man, I don't know, it's it's I feel like it's a it's a competitive feel, that's for certain. You know, I'm curious as to how you know, exciting and how competitive the games will be now that that the you know, teams are shrinking down, some of these matchups that are are looking like they're going to take place are pretty exciting to look look out for. So yeah, and that's a great sound bite, by the way, because he was like, you know, he was humble. He's like man, coach Kyler Perry, like he really is, like man, like he's got it together this time, Like, Okay, here we go, We're going cruise to a victory, like heading to the next round.
Man, I was rooting for Arkansas too, just to stick it to that Kentucky fan base, which is the Ohio state.
They look like the better team, like literally the entire game, they look like the better team.
Or they the ohiot state of basketball because coach Cow's there.
It's just so so it's it's terrible what they've done to him, that man's reputation. And I don't blame him for blowing a lead like that when he's got all the pressure in the world because you know, he's exhibit a of hate.
And also all the players talent and money in uh in the college basketbal war.
Jeez, you got kids changing the annunciation of their last name now that they've gone to a different school.
You know.
One of the dudes on Arkansas was it he called itself something different? What he was that Kentucky that he told the PR person that called a different name, same name, asking why, reasoning why, he said, I don't know, I want you.
To say it.
It felt like it.
I want you to say it now. I knew they was gonna lose after I heard that. I mean, just made sense. Here was a whole lot of sense.
So one of the discussions was why John Calipari didn't call a timeout on the final play. There was the make by Texas Tech and Classical. Coach Cow was asked about it afterwards and it sounded like this.
The last possession there in overtime, any consideration to calling a time out there?
Yeah, But in my career, I let that go. Let the guy get to the room. They're not going to follow you, you know, And with that kind of time just me, you call a time out, now, you got to worry about what he's doing, how he's playing the inbound, what are you doing? So I usually let that go now because it ended the way it is. Yeah, I wish I would have called a timeout, but ninety nine percent of the time I let that go because now I know what they're doing, they know what we're doing. That's why we did it. The end of the half. We wanted to go at one guy and we did. Really he made a hard bump on DJ that got him kind of off balance on the shot, but you know.
It was what we wanted. Yeah, I mean, look, I buy it.
Yeah, Like the one time as a basketball coach you can really interject and have a schematic advantage.
You don't want to choose that moment.
Like, oh, they really know what you're going to do, Like you can't draw something up that maybe you haven't shown in the tournament. So far do you think they're going to be prepared for every situation of some sort of an end of game inbounds plays for a last shot?
Really? All right?
I mean this is the sort of thing that made Kentucky basketball fans nuts because this is the type of thing you do when you say, I just let it play out, when you feel like you have superior talent, You're just like, my guy's gonna beat their guys, So why not just let those guys go out there and play.
That sounds but it sounds nice in theory, But don't most of the best basketball coaches take the time out set up a play for that best player.
Like the whole point of basketball is it's not that that best player of his isn't good enough to beat whoever's on him, or to beat a potential double team or make the shot. It's the fact that you're there's the coach to put together a play to get him the basketball, to help him get that free shot. Like this is what frustrated Kentucky fans is he relied way too often on the talent of his rosters to win games, and it gets exposed at the end of games. I mean, at least The free throw shooting was much better last night for John cal Perry team, which has been has plagued him throughout the course of his career with poor free throw shooting. So I wasn't surprised to see the comeback. I have picked Texas Tech only because I think not that I knew they'd be facing like Arkansas and be even in talent. I just felt like, you're never out of a game when John cal.
Perry's your coach, thinks, what was this like just a third third where they like they made history on this comeback.
It was like the second biggest Okay sweet see history.
But but that's how he coaches end of game scenarios. He has a heart. Early in the tournament, they couldn't inbound the ball. We kept talking about that they fired off two timeouts, brought their last two timeouts because somehow he didn't communicate it that he could run, that his player could run the baseline to inbound the basketball. Neither time did he do it until after they burned two timeouts. It's it's always something that can be directly related back to John Caliperry.
You know what's crazy about that is Florida was turning the hell out of the ball over. They were turning the ball over like crazy in the first half of that game, and then everything changed when they came out. It's like when you hear I think I was Florida, I'm pretty certain it was.
I was just say that they out rebounded I mean it was it was almost two to one.
You know, they're kicking offense Maryland.
Maryland was very poor on the offense side of the ball, but their defense was not too bad. But they were like turning the ball. Florida was turning that ball over. I'm pretty certain that was Florida. Like they had like ten turnovers or something like that in the first half. I believe anyway, they they corrected it. Like it's almost like you got to ask yourself the question that deep this deep into the tournament. If you're gonna make all your mistakes, you make all your mistakes in the first half, and then the coaching comes into play and you come out and strategically you should be sound enough in the second half to take over the game and win the game. So now that that begs the question. When you have as much talent as John Kyler Perry has, how do you blow that large of a lead in the second half of a game.
Are you guys going to sit here and say that coach Kyle is not capable of adjustments.
Is that what you're gonna say. I'm not.
I'm just saying I'm just looking at it from I'm just looking at it from what I saw.
I'm not.
I'm just asking it bags the question. That definitely bags the question. If you have that much talent and you were able to do it, get to that lead at the end of the half, Like you go into half, you're coming out, how do you blow a set second half? League went in theory, you're supposed to go into the locker room and make the adjustments and do what it is that you need to do that's going to make you better, not worse, not the same, but better in the second half of the game. If you're better in the second half of the game, then NA should have won that game by thirty two points, by forty points.
Thirteen with four minutes left. That's gonna that's a brutal pill to swallow if you're of those players like.
That's like how we played Michigan my last year in school. We went into prevot with eight minutes left in the game. Why the hell you going into prevot defense and eight minutes is left in the game? So stupid.
Oh it hurts still to this day.
It does carry the narrative though, that despite whatever happened in the regular season the conference tournament, if Kentucky and Mark Pope can advance and they get further in year one for Kentucky program, that you could say like kind of got pillaged, like I would. I think most people would agree. You know, the players that left went with calt Arkansas, you know what he left for and everything else. I think you'd say like they were probably in a better spot yere one for coach cow So if Mark Pope Kentucky end up beat beating Tennessee and getting further, you'd have to feel.
Good if you're a Wildcats fan.
I know it's early, and I don't I don't think you need to get a Final four appearance necessarily. I don't know that you need to win a national championship, But you'd have to feel like okay, like kind of a cigh of relief or a deep breath that this is this has been good, like this has been a foundation.
You can laugh, I'm just being honest, I just it's why I like college sports, because the fan bases are so fanatical that there's a that there's a segment of the population and a large segment in Lexington that are probably like, listen, we understand, like the expectations weren't as high for us this year. As long as that guy doesn't win, Like that's the other part of this. And he's probably celebrating last night because of what happened.
Probably, But it's also.
A bit hilarious too, because the SEC has the tradition of like, if their team can't win it, they just start rooting for their conference.
You know. You always hear the SCC SAC SAC and you're like, well, you're not in it, Like, oh, you're just lumping along with.
The rest of the conference, you know, Like you don't hear the Big ten to it, Like you don't hear Ohio State rooting for a Michigan Oh.
Oh big ten, Big ten, Like no one's doing that. It's only in the SEC.
We're like, well, we can't do it, but they not in this case, like not when it comes to basketball. So I would be curious to see how today's games go for me personally, those are the ones that are like separating. But one thing stood out that really bothered me, and that was seeing the move of Kevin Willard, who's going to leave, and he's telling his team before the Sweet sixteen game at Maryland before they take on Number one Florida, Hey, guys, let's go win this thing. Let's go win a national championship. But when it's.
All over, I'm going to Villanova. I mean, first off, is that a Is that a lateral move?
No, it's the only reason why it's not a lateral move is because the complaints that continue to surround Maryland have been like noted and documented. There's no real supporting of no real backing or buy into building up the nil space and the programming, like the assistance of these coaches, whether it be the football team or the basketball team, which the basketball team historically has been, you know, the bread winner in terms of the success and attention and you know, fame of the school.
And he just doesn't.
He didn't, and he just talked about it in a press conference I believe not too long ago. He raised the point and was just basically like, if it stinks that we can't get any more support than what we're getting this point.
So the reason why I think people have an issue with his handling the like will Wade was totally honest with his players, Hey, I'm out, like just letting you guys know, like totally upfront, like let everybody know, and nobody had an issue with it.
He spoke publicly about it.
There was no hiding, and Willard's kind of been a little bit well, you know, I'm not happy with you know, we were at a Christmas party and we.
Couldn't say, like, right, that's what it was.
And then you come to find out that there's people that believed he was using that as reasoning for his out, so that when he does eventually leave, he goes, well, listen, I've been talking about this for you know, weeks now, and it was like, no, you were already negotiating the deal and now you're bringing this up.
That means that he's already been going through that and feeling that though that's natural, that's natural to feel. I mean, look at how big the storyline has been about how Cinderella has did, Like there will be no glass slippers at the NCAA Tournament anymore because of what Nil has done.
I think about it.
So, if you're one of those coaches where you're out of powerhouse, a blue blood school like Maryland for basketball, and you don't have the resources that you need, you're fighting a losing battle. You're gonna lose those guys to the transfer portal. Somebody's gonna pay your kids more. Something's gonna go wrong where you can't manage the situation the way that you need to. So why not get out and get a different situation. Okay, are you gonna do this if I come to Villanova? Are you gonna handle this if I come to Villanova? You're trying to create job stability because it's not. Coaching is so turbulent. It's such a turbulent job. It's like riding a motorcycle. Chances are if you get on a motorcycle, it's those who are riding and haven't fallen fallen yet and those who are riding that will fall. There's a chance you're gonna always fall riding a motorcycle. At the end of the day. That's the same thing with coaching. There's a chance it's those coaches that haven't been fired yet that are on their way to getting fired. It's a lock you're going to lose your job at some point as a coach, so if you want to protect your best interests, I don't have a problem with that. Now, maybe he could have handled it better, but to say that he was setting it up so he could say that he was leaving, that had to have been a frustration that he had been dealing with long before he started talking about them not being able to stay at a hotel during the holiday season. And it had to have been a frustration that his players. By the way, don't be surprised if you see some of those players like you just talked about that left Kentucky to go to Arkansas. Yeah, watch, you'll see whoever his best players are.
Again.
I'd come back to my daughter. They take their best players. These coaches take their best players. And it's funny because they know to get ready to go, prepare to leave if their coach has gone to another school.
They know.
I sat here and watched it, and as a parent, I wasn't really involved. I'm on the outside looking in. But my daughter knew what time it was when Trent took the job at Oregon. She already knew. You know what I mean, These guys already know so, and.
I think the easier part of the decision and talking about the nil conversation is one of the toughest parts for a lot of these large, big, you know programs, and especially if they're a blue blood, which I don't know if many people consider Maryland a blue blood in basketball a basketball when I was growing up, like I always consider they're a blue blood of college basketball and Kentucky obviously we're gonna throw a bunch of you know teams in that in that conversation. I think one of the battles that's happening internally at a lot of schools that this isn't really a discussion. Point that many people have brought up is the battle for dollars. Like if you have a program like Ohio State for example, that but by the way, it's had its moments in basketball where they've been really good and they've got a ton of resources, but the majority of it goes to football, and football just won a national championship. We've heard the conversation about their roster. You brought in a current sitting head coach who left that position to be your OC Like that takes money. It's not easy to do. That they did a very big staff and expensive staff, and it all worked out to win a national championship. The basketball team in a different state right now, and by the way, it has a.
Ton of resources to spend on a roster.
It's not like that everywhere though, and oftentimes because of the impact of football and how much revenue football can bring in comparison to even a sport like men's basketball, which a lot of people think it's a little bit more profitable than it actually is. A job like Villanova where you have an FCS football program that's not on that level that it doesn't need the same resources like you're gonna need at an Ohio State of Michigan, Penn State and whoever, it's a different conversation. So all the money that does come in is being funneled to that men's basketball program because that's who's carrying the flag for your university, and that's becoming more attractive.
And we've seen this constantly.
Then Patino, his son, Rick Patino's son, I believe, was a Michael yeah, or Richard rich.
Yeah. The Richards went to Xavier. Why do you go Xavier again?
You kind of look at you and go all right, like what resources does Xavier have more than New Mexico. And it's like, well, it's it's got a basketball program. And by the way, that that's that's it, Like that's what they pour all the resources into. So that's becoming more of the norm. And you're shaka smart at Marquette. Some of these are places where when they don't have either a football program at all or one that's a big, prominent Division one power for program, You're you're looking at that saying I'm the one, like, I'm the head football coach on this campus, right, Like that's in essence how it feels to be one of those basketball coaches in one of those places. So I can get it from a support standpoint, I go back to what I said yesterday though, the timing.
Of all this.
This guy's got to make a decision on whether or not he's leaving. He has to inform his team because to become public it's terrible, it's absolutely terrible. But this is all set up based on the college basketball calendar and the powers that be that no one wants to change this to make this easier. I don't understand why we're still at this point.
It's uh, it's unfortunate. I do have some good news for you guys though. Here on two pro.
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Pros and a Cup of Joeports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in a little over twelve minutes from now here from the tire rack dot Com studios, we are going to tell you about how somebody apparently had worn out their welcome, really worn out there welcome in the NFL. That'll be yours here on FSR. So, some troubling news regarding the NFL Draft. This story came out yesterday that applies to something happening today. Abdul Carter of Penn State. He will not be participating in Penn State's Pro day on Friday, according to his agent YEP today he is quote still finishing up rehab on the shoulder injury he had from the Boise State game. He may still do a workout for teams sometime in mid April. That from Drew Rosenhouse. When it comes to Abdul Carter, who was before this news came out, some thought to be the best player in the draft.
Thanks some thought to be. That's troubling. See that is troubling. I mean, I mean that doesn't help him, that's for certain.
I mean, Travis Hunter's doing everything, isn't he.
I mean, usually everybody does everything out of pro day apparently.
You know.
That just means that to me, this this and you know Rosenhaus is his is his agent, by the way, so that that may play a part that okay, And so that being said, he could be strategically trying to position at duel to work out specifically for who they want to try to go to, knowing that they can leverage the fact that, well, he is coming off of a legitimate injury on his shoulder and that wasn't too long ago, Like that's legit. And then then they uncover or find that, you know, he has that issue with his foot, the stress fracture with his foot that does not need surgery but needs time to heal. I think that removes the damning part of it. From from the equation, but I think that they're still cause for concern. And I think that, honestly speaking, and less unless Abdul goes and crushes the personal workouts with who. And I'm going to assume it's Tennessee. I'm gonna assume it's going to be the Browns, and I would assume it's going to be the Giants. I would assume he's going to work out for those three teams. I would assume he's going to have to destroy those workouts if he wants to go one, two, or three. I mean something like this, I've never really heard of it. For one, I've never really heard of a guy not working out at their pro day.
Now that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I just have not really heard of that.
But then two, if there were any questions about any type of injuries that could you know, create issues for you playing in the future for their team. You know, now you've kind of made it real. It's like now a real thing, like oh, like he's really hurt, Like I don't. I might like the way he plays, but he might drop on our board just because I mean, is he dorable?
You know?
Can can we trust that he's not going to be a guy that can't play or his injury prone. It does open up the door for those conversations to take place.
Yeah, there's a report out from a guy, Michael Rach from backer blitz dot com who says that three gms in the top ten have said quote, it shows a lack of competitiveness, and they've removed him from their draft board and it makes them wonder what was going on in State College that would lead him or what the conversations are with Drew Rosenhouse that would lead him to believe that this was a good move.
I didn't think Drew Rosenhaus was the right move for him as an agent, and I would not put that on what's going on in State College or with James Franklin or anybody else. And he was competitive enough to continue to play even when he didn't have to play through the injury that he had. It's not about competitiveness, it's about it's about competency.
According to the three gms it spoke with.
Michael Rochett is well, again, like I say, that's the competency of his representation. You can again, you have to understand that your agent works for you. You don't work for your agent. It's not bro code, it's not professional friend, it's not uncle, it's not dad. And I think too many times with certain certain athletes, they find themselves in situations where they are bamboozled by representation. I've never been a fan of Drew Rosenhaus. I've never really and he knows that you've met him though, right, Oh yeah, I'm just not a fan of I'm not a fan of him.
I don't. I don't get into good dude or anything like that.
I'm just not a fan of him because I've just I've sat in meetings where he's recruited or done his pitches and stuff like that, and there's certain questions I asked that I just didn't I didn't care for the answers, and it's you know, it's not again, it's not personal.
It's not a I don't like him personally.
It's a it's a my my, I guess, gathering of information. No, it's not don't. I mean, I don't have any personal relationship with it. I'm it's never like it's been like an exchange where I walked away from him like him and I like, I have no like, it's not that saying with Mullagatta. Like we talk about Mullagata, I don't have anything personal towards him. I just don't. I just don't like him as an agent. But I'm not a big fan of agents either, So I mean it is let me do.
This and let me try to provide a little more context. And this is of course coming from our good friend groc this morning.
It takes about let's say, it's been.
Eighty eight days to today since that boise stay came. So if the stress fracture, which I think they're trying to say maybe went back to that game, usually that's about.
Healed by now.
Even in more severe and poorly managed cases, they healed about ten to twelve weeks, so that should be healed by now. That the shoulder could be more problematic, that's probably.
Why if they are holding.
Him out of anything that might be more of the issue, they're trying to make sure that he's good to go. And I do think there's a thought here, and I understand the report from Michael Roch. I do understand general managers and their concern for a lot of the things you laid out, LeVar, So I get that like, everyone's gonna have their own opinion, their own way of looking at stuff, no different than what you just said about, you know, how you feel about Drew Rosenhaus or just an opinion. Every everyone's got their own, you know, way of looking at this. To deal with this, I think the thing you have to keep in mind is the most important thing is that they're healthy week one like that That's all that matters, right, Like I remember Joe Thomas always saying like he wasn't training for the combie, wasn't training for his pro day, he was training to be ready week one for his rookie NFL season, And I thought that was the best perspective to have. I don't know that Abdull Carter is necessarily doing that per se.
It could just be a.
Healing up from you know, a longer season than a lot of you know, teams are are accustomed to and dealing with recovering from those injuries.
It could be his agents.
As you're pointing out, the tough thing is is and this is maybe why the Michael Roch report comes out and says this with the three general managers, because you would think that he would come out and say something you know, like he would make a statement, I'm dying to be out there.
I'm dying to compete and die.
You know, you haven't really heard quite as much, and maybe we will, you know, but again, Michael Roch has been all over this. I mean, I'm not sure if you fall to stuff, but he's been deep into it.
I guess he reached out too, because a lot of people wonder what does this do for the other prospects like Edge Rusher's in the draft, and I guess, you know, he reached out Shamar Stewart's representatives and they just said, you know, it just goes to show you some people like football more than others.
Yeah.
Whatever, So I wouldn't want to go.
Let me tell you something, rookie contracts are nothing to be excited about. It's your second contract. I don't want to go to Tennessee. I don't want to spend my rookie years in Tennessee. I don't want to spend them in Cleveland. I don't want to spend them in New York. I don't want to spend them in New England. I don't want to spend them in Jacksonville. I don't want to spend it in Las Vegas. I damn sure don't want to spend it with the Jets. I don't want to spend it with the Panthers. I don't want to spend it with the Saints or the Bears or maybe even the forty nine ers at this point. But what is intriguing. What is intriguing is if I were somehow to slip so far down that I get to a team that at least market wise and team popularity wise and the connection to the team wise, maybe it makes sense where I slide to, or they move up to a Cowboys.
Team like we. I mean, again, I don't know what.
I have not had any conversations, This is void of any conversations with Abdul about what he has going on. But I just think that this is a strategic move, and that strategic move would be for him to work out for the direct teams that he is pinpointing or would want to go to.
But isn't he going to do that anyway? Well?
Yes, but but again, I mean, if he's going to do that anyway, then I think it's just knowing Abdul. I think he's being advised to do this. I don't think that this is him saying that he wants to do it. I think this is this is here's what our plan is, Here's what we want to accomplish. This is how we go about getting it done. You gotta trust you. That's the type of dude Abdul is and his and his dad. His dad is very strong and prominent in decision making for Abdul.
I just I'm wondering who the and I know we're up against him, and I'm just wondering, who are the three gms who spoke with Mike Rotchett at a backer blitz dot com that would have like like why why would they like? That's a lot, Like it's three of the top ten. I mean that's not like a small number. It's not like one rogue, you know, source from an organization. It just it feels like there's there's something there.
I don't think that that calls his level of competitiveness into question. I think that that is a poor that's a poor conclusion to come to.
Right, there's a lot of elements.
Do we want to continue this like top of next hour? I know we got in case you missed it, next and it would make sense to put a cap on.
This, Yeah, let's do it.
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Guys. In case you missed this.
Lots of reporting going on about the Hey Brady, about that signing from Russell Wilson with the Giants. Jerry Dulac of course saying that Russell wanted to remain with the Steelers right up until the end before he signed that deal with New York, but other reports have also said that Wilson and Tomlin no longer have the same type of relationship they once did.
Russell Wilson feels some type of way about how you were a bet. I thought you were a better coach, Mike.
There was a rocky relationship between Wilson and Arthur Smith.
We learned about each other time ago.
I would say this, I know before before Wilson went to Denver that New York was a place that he wanted to be. So it's kind of been a long time coming. I know it didn't happen at that point in time. I believe that's when they had taken Daniel Jones are Around that time, the draft but.
There might have been.
It might have been a year before he even left Seattle when the rumblings were beginning that he was going to leave.
That had happened. So he better make it work or it's a rap.
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