2 Pros and a Cup of JoeThis week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Thunder knock off the Minnesota Timberwolves to advance to the NBA Finals, Petros Papadakis joins the show to talk about how soft Lincoln Riley is to try to cancel or move the Notre Dame/USC rivalry & the guys end the week recapping the Knicks staying alive in the Eastern Conference Finals, what's going on in the Memorial Tournament, & a Stanley Cup Final preview!
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We will start things off here on this Thursday morning with whatever the hell you called that? From a basketball game standpoint last night in Alama City, thunder.
Well, that's a rap, that's a rap.
Yep.
It felt like, I mean, just watching the first quarter, you were like, oh, okay, this is just two teams that are very far apart with where they're at the series right now. I mean, okay, see, looks like they're gonna win a championship. And Minnesota was I don't know, I mean like running out of gas on the way of the finish line?
Is that the best way to put it? Yeah?
And it seemed like they don't, I don't want to say conceded before the game, But a few minutes into the game, we're like, yeah, whatever, maybe next year, Yeah, maybe next time.
I felt the same way when we had Big Cat last year. What why am I looking around feeling the same exact way this year.
I turned the sound off. First quarter, I turned the sound off, I turned it was on. I was watching, but I gotta say I wasn't watching from a true like stay focused in and dowbed in type of perspective, it just it was kind of boring. I ain't gonna lie. I got graduation today, so I had a lot going on. But that's really all I had the offer for this, other than to say I watched, and then it started off as Okay, watch see what's going to happen.
Are Timberwolves going to fight? No, they're not.
Defens is just too overwhelming for them that the shots selections are are poor. They can't get any space they So once I saw the same thing playing out in this game that has played out literally outside of the one win that they got in the series, I just kind of dowed out.
Man.
So sorry to all the listeners out there, I'm just being honest with you.
I kept checking.
I was watching casually, not studying it, just watching it, and as I saw the score kind of be what it was going to be, then you just checked to see are they catching up?
Okay, I'll dial back in. They're not catching up, So just left it at.
I swear to God, and like I'm being one hundred percent honest. I checked the score and was like, oh, they're making a game out of this and it was seventy eight.
To fifty four.
That is how bad the first half win. I checked in, I was like, oh, they're only down twenty four. Hey, they got a shot, they could close that gap. Oh my god, man, they're making a run here. It was just a complete chill acting. They got annihilated. And so look, at least, you know, if you're gonna, you know, end your season, you know, get it over with quickly and just go ahead and move on to whatever next year is going to look like. But SGA, shake Gilders, Alexander, is your Western Conference Finals, mbcourse, it was your regular season MVP. He spoke about why he wanted to get it done in front of the home crowd there last night.
Two things I wanted. I didn't want to go back to Minnesota. Travel was and then I wanted the fans to be able to enjoy enjoy the moment with us. I wanted them to be able to see it unfold in front of their eyes. I want them to be able to celebrate tonight in our building, go home, get drunk, whatever they do. I want them to have fun with the moment. And yeah, it was, it was, It was good. I just wanted to make sure that, like above all, I could give my energy and my effort to try to get these fans what they deserve.
So hoping fans go out there and get banged up in Oklahoma City. Probably a rough day for Seattle super Sonics fan. And though you know they gave them away, huh, you know, I don't.
I don't think they're.
Probably that still lingers a Western Conference Finals championship.
Still, yeah, I don't think they like how that ended. They loved their basketball team and they felt like they were wronged by the owner.
I don't doubt that. I just think it's it's been a period of time now. I think I think some people have moved on.
I don't know, man, I got sources in and around the Seattle area. You know people, I don't think they've moved.
That was ironically watching, uh the intro I don't know why the intro videos of the nineteen ninety six Chicago Bulls Seattle super Sonics last night.
Just to listen to the intros of the Bulls, like that music is so icon.
That dang Bull run down, run through the city six Chicago bull Man.
First up out of Southeast.
Yeah, six foot seven, Scottie Pippin.
Come on, keep going, keep going, keep trying to get to the rest of the lineup.
Out of Scotty oh School somewhere where I don't know.
Three pointers, christ Central Eastern Louisiana standing at six foot eight.
Dennis Rotten Woo, that's pretty good.
Come on, cue, come on, cue.
Out of New Mexico, standing at seven foot two.
Luke longleyoo, come on, come on, come on, come on.
From Miama, Ohio, standing at six foot four.
Ron Harper, Hey man, this.
Is where it gets.
This is where it gets intense, because you cant filled, the crowd starting to build you and now the University of North Carolina standing.
At six foot six.
Michael Jordan.
There's nothing that gives you chills when you hear that, because hey, I remember watching that.
Well done.
Rooting for the Seattle SuperSonics so passionately.
They did have a team. They had a team of Sean kem Yeah, how about it.
But but but it was only because the bulls always took out the calves at one point.
So that was the only reason I started rooting for the SuperSonics.
But I don't I forget I think my wife was I don't know she needed like floor music for like gymnastics or something, and that was.
What she used.
I was like, if y'all use this as the warm up music, that would be a statement, I said. The only problem is those young ladies probably.
Have no idea what that music means.
Yeah, you'd be walking out of versus other countries.
Like, yeah, you guys don't know, but this is like this is like it's already a plus over before it even started.
Plus they were really ahead of their time too, because they would zone in, like zoom in on the big screen at the arena. Oh yeah, it would show the bowling with the smoke coming out of his nose.
It wasn't a logo. It was the bull. It was a bull.
Ran through the city, ran through the city all the way to where the arena was.
Yeah, it was.
That was pretty sweet.
Like he's looking around like I'm f you up, like running around looking I'm gonna have you up too, Like he's running.
Around, he's running around. I mean, look at it now. I mean he's better than some of those bull videos you've.
Said us far on Instagram. You know, there're nuts.
For some reason, I had this weird effect infatuation with bull nuts. Gotta have big nuts these days, man.
Yeah, now, uh you bag that bull bag.
Now.
On the Timberwlf side of things, Anthony Edwards uh did talk about the performance yesterday and just what his off season looks like.
Nobody's gonna work harder than me this summer, I'll tell you that much. So yeah, I'll try. I'll try to make it happen again for Mike. They came ready to play.
We didn't.
When you lose a game like this, it's not really too much to break down. They just did what they were supposed to do in one a game. They dominated the game from a tip came donumber tip my head of those guys. They came ready, man, so put job by them.
There's also this, Uh, I'm calling my shot right now because I know how this works, and I'm telling you this is how this is going to go. Anthony Edwards is going to get buried by some people in the media because he was asked about whether or not he was hurt with the result and coming up short again in the Western Conference finals and had this to say.
It's exciting.
I don't know.
I don't know why people would think it will hurt. I mean it's exciting for me. I'm twenty three. I get to do it a whole bunch of times. I'm hurt more so for myself, for Mike.
I came up short.
For Mike.
Like I said, we tried last year, we couldn't get it.
We tried this year. I'm gonna try again next year. But harden is a terrible word to use.
I'm good.
So Michael Conley, Yeah, Mike Conley, yea.
Make sure we're clear. Not big Mike Big, not the Mike Yeah, not Mike Mike Yeah.
Like, I mean, you know, it is true.
I mean he's you know, he's young, and uh, you know, he probably is at the point to where he just assumes this is gonna happen every year. Maybe there's a veteran there with the polem aside and say, well, you know, probably not, but they weren't gonna they weren't gonna beat Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City has been the best team.
Wired to wire the entire year.
And I just think he probably realizes that, recognizes that, and just says, oh, whatever, I'll I'll figure it out and work harder to be back next year. I think he's just brutally honest and as opposed to putting on this song and dance and say yeah, you know, I'm devastated and you know, got to be better, got to be this and that, and just sort of sulking about the whole thing, said, hey, is what it is. You know, well, happy with the you know, with the progress we made, bombed. I didn't do it for Mike Conley and we'll be back next year. That response didn't sound emotional for a reason. I think that's what we touched on.
Like it was probably already over before the game started yesterday. I mean it felt that way. So I mean he probably reconciled with you know, this series is.
Not going to go our way, and I now know like the gap.
Between where this team's at and where we're at and maybe where I need to get to personally, and so the emotion was probably done like I imagine, you know, after you know, game four or at some point in the series, the reality it's set in. And that's one of the differences between I think, you know, having a best of seven series versus a single Elimation sudden death game. You could say whatever you want about, you know, the differences between two teams when it's just a one game, sudden death game. But you always felt like even as the worst, even trust me, I played on many teams when we were the underdog, you still felt like you had a chance and if you gave them, they gave them your best and you may maybe didn't catch them on their best day, there was an opportunity to be had. In the Best the Seventh series, it's like eventually the better team usually wins, unless there's an injury or something to one of the star players, they usually win. And that's where it was very clear evident that OKAC was a better team. And maybe it was just stating a bad matchup too, you know, as we talked about earlier this week, like maybe who knows what the Lakers will look like first? Okay, see, I personally don't think they would have done any better. But I look at that and say, I think that's where that came from. Where it's different for players who are coming off that one game scenario. I think there's more emotion, that's more hurt that come along with it. But this it was like, well, we've already kind of moved on to our brain, like I'm already preparing to try to get back to this point and be better next year.
So it was such a beating that he had already gone through the entire grieving process, and that was probably Brady.
You were having conversation with hockey people yesterday. I could tell I detected a sense of Canadian accent in your voice. Just now you're not gay Canadian? Yeah, maybe you were ashgad yesterday.
The funniest thing about hockey folks, this is one thing like I never and I think I told you this before talking to my brother in law, is like when when he was in like a certain series, they'd be down like.
Two oh, and he just go, ah, long serious.
I'm like, I mean the hell, it's not like like this is a head two more games to figure this out. But he would he always had a sense of patience. Then they'd be down like three oh, and I'm like, are we panicking yet? Like I'm panicking? Are you panicking? And he'd be like, oh no, long series, long serious.
I'm like, what do you be?
Long serious?
Game?
I almost wanted to call him after like the second period when they're down and be like, all right, you have one period left. Is anyone panicking? Is there any sense of urgency at all in that locker room. Oh no, no, long period. I'm like, okay, all right.
They're long, they're wired differently, man, Yeah, definitely.
Well they're completely different and congratulate.
Okay, see, man, I think it's a I don't know, it's a foregone conclusion. It's going to be the Pacers and okay see and then in the finals. So it'd be interesting to see if they can get it wrapped up tonight and we go ahead and get into the final final series of the NBA season.
Yeah, let's get it done.
Like, let's just go I mean, the finals aren't starting for the uh, you know until I believe Labor Day anyway, So let's just you know, let's get this over with and we can focus on some other stuff that matters.
I will say though, this is a very very very closely mirror image matched team teams and the fact that they play fast with great pace, They're they're deep on their on their benches, they play crazy, crazy good defense. They have one score that is like a real score. Then they have you know, the next guy you know that can make big plays for them and create create offense for them. I mean, they're very evenly matched, and I'm saying as if it's already done with the Knicks and the Pacers. I believe it is. So I think it's it's going to be. It might not be the most sensational in terms of names and markets going into the Championship round, but I think it begs the question. And I know we're up on break, but I think it does bag the question of if this is indeed the future of what you have going on in the NBA, how do you maximize the exposure or how do you maximize the excitement if these are going to be your markets moving forward? It's very possible Indiana could continue to run the table with the talent that they have for the next few years. Saying goes for Okac. It seems as though that they will be able to run the table for the next few years. So how does the NBA how do they leverage that?
I mean, Ben also a tip of the cap to Okay. See, they were in the lottery a couple of years ago. They won twenty four games I think three years ago. They've just systematically built the best team in basketball we played.
But they've done that historically.
They've They've built Sam Press, they have built some really really dope teams. I mean you think to yourself, at one point in time, they had uh, they had kd Russell Westbrook and Harden, James Harden and then the dude down low what was the big dude SBA like they yeah, yeah, I mean they He has built teams to do what this team is doing in years past. Just seems as though like this is their time. But I just I still wonder, like, how do you how do you build a juggernaut or how do you game more gentleman in terms of interest, If Indiana and Oklahoma are your two markets, that's representing your best teams in the finals, you know, and being the best in the league. So I don't know, we'll see you at what they do.
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App, like we do every single Wednesday. At this time, it's about tradition, a man who would like to be celebrating another tradition for years to come, but we will celebrate him here on this show, he is the old pe On social media, he is Petros Papadakis, the coast of the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch and five to seven e LA Sports, Fox College football analyst and our good buddy here Pee.
What's happening?
Good morning, good morning? Hello, Hello, Hey everybody? Hey, what's up?
So, Pat, I wanted to do well.
I wanted to start off because I know we're going to get into the you know, the rivalry, which.
I haven't even talked about it, and you know since the last week.
Okay, well been so long.
I did want to ask you about your thoughts on the growth and development of Luka Doncic, who apparently has lost a ton of weight. Uh, some people have taken notice to him in the off season.
And does this make you more.
Optimistic about what the Lakers next year could look like if Luca can figure out how to be in better shape for the upcoming season.
Oh?
God, such growth.
The Laker news yesterday was Lebron making his Taco Tuesday sound when his son graduated high school.
What was that sound like that?
Yea yea yeah, yah yah yah yeah yeah yeah, yea yea yea, yea yeah, yea, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yea yah yeah yeah yah yeah yea yeah yeah yah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
And it's a little higher.
It's a little high.
Well yeah, but it's five in the morning and I'm you know, I just got up and I ruined my voice with smoking years ago. I used to have a higher. I used to be able to sing the just my Imagination part Real High from the Temptations, but I can't even because of my voice. But yes, it was the Sierra Canyon, Sierra Canyon in Chatsworth graduation. Sierra Canyon where Lebron sends all his kids and they have a great basketball and football program, among other things. They're K through twelve, so so kindergarten through senior in high school one thousand, one hundred and like fifty kids, so not a lot. And Lebron was there and they announced his on the four star recruit going to Arizona, who averaged half a point a game in high school. And that's so he does other things, guys, he should. He screens, he rebounds, but they waited, like they announced the kid, and everybody's like, you know, you heard a few horns and like applause, and then he waited for a lull so everybody would know it was Taco Tuesday. And he did that, and then everybody, all the Sierra Canyon parents were like And then only then did they announce the next kid, which was Joan. Yeah, they did. Then they were the next kid's name was Jonas Epstein.
All right, oh wow, hey, not the greatest last name. But you know what, dang appreciate the love.
Man.
Yeah, you have a whole campaign about not not exercising that type of hate.
Bro Okay, well be careful man, we literally will go darker right now.
The name of the name Epstein, now associated with the name Epstein is.
Not okay, that's like, yeah, that's fair.
Hey, I do want to ask, Oh boy, I do want to ask.
Though, Lebron, it sounds like he's going to pick up or sign his option with the Lakers for twenty six.
You had to be excited about that when you saw that news, right.
Yeah, just another couple of years getting nailed by the king. You know, you ever see that movie Sleeping with the Enemy with Julia Roberts.
Yeah, it's been a long time.
Oh it's pretty good. Sleeping with the Enemy where her husband's like the worst guy ever, and she's fake her own death to get away from him. But he finds her because instead of throwing the wedding ring away, she threw it down the sink, and he went into the sink and found the ring. He knew she was still alive and she didn't drown. He finds her and before she uh, before she kills him, she has him at gunpoint. She calls the cops and says, I just shot an intruder. He's like what, and then blah blah blah blah. That's what it feels like, getting nailed by the king for another couple of years. But at least we'll have something to talk about. What about the Japanese guys? Yeah, guys there on the Dodgers pretty good.
How do you feel about the Dodgers right now? Man, They're they're looking pretty good.
Huh.
I guess they have something well. They they have some injury issues as far as their their pitching goes. They have guys that don't go very long in the games. They're starting pitching, but that's uh, but that's kind of rectified itself. They've had a couple of long stamping stamina performances. You know that good Royal honey type performance from from Dust.
Oh yeah, Dust and Man.
I think went five innings last night, which is the equivalent of pitching like eighteen innings now and uh and the guy before that, Yamamoto had a great out at the other day. Yamamoto might win the cy young He's he's really pitching great. He's got a devastating splitter that people don't know what to do with. And there's a new Yamamoto song. I'm not asking you to find it right now, though you probably could. There's a new Yamamoto song that has gone viral. It's like Yoshi noboo, Yama Moto ma ma, and it just goes on all right. It's a it's a it's it's from Reddit, and that is now going viral because you know, I mean, it's kind of hard. You know, you can be the greatest, uh, you could be John Taylor, one of the greatest wide receivers around, but when Jerry Rice is on the other side of the field for the forty nine ers, it's kind of hard to get some attention. And it's a little bit like that for Yamamoto with Otani. I mean OTAWNI I think just said his twentieth home run last night. He's on Pace there it is.
Man yo she no.
Denim.
Yeah, man yo sin no denim.
You see?
Is that like his walk up music?
I wish it was.
That's kind of hard if it is his walk up.
His walk up is more like a techno vibe.
But man, that's almost like Godzilla like like dang, that's kind of dope if you have very.
Look, Japanese culture is very excited. You know, they've got a lot going on and uh, and they have a they have a great Korean guy too that they called up Hey Soong Kim, who's an exciting Korean player who runs really well and inject some excitement and it's really likable guy. He's not Japanese but he's Korean.
M hm, so u Petros. Now that we, uh, let's get into it here. Where does the.
Like I don't know what if? What's there really to say?
Well, I wanted to ask you this because you know, this time, I don't.
Want to go back and forth with Colin Cowherd.
I feel stupid listen and that that's not I'm more looking at it from big picture because you are one to voice your frustration when it comes to USC and where the program is at as opposed to the program you grew up with, the program that you were part of, that you played with, that your family was a part of.
They were terrible when I played there.
Yeah, but there was still an element of pride and tradition attached to the program. So when you see the stuff that's gone on with then unwilling to potentially want to continue the rivalry with Notre Dame for various reasons. Where does this rank among most frustrated you've been with your alma mater in comparison to some of the other instances and other issues that have popped up over the previous years.
Well, I mean, I'm a radio TV guy, but let's just say I know where a lot of bodies are buried. So there's some other things that we never talk about. But at the same time, I mean, you know, lack of institutional control and stuff like that. But no, I mean, there's there's arrogant Lane Kiffin. There's drunken, out of control Steve Sarkisian. There's clueless and corrupt Pat Hayden and Lynn Swan. There's the Varsity Blues.
I remember Pat Hayden, he was calling the Notre name games back in the day.
He used to be a Notre Dame announcer, former USC football hero, and then he exposed himself and had to go underground after being the US athletic director who really basically helped Foster in the Varsity Blues scandal. I mean there's a lot of meat on the bone, is what I'm trying to say. I mean Mike bone Let alone a guy that had to remove and of course there's off sports stuff at USC with the terrible cover up with the doctor that was molesting people for years and years, and just a lot of bad stuff that's happened at USC because USC is a very very very wealthy, very connected private university, and it seemed like in the twenty first century they really lost their way. This on the other hand, I mean as an institution we're talking about, and it's a gigantic institution. USSE is not like Sierra Canyon that has one thousand, one hundred kids. It's a massive university. It's like thirty five thousand people graduate and undergrad maybe more so. It's it's a big place and there's a lot going on. So I don't want to catastrophize this controversy or whatever, but nothing I think has been more definitive about who's in charge of SC, what's wrong with SC. A sign of the times at SC that SE is no longer relevant, has a football program year in and year out, that USC has lost there, that USC is impotent. It's a program now now that the now that the ocean has turned to yoga, and I've lost my spoon one of my favorite sayings, they have totally they have totally lost their identity if they're considering this or how they're considering it, and the way they're considering it and who they're allowing to make their decisions. So overall, I think for me, it's a really frustrating thing. I can't say it's the most frustrated I've ever been, because there's really been terrible things that have happened that have been illegal, you know, stuff, stuff that's not defensible. This, on the other hand, is a head coach who quite literally would be fired. He would have been fired if his buyout, or would be fired and still probably will be fired if his buyout was not so gigantic. And the fact that they are letting that guy try to manipulate or say something or dictate one hundred plus year old rivalry that, as I've said on the show many times, transcends World Wars, transcends the transfer portal, transform, transcends the NIL, transcends conference realignment, any of that stuff. We still have USC Notre Dame and the fact that Lincoln Riley, who probably should not even be there. He shouldn't he shouldn't be the coach there right now based on his performance, what the place is. It's just the buyout is so big that guy gets to pull the plug on this rivalry. That guy gets to say that USC players don't get to take the field at Notre Dame or play Notre Dame at home in November. It's not right. It's so far from being right that I can't believe anybody would argue for it. And all these people talking about modern football and things change and this is what we need and all that, and my I mean, USC is not competing. It's not like USC is going to play in the playoffs if they just didn't have that testy Notre Dame game on their schedule. I mean, they can't beat Minnesota, they can't beat Maryland, and I got to be honest with you, if Notre Dame's on your schedule, win or lose, it's going to help you a lot more when you're in the Big Ten with the new expanded playoff rules than it does scheduling Georgia State or Missouri State. Who's on the schedule here in twenty twenty five, All of that, all of that, it's just so sad and disappointing that these very wealthy country club set type people who have never looked through a face mask at USC, never done anything there, never had any real connection with the place, want to take the opportunity to play at the cradle of college football in one of the most in the most program in the history of the sport, in their stadium every other year. You're going to take that away from a whole generation or even consider taking that away from a whole generation of USC football players because your coach is scared to compete. It's the saddest and most it's it's really the most egregious thing I've ever heard anybody ever consider. When it comes I'd rather have a drunk coach, honestly. I mean, it's it's it's it's truly It's truly an insult to anybody who ever played the sport at USC that this would be considered. And and the fact that USC says anything about it. I know, Brady, I'm sorry, I'll be done in a second.
You're good, You're good.
The fact that USC says anything about it other than yes, we'd love to play the rivalry for the next thousand years. The fact that anybody other than Jen Cohen, the USC Athletic director, has made any kind of statement about this, the head coach who should be fired, or some weird assistant athletic director open his freaking mouth about it. The only person I want to hear from is the USC Athletic director or the president of the school. And that person needs to say we are going to play this for the rest of our lives and for everybody else's lives forward. And that is that. We don't want to hear anything else about. Why is it even being discussed because Lincoln Riley, who's not good enough to be the head coach there anymore? Anyway, if you really think they're they're they're they're good and have a chance to compete. Because Lincoln Riley is too soft to to commit to a rivalry that everybody else that's ever coached there has committed to. It's an absolute travesty and it makes me sick to my stomach to even discuss it. Thank you.
It is interesting when you bring up the history and when you initially saw some of your statements, petros I was thinking about just looking back on how this rivalry has sustained through World Wars, when you take into account what it took for the teams to get across the country they want to train, like like, I hear this argument by a lot of USC people, in particular on social media.
Who try to defend the fact that well, Notre Dame's not well.
They've never been at a conference, so this existed well, and again that's like you.
Have that's like, why should they be I mean, honestly, it's like saying, well, you have this seven hundred room mansion, why don't you move into this crappy apartment building? And Marina del Rey with the rest of us, I mean, why why they don't they have their own deal with it? Right?
Well, and then, and by the way, it's always been that way, So it's kind of odd.
That now you try to use that as justification because of the sage.
Thing they use is justification asm. It makes me it's laughable.
I unders think about the train ride, the train ride back in the day, right, like they're going for days across the country back and forth to play one another, and nowadays they're like, well we fly six thousand more miles a year. It's like, all right, let's just look back at the history here and look at how this rivalry was played out. Teams try and again, I'm not trying to say that, you know, we've come a long way since then, but it's sustained through that, right. It lasted through snowstorms, through whatever else they had to endure to get to one another to play.
So it has a bit odd.
I do want you to play Devil's Advocate though, because one of the things is I think it's on us to say, okay, we's se did make a decision that was for their best interest right to get paid handsomely through the TV Metia rite.
Steal, and still have the feeling about it that they had to do that. I mean, and it's because the PAC ten for sure, twelve or so for sure.
So let's just look at it from Devil's advocate, because there hasn't been an agreement. And and look, I'll say this, I spoke to Gen Cohen last week. So what I do know is that what's being floated or out about this twenty year agreement whatever else, there's not a lot of truth of that. There's been, you know, an idea to extend for another year, and there's the thought that Southern Cow would like to play at week.
Zero week one at the beginning of the season. So that's a travesty.
But but and look, I'm not going to disagree with you. But everyone feels like I'm biased because I'm an Underdame guy. But what I'm saying is Notre Dame hasn't signed an extension or signed the agreement either. And then, you know, so you could you could make that case, I guess, make your case if you can for Southern Cow. And why this robbery should need to change based on the landscape of college football where a lot of things have changed.
I don't understand. I just don't understand why. Why. The only reason it wants anybody wants it to change or has said anything about it, is because Lincoln Riley is too soft to play it. And there's a reason they play in November. There's a reason they play in October. What was last year, twenty twenty four and they played at SC right, Yeah, they played at Notre Dame.
Yeah.
So in the even years they play at Notre Dame in October because Howard Jones's wife used to want to watch the leaves change, the USC head coach and Newt Rockney's wife had family in Los Angeles, so every other year they would spend Thanksgiving week that week late November at USC or in Los Angeles with the palm trees and Hollywood and all that. It is not snowing in October in South Bend. It is not a snow game. They don't have to walk uphill in the snow both ways. Yes, sometimes it rains and it gets a little muddy, but it's not muney anymore. Because Brian Kelly changed a feeling that was a travesty as well. I don't look, I don't understand, other than the fact that Lincoln Riley doesn't want to play this, why anybody would ever even consider even moving it, As if playing the first game of the year is different than playing later in the year. USC. Notre Dame does nothing but help everybody and us. He's not competing for the playoff anyway, and if they were playing, Notre Dame would help them. This is a coach that understands very little about the university that he's at. It's a coach that understands very little about how to make that university successful year in and year out. He's very stubborn. He doesn't want to embrace their traditions. And I'll say it again, if he wasn't so overpaid, he'd be fired at this point without a doubt. So why should anybody, I mean, why should anybody allow that guy to say anything about anything or any of his ilk, or anybody that listens to what he says at some stupid nil meeting, goes on the internet and regurgitates it to fight with a guy like Brady Quinn. There is no argument to end this rivalry. There is no argument, in my opinion, to change the date of the rivalry. The only thing anybody should do is say yes, we love this rivalry and it will continue forever. And despite the changes in college football, the more things change, the more some remain the same. This is who we are, This is our identity as a university. We're such a big deal in college football that we play an intersectional rivalry every single year against the team that is the cradle of the sport, Notre Dame. Too. If you're if somehow you're too important or advanced or elite or West Coast to continue that rivalry, then let's just scrap the football program and play flag and try to get into the Olympics.
Petro's I know we're up against it, But who would embrace that idea? And like those beliefs of what you just said? Just just humor me. If there were a coach that in your mind that would shit that mold?
Who would that be?
Anybody else? Anybody you know, Matt Campbell, Barry Odom, any other coach in the world of college football. Yeah, and maybe you get have five drinks in them and say, God, it's tough to play Notre Dame every year. Okay, great, whatever, You're still the coach at USC. Like you get paid ninety million dollars on your stupid ass contract that you should have never gotten because you play against Notre Dame. You know that's the thing about USC. And I don't care that they're in the Big ten now and it's some they act like it's some giant gauntlet of death. You shouldn't have done it. Then, you know, if that, if that prevents you from playing Notre Dame, then you're too soft to be in the big ten. I'm so sorry.
That's true.
That's you know.
I mean, I think you'd agree Pete Carroll during that era, which I look at as that was the greatest, you know, group of teams in USC's history.
But he would have never turned this down. He would have never.
Contemplated no, no, and then and you know, I don't I could talk about I'll put it this way.
I would put that SC team up against any in history of college football.
Okay, uh, you know I don't. There's the way. I mean O. J. Simpson and people like that, and John McKay in the seventies a different game, I understand to tell what I'm saying, but I mean, yeah, there are great football teams. I covered them as closely as anybody in the world. I used to travel with them. But uh, you look, I mean just as scheduling we can argue about who was good and who was bad and all that, but scheduling wise, I mean, they played Arkansas, they played Virginia, they played Kansas at Kansas State, they played at Auburn. I mean when I played at USC, we played at Florida State, We played everybody we possibly could. I don't understand the I mean, they were never afraid of a challenge. It was it was a way to boost the programs visibility in the BCS era or any era. But I mean, I take your point, Brady. I mean, those were absolutely dominant football teams in a dominant era of USC, and they played anybody they possibly could. You could say, well, yeah, but they were in the Pac ten at the time. Well okay, they would go anywhere and play anybody. They went to Nebraska, Nebraska came here. They I mean they played everybody you could possibly think of.
That.
I mean when they played Auburn in three Auburn was the number one team in the country and they played at Jordan Hare. So, yes, when USC is great generationally throughout the years, and Pete Carroll of course the most recent in everybody's memory, they have never ever, ever, ever shied away from anybody on a schedule. And this is just it's just not This doesn't feel like USC football at all. And if they if they try to do this seriously, just shake start and then just start wearing alternate uniforms, start wearing white shoes. Let's schedule half the games. It's so fine, you know, seriously, let's just scrap the whole thing.
I was gonna say. Is a stub up center still open?
They can?
Yeah, let's go play at the Dignity Health Sports. Yeah. Yeah, let's were our jockstraps on the outside of our.
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We'll do it again next week.
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Here?
Where'sh Where's LeVar? Where's everybody else?
The passion speech and the inquisition he made over it was Lee and Lorena.
Yesterday, very very interesting.
I mean, breed, do we still have the So this is from yesterday, a very heap down version of what happened between LaVar and Lee and Brady LaVar, Lee and Loraina excuse me. LaVar was very upset that Lee and Lorana were taking today off because they were going to Canada, going to Vancouver to be a part of the Ben Mallor meet and greet.
So LaVar was very bothered by that, and it went.
Like this, I have graduation today, right, I've had a very very busy week. The twins are graduating high school today, right, And I really was going to take off tomorrow, like I was going to take the show off tomorrow, going to I.
Was going to.
But now I think to myself, like, I'm not gonna let you outwork me. I'm not gonna let Jonas Knox outwork me. So I'm going to come in and work tomorrow. And I see Loraina in the hallway, and I asked, Lorena, you know how you doing? What's going on this weekend? She's out of town this weekend? All right, that's great, perfect, I have a great time. How are you leaving us tomorrow? You can't, you can't do the show, And then go, that's what I'm saying. So you're leaving today, you're randomly off tomorrow. You're standing on that.
I am off tomorrow. No, No, that's not what I asked you.
I asked you, Are you randomly off tomorrow the same day as Lorena?
I don't know what that means, but yes, I am off tomorrow. And so's LeVar so very interesting.
I just I don't understand the passionate stance he took in such a matter when I didn't care. I don't think you cared. I don't know that anyone cared whether or not Lee, Lorena and LeVar took today off. Yet he's he's really passionate about it.
Listen, it is it is. You know, people take days off. I mean, I get news for you it.
So we're we're at summertime, you're going to like people are going to take time off.
Like there's that's the way this goes.
It goes every year because people realize once football season comes around, NFL's king, college Football's king, you can't miss those days. So like like, but he was, he was very fired up about it. Was just an interesting turn of events that that he was not here. So I hope that he's in Vancouver with them. That would be the most appropriate.
So that would be awesome if you got a ticket he ended up there.
So if you were at the Ben mallor meet and greet up in Vancouver and you see LeVar with Lorraine and Lee, please send us over a clip. We want to make sure there's no you know, pink substance involved or anything like that in the clip. We don't want to step on digs anybody here on the show, But if you see them, please send us over some video evidence of that, so that could be something. By the way, you got a Brady Quinn, you got a little bit of a home game going on there.
We got the Memorial going in tournament.
Man, he got off to a pretty fast start yesterday, Ben Griffin leading the pack. I think it was seven under, which is pretty ridiculous all things considered. It got a little more difficult with the wind later in the day as guys like Scottie Scheffler came through, who's a defending champ.
But a lot of rain.
Today, completely different day today. I'll be curious to see if they start on time, how that goes. But it's always a good time, always fun to watch. Usually people go and they'll appreciate the golfers to watch the game of golf. They're just going to get hammered, like they are going to get absolutely drunk at this event. So it's a great time.
It's obviously good for the good for the town too.
Are you going to take the family? Are you gonna? I've been this is a wagon and you know, and yeah, the meat wagon will be there somewhere, probably posted up at a bar.
It's tough with the kids. It's actually great. The kids getting free I think from like fifteen years old or under, so you can bring them. But much like I figured out when we went to see Rob Stone at one of the boweling events, I mean, you gotta be quiet. I mean it's not like they're trying to make this a rock conser. So I told by three daughters, who are probably the only ones I take. I mean our two year old. He'd be a disaster there. But I was like, you guys got to be quiet. Though I was like, we'll get kicked out. They're like, what do you mean.
I'm like, there will be a man that comes up and says, you.
Guys need to leave if you cannot keep it down and figure out a way of playing the quiet game. Being quiet for like two hours. I was like, and you're gonna have to walk around, which they hate having to like exert themselves anyway, So there's most there's probably a good chance that we end up not taking them, but maybe I'll make my way out there at some point.
By the way, I was looking and I think there might be an issue with my with my leader board here because I was looking going up and I don't see where's Rory McElroy.
I don't see him.
On Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's in Canada. I think he might be in Vancouver for Lee and Lorena, Yeah and LeVar. They might be in Vancouver together.
All right.
So I don't know if the courses are like up there, but maybe that's the foursome that's going Lee, Lorena.
LeVar and Rory Buck because he's not at.
What is going on in But at least he gave I'm sure he gave Jack the heads up, right, I'm sure.
He gave the everybody the heads up.
I mean, look, I'm not sure that it was as big of a deal as it was made to be. But you know, it is Jack Nicholas's tournament. They're actually honoring it's the fiftieth year of the tournament and they're honoring his wife, Barbara Nicholas.
So a bunch of Nicholas.
Family actually came up for the event this year in her honor. So it's a pretty big year. And you would have thought Rory, who's one of the faces. If not, you know, maybe you'd say next to Scotti Scheffler, the face of golf, you know, would call the greatest of all time to let him know he's not coming to his tournament.
But I don't know.
Again, I think people have more of an issue on the outside. I don't think Jack had an issue with it from his statement, But you know, it's a signature event that it's a twenty million dollars person. I think the winner is going to take home like four million plus. So it's odd that you wouldn't take the opportunity to play an event like that, especially where I mean, look, I was there last year volunteering. That dude hits the ball onlike anything else.
You know.
I think when you see people when they talk about.
Like Josh Allen or Mahomes, whether they throw the football or you know, Paul Skins and the way he pitches, there's just certain guys who are outliers. They're just so much more supremely talented than everyone else. And that's what Rory is in golf. For people who've ever seen him hit a golf ball, it's like you see pros and other guys come through and they hit and you're like, oh, that's really good, that that's incredible. Then you see him hitting, you're like, holy, like I've never seen someone do that. The way he hits the ball. And if you watched him hit on the range. You'd say he should win every single tournament he ever enters. But the issue, I believe, at least the thought is that he doesn't have to talk about the non conforming driver that he ended up playing with and having to pull and change what two events ago, whatever it was now And there's a thought that maybe he was playing with a non conventional driver and.
Won the Master and look the truth of them.
And we kind of talked about this on a grander scale in the with the PGA Tour, they only test about fifty drivers and that's not the entire field.
So Scotty Sheffier say, hey, look they took mine too. Maybe they need to.
Know check everyone's driver, check everyone's clubs, And it would make sense. I mean, like in most sports, I think you're trying to check and make sure everything one's playing within the same you know, rules and guidelines of everyone else. And I think that's a fair way of doing it. But for whatever reason, the PGA Tour hasn't implemented this.
So there's a thought that he's trying to avoid having to answer the questions from the previous.
Yes, because I think there's a thought when you're one of six who've ever you know, accomplished the Grand Slam that you don't want there to be an asterisk next next to your name saying, well, he could have won it with the non conforming driver because it's the same oney one, you know where he played with the next tournament, right like, that would be the thought. And not to dig deeper into it, but a lot of pros shave the face of the driver because it helps create a little more pop to it and all that. There are some advantages to the way they go about constructing their clubs, So if you them all the time, it would definitely cut down on some of the things I think players do to their clubs to make the ball fly as far and fly.
As straight as it does.
I don't know, it seems, you know, I think his Master's win is safe. I don't know that anybody would really judge him, but who knows.
I mean, I mean, that's the thing is ultimately, you know, is waiting another week or two. I mean, you're gonna play eventually another major. Someone's gonna ask about it. It's not like that's just gonna be forgotten. It's not like you're going on hiatus. For like a couple of years. Eventually someone's gonna ask you about it.
By the way, you mentioned Paul Schemes for anybody who's not actually taken the time to watch.
First of all, he pitches for the Pirates. They're awful.
They're highlights this year or Paul Schemes and a guy falling out of the out of the stands in the outfield. I mean, they're just a terrible team. But if anybody's never gotten to see him pitch or seeing highlights of him, he throws high nineties like it's nothing like everything the guy like it just it looks totally effortless, and you watch hitters and they're just perplexed, like why is why is he throwing ninety six?
And why does it move like that?
Like and he can locate it and he can So that's to your point. When you see certain athletes, you just sit back and marvel at how are you able to do it? Because it looks so much more difficult for everybody else. Paul Skeens is one of those guys that you know, maybe nationally is it gets some attention, But as for as much as everybody talks about listen show, Hey, Tani's you know, must watch, Aaron Judge must watch. I mean, if you can stomach sitting through a Pirates game once every five days. When Paul Skeins is pitching, he's phenomenal, Like he's really really fun to watch. So it is a two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio. Now, we did mention the NBA Eastern Conference Finals. You had the the New York Knicks get it done last night. By the way, the fact that if you were to just because I know we were, you know, poking fun of at the box score, but if you were to just read off the numbers of the starters for the Pacers, that game should have been way worse than it was.
Like if you just.
Went through the starting five of Indiana and Tyrese Haliburton's numbers and all those guys, that that should have been a thirty point game. But ultimately the Knicks still get it done. They forced a game six, and we did mention the awkward exchange between Pascal Siakam and Greg Doyle who was asking about, you know, just the performance and the the effort level and playing hard last night. And here was the exchange following the game last night?
How much basin was them? I guess what did they do especially on the on their side.
Then you guys trying to get older than nah, they did played harder than us. I think I think they played harder on us. You know, newsballs, like rebounds like all that. We got to be able to win that battle. What do you mean, Pascal?
Can you can you make sense of it from those of us old playing this game at this level?
You know what was this day?
And you're saying they played hard when you guys you can find them hard felt?
How is that, Homo?
In games you're talking about they played harder than us. It's okay, we played hard, but they played harders. What's your point. I don't get it interesting.
That happens in a game. To it, that's basketball. You're good, You're good, bro. You're looking for.
Something I know, but damn no, no, But I'm telling you though I told you, what else do you want me to tell you?
So that was Pascal coming Greg Doyle, which again, I mean, I think it's tough for athletes because after games it's it's a little simpler, and especially during a series or during the course of a season, you just want to move on, like there's there's some days where you didn't have your best. There's some days where yeah, the other team had more desire or fight, more effort that they put into the game. And it felt a little bit like that.
Last night.
It felt like wasn't the PACER's night.
But I mean, it's also funny to me only because you talked about some like the bench players who stepped up with that game should have been a blowout and it wasn't, but there.
Was like a still shot. I saw TJ McConnell talking.
Trash to some of the some of the New York Knicks fans who were on the on the on the court, like Ben Stiller and Timothy Schallomet who was sitting right there. There's someone else whose name escapes me, but you kind of looked back over it looked like Ben Stiller was talking trash back to him.
So I was like, all right, this is good.
I like this.
I like the chippiness that's been going on between a lot of the Knicks fans who've been traveling and sitting courtside and McAfee obviously giving it to him too, back when they're in Indianapolis, Like this has been a fun series for a lot of the fandom that's been a part of it too, And then.
You know obviously the yeah, the Reggie Miller, the choke gesture, the all that stuff that's come along with it.
Yeah, it's it's been fun, a.
Lot more interesting and entertaining than what the Western Conference gave us, which was the the wipe out there. But look, I don't I mean, I don't think either guy did anything wrong there. In that postgame, Siakam was like, yeah, they just played harder than us, and Doyle's like, well, how's that possible, because he's trying to get an understanding and and Doyle's had some some weird, awkward moments before. But it's just I think at this point, when you're doing the back and forth and you're covering each each game is like its own chapter and it has nothing to do with the next one. Like there's no like, there's gonna be no momentum that's probably carried from that game into the next, and once the game's over, the Pacers are like, all right, we're going to close that at home, like it is what It's just like, there's there's only so much you could possibly say after each one of these games before, you're just doing the same thing over again. We're just waiting for the NBA Finals to start. So to me, that's a wrap on that series.
And uh, what about Edmondsonhow I mean, that's gonna be a hell of a Stanley Cup.
Let me tell you something, all right, somebody was trying to bust my balls because I said it was going to be an all Canada final.
Sure, definitely not, but it is. It is half Canada.
And the last time we saw this happen, and I believe it's only three times you've seen back to back the same matchup in the Stanley Cup Final since nineteen eighty. The last time was two thousand and eight. Two thousand and nine. It was the Red Wings and the Penguins. And I know that because the two thousand and nine matchup I went to the Igloo in Pittsburgh and saw Game three and four of the Stanley Cup Final between the Red Wings and the Penguins. And I'm calling my shot right now. It's going to play out like that Detroit won the first year. Everyone was like, man is Sydney Crosby ever going to get his Cup? And I'm telling you right, now Edmonton's going to win this year and Connor McDavid's going to finally hoist the cup.
It's happening. So you and keep Prisco can stick it in your go cat and smoke it.
Yeah, you could sit your ass down. Okay, Florida's going back to the Stanley Cup for the third straight year.
All right.
They have a roster that they've somehow improved upon based on last year's tea. They're deep and and mind you, this is not going to be like, oh, that's three years in a row and then they just fall off a cliff. You look at their cap situation, the roster structure. They could they could make a run at this thing for the.
Next two three years like we could.
We could be.
Legitimately looking at the Panthers dominating. Now, some of that depends on Barbrovsky and how long he wants to play, and if he does decide to hang it up, you know who you got coming in at goal. But this this has been so well put together by Vinnie Viola their own I mean again, I lived there in a period of time where I watched what partnership looked like, and when he took over, he puts so much money and effort resources guys like Matt Caldwell who helps run it to just what they've done, I think for the fan base, for the players, it's an entirely different team and atmosphere than it was when I was first down there going to Florida Panthers games when they take that T shirt gun and it would usually we would place bets. I swear to god, whatever the T shirt gun would come out, we'd play bets and it was usually two to one odds that it would hit a seat as opposed to hitting an actual fan. That's how limited the attendance was. Now you have to go through Sawgrass Mills right you drive west near the damn near the Everglades.
But they packed that place up.
I don't even know if it's amarant Bankering or whatever it's called now, but they packed that place. They've got a spot they're called the Panther Bar. It's flipping awesome and it is wild, like those games are so much fun to go to now. So all credit to the ownership too, and obviously the players everyone else, but like the fan base now, it's been fun. I mean, it really has been fun watching that team grow and have the success that.
They've had dead even on DraftKings to see the series.
So it should be a good one. It'd be a great one.
Yeah.
So Edmonton Florida Volume two, we're gonna get this year.
All those Toronto transplants that are down there at Flora may chiming in rooting for Canada.
Probably how far away sunrise from like South Beach, Miami and all those plays.
Oh that's a hike, that's probably, I mean you have to get out on the Turnpike and the head north. It's probably I don't know, fifty minutes, sixty minutes to an hour, depend on.
Traffic, and mayally more.
Damn.
Yeah, it's a little bit of southeache. It's more of a Fort Lauderdale crowd that would just be driving directly west.
Pretty much.
Interesting.
Well, listen, it is two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. No LaVar Arrington, we repeat, no LaVar Arrington on the show today. No Lee de Lap, no Loraina. But it is Brady and I. We've got Mary Mack, We've got Brie putting this whole thing together here on this three hour extravaganza coming up next here though, somebody's got an idea.
They've got an idea.
There's a lot of debate, a lot of conversation about who should get the opportunity, who should get the opportunity, Should it be the NFL.
Or the other guys.
Somebody's got an idea to solve it all. You'll hear from them right here on FSR.
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