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Good morning morning.

Good morning morning.

How we feeling good? Everybody fired up?

How we feeling good? Everybody fired up?

Now? Just see what you're doing.

Now? Just see what you're doing.

I'm fired I mean I'm in here.

I'm fired I mean I'm in here.

We gotta make sure you We gotta make sure you there cute, to make sure the connection is there or something. We gotta just make sure that. That's he's got to make sure.

We gotta make sure you We gotta make sure you there cute, to make sure the connection is there or something. We gotta just make sure that. That's he's got to make sure.

Actually he was.

Actually he was.

I thought he was poking at something else. That's what I thought I thought he was.

I thought he was poking at something else. That's what I thought I thought he was.

He wasn't poking. He wasn't poking. He was he was you know, that's the you know, status quo. You know, he just got to make sure.

He wasn't poking. He wasn't poking. He was he was you know, that's the you know, status quo. You know, he just got to make sure.

But yeah, I don't. I don't feel like I ever poked, to be honest with.

But yeah, I don't. I don't feel like I ever poked, to be honest with.

There's no there's no reason to move on unless we're all moving together, you know what I mean.

There's no there's no reason to move on unless we're all moving together, you know what I mean.

So that's true. Just you just got to make sure.

So that's true. Just you just got to make sure.

That everybody responds before before he gets to going to where he's going.

That everybody responds before before he gets to going to where he's going.

I get it. Well, let me ask you this. That's a slow taxi cab driver. I understand that. That's how he rolls. That's all bammed. You know, we all move to New York together. Is it possible? If we're gonna move somewhere, we're gonna.

I get it. Well, let me ask you this. That's a slow taxi cab driver. I understand that. That's how he rolls. That's all bammed. You know, we all move to New York together. Is it possible? If we're gonna move somewhere, we're gonna.

And we certainly had to make sure you were responsive for this part of the show.

And we certainly had to make sure you were responsive for this part of the show.

What are you talking about? You did call it?

What are you talking about? You did call it?

You do call it? Just man Brady said it would happen.

You do call it? Just man Brady said it would happen.

And I'm gonna sit this segment out.

And I'm gonna sit this segment out.

Oh he's gonna get to the big Apple in Sierra and they're gonna give them their goodies.

Oh he's gonna get to the big Apple in Sierra and they're gonna give them their goodies.

Oh gosh, this is a great move. It's a great move. What's ps all? Right?

Oh gosh, this is a great move. It's a great move. What's ps all? Right?

Fine?

Fine?

This is where the story goes up, Russell Wilson, just to stop, That's where it goes up.

This is where the story goes up, Russell Wilson, just to stop, That's where it goes up.

Brand new member of the New York Giants, one rare ten point five million could be worth out the twenty one million. Whoopedee doo, congratulations.

Brand new member of the New York Giants, one rare ten point five million could be worth out the twenty one million. Whoopedee doo, congratulations.

Are you playing that Musicause the Veto's gonna take him out and getting pitched.

Are you playing that Musicause the Veto's gonna take him out and getting pitched.

I've never been a bigger Tobby DeVito fan of my life.

I've never been a bigger Tobby DeVito fan of my life.

He gonna take him out in East Jersey.

He gonna take him out in East Jersey.

Ain't gonna come back.

Ain't gonna come back.

Oh man.

Oh man.

So Pod further review the projection that the Giants were going to take Shador Sanders, you know, took a little bit of a hit, a little bit of a fender bender.

So Pod further review the projection that the Giants were going to take Shador Sanders, you know, took a little bit of a hit, a little bit of a fender bender.

How do those odds look By the way, as we talked about on Monday, when you made this grand proclamation, how the Jamis Winston signing was that they're not going to take another veteran.

How do those odds look By the way, as we talked about on Monday, when you made this grand proclamation, how the Jamis Winston signing was that they're not going to take another veteran.

What do those odds look like? Now?

What do those odds look like? Now?

I'm not ready to discuss that right now, to be honest with you. We've got a whole show to get into that. You know, we can look at that to another point, but it does feel like away we go and the New York Giants are going to be looking elsewhere with that number three pick.

I'm not ready to discuss that right now, to be honest with you. We've got a whole show to get into that. You know, we can look at that to another point, but it does feel like away we go and the New York Giants are going to be looking elsewhere with that number three pick.

Yeah, I just wonder the closer we get to the draft will I mean this to me is one of the first dominoes or whatever to say that there could be an understanding.

Yeah, I just wonder the closer we get to the draft will I mean this to me is one of the first dominoes or whatever to say that there could be an understanding.

And again, I don't want to be that.

And again, I don't want to be that.

I don't want to be that guy because I like these guys, but I just got to do my job. It could be the first sign of saying that these quarterbacks aren't top five guys.

I don't want to be that guy because I like these guys, but I just got to do my job. It could be the first sign of saying that these quarterbacks aren't top five guys.

They might not be top ten guys.

They might not be top ten guys.

I know it sounds crazy, and I know some of these teams need a quarterback and I get that, but again, do you use a number one pick, a number two pick, a number three pick.

I know it sounds crazy, and I know some of these teams need a quarterback and I get that, but again, do you use a number one pick, a number two pick, a number three pick.

Do you use it on a.

Do you use it on a.

Guy that you might you just might not be all the way clear on if they are a changer at that position. I just I can't. I think that the more we see and the more we hear, and the closer we get, I just don't. I can't see how you justify it. And that's just, you know, that's just how I'm looking at it. So them taking Russell Wilson, I don't know that that means they're not going to take a quarterback in the draft. I just don't think they're going to take it with their first pick. That's what I think the Giants select.

Guy that you might you just might not be all the way clear on if they are a changer at that position. I just I can't. I think that the more we see and the more we hear, and the closer we get, I just don't. I can't see how you justify it. And that's just, you know, that's just how I'm looking at it. So them taking Russell Wilson, I don't know that that means they're not going to take a quarterback in the draft. I just don't think they're going to take it with their first pick. That's what I think the Giants select.

Is it third? Is that right? Yeah? Yeah?

Is it third? Is that right? Yeah? Yeah?

I think The hard thing about it is if you're looking at the Tennessee Titans, and we can get into that here in a little bit. They seem very interested in cam Ward. They've gone through all of the check marks or steps you go through if you're going to take a quarterback at number one.

I think The hard thing about it is if you're looking at the Tennessee Titans, and we can get into that here in a little bit. They seem very interested in cam Ward. They've gone through all of the check marks or steps you go through if you're going to take a quarterback at number one.

So far, you know, we've heard about.

So far, you know, we've heard about.

Obviously the visits and things they've they've had with cam Ward at the Combine. They've now followed it up by being present at his pro day. They've set up a private workout that is, those are all the steps that you take if you're saying, we would like to draft this guy. We want to know more about this guy. So they seem like they're going in that direction. Now, maybe you know, it's just part of their due diligence and they're trying to learn about the player that they may not take when it's all said and done, or if they trade out of that spot, for example, But it seems like that's the direction they're going. Aland Brown's, OK, what do the Cleveland Browns do? Because they're sitting there at number two, and if they don't take cam Ward, they might be looking at shore standards, They might be looking at a quarterback, So you kind of find yourself, like we usually talk about in regards to the draft, looking at it not necessarily the fact that, hey, you know, is Abdul Carter the best overall prospect?

Obviously the visits and things they've they've had with cam Ward at the Combine. They've now followed it up by being present at his pro day. They've set up a private workout that is, those are all the steps that you take if you're saying, we would like to draft this guy. We want to know more about this guy. So they seem like they're going in that direction. Now, maybe you know, it's just part of their due diligence and they're trying to learn about the player that they may not take when it's all said and done, or if they trade out of that spot, for example, But it seems like that's the direction they're going. Aland Brown's, OK, what do the Cleveland Browns do? Because they're sitting there at number two, and if they don't take cam Ward, they might be looking at shore standards, They might be looking at a quarterback, So you kind of find yourself, like we usually talk about in regards to the draft, looking at it not necessarily the fact that, hey, you know, is Abdul Carter the best overall prospect?

Travis HANMANBSTO.

Travis HANMANBSTO.

Yeah, those are probably two better overall prospects, but they don't play quarterback. And if these you know, these places, these teams don't figure out that position, it really doesn't matter. So if the Giants are batting third in this case, not only are they looking at it saying, well, we can raid on Rogers, but it sounds like if he plays, he wants to go to Pittsburgh if that even happens, not us, and.

Yeah, those are probably two better overall prospects, but they don't play quarterback. And if these you know, these places, these teams don't figure out that position, it really doesn't matter. So if the Giants are batting third in this case, not only are they looking at it saying, well, we can raid on Rogers, but it sounds like if he plays, he wants to go to Pittsburgh if that even happens, not us, and.

So they could wait around.

So they could wait around.

But then maybe Russ might say, well, the Browns are actually you know, calling too, and maybe they want to try to bring me in, you know, to get them through this season and see where things go. So I think there's a bunch of factors that led to this and the Giants deciding that that kind of now.

But then maybe Russ might say, well, the Browns are actually you know, calling too, and maybe they want to try to bring me in, you know, to get them through this season and see where things go. So I think there's a bunch of factors that led to this and the Giants deciding that that kind of now.

Is the to strike with Russ.

Is the to strike with Russ.

I think for Russ, this is part of the best contract that he could get too out of the teams that were, you know, looking for services, you know, if it's incentivized to go up to twenty one million, great, you know, but he's at least got you know, about eleven million guaranteed in this deal, and he could feel like, well, it's more than jamis, so, at least from a veterans standpoint, I know my role. I know what I'm being paid to do. I'm being paid to be the guy. And it doesn't it doesn't necessarily exclude the Giants from taking a quarterback if one's there, if one drops them at that spot. But I think now it opens them up to, you know, other positions. Maybe they're looking at Will Campbell a tackle, you know, maybe they're looking at Abdul Card even though I don't think there's a need for it. They've got Burns, They've got Cavon Thibodeau. They signed pauls on a debo at cornerback to a pretty big deal. He's getting paid about eighteen million a year of this offseason. They've got Deontay Banks they took in the first round a couple of years ago. So I'm not really sure what they would see Travis Hunter. Maybe he's in a rotation there and he plays wide receiver as well to go along with the league neighbors. But you know, as I look at it, you know, it looks like they're setting themselves up to either take one of those blue ship prospects or even trade back. Dare I say, and be able to get to a spot where they get multiple picks to kind of help out this this roster, whether it's on offense or anywhere else.

I think for Russ, this is part of the best contract that he could get too out of the teams that were, you know, looking for services, you know, if it's incentivized to go up to twenty one million, great, you know, but he's at least got you know, about eleven million guaranteed in this deal, and he could feel like, well, it's more than jamis, so, at least from a veterans standpoint, I know my role. I know what I'm being paid to do. I'm being paid to be the guy. And it doesn't it doesn't necessarily exclude the Giants from taking a quarterback if one's there, if one drops them at that spot. But I think now it opens them up to, you know, other positions. Maybe they're looking at Will Campbell a tackle, you know, maybe they're looking at Abdul Card even though I don't think there's a need for it. They've got Burns, They've got Cavon Thibodeau. They signed pauls on a debo at cornerback to a pretty big deal. He's getting paid about eighteen million a year of this offseason. They've got Deontay Banks they took in the first round a couple of years ago. So I'm not really sure what they would see Travis Hunter. Maybe he's in a rotation there and he plays wide receiver as well to go along with the league neighbors. But you know, as I look at it, you know, it looks like they're setting themselves up to either take one of those blue ship prospects or even trade back. Dare I say, and be able to get to a spot where they get multiple picks to kind of help out this this roster, whether it's on offense or anywhere else.

Yeah, I think you do your due diligence for multiple, multiple reasons. And I mean some that would jump right out at you is well, because you want the kid and you want to make sure it's it's one of the guys that if you're going to bring them in, you do want.

Yeah, I think you do your due diligence for multiple, multiple reasons. And I mean some that would jump right out at you is well, because you want the kid and you want to make sure it's it's one of the guys that if you're going to bring them in, you do want.

To check off all those boxes.

To check off all those boxes.

Two could be you want to drive the value up of the prospect and drive the value up of your pick at the same point in time. You know, if if they believe we want cam Ward and the team wants cam Ward, then they're going to show you at some point that they want cam Ward just like you do, or or you smoke out your competitors. Right, you put something out there and you show it and you see how people react to it. I don't know how people are reacting to it behind the scenes. But if the market says, well, you don't go ahead and take them like, good for you, guys, Glad you got the number one pick. Listen, it's a big pick for any position. It's a ginormous pick. It's a larger than life pick. For a quarterback. You go number one as a QB and you can look at it from both sides of the spectrum, from the success side of it to the lack of success. I mean, there's not been what there's I'm trying to think. I don't have the list of number ones at quarterback, but I don't know the success rate. But I do remember was JaMarcus? Was he number one overall? Yeah, you have the Jamarcuss wasn't then? What what was Carrie? Was Kerrie Collins the number one overall? Wasn't that Tennessee too? That's Giants? Who was that?

Two could be you want to drive the value up of the prospect and drive the value up of your pick at the same point in time. You know, if if they believe we want cam Ward and the team wants cam Ward, then they're going to show you at some point that they want cam Ward just like you do, or or you smoke out your competitors. Right, you put something out there and you show it and you see how people react to it. I don't know how people are reacting to it behind the scenes. But if the market says, well, you don't go ahead and take them like, good for you, guys, Glad you got the number one pick. Listen, it's a big pick for any position. It's a ginormous pick. It's a larger than life pick. For a quarterback. You go number one as a QB and you can look at it from both sides of the spectrum, from the success side of it to the lack of success. I mean, there's not been what there's I'm trying to think. I don't have the list of number ones at quarterback, but I don't know the success rate. But I do remember was JaMarcus? Was he number one overall? Yeah, you have the Jamarcuss wasn't then? What what was Carrie? Was Kerrie Collins the number one overall? Wasn't that Tennessee too? That's Giants? Who was that?

Anyway?

Anyway?

So I think that is a it's a hard that is a hard, hard.

So I think that is a it's a hard that is a hard, hard.

Place to be in a position to be in to be a quarterback.

Place to be in a position to be in to be a quarterback.

Kerry Collins was the Panthers.

Kerry Collins was the Panthers.

To the Panthers, but number one though, right, he went number one. I don't recall no, no, no, kej Dick Kejona Carter went number one. He went number two anyway, No no, no, no, no no no.

To the Panthers, but number one though, right, he went number one. I don't recall no, no, no, kej Dick Kejona Carter went number one. He went number two anyway, No no, no, no, no no no.

Keijohna went number one. Carrie went like a little bit after that.

Keijohna went number one. Carrie went like a little bit after that.

But anyway, the point is the point is that I'm making it is a tough position to place somebody who may not grade out for that that spot. I don't I like cam Ward's game. I like Shador Sanders game. I really do. And I'm not saying this for any other reason other than to say, I just don't think they grade out number one slot quarterbacks. Their grades to me, don't give you this is a bona fide number one guy. So with that being said, you want to try to figure out find out the information you want to find out pre draft, and you want to contrast and you want to compare it because the guy that may grade out to be a number two, number one pick for for the draft, there may be something there that the team doesn't like. I don't know, could be an injury that pops up, you know, could be certain other factors that pop up. I just don't see this. I just don't see this as being a situation where where you have such high graded dudes.

But anyway, the point is the point is that I'm making it is a tough position to place somebody who may not grade out for that that spot. I don't I like cam Ward's game. I like Shador Sanders game. I really do. And I'm not saying this for any other reason other than to say, I just don't think they grade out number one slot quarterbacks. Their grades to me, don't give you this is a bona fide number one guy. So with that being said, you want to try to figure out find out the information you want to find out pre draft, and you want to contrast and you want to compare it because the guy that may grade out to be a number two, number one pick for for the draft, there may be something there that the team doesn't like. I don't know, could be an injury that pops up, you know, could be certain other factors that pop up. I just don't see this. I just don't see this as being a situation where where you have such high graded dudes.

I mean to.

I mean to.

Say, to me, the conversation should be over the moment. You say, Miles Garrett, this is the highest we've graded a guy since Males Garrett. Okay, what's what's what else is there to talk about? What else is there to talk about? I don't know what else there's there is to put into.

Say, to me, the conversation should be over the moment. You say, Miles Garrett, this is the highest we've graded a guy since Males Garrett. Okay, what's what's what else is there to talk about? What else is there to talk about? I don't know what else there's there is to put into.

I'll bet cam Ward goes number one.

I'll bet cam Ward goes number one.

Okay, all right. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time I'm right. It wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong. So I just and certainly it wouldn't be the first time you're right or the first time you're Yeah.

Okay, all right. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time I'm right. It wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong. So I just and certainly it wouldn't be the first time you're right or the first time you're Yeah.

We're actually on the subject because of Monday. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't.

We're actually on the subject because of Monday. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't.

I mean I think it's a it's a it's a good bet. I just don't think it's a safe bet. I don't think it's a safe one. That's all.

I mean I think it's a it's a it's a good bet. I just don't think it's a safe bet. I don't think it's a safe one. That's all.

I mean, minus sixteen hundred feels safe.

I mean, minus sixteen hundred feels safe.

But okay, take it, take it? Have we have we found the updated odds?

But okay, take it, take it? Have we have we found the updated odds?

Yes, we found the updated odds. You have to t the screws on this, all right, So a guy can't get something wrong for once. I'm curious, all right, cam Ward sixteen to one to go number one overall or minus sixteen hundred, so you bet, you know, sixteen dollars to make a buck. If you want cam Ward to go number one, then it gets interesting. Abdual Carter at number two is a minus one thirty chador is a plus one eighty five, and then at the number three, pick Travis Hunter at a minus one fifty chador to plus one seventy.

Yes, we found the updated odds. You have to t the screws on this, all right, So a guy can't get something wrong for once. I'm curious, all right, cam Ward sixteen to one to go number one overall or minus sixteen hundred, so you bet, you know, sixteen dollars to make a buck. If you want cam Ward to go number one, then it gets interesting. Abdual Carter at number two is a minus one thirty chador is a plus one eighty five, and then at the number three, pick Travis Hunter at a minus one fifty chador to plus one seventy.

So if you're cam Wood's not even a part of like the giants considerations, is that what you're.

So if you're cam Wood's not even a part of like the giants considerations, is that what you're.

Saying, No, no, no, no chance.

Saying, No, no, no, no chance.

Because they got him off the board.

Because they got him off the board.

There's a better chance of cam Neely going Now.

There's a better chance of cam Neely going Now.

If cam Ward doesn't go number one to if he doesn't go number one to Tennessee and Cleveland, he'll go number two. So he will go number two. They will take him in Cleveland.

If cam Ward doesn't go number one to if he doesn't go number one to Tennessee and Cleveland, he'll go number two. So he will go number two. They will take him in Cleveland.

Yeah, it's actually the best option. I mean the hard part for Cleveland is you know they're I think they're all trying to get cam Ward and the problem is Cleveland needs them. You can make the case Tennessee needs enough, they're overwill Levis. And for Cleveland it's a necessity because of the kind of the salary cap situation. Now you need a cheaper contract to take on and That's probably why Russell Wilson ultimately took the Giants offer is because of what they were able to guarantee and the fact that they were probably able to tell them, hey, we're not going to draft one like you can sign here, here's our guarantee, here's the incentives.

Yeah, it's actually the best option. I mean the hard part for Cleveland is you know they're I think they're all trying to get cam Ward and the problem is Cleveland needs them. You can make the case Tennessee needs enough, they're overwill Levis. And for Cleveland it's a necessity because of the kind of the salary cap situation. Now you need a cheaper contract to take on and That's probably why Russell Wilson ultimately took the Giants offer is because of what they were able to guarantee and the fact that they were probably able to tell them, hey, we're not going to draft one like you can sign here, here's our guarantee, here's the incentives.

We're not going to draft the quarterback like. We need veterans. We need to win.

We're not going to draft the quarterback like. We need veterans. We need to win.

Now, that's the pressure that we feel like we're under. And we don't feel like we're going to be able to get the best guy in the draft anyway. So if we can't get that, let's go get a veteran or a couple of veterans who we feel more.

Now, that's the pressure that we feel like we're under. And we don't feel like we're going to be able to get the best guy in the draft anyway. So if we can't get that, let's go get a veteran or a couple of veterans who we feel more.

Comfortable and confident about.

Comfortable and confident about.

And if we do take a young guy, maybe it's a guy we take in the second, third, fourth, fifth round that we feel like is a guy that can develop more. And I don't know if that's a Riley Leonard from Notre Dame. I'm not sure who they would see in that capacity, but I think that would be what the Giants are setting themselves up to do.

And if we do take a young guy, maybe it's a guy we take in the second, third, fourth, fifth round that we feel like is a guy that can develop more. And I don't know if that's a Riley Leonard from Notre Dame. I'm not sure who they would see in that capacity, but I think that would be what the Giants are setting themselves up to do.

And I think for the.

And I think for the.

Browns, they're hoping that Abdul Cardgo's number one. That's what they're hoping. But if you're the Tennessee Titans and you went through what you did last year, you're looking at the quarterback spot more than anything else. When you're at the number one spot and you have the chance to take the best guy in that draft, it's hard to pass up on that guy. I mean, even as good as Abdul Carter is as a prospect, or Travis Hunter is as a prospect, or whoever else you want to put in that category, it's it's too hard to pass up when you have control of that spot.

Browns, they're hoping that Abdul Cardgo's number one. That's what they're hoping. But if you're the Tennessee Titans and you went through what you did last year, you're looking at the quarterback spot more than anything else. When you're at the number one spot and you have the chance to take the best guy in that draft, it's hard to pass up on that guy. I mean, even as good as Abdul Carter is as a prospect, or Travis Hunter is as a prospect, or whoever else you want to put in that category, it's it's too hard to pass up when you have control of that spot.

If you were to look at the Giants off season, now that it listen, you know, apparently they're not going to be taking a quarterback. Doesn't mean it's a foregone conclusion, but it does feel like at least this opens up the opportunity to take somebody else it's not a quarterback. And I still, for the record, I don't think shoud Or Sanders gets pass six to the Raiders. I don't see it happening. Either he goes two to Cleveland or somebody trades up. I don't see the Raiders passing on him at six. But if you were to now look at the Giants offseason, I feel a whole lot better about Brian da Ball being able to make something of this year and maybe stick around for another year with the addition of Russell Wilson and Travis Hunter as opposed to just should or saying like at least it opens up the opportunity for that team to add a couple of pieces as opposed to just going.

If you were to look at the Giants off season, now that it listen, you know, apparently they're not going to be taking a quarterback. Doesn't mean it's a foregone conclusion, but it does feel like at least this opens up the opportunity to take somebody else it's not a quarterback. And I still, for the record, I don't think shoud Or Sanders gets pass six to the Raiders. I don't see it happening. Either he goes two to Cleveland or somebody trades up. I don't see the Raiders passing on him at six. But if you were to now look at the Giants offseason, I feel a whole lot better about Brian da Ball being able to make something of this year and maybe stick around for another year with the addition of Russell Wilson and Travis Hunter as opposed to just should or saying like at least it opens up the opportunity for that team to add a couple of pieces as opposed to just going.

All in at one.

All in at one.

You know what's funny before I say what I was about to say, just based off of what you're saying too, just made me think, can you imagine that Russ is so irrelevant in this scenario? Damn that it turned to the draft. It's like, we welcome in Russ. Oh, by the way, so let's talk about cam Ward to the Giants and or the Chador Sanders to the Giants and this and that and how this could all play out and like, hey, Russ bad just see what you can do with it, Bruth, Like, see what can happen with it. But let me ask you guys this, cam Ward, Schador Sanders, if they come out in last year's draft, where do they get drafted?

You know what's funny before I say what I was about to say, just based off of what you're saying too, just made me think, can you imagine that Russ is so irrelevant in this scenario? Damn that it turned to the draft. It's like, we welcome in Russ. Oh, by the way, so let's talk about cam Ward to the Giants and or the Chador Sanders to the Giants and this and that and how this could all play out and like, hey, Russ bad just see what you can do with it, Bruth, Like, see what can happen with it. But let me ask you guys this, cam Ward, Schador Sanders, if they come out in last year's draft, where do they get drafted?

I'll keep saying it.

I'll keep saying it.

I don't know that you start talking about how they stack up amongst last year's class until JJ McCarthy, Like, I think that's the player that you look at and say, Okay.

I don't know that you start talking about how they stack up amongst last year's class until JJ McCarthy, Like, I think that's the player that you look at and say, Okay.

Is it cam Or, is it JJ? Is it Shidoah Sanders.

Is it cam Or, is it JJ? Is it Shidoah Sanders.

That's how much better that class was in my opinion as prospects.

That's how much better that class was in my opinion as prospects.

And again, you're talking about two.

And again, you're talking about two.

Heisman Trophy winners Jane Daniels and then Caleb Williams before that, and you're talking about years that Michael Pennix and Bo Nicks both had their teams, you know, in much better situations and really had put together two years. It's not just like what they did their final year that the two years Knicks was in Oregon, the two years that the Penix was in Washington. I mean, both those guys like played phenomenal. And again, so that's where when I look at the tape and I kind of look at those draft classes in comparison, it's it's why again I'm looking at this draft class saying there's separation in a lot of people's minds, which there's not as much separation in my mind between Shidor and cam Ward.

Heisman Trophy winners Jane Daniels and then Caleb Williams before that, and you're talking about years that Michael Pennix and Bo Nicks both had their teams, you know, in much better situations and really had put together two years. It's not just like what they did their final year that the two years Knicks was in Oregon, the two years that the Penix was in Washington. I mean, both those guys like played phenomenal. And again, so that's where when I look at the tape and I kind of look at those draft classes in comparison, it's it's why again I'm looking at this draft class saying there's separation in a lot of people's minds, which there's not as much separation in my mind between Shidor and cam Ward.

There's not.

There's not.

And I would actually make the case that I think I think Shador his game, the way he plays, fits the NFL style more and there's a lot of people who've nitpicked at him. There's a lot of people who've talked about arm strength. You can't make up for accuracy, though, you can't make up for toughness. Some of the things he's done you can coach out of him. Get to get the ball out of his hand quicker. You know when people talk about, well, hey, he throws a lot of balls around the line of scrimmage, it's a lot of you know, bubble screens like well, so does cam Warts. So does every quarterback that's coming out in the draft right now, every quarterback go if you want to look at their throw chart and where they're throwing the football. The days of guys throwing that mid portion of the field somewhere between ten yards twenty yards downfield, it ain't happening.

And I would actually make the case that I think I think Shador his game, the way he plays, fits the NFL style more and there's a lot of people who've nitpicked at him. There's a lot of people who've talked about arm strength. You can't make up for accuracy, though, you can't make up for toughness. Some of the things he's done you can coach out of him. Get to get the ball out of his hand quicker. You know when people talk about, well, hey, he throws a lot of balls around the line of scrimmage, it's a lot of you know, bubble screens like well, so does cam Warts. So does every quarterback that's coming out in the draft right now, every quarterback go if you want to look at their throw chart and where they're throwing the football. The days of guys throwing that mid portion of the field somewhere between ten yards twenty yards downfield, it ain't happening.

You're not saying.

You're not saying.

At the college level, you either see within ten yards of the line of scrimmager behind it, or you see some throws outside, most likely downfield, and the completion percentage for those isn't that great.

At the college level, you either see within ten yards of the line of scrimmager behind it, or you see some throws outside, most likely downfield, and the completion percentage for those isn't that great.

So that's kind of what you're getting.

So that's kind of what you're getting.

And so there's going to be development for any quarterback that goes to the NFL from.

And so there's going to be development for any quarterback that goes to the NFL from.

Today's college game.

Today's college game.

So going back to the initial point though, is if cam Ward is in the minds of many others because of his natural un raw ability of view it as the number one guy and then just kind of a drop off from there in their minds, it leads me back to Russell Wilson's going to be a solution for the New York Giants in this case, and the Kirk Cousins is still something that's really interesting to keep an eye on. But as has been discussed I'm sure by you guys yesterday and maybe we've touched on a little bit on this on Monday, but that's more of a trade scenario during the draft. It's something where he doesn't want to have what happened last year happened again. So any team that takes him, I think it's going to be a team that either missed up on the chance to take a quarterback or is going to be able to find a way of trading something for him to get his services this time around as one of those bridge quarterbacks, Like that's where he's at, and I think teams would rather have Kirk Cousins probably than whatever comes after cam Warden In a lot of cases, as crazy as it is for people to hear, there's a level of play and consistency that he's had. And last year, yes, it wasn't great, so I got bench for Pennix. But I also think he was playing injured. So there's still so much that can happen between now and the draft. I just I'm a believer in like kind of what you're saying in regards to how this class is viewed. And it's not surprising you've heard that. I can tell you this much. Next year's draft class, there'll be teams tanking for that guy if they can, because you know, wonder who that guy is probably going to be arch Manning after one year. So if you want me to just go ahead and call the shot now, I'll say it now. Arch Maning will be the number one overall pick in the twenty twenty six draft. Oh okay, after one year starting at Texas.

So going back to the initial point though, is if cam Ward is in the minds of many others because of his natural un raw ability of view it as the number one guy and then just kind of a drop off from there in their minds, it leads me back to Russell Wilson's going to be a solution for the New York Giants in this case, and the Kirk Cousins is still something that's really interesting to keep an eye on. But as has been discussed I'm sure by you guys yesterday and maybe we've touched on a little bit on this on Monday, but that's more of a trade scenario during the draft. It's something where he doesn't want to have what happened last year happened again. So any team that takes him, I think it's going to be a team that either missed up on the chance to take a quarterback or is going to be able to find a way of trading something for him to get his services this time around as one of those bridge quarterbacks, Like that's where he's at, and I think teams would rather have Kirk Cousins probably than whatever comes after cam Warden In a lot of cases, as crazy as it is for people to hear, there's a level of play and consistency that he's had. And last year, yes, it wasn't great, so I got bench for Pennix. But I also think he was playing injured. So there's still so much that can happen between now and the draft. I just I'm a believer in like kind of what you're saying in regards to how this class is viewed. And it's not surprising you've heard that. I can tell you this much. Next year's draft class, there'll be teams tanking for that guy if they can, because you know, wonder who that guy is probably going to be arch Manning after one year. So if you want me to just go ahead and call the shot now, I'll say it now. Arch Maning will be the number one overall pick in the twenty twenty six draft. Oh okay, after one year starting at Texas.

I buy that just because of who he is. I buy that. But the kid can really play. I mean, you see him on film. He jumped off film. I asked, you, guys, what's it going to make sense to take him out? I remember being in State college in the room asking does it make sense to take him out after he was playing the way.

I buy that just because of who he is. I buy that. But the kid can really play. I mean, you see him on film. He jumped off film. I asked, you, guys, what's it going to make sense to take him out? I remember being in State college in the room asking does it make sense to take him out after he was playing the way.

That he was playing.

That he was playing.

So I'm you know, I just don't get that feeling about these two that that are coming out right now. That's that's And listen, I've talked to a couple of different people that I still have ties with, and they were talking to me about my son, and I brought this up because I just wanted to know, you know, for for general purposes, you know, whereas I douel, you know, and all of this, you know, how does that work? And this that and the other and this quarterback just hasn't seemed to be a deterrent, That's what I'll say. It just hasn't seemed to be a deterrent in terms of how these these franchises, the few that at least people that I spoke to that.

So I'm you know, I just don't get that feeling about these two that that are coming out right now. That's that's And listen, I've talked to a couple of different people that I still have ties with, and they were talking to me about my son, and I brought this up because I just wanted to know, you know, for for general purposes, you know, whereas I douel, you know, and all of this, you know, how does that work? And this that and the other and this quarterback just hasn't seemed to be a deterrent, That's what I'll say. It just hasn't seemed to be a deterrent in terms of how these these franchises, the few that at least people that I spoke to that.

That have been.

That have been.

You know, in contact with me as of late, it's it just doesn't sound like it's a deterrent.

You know, in contact with me as of late, it's it just doesn't sound like it's a deterrent.

You know.

You know.

What happened though, to your contacts about the New York Giants situation, What happened on those.

What happened though, to your contacts about the New York Giants situation, What happened on those.

Contexts, what happened the context of it, what happened about and I were trying to tell you how this sole thing was going to play out.

Contexts, what happened the context of it, what happened about and I were trying to tell you how this sole thing was going to play out.

Okay, I mean we didn't talk about Russell Wilson, That's that's for certain.

Okay, I mean we didn't talk about Russell Wilson, That's that's for certain.

We did talk about.

We did talk about.

Know, you asked me about my contacts and what we were discussing. Russell Wilson wasn't one of those, you know, and and again I didn't. I wasn't reaching out for information. It's just kind of you know, conversation. One of one of my teammates.

Know, you asked me about my contacts and what we were discussing. Russell Wilson wasn't one of those, you know, and and again I didn't. I wasn't reaching out for information. It's just kind of you know, conversation. One of one of my teammates.

Uh actually passed away, and yeah he passed away though well not that way, he said too slow after Okay, yeah he passed away.

Uh actually passed away, and yeah he passed away though well not that way, he said too slow after Okay, yeah he passed away.

But but yeah, but uh, in terms of just that talking, I mean, yeah, we didn't even Russell Wilson didn't even come up, you know, to be honest. So you know, I don't know, you gotta you gotta wonder why. Maybe I don't know. But the guy that I one of the guys I did to, is a pretty prominent dude, and you know, he's probably talked to a lot of people.

But but yeah, but uh, in terms of just that talking, I mean, yeah, we didn't even Russell Wilson didn't even come up, you know, to be honest. So you know, I don't know, you gotta you gotta wonder why. Maybe I don't know. But the guy that I one of the guys I did to, is a pretty prominent dude, and you know, he's probably talked to a lot of people.

Want whether what number is Abdull gonna wear in Cleveland or New York because he's going You need to tell me they're going to unretire Mohammed Massaqui's number and give it to Abdull Carter.

Want whether what number is Abdull gonna wear in Cleveland or New York because he's going You need to tell me they're going to unretire Mohammed Massaqui's number and give it to Abdull Carter.

If the number is required retire not happening. If the number is retired, then there's a strong possibility he's going to have to choose a different number. I mean, it's like, oh, he wore fifty six, he's going to the Giants. What number is he going to wear in New York? Like, he's not wearing fifty six? So yeah, so we have to be staks.

If the number is required retire not happening. If the number is retired, then there's a strong possibility he's going to have to choose a different number. I mean, it's like, oh, he wore fifty six, he's going to the Giants. What number is he going to wear in New York? Like, he's not wearing fifty six? So yeah, so we have to be staks.

What's that? What number were you gonna wear then? Or was who me? You in New York? I don't.

What's that? What number were you gonna wear then? Or was who me? You in New York? I don't.

I wore fifty five. I went to New York one last. Yeah, okay, mister Nichols was.

I wore fifty five. I went to New York one last. Yeah, okay, mister Nichols was.

My it was.

My it was.

That's right, you know. But here's what's crazy. You don't that I only will were fifty six or I only wore fifty six. Becuse five plus six equals eleven?

That's right, you know. But here's what's crazy. You don't that I only will were fifty six or I only wore fifty six. Becuse five plus six equals eleven?

Was eleven?

Was eleven?

Yeah, that's the only reason why I wore fifty six. I didn't wear fifty six because I was trying to be like.

Yeah, that's the only reason why I wore fifty six. I didn't wear fifty six because I was trying to be like.

Lawrence Daten, Why don't you wear like forty seven then.

Lawrence Daten, Why don't you wear like forty seven then.

Ugly ninety eight ninety two? Us couldn't.

Ugly ninety eight ninety two? Us couldn't.

It wasn't allowed to wear thirty eight all that back then, you couldn't. Thirty eight was the first number I ever wore playing ball. But yeah, I would have worn thirty eight. But you can't wear thirty eight, couldn't wear you know any other number that that equaled? You could have worn sixty nine, right, uh uh huh, not unless I tried to be a defensive end and was like alignment. And I still think that that's a that would have been a long shot. Like I don't even know how you but you wanted it. I mean sixty nine. No, yeah, I mean I'm not opposed to a sixty nine. I just wouldn't have worn the number.

It wasn't allowed to wear thirty eight all that back then, you couldn't. Thirty eight was the first number I ever wore playing ball. But yeah, I would have worn thirty eight. But you can't wear thirty eight, couldn't wear you know any other number that that equaled? You could have worn sixty nine, right, uh uh huh, not unless I tried to be a defensive end and was like alignment. And I still think that that's a that would have been a long shot. Like I don't even know how you but you wanted it. I mean sixty nine. No, yeah, I mean I'm not opposed to a sixty nine. I just wouldn't have worn the number.

I'm really gonna do that.

I'm really gonna do that.

I fall with that one. Jonas, what do you mean I fall with that one? Get us to bro what do you mean by that?

I fall with that one. Jonas, what do you mean I fall with that one? Get us to bro what do you mean by that?

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Well? It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio. We do have the usuals coming up later on. We're gonna have another edition of In case you missed it later on this hour. We've also got the old p Petris Popadega stopping by. We've got Lee's leftovers, our Midweek Awards. All of it is yours here as we take you all the way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. But apparently it's still up in the air. One team's decision is still up.

In the air.

In the air.

We'll explain why. You'll hear from him next here on FSR.

We'll explain why. You'll hear from him next here on FSR.

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Now what radio station is that?

Now what radio station is that?

You just got to wait for it?

You just got to wait for it?

Okay, the best part, I mean, I see you jamm into it. Uh uh uh uh.

Okay, the best part, I mean, I see you jamm into it. Uh uh uh uh.

Oh, just that that little that little detail change for you change the song.

Oh, just that that little that little detail change for you change the song.

Yeah, remind me to kill myself the next time you want to play.

Yeah, remind me to kill myself the next time you want to play.

This creep by Radiohead.

This creep by Radiohead.

I'm just I'm just doing your bit.

I'm just I'm just doing your bit.

By the way. Oh no, I tell you guys this story real quick.

By the way. Oh no, I tell you guys this story real quick.

Cool.

Cool.

I was proud. I was proud and also a tad bit embarrassed. So the other night, my wife and I were like, all right, let's watch a movie. And we're with my son and so she's like, what about the Goonies? Like, okay, so you know, we threw on the Goonies. We're like thirty minutes in, maybe that far, and my son says out loud and I swear to god, oh no, this movie stinks. And I thought, and she looks over me, she goes, you did this like literally, wouldn't let it go. I just then it dawned on me. Yes, not not great parents, that quite a bit. Yes, I don't know, I guess.

I was proud. I was proud and also a tad bit embarrassed. So the other night, my wife and I were like, all right, let's watch a movie. And we're with my son and so she's like, what about the Goonies? Like, okay, so you know, we threw on the Goonies. We're like thirty minutes in, maybe that far, and my son says out loud and I swear to god, oh no, this movie stinks. And I thought, and she looks over me, she goes, you did this like literally, wouldn't let it go. I just then it dawned on me. Yes, not not great parents, that quite a bit. Yes, I don't know, I guess.

So he definitely doesn't have a filter either, by the way. He just says what he's feeling.

So he definitely doesn't have a filter either, by the way. He just says what he's feeling.

Yep.

Yep.

Kids are Go cubs, very odd cubs.

Kids are Go cubs, very odd cubs.

He loves go Cubs. Yeah.

He loves go Cubs. Yeah.

And depeche Mode because he said, what's up to him? Wow, you know, I got my phone propped up so I can look at it.

And depeche Mode because he said, what's up to him? Wow, you know, I got my phone propped up so I can look at it.

It just it just fell off. So my apologies. Oh it's all good.

It just it just fell off. So my apologies. Oh it's all good.

So JJ McCarthy was talking with Kay Adams they were smearing it around, uh, discussing his situation in Minnesota, and it went a little bit something like this, we as a fan base or even media found out like, you're the guy, the the guy recently?

So JJ McCarthy was talking with Kay Adams they were smearing it around, uh, discussing his situation in Minnesota, and it went a little bit something like this, we as a fan base or even media found out like, you're the guy, the the guy recently?

When did you know?

When did you know?

When did they tell you or when was that message to you?

When did they tell you or when was that message to you?

They haven't told men.

They haven't told men.

I'm happy they didn't because I try to earn it every single day and I never want that to be given to me and it's such a privileged and opportunity to give that give me that chance, and I'm just going to make the most of it every single day.

I'm happy they didn't because I try to earn it every single day and I never want that to be given to me and it's such a privileged and opportunity to give that give me that chance, and I'm just going to make the most of it every single day.

Okay. Based on what the roster looks like at quarterback, I feel like they've already kind of, you know, maybe handed it over to because Brett Rippon is the only I see on the roster at this.

Okay. Based on what the roster looks like at quarterback, I feel like they've already kind of, you know, maybe handed it over to because Brett Rippon is the only I see on the roster at this.

Well for now, for now, for now, well no, I'm just saying, Look, that's what they said. Aaron Rodgers is being patient with his decision as far as what he wants to do. The Steelers have made their you know, best offer to them. But I think, much like Kirk Cousins and why what happened last year to him in Atlanta, Rogers wants to be patient and it makes sense, like, what's the rush. What's the rush to sign him at this point unless he just you know, feels comfortable with the situation it wants to move forward. But there's no insurance, there's no guarantee that he is going to be the guy in any place. If you know, there's not some sort of guarantee from the team, And the only way of really doing that is being past the draft. Now, you know, Minnesota is not.

Well for now, for now, for now, well no, I'm just saying, Look, that's what they said. Aaron Rodgers is being patient with his decision as far as what he wants to do. The Steelers have made their you know, best offer to them. But I think, much like Kirk Cousins and why what happened last year to him in Atlanta, Rogers wants to be patient and it makes sense, like, what's the rush. What's the rush to sign him at this point unless he just you know, feels comfortable with the situation it wants to move forward. But there's no insurance, there's no guarantee that he is going to be the guy in any place. If you know, there's not some sort of guarantee from the team, And the only way of really doing that is being past the draft. Now, you know, Minnesota is not.

Going to take a quarterback because they took one last year.

Going to take a quarterback because they took one last year.

But if they get to a certain point in the offseason and they say, maybe, you know, JJ's not ready yet, that would change things from Minnesota because like, the only other veteran quarterback that's really on the you'd probably say is Kirk Cousins. They can't not gonna go.

But if they get to a certain point in the offseason and they say, maybe, you know, JJ's not ready yet, that would change things from Minnesota because like, the only other veteran quarterback that's really on the you'd probably say is Kirk Cousins. They can't not gonna go.

Back to that.

Back to that.

They're not gonna trade for Kirk Cousins. It would be kind of interesting to see if that came back around, But that didn't happen. Hey, Pittsburgh's that one place that you're probably looking at a quarterback falling to them in the draft if Rogers doesn't end up signing there, But how do you know they're not gonna take one for the future anyway. I mean, that's the reality of Rogers situation is whoever he's playing for, they have to have a plan after him. You don't know if they're gonna get a year out of him, maybe two.

They're not gonna trade for Kirk Cousins. It would be kind of interesting to see if that came back around, But that didn't happen. Hey, Pittsburgh's that one place that you're probably looking at a quarterback falling to them in the draft if Rogers doesn't end up signing there, But how do you know they're not gonna take one for the future anyway. I mean, that's the reality of Rogers situation is whoever he's playing for, they have to have a plan after him. You don't know if they're gonna get a year out of him, maybe two.

So I don't know.

So I don't know.

Would I would say, yes, it's Jason McCarthy. Now, we don't know what it's gonna look like by the summer, depending on how things go.

Would I would say, yes, it's Jason McCarthy. Now, we don't know what it's gonna look like by the summer, depending on how things go.

They gotta have a plan for Aaron Rodgers now, not just for the future. They gotta have You got to have a plan for him now if it doesn't work out with him being in there, unless you're okay with the possibilities of if it doesn't go well, you're just going to ride it out. But I think the more the more I'm listening to it, the more I'm I'm curious, you know, like you're saying, Minnesota saying for now, and Pittsburgh putting their offer on the table but it not being signed. And then the idea of thinking about Aaron Rodgers is monitoring and measuring and weighing what team he will will go play for after what took place in New York. I wonder, is they're the chance that Aaron Rodgers is looking at it like I'm not in a rush, because I'm really not in a rush.

They gotta have a plan for Aaron Rodgers now, not just for the future. They gotta have You got to have a plan for him now if it doesn't work out with him being in there, unless you're okay with the possibilities of if it doesn't go well, you're just going to ride it out. But I think the more the more I'm listening to it, the more I'm I'm curious, you know, like you're saying, Minnesota saying for now, and Pittsburgh putting their offer on the table but it not being signed. And then the idea of thinking about Aaron Rodgers is monitoring and measuring and weighing what team he will will go play for after what took place in New York. I wonder, is they're the chance that Aaron Rodgers is looking at it like I'm not in a rush, because I'm really not in a rush.

Right, the season could start.

Right, the season could start.

I might start off the season sitting back and watching and waiting because that for now, that might be a couple different franchises. Once you get into the into the teeth of the season, right, you get started, Okay, JJ McCarthy doesn't pan out, you get started. This quarterback on this really good team gets hurt, whatever it may be. If Aaron Rodgers is on a one year type of deal to prove what he can do for himself and for that team, then why why not wait for or play play again? You know a little bit of roulette here? See what plays out? Does it work out? Does it work out where he gets an opportunity based off of some type of unforeseen you know, happening that takes place.

I might start off the season sitting back and watching and waiting because that for now, that might be a couple different franchises. Once you get into the into the teeth of the season, right, you get started, Okay, JJ McCarthy doesn't pan out, you get started. This quarterback on this really good team gets hurt, whatever it may be. If Aaron Rodgers is on a one year type of deal to prove what he can do for himself and for that team, then why why not wait for or play play again? You know a little bit of roulette here? See what plays out? Does it work out? Does it work out where he gets an opportunity based off of some type of unforeseen you know, happening that takes place.

I mean, he's not in the he's not in.

I mean, he's not in the he's not in.

The most strategically sound of situations, just for all the you know, the elements that come into play with him.

The most strategically sound of situations, just for all the you know, the elements that come into play with him.

He's older. You know, there's a lot I mean, I won't say a lot.

He's older. You know, there's a lot I mean, I won't say a lot.

Of other things, but there are things connected to him off field in terms of what are you getting are you going to be able to control them, whatever it may be. I don't know what people are looking at how they're looking at it, but it just seems as though it could be more advantageous for him to wait for the season to start and take a job after that versus trying to take one.

Of other things, but there are things connected to him off field in terms of what are you getting are you going to be able to control them, whatever it may be. I don't know what people are looking at how they're looking at it, but it just seems as though it could be more advantageous for him to wait for the season to start and take a job after that versus trying to take one.

Now I think it was Tom Pellisero reported that the expectation is Rogers will make a decision.

Now I think it was Tom Pellisero reported that the expectation is Rogers will make a decision.

In the next few days. That it's not going to be next few days. Yeah, not going to be something he's going to Pittsburgh then, Yeah.

In the next few days. That it's not going to be next few days. Yeah, not going to be something he's going to Pittsburgh then, Yeah.

Didn't Pelisaro say that earlier this season?

Didn't Pelisaro say that earlier this season?

Yeah, but at one point you're gonna get it right, you know, Like that's my philosophy on gambling.

Yeah, but at one point you're gonna get it right, you know, Like that's my philosophy on gambling.

I mean, if you say in the next few days, every few days, I mean, you know, can you be wrong.

I mean, if you say in the next few days, every few days, I mean, you know, can you be wrong.

I mean it's debatable.

I mean it's debatable.

I mean, he'll make a decision here in the next few days, you know, by a week or so. I think we shouldn't have some sort of greater clarity or the next month. But you know, I think Roger's decision is going to wrap up sometime here in the next six months.

I mean, he'll make a decision here in the next few days, you know, by a week or so. I think we shouldn't have some sort of greater clarity or the next month. But you know, I think Roger's decision is going to wrap up sometime here in the next six months.

That's what I think, all right, Yeah, I think one thing we can be sure of that we will see Rogers again in the NFL this upcoming season.

That's what I think, all right, Yeah, I think one thing we can be sure of that we will see Rogers again in the NFL this upcoming season.

That's one thing with you. Do you think so? You're sure of it? Oh?

That's one thing with you. Do you think so? You're sure of it? Oh?

My shot there. I'm usually pretty accurate about this stuff. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming up next here. Though, in another edition of In Case you missed it, we did have another move made in the NFL. But is it all that everybody was trying to make it out to be via social media and on some other channels. We'll get into that for you next here Fox Sports Radio.

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After that, we turned it over to our executive producer.

After that, we turned it over to our executive producer.

Lead Lapp.

Lead Lapp.

Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning, Brady, Good morning LeVar.

Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning, Brady, Good morning LeVar.

Guys.

Guys.

In case you missed this, Hey Brady, uh, guys, In case you missed this. Stefan Diggs has now found his third team in three years. He has signed a three year big deal with the Patriots worth sixty nine million dollars, including twenty six million guaranteed.

In case you missed this, Hey Brady, uh, guys, In case you missed this. Stefan Diggs has now found his third team in three years. He has signed a three year big deal with the Patriots worth sixty nine million dollars, including twenty six million guaranteed.

Levar's number fifty six. It's not my number six? Whoa oh, I'm my number.

Levar's number fifty six. It's not my number six? Whoa oh, I'm my number.

Pete Prisco had had a fun time on a social media yesterday with this one just pointed out Diggs is not a number one. He turns thirty two coming off in acl other than that question mark, like it doesn't make you want is it wrong?