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Published Mar 29, 2025, 10:00 AM

This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Giants sign Russell Wilson, but how does that affect the Draft? Old P, Petros Papadakis  shares his love for the Intuit Dome and more! Plus, hard hitting reporting from Mike Rotch on Abdul Carter skipping his Pro Day.

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Oh man, So pod for the review. The projection that the Giants were gonna take Schadora Sanders, you know, took a little bit of a hit, a little bit of a fender mender.

Uh.

How do this odds look By the way, as we talked about on Monday, when you made this grand proclamation out the Jameis Winston signing was that they're not gonna take another veteran.

What do those odds look like?

Now?

I'm not ready to discuss that right now, to be honest with you, We've got a whole show to get into that. You know, we can look at that to another point, but it does feel like away we go and the New York Giants are going to be looking elsewhere with that number three pick.

Yeah, I'll just wonder the closer we get to the draft, will I mean this to me is one of the first dominoes or whatever to say that there could be an understanding.

And again, I don't want to be that.

I don't want to be that guy because I like these guys, but I just got to do my job. It could be the first sign of saying that these quarterbacks aren't top five guys, they might not be top ten guys. I know it sounds crazy, and I know some of these teams need a quarterback, and I get that, but again, do you use a number one pick, a number two pick, a number three pick, do you use it on a guy that you might you just might not be all the way clear on if they are a changer at that position. I just I can't. I think that the more we see and the more we hear, and the closer we get, I just don't. I can't see how you justify it. And that's just you know, That's just how I'm looking at it. So them taking Russell Wilson, I don't know that that means they're not going to take a quarterback in the draft.

I just don't think they're going to take it with their first pick.

That's what I think the Giants select. Is it third? Is that right?

Yeah? Yeah?

I think the hard thing about it is, if you're looking at the Tennessee Titans, and we can get into that here in a little bit, they seem very interested in Camboard. They've gone through all of the check marks or steps you go through if you're going to take a quarterback at number one. So far, you know, we've heard about obviously the visits and things they've they've had with cam Ward at the combine. They've now followed it up by being present at his pro day. They've set up a private workout that is, those are all the steps that you take if you're saying we would like to draft this guy. We want to know more about this guy. So they seem like they're going in that direction. Now, maybe you know, it's just part of their due diligence and they're trying to learn about the player that they may not take when it's all said and done, or if they trade out of that spot, for example, but it seems like that's the direction they're going.

Then look at Cleveland Brown's.

Okay, what do the Cleveland Browns do Because they're sitting there at number two, and if they don't take cam Ward, they might be looking at Shore Sanders, they might be looking at a quarterback. So you kind of find yourself, like we usually talk about in regards to the draft, looking at it not necessarily the fact that, hey, you know, is Abdul Carter the best overall prospect? Travis hunmanbsto. Yeah, those are probably two better overall prospects, but they don't play quarterback. And if these you know, these places, these teams don't figure out that position, it really doesn't matter. So if the Giants are batting third in this case, not only are they looking at it saying, well, we can raid on Rogers, but it sounds like if he plays, he wants to go to Pittsburgh if that even happens, not us, and so they could wait around. But then maybe Russ might say, well, the Browns are actually, you know, calling too, and maybe they want to try to bring me in, you know, to get them through this season and to see where things go. So I think there's a bunch of factors that led to this and the Giants deciding that that kind of now was the moment to strike with Russ. I think for Russ, this is part of the best contract that he could get too out of the teams that were, you know, looking for services. You know, if it's incentivized to go up to twenty one million, great, you know, but he's at least got you know, about eleven million guaranteed in this deal, and he could feel like, well, it's more than jamis, so at least from a veterans standpoint, I know my role, I know what I'm being paid to do. I'm being paid to be the guy. And it doesn't it doesn't necessarily exclude the Giants from taking a quarterback if one's there, if one drops them at that spot. But I think now it opens them up to, you know, other positions. Maybe they're looking at Will Campbell a tackle, you know, maybe they're looking at Abdul Card even though I don't think there's a need for it. They've got Burns, They've got Kevon Thibodeau. They signed pauls on a debo at cornerback to a pretty big deal. He's getting paid about eighteen million a year this offseason. They've got Deontay Banks they took in the first round a couple of years ago, So I'm not really sure what they would see Travis Hunter. Maybe he's in a rotation there and he plays wide receiver as well to go along with the league neighbors. But you know, as I look at it, you know, it looks like they're setting themselves up to either take one of those blue chip prospects or even trade back dare I say, and be able to get to a spot where they get multiple picks to kind of help out this this roster, whether it's on offense or anywhere else.

Yeah, I think you do your due diligence for multiple multiple reasons. And I mean some that would jump right out at you is well, because you want the kid and you want to make sure it's it's one of the guys that if you're going to bring them in, you do want.

To check off all those boxes.

Two could be you want to drive the value up of the prospect and drive the value up of your pick at the same point in time. You know, if they believe we want cam Ward and the team wants cam Ward, then they're going to show you at some point that they want cam Ward. Just like you do or or you smoke out your competitors. Right, you put something out there and you show it and you see how people react to it. I don't know how people are reacting to it behind the scenes, but if the market says, well, you don't go take them like, good for you, guys, Glad you got the number one pick. Listen, it's a big pick for any position. It's a ginormous pick. It's a larger than life pick for a quarterback. You go number one as a QB and you can look at it from both sides of the spectrum, from the success side of it to the lack of success. I mean, there's not been what there's I'm trying to think. I don't have the list of number ones at quarterback, but I don't know the success rate.

But I do remember was JaMarcus? Was he number one overall? Yeah? You have the JaMarcus is wasn't then? What was Carrie? Was Kerry Collins?

The number one overall?

Wasn't that Tennessee too? That's Giants? Who was that? Anyway?

So I think that is a it's a hard that is a hard, hard place to be in a position to be in.

To be a quarterback.

Kerry Collins was the Panthers.

To the Pathers. But number one though, right, he went number one. I don't recall, No, no, no, Keijona Dick Kejona Carter went number one. He went number two anyway, No no, no, no, no no no. Keijohna went number one. Carrie went like a little bit after that. But anyway, the point is the point is that I'm making it is a tough position to place somebody who may not grade out for that that spot. I don't I like cam Ward's game. I like Shador Sanders game. I really do. And I'm not saying this for any other reason other than to say, I just don't think they grade out as number one slot quarterbacks. They're grades to me, don't give you. This is a bona fide number one guy. So with that being said, you're going to try to figure out find out the information you want to find out pre draft, and you want to contrast, and you want to compare because the guy that may grade out to be a number two, number one pick for the draft, there may be something there that the team doesn't like. I don't know, could be an injury that pops up you know, could be certain other factors that pop up. I just don't see this. I just don't see this as being a situation where where you have such high graded dudes. I mean to say to me, the conversation should be over the moment you say, Miles Garrett, this is the highest we've graded a guy since Males Garrett. Okay, what's what's what else is there to talk about? What else is there to talk about? I don't know what else there is there is to put into the ill bet. Cam Woord goes number one? Okay, all right, I mean it wouldn't be the first time I'm right. It wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong. So I just and certainly wouldn't be the first time you're right, or the first time you're.

We're actually on the subject because of Monday.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't.

I don't.

I mean I think it's a it's a it's a good bet. I just don't think it's a safe bet. I don't think it's a safe one.

That's all.

I mean, minus sixteen hundred feels safe.

But okay, take it, I take it.

Have we have we found the updated odds?

Yes, we found the updated odds. You have to tight screws on this, all right, so a guy can't get something wrong for once.

I'm curious, all right, cam Ward.

Sixteen to one to go number one overall or minus sixteen hundred, so you bet, you know, sixteen dollars to make a buck. If you want cam Ward to go number one, then it gets interesting. Abdual Carter at number two is a minus one thirty chador is a plus one eighty five. And then at the number three, pick Travis Hunter at a minus one fifty chador to plus one seventy. So if you're.

Kimboard's not even a part of like the giants considerations, is that what you're saying?

No, no, no, no chance, Because they got him off the board.

There's a better chance to cam Neely going if cam Ward doesn't go number one to if he doesn't go number one to Tennessee and Cleveland, he'll go number two.

So he will go number two. They will take him in Cleveland.

Yeah, it's actually the best option.

I mean the hard part for Cleveland is you know they're I think they're all trying to get cam Ward and the problem is Cleveland needs them. You can make the case Tennessee needs enough they're overwill Levis, And for Cleveland, it's a necessity because of the kind of the salary cap situation. You know, you need a cheaper contract to take on. And that's probably why Russell Wilson ultimately took the Giants offer. It's because of what they were able to guarantee and the fact that they were probably able to tell them, hey, we're not going to draft one like you can sign here, here's our guarantee, here's the incentives.

We're not going to draft the quarterback like. We need veterans.

We need to win.

Now that that's the pressure that we feel like we're under, and we don't feel like we're gonna be able to get the best guy in the draft anyway. So if we can't get that, let's go get a veteran or a couple of veterans who we feel more comfortable and confident about. And if we do take a young guy, maybe it's a guy we take in the second, third, fourth, fifth round that we feel like is a guy that can develop more. And I don't know if that's a Riley Leonard from Notre Dame. I'm not sure who they would see in that capacity. But I think that would be what the Giants are setting themselves up to do. And I think for the Browns, they're hoping that Abdua Carter goes number one.

That's what they're hoping.

But if you're the Tennessee Titans and you went through what you did last year, you're looking at the quarterback spot more than anything else. When you're at the number one spot and you have the chance to take the best guy in that draft.

It's hard to pass up on that guy.

I mean, even as good as Abdul Carter is as a prospect, or Travis Hunter is as a prospect, or whoever else you want to put in.

That category, it's just it's too hard to pass up when you have control of that spot.

If you were to look at the Giants off season, now that it listen, you know, apparently they're not going to be taking a quarterback. Doesn't mean it's a foregone conclusion, but it does feel like at least this opens up the opportunity to take somebody else it's not a quarterback if and I still for the record, I don't think should or Sanders gets past six to the Raiders. I don't see it happening, either he goes two to Cleveland or somebody trades up. I don't see the Raiders passing on him at six. But if you were to now look at the Giants offseason, I feel a whole lot better about Brian dave Ball being able to make something of this year and maybe stick around for another year. With the addition of Russell Wilson and Travis Hunter as opposed to just should or Sanders at three, like, at least it opens up the opportunity for that team to add a couple of pieces as opposed to just going all in at one.

You know what's funny, before I say what I was about to say, just based off of what you're saying too, just made me think, can you imagine that russ is so an irrelevant in this scenario? Damn that it turned to the draft.

It's like, we welcome he and Russ.

Oh, by the way, so let's talk about cam Ward to the Giants and or the Chador Sanders to the Giants and this and that and how this could all play out, and like, hey, russ Man, see what you can do with it, Breth, see what can happen with it. But let me ask you, guys this, cam Ward Schador Sanders, if they come out in last year's draft, where do they get drafted?

I'll keep saying it.

I don't know that you start talking about how they stack up amongst last year's class until JJ McCarthy.

I think that's the player that you look at it and say, Okay, is it cam Or is it Jj? Is it Shador Sanders.

That's how much better that class was in my opinion as prospects. And again, you you're talking about two Heischman Trophy winners Jane Danie and then Caleb Williams before that, and you're talking about years that Michael Pennix and Bo Nicks both had their teams, you know, in much better situations and really had put together two years. It's not just like what they did their final year that the two years Knicks was in Oregon the two years that the Penix was in Washington, I mean, both those guys like played phenomenal. And again, so that's where when I look at the tape and I kind of look at those draft classes in comparison, It's why again I'm looking at this draft class saying there's separation in a lot of people's minds, which there's not as much separation in my mind between Shador and Camboard.

There's not.

And I would actually make the case that I think I think Shador his game, the way he plays, fits the NFL style more. And there's a lot of people who've nitpicked at him. There's a lot of people who've talked about arm strength there. You can't make up for accuracy, though, you can't make up for toughness. Some of the things he's done, you can coach out them. Get to get the ball out of his hand, quicker. You know when people talk about, well, hey, he throws a lot of balls around the line of scrimmage, it's a lot of you know, bubble screens like well, so does cam Wards. So does every quarterback that's coming out in the draft right now, every quarterback. Go if you were to look at their throw chart and where they're throwing the football, the days of guys throwing that mid portion of the field somewhere between ten yards twenty yards downfield, it ain't happening.

You're not saying. At the college level, you either see within.

Ten yards of the line of scrimmager behind it, or you see something that throws outside, most likely downfield, and the completion percentage for those isn't that great, So that's kind of what you're getting. And so there's going to be development for any quarterback that goes to the NFL from today's college game. So going back to the initial point though, is if cam Ward is, in the minds of many others, because of his natural unroll ability, viewed as the number one guy and then just kind of a drop off from there in their minds.

It leads me back to Russell Wilson is going to be a solution.

For the New York Giants in this case, and the Kirk Cousins is still something that's really interesting to keep an eye on. But as has been discussed i'm sure by you guys yesterday and maybe we've touched on a little bit on this on Monday, but that's more of a trade scenario during the draft. It's something where he doesn't want to have what happened last year happened again. So any team that takes him, I think it's going to be a team that either missed up on the chance to take a quarterback or is going to be able to find a way of trading something for him to get his services this time around as one of those bridge quarterbacks, like that's where he's at, and I think teams would rather have Kirk Cousins probably than whatever comes after cam Warden.

In a lot of cases, as crazy as it is for people to hear, there's.

A level of play and consistency that he's had and last year, yes it wasn't great, so why he got benched for Pennix. But I also think he was playing injured. So there's still so much that can happen between.

Now and the draft.

I just I'm a believer in like kind of what you're saying in regards to how this class is viewed. And it's not surprising you've heard that. I can tell you this much. Next year's draft class, there'll be teams tanking for that guy if they can, because you know, wonder who that guy is probably going to be, Arch Manning after one year. So if you want me to just go ahead and call the shot now, I'll say it now. Arch Maanning will be the number one overall pick in the twenty twenty six draft. Oh okay, after one year starting at Texas.

I buy that just because of who he is I buy that, But the kid can really play. I mean, you see him on film. He jumped off film. I asked, you, guys, was it going to make sense to take him out? I remember being in state college in the room asking does it make sense to take him out? After he was playing the way that he was playing? So, you know, I just don't get that feeling about these two that are coming out right now. That's that's And listen, I've talked to a couple of different people that I still have ties with, and they were talking to me about my son, and I brought this up because I just wanted to know, you know, for for general purposes, you know, where is abduel?

You know, and all of this, you know, how does that work?

And this that and the other and this quarterback just hasn't seemed to be a deterrent, That's what I'll say. It just hasn't seemed to be a deterrent in terms of how these these franchises. The few that at least people that I spoke to that that had been you know, in contact with me as of late, it's it just doesn't sound like it's a deterrent.

You know.

What happened though to your contacts about the New York Giants situation, though, what happened on those contexts, what happened the context of it, what happened cont What about my.

Con I were trying to tell you how this sole thing was going to play out?

Okay, I mean we didn't talk about Russell Wilson, That's that's for certain. We did talk about You asked me about my contacts and what we were discussing. Russell Wilson wasn't one of those, you know, and and again I didn't. I wasn't reaching out for information. It's just kind of you know, conversation. One of one of my teammates. Uh actually passed away, and yeah he passed away, though not that way, he said too slow after Okay, yeah he passed away. But but yeah, but uh, in terms of just that talking, I mean, yeah, we didn't even Russell Wilson didn't even come up, you know, to be honest.

So you know, I don't know, you gotta you gotta wonder why. Maybe I don't know.

But the guy that I one of the guys I did talk to, is a pretty prominent dude, and you know, he's probably.

Talked to a lot of people want.

What number is Abdul gonna wear in Cleveland or New York? Because you need to tell me they're gonna unretire Mohammed Massaquia's number.

And give it to abduall Carter. If the number is required to retire, not happening.

If the number is retired, then there's a strong possibility he's going to have to choose a different number. I mean it's like, oh, he wore fifty six, he's going to the Giants. What number is he going to wear in New York? Like, he's not wearing fifty six? So yeah, so weable to be sticks.

What's that?

What number were you gonna wear?

Then?

Ar was?

Who me?

You in New York?

I don't. I wore fifty five.

I went to New York five one last Yeah, okay, mister Nichols was my It was the that's right now, Yes, you know.

But here's what's crazy.

Do you dog that I only wore fifty six or I only wore fifty six because five plus six equals eleven eleven. Yeah, that's the only reason why I wore fifty six. I didn't wear fifty six because I was trying to be like Lawrence twn.

Why don't you wear like forty seven then.

Ugly ninety ninety two? It wasn't allowed to wear thirty eight all that back then, you couldn't. Thirty eight was the first number I ever wore playing ball. But yeah, I would have worn thirty eight. But you can't wear thirty eight, couldn't wear you know any other number that that equalled? You could have worn sixty nine, right, uh uh uh huh not unless I tried to be a defensive end and was like a lineman. And I still think that that's a that would have been a long shot. Like I don't even know how you but.

You wanted it.

I mean sixty nine nine? Yeah, I mean, I'm not opposed to a sixty nine. I just wouldn't have warned the number.

I'm really gonna do that.

I fall with that one, Jonas, what do you mean? I thought?

With that one?

Gets?

What do you mean by that?

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It is a Wednesday tradition on X He's at the Old p He is Petros Papadakis, the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM five to seventy LA, Sports Fox, College football analyst and our good buddy Pee. What's happening?

Good morning? Hello? Hello everybody?

Hello, good morning Pee?

How you doing sir? Hello?

Hello? Peter?

What Hello?

Pepete?

Hello? Brady?

Hello Brady?

Hey?

Petros? Do you know anything about Mookie Betts's illness that caused him to drop twenty something pounds?

And no, But it's really upsetting, right, I mean, the guy's been six since before they left for Japan. He said he was afraid to eat food. He said his body was eating itself. Dang, Yeah, that's uh, that's that. He wasn't a big guy to begin with, you know what I mean. Like being down on the field all the time with the Dodgers is interesting because you get to realize why there's so many idiot baseball dads out there, because it's really one of the only sports, I mean, most sports, football, basketball, the sports that we talk about when you get to be twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen and you're like an elite player. You got to pass the eyeball test, like you got to walk in the door and look like Brady Quinn or LaVar Arrington. I mean, there's not a lot of football players that just look like normal guys, you know. And same with basketball. I mean a lot of basketball players only look normal on a basketball court. Any other place, they look like a freak, like a circus act. But baseball, you could look like a normal kind of guy and to have a slight build like Mookie Betts or Trey Turner or guys like that and be the best in the world.

So there wasn't a lot of weight for the guy to lose anyway, And being down.

There with those guys, you kind of realized, like, not all these guys are like that physically impressive. Now, they added Freddie Freeman a couple of years back, and I was like, damn, now this guy's really big. And then they brought in Otani, and Otani's a freaking giant. But Mookie Bets is not a big guy, and there wasn't a lot of weight to lose, and apparently it was just a really bad scene. Now he's back. I think he played yesterday in the exhibition, so he'll be back on Thursday. But he lost a bunch of weight and he got really sick. It had nothing to do with Japan or gas station, sushi in Japan or whatever people were alleging, because he got sick before before they went.

I think it was David Vasse asked him, you know, because Mookie had mentioned, you know, we know what it was and what to avoid, and so the follow up obviously was so what was it? And he said, we're just going to keep that in house. So just the whole thing's weird, Like I don't you can't really nobody can figure out what the hell is going on.

Do you think it's like a tapeworm? I don't know, or a hook a hookworm?

Does that take twenty five pounds off you?

Well, it's like we've heard twenty five pounds. We've heard twenty pounds.

It's eighteen pounds, okay, So and who knows, it could be coming back on him right now as we speak. His opening day is tomorrow and we'll all be out at Dodger Stadium. So yeah, I'm sorry that Mookie Bets got sick, but I expect that he's going to be.

Okay, fair, Speaking of opening day, what's the festivity's going to be? Like, I mean, it's going to be.

A big one.

Pee You're gonna be out.

What are we go going on?

Well, there's a guy, there's bartender Brad at Dodger Stadium, like one of these bougie bartenders in like the elite area you can go and drink.

And you know, like the club house or whatever they call it. Like there's always something.

Dodger Stadium or baseball in general, or any nice stadium has become a lot like like Vegas, where no matter what you have, no matter how much money you have spent to be a VIP, there's something better.

Like you might have this risk band, but there's another riskband.

That's even more special, where you are in like a jacuzzi being filated by a dolphin.

You know.

It's like.

Do you know what I'm saying?

It's like and baseball is kind of like that. So there's this one, Uh, there's this one bar at Dodger Stadium that's really nice, and this bartender comes and makes us meet a lottas from that bar and delivers them at Dodger Stadium to wherever we Matt and I are, but on open we're down on the field, so we can't drink down in front of everybody like with a big gross red michalata while you're interviewing you know, Stan Castan or Andrew Friedmann or Max Muncie or bowing at Otawi. So it is a little more complicated than when we usually are there. But we usually get one big mich alata and they bring tim kaits a spicy margarita and we usually got spicy marg so we go from there, and that's usually the case, but on opening day we'll be down on the field, so the festivities are a little less. I think you guys would be not shocked to realize, Like, I don't know how long Am five seventy, the blowtorch here in La has had the Dodger contract. It's been lucrative, of course for them, but I think it's been about twelve years. And I mean they used to send us out there, three James in a row during homestands, and we used to spend a lot of time. And now that the Dodgers are so popular, they don't need us as much as they used to.

Well, the Lakers need you.

I mean they seem to have been doing pretty well and well Bronnie James since we've talked, lass has proven all of the critics wrong and has put everybody in their place and has made everybody's you know, the believer of the Bronnie James legend that is starting to now take shape.

What's your take on that?

Now?

Are people more interested in going to Lakers games and watching the wows?

Now?

The Lakers or any NBA franchise has priced everybody out a long long time ago, So real Laker fans or whatever kind of I mean, that's just not the NBA anymore. As far as going to the games, it's it's way too expensive. As far as the broad James has proven everybody this or that, I'm not really there, but I'm glad that they had a wonderful article written about him in the Athletic and then he got out there in a blowout game, and then you know, the G League we get to follow what's going on there.

I'm sure those games are very popular.

But no, the Bronny James thing, it went away for a while because the Lakers were playing so well, and then they started to lose again and lebron got hurt or took his march off or whatever. Just the media orchestration around anything regarding Lebron James, what happens before, during, and after the way all their media people get mobilized. It's I just I don't even like to talk about it anymore. But speaking about basketball, I did go for the very first time in my life to the Into It Dome the Clippers.

Yeah, Friday night, I.

Think I heard. It's amazing.

I had to go for Toyota to do a like a They don't call it like a sales event anymore.

To do you know what they call if you go to like an event where.

They have like activation, Yes, that's right, you go.

Tell me this much, Petros. Why do they change the names for things that have always existed, Like back in the day, if you did a deal with a corporate sponsor, it's just it's just a marketing deal. Right now we call it it's nil. It's your name, image and likeness. Like what why do we need to coin a phrase for something that's always existed.

I mean, Don Martin changed a big our old boss, you know.

I mean when you used to have sales people or whatever they would call them, you know, clients, right, like Toyota is a client, but you know what they.

Are now partners, We're partner. Yeah. They always change the names for things to make things seem cooler, right.

Or more complex or more more I don't know, innovative than they really are. But it was speaking of innovative. And you guys know this. I mean I hate everything. I mean, I really don't. I don't like anything like I'm.

The word hater was literally created for me and I am.

When they opened Staples Center. I was there when it opened and we were all part of the media and the whole deal, and it to me, it just seemed like a big, stupid looking Marriott. I wasn't impressed when they opened Staples and everybody thought it was the media center of the world and it was these have events every single night. But the Into It Dome is everything they said. Now, parking for seventy dollars is too much. I don't care where you're supposed to be parking or what's happening. Seventy dollars is too much to pay to park. But it had to be the best, the best venue I've ever been at for anything.

Ever.

It's a spaceship It's like when you remember how geeked up you were to be on Space Mountain as a kid.

Oh yeah, this is how the Into It Dome feels. Every single chair is like a movie theater chair with a controller.

That's in like a holster, and you can order your food.

Yeah, all that stuff, but then just the weird in game stuff like that controller you realize serves as a light that changes red, white and blue and is part of like a light show in the whole stadium anytime anything happens these weird like it looks like a drone show and you realize like your seat is doing that too. And of course just the grade of the building. You know, it doesn't feel like Staples or the Rose Bowl where you're super far away from everything. And I know the Clippers aren't popular, and god they don't have a fifty fifth pick that has been forced into the league that we have to monitor in the G League and during garbage time. But at the same time, I have never seen anything like this stadium and just getting in, getting out all the food and all the different stuff.

It really is the future and I was I was wildly impressed with how they built it and what it is now.

I know it's the Clippers, and I know they ruined Englewood and there's terrible traffic and all this different stuff, But man, was I was really impressed with that stadium.

What's a little more bad traffic in LA you know, just heap it on top of the rest of it.

Petros, I want to get back to the hating portion of things, Yeah, okay, sure, only because one of the things that's come up of the course of March Madness is some of the coaches who are in the sweet sixteen yet the portal's open in men's basketball, and it's like they're having to discuss while they're still trying to make a national championship run, how they're going to manage their roster in that time. It is college sports at like an old time, just crazy point in time as to how this whole thing is working, and that includes a football and everything else. In your mind, well that the double portal is a real problem for everybody in football because you don't really know. It's caused a lot of people to not want to have spring games or close down their spring practice because they don't want some player that they didn't expect that came up and did well to get poached, and they already try to deal with that rumors wise, And the problem is some schools are on the quarter system, some schools are on semester systems. It's really hard to sync up Stanford and Michigan State. Know, it always has been in the world of college football. That being said, yeah, this is an issue to one of the other things that bothers me. I mean, these coaches are having to deal with the portal and all that stuff no matter what. And in college basketball, timing wise and football, if you have a lot of success and your season isn't over, you have to deal with all kinds of logistics that you probably shouldn't while you're still coaching and competing because.

Of just how long the calendar takes if you have success.

One of the things that I found interesting is that everybody, you know, Colorado State lost on a last second shot.

If they didn't, they'd be the only mid major in there, right, correct?

Is that right?

Yeah? Yeah?

Because no one wants to call Arkansas with Callip Perry as the coach, to be the to be a Cinderella.

I mean, you can't.

You can't say that even though they're a ten seed, So there's no more George Mason or VCU or anybody like that. And you have these sports writers lamenting that, oh god, Nil ruined college basketball. It's like these are the same sports writers that we're all screaming for Nil, and now they're oh, this sucks. It's like, well, guys, I mean, who do you think has the money to pay the players? The major conferences and the bigger schools in particular the SEC, and they have what seven teams or something in the sweet sixteen. So it's funny because we talk about all this progress that we need to make in college sports, and we lawed the Abandoned Brothers and the lawsuit that got everybody paid, and I think it's great too. I'm not saying one thing or another. And then the results of that happen the transfer portal and all these different things, and everybody stands up and scream and yells and wants to complain about it. I mean, we created this complex situation by putting revenue sports inside our institutions of higher education, and then we sit here and whine about all the incongruities in the billion dollar industry that we built. So it's kind of interesting. It's interesting to watch it all play out, But the same people that screen for players to be paid are the same people lamenting the fact that we don't have any mid majors or teams like that in the tournament. It's like, which way do you want it? You can only have the red sauce or the green sauce. You can't have them both at the same time.

You a holes, But.

It's kind of the nature of the sport.

And then the real travesty of the whole thing is the people making the billions of dollars on these TV deals are still not allowed to pay the players legally.

That's not who's paying them.

It's still the alums that want to be cool to hang out with athletes, and it's not really nil, let's pay to play. And so we have so many issues. I almost want to talk about Brody instead, But no, I don't.

I mean, I really thought I was transitioning from something you didn't want to talk about to something you wanted to talk about.

No, I mean, but I talked about it, right, Brady. I mean that's you know, I mean it is.

It is very interesting because we are in a brave new world of college sports and The one thing that really doesn't sync up for the major revenue sports, football and hoops is the portals, and it just it really doesn't work for anybody, and it's dramatically altered the calendar of the sport and it's a lot harder for these guys to do their job.

You know, Maryland, but go you want to go?

Oh?

I thought this was pretty appropriate. You know Maryland basketball. You know they had that game winning shot that you know got them to the next round. They play tomorrow against number number one Florida and that's a big game for them. But more importantly, uh, this is a big one for.

Me asking you this, Petros. Do you know Go Go music? And have you ever heard of the group Mambo Sauce?

I do not know Mambo Sauce, but I know about Go Go, I know about the Huckabucks, I know Chuck Brown, I know the back.

Essence, I know about Sugar Beer.

Yes, Go Go music, for those of you that don't know, is a special sect of urban music, or I guess you'd say black music.

Q and Jonas were out on it, but no clue, Well, no, we were out on Mambo Sauce.

Such did you know go Go I've heard of Go Go.

I know about Mambo Sauce, which is the song that was played Go Go is can we played the song for Petros?

She could play it for him, she could play she pull it up?

Well, what's it called?

Uh?

Maryland football comes out to a go Go song? Yeah, they come out to pure essence and that's uh, you know, Coach Locksley is from the go Go music is very it's cool and and this is also something that I really like is if some music is very Germane to the area, right, like, you know, if you're from Chino Hills, you're probably going to be against a rap. I must say what I.

Want to know.

And in Bakersfield you listen to Korn.

Well, Bakersfield has actually the Bakersfield country style, which which totally changed country music maybe like thirty years ago.

Jonas is a rare essence or pure essence.

Rare Well, I think there's another one too, but rare essence is Yeah, that's the one.

I'm sorry.

I'm more of a trouble funk guy myself, but.

Well, but but go Go music is very much identified with the d m V. Not the not the motor vehicles, but the capital Virginia that whole area and I like that. I mean, we we don't have enough of that. And in the country, Uh, the Bay Area it's like that too with hif Yeah, the Hyphie music in the Bay Area and mac dre and Andre Nicotina.

Yes, there there you go, Brady. And then I guess you would.

Say down south in Houston, Texas, they had they had shopped and screw.

Screw music, drunk wish your house, yes, Michael, five thousand watts.

Uh.

So I do like rap music that is very unique to the area. That's not really what go Go is, but it is urban music. I do not know the band that LeVar is talking about.

Plate it in Mambo Sauce.

You can't get it is welcome to d C.

Well, we don't have bad music in the system.

Oh wow, that's so crazy.

But the guy that started go Go music is a guy named Chuck Brown.

Chuck Brown.

Yeah, so that's the that's the uh, the guy that was the innovator and you could purchase that.

They call him. They call him the Godfather of Go Go.

Correct, the guyfather of Go Go and his son played for Virginia Tech at one point in time.

Update by the way on Pure Essence. Pure Essence was an R and B band from Cincinnati, Ohio, and yeah, they they had a couple of different labels, but they haven't really done anything since nineteen eighty two.

They do something every Saturday when Maryland takes a feel full.

Well, that's this is not rare.

Yeah, petros is Andre white Boy Johnson your favorite member of Rarest.

There you go, what does he play the triangle?

There you go? There you go, pet, that's Mambo Sauce right there.

This is rap rock.

I'm sorry, is that main Skin?

What is this?

That's mambo Sauce?

Oh?

Buck Owens is the guy that started the Bakersfield sound in uh in Bakersfield, the country music and they had a big theater there called the Crystal Palace.

I don't know if it's still open.

M You didn't like the song, no, well not really.

I'm sorry.

It sounded like that Italian band where one of the guitarists doesn't wear a shirt and it's a chick.

Main skin.

So all I could say, if you know, you know, you know, well, I mean it's.

Mambo Sauce.

Yeah, that's the name of the group, you know.

Yeah, maybe it would grow in Petrows. Keep listening to it. Yeah, well you know that that that Jellow Ball did.

Yeah yeah, Black Boo Joy, j C. Jermaine, Little pet Twink, What up Twin Little Chris?

It's like three eleven.

Yeah, it's bad. I joint go right there. No, that's really bad. Go to mambosize band dot com. You can book them. I gave my shows show some love to my cut, you know what I mean?

Uh Petros, I could get Essence on a double bill.

Dang Jonas, you were going to laugh no matter what he says. It's a bad song man, haters, hateful people get used to it because it's going to be playing every second hour forever.

I'm never changing it.

You'll get tired of it and change you never to change it.

The best all black rock band of all time is Living Color. Hell Yeah, with Vernon Reed.

That was a band and the lead singer used to wear that sweet spring wetsuit.

Looking what do you see?

Yeah, mar you don't know nothing about that.

Yeah, you need Living Color in your life.

You never heard of them?

Oh that's a band now, and the guitarist is one of the great guitarists of the twentieth century. And the dude used to wear a rip curl body gloves spring suit out there.

What the hell is that like a wetsuit? Oh but that was his gear. But that's how they used to do it, right. Earth Wind and Fire used to wear the weird ass outfits. You know this was a little later than that, but yeah, it was a little later.

Okay, Yeah, No, All Stars they used to you know, Brady's Brady's Hood. They used to wear them tight ass outfits.

Corey Glover is the is the lead singer a Living Color and he was also an actor.

He was in Platoon.

Oh nice? Is he really?

Uh huh? I didn't know that looked in my.

Good song.

I know that song. Yeah, I know that song. I didn't know that was a black band. That's a black band, all black, Yes.

And the best black indie rock band LeVar is TV on the radio, except they have one white guy.

I'll put you up on some game just now. I did not know this was a black Now I'm a fan.

Off top Bar.

It kind of got that kind of uh, you know, Lenny Kravitz type of feel to it.

Sounds to this is a real band. That's dope. Uh.

Petros Enjoy opening Day. We appreciate it. We'll do it again next week forever there is Yes, that's Petro Bob is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

Yeah, there was some concern because Abdull Carter, the star pass rusher for Penn State, is not working out at his pro day. And you know, we were pointing out that three different general managers reached out to backer blitz dot com.

They reached out to backer Blitz.

Well, I mean he spoke with them, you know, Michael ros did, and then you know, so that that kind of led to the discussion that we were having earlier in the show, Go thank You. There's a report out from a guy, Michael Roch from backer blitz dot com who says that three gms in the top ten have said, quote, it shows a lack of competitiveness and they've removed him from their draft board and it makes them wonder what was going on in State College that would lead him or what the conversations are with Drew Rosenhaus that would lead him to believe that this was a good movie.

I understand the report from Michael Roch. The tough thing is is and this is maybe why the Michael Rotch.

Report comes out and says this with the three general managers, because you would think that he would come out and say something, you know, but again, Michael Roch has been all over this. I mean, I'm not sure if you fall this stuff, but he's been deep into it.

I guess he reached out too, because a lot of people wonder what does this do for the other prospects like Edge Rusher's in the draft, and I guess, you know, he reached out Shamar Stewart's representatives and they just said, you know, it just goes to show you some people like football more than others.

Yeah.

Whatever, And I know we're up against him, but I'm just wondering, who are the three gms who spoke with Mike Rotchet at a backer blitz dot com that would have like, like, why would they?

I don't think that that calls his level of competitiveness into question. I think that that is a pool or that's a poor conclusion to come to. So what are your thoughts on Mike Rotch. I don't have a problem with what he's saying. He's doing his job. I mean, he's doing his job. I think if if that's the conclusion that, let me ask you guys this, like, so you don't.

Have an issue with Mike.

I don't have an issue with anybody. I can have an opinion without having an issue. Okay, let me I said this one. I mean, I don't comprehend. What the hell, y'all, LeVar, do you have an issue with Mike Rotch?

No?

Why would I have an issue with them? I don't have an issue?

What? What?

What? What's my issue?

You really don't have an issue with you know what?

I'm a beat your.

Radio and you were in on that, and you were in on that Brady.

All right, all right, all rights report, all right.

I see what you got.

Packer. When I heard it, I was like, what the f?

Okay?

All right? I actually forgot the name that I said. I think when I said the second time we talked about it, no, there's don't.

First off, as soon as you send Michael Rod, I was like, oh wow, he went there, all right?

And I took it.

I thought you, I thought, jerk you are the big I'm going home. I'm going I'm leaving and I'm going home. That might be the biggest jerk move on radio that I've ever been.

A part of.

It's just some of these reports are so ridiculous. That is ft up that you would do that, And then the only way I got it was when you pointed at your crutch.

That's ridiculous, bro, that's ridiculous.

Doesn't this shiny light the amount of garbage it's out during this time of year, Like, doesn't this shin a light?

You can literally make it up.

It literally was a great word. I will never literally take you too seriously ever again.

Why would you ever?

Why would she? Will never take y'all seriously ever again? Ever? That might be the most juvenile thing that has ever been done.

Like it's so dumb.

Are you fricking kidding me?

I know, berdo. Somewhere out there is listening and really enjoying.

Like dying.

Somebody's dying laughing right, literally dying because they're laughing so hard.

If it wasn't me, if we did that to somebody else, I would be cracking up. But because it's at my expense, I'm like trying to dial in and listen to every detail, because this is like somebody that's that, and I'm like, like, why is you egging it on?

Like, what do you mean I have an issue?

He looked it up on crock different platforms.

I don't know these.

There was some legitimate research done on the actual timeline of the reason all that, but because I had to have something to say in Phil I mean, at that point.

This is people out there listening. You see what I deal with, y'all.

See what I deal with that, y'all see what I deal with all right now, y'all see what I'm dealing with. By the way, who the hell would take him off my draft rock?

Unbelievable?

He didn't work out.

Who cares if he works out at the pro day? Who cares?

Real quick?

A round of applause for Lee Mark behind the scenes making that happen too. We had to turn around a little bit of sound there, so round of applause for you guys to be able to get that done in the short of my tongue, and especially with var being being there and somehow sneaking it around.

And not make it noticeable. I don't move.

I don't move from my seat. So it's so eat and and Jonas knows that I thought.

We was better than that.

Jonas, you know what you violated me.

I was trying.

I got it.

I got to go to the restroom. I try not to laugh the whole time. Like this is so ridiculous, Like it's it's preposterous. Of course i'd have an issue with your crotch, bro it's it's not a place I.

Want to be.

That's why I asked you about mine.

Yeah, I don't want to crowch either, end up pregnant, like I don't want I don't. I don't want to deal with your crouch either.

All Right, this is ridiculous now that we've exposed the the twelve year old uh lie that we just told, the juvenile lie.

That is so basic. I mean, it's really good.

Is this a great execution? Is a great excuse? Is it really that big of a deal that he's not working out of just pro day Andrew Rose says he's going to work out.

For teams for him.

In my opinion, though, like again, if he and especially considering the injuries, the shoulder one can would be a tricky one. It's one that look, you know, people can disagree with his agent's advice to him, although at the end of the day, he selected his agent to give him what is probably the best advice, And I guess I just I'd say this, if you're going to air on the side of anything with a guy who's viewed as the number one overall prospect and draft, why would you want to stress a stress fracture more before it's healed. If his foots an issue, why would you want to put his shoulder in any bit of harm's way at this point, Like, you've seen what he can do in the football field. You can interview him, you can test him whatever you want, like that's what's going to be most important, and that he's ready week one for whatever team takes them. So I understand that I'm making an exception for this particular prospect, but that's because he is an exception, you know. If this is Travis Hunter at Dual Carter, Yeah, you make exceptions because they're that talented of players. We heard Albert Breer talk about it yesterday. I'll echo that sentiment from watching Travis Hunter, from watching a Dual Carter, that's how I feel about them, Like, yeah, they don't have to do anything.

You wrap them up in bubble wrap.

You get them the draft, let a team take them, and then make sure they can just be ready to play week one. That's the most important thing. And if you're dealing with nagging injuries, man, this is a long rookie season. A lot of people don't understand. These young men get done at least especially in the case of Abdul Carter playing for the semi finals. All right into what is that January, they turn around and have to basically start getting ready, preparing themselves for the combine, for a pro day, for private workouts.

It doesn't stop.

They get drafted, they go right with the team, they start working out, they go through OTA's, they go through mini camp, they.

Have a bit of a break in the summertime back in the training camp. Like, it does not stop. This is the longest season of their life.

And for him in particular, you don't want to focus on all the stuff that doesn't matter that that's not the most meaningful part. And that's week one during the season. So again there's exceptions to the rule. This is that case for Abdul Carter.

In my opinion, I wonder if any more reports will come out of the pro day today of participants and non participants from Michael or someone on a serious note. On a more serious note, I just wonder will there be Now I don't even like I've seen it. I've seen the headline pop up that he's not working out on television. Because I'm not going to base it off of listening to y'all. I did see that the headline popped up that Abdul would not be working out. I'm just curious will there be as much attention placed on if other people don't participate?

That's what I would be curious to see.

And what is that?

What's the narrative that comes comes from it? Because now I'm kind of second guessing even saying that it was the agent that may have done it. You know, I don't know what the reasoning reasoning is or what the plan of it is, but it would appear that, you know, the two that the people are all going to be there to see first and second aren't participating.

So that should be interesting. Abdul and I don't know, man, you know, I will see what happens. Like, let's let's see what the reports say. So when they talk about less you want to break it. You want to break that now, I don't know. I don't do breaking news. Yeah, I don't want to do that. You can if you want, I really could, but I don't. Why not I just said it without saying it. Yeah, but you want to make it.

I don't violating. I don't like violating. You know how I get information?

Yeah, but you're not airing, you're not giving the sources name out.

You're just yeah.

But you know, I'm just real particular about stuff like that. Every once in a while. I just gave y'all what I gave y'all.

What if do with it? What you will?

What if there was the breaking news sounder attached to it? Our go ahead, Tonal, go ahead? Do you have the breaking news sounder and you have the sounder.

Back breaking news from Fox Sports?

Well, apparently Tyler or Warren will not be participating in the pro day at Penn State today as well, So.

There you have it breaking her which news.

Again, if you're looking at an overall prospect, he's right up there with the other two names we mentioned. The difference being it's just a position that I think in most cases you're saying, all right, like how high do we value that now I would I would say he's a without a doubt, a first round pick because the team's going to find a way of utilizing him a variety of ways, but again not surprising, like I think there's gonna be a team that targets him, that has a need for a mismatch like that in pass coverage, and a guy that can do a bunch of different things for you. It just depends on, like when you start building your roster, how much you prioritize that over that edge, over that lockdown corner, over that you know, cornerstone or blindside left tackle or tackle in general nowadays, And obviously before all that is a quarterback, So like those four possession positions come before that, and I would throw wide receiver in there. The problem is this year's not viewed as quite as good of a class at wide receiver, at least at the top end.

So that's where you start looking at.

Saying, well, if we can find a guy like Tyler Warren who can come in give us a mismatch and be that Rob Gronkowski for us, Travis Kelcey for us, whoever you want to point to, that would be where we want to spend that pick. So it's you can understand why it's not doing that. It could even be injury lidden for all I know, not that that's being reported here again by Michael Ross or anyone else for that matter.

There's some people who think that Tyler Warren could go as high as seven to the Jets. I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, I would go on the limb and say he is the most versatile football player in this year's draft, and that includes Travis Hunter. There you go, I'll say it. I believe he is the most versatile football player in terms of what you can do with him in this entire draft. Is he a better prospect than Rock Bauers.

Yes, yes, yes, in my estimation, yes he is.

I'll put it this way. He's he's a better he's a better blocker than Bauers was coming out that. I'd probably still make that case that he's going to be in his rookie year.

I don't know that he was.

As It's tough because I think as far as their dynamic ability catch in the football, it's it's a wash. They're pretty even, pretty even, And I think, again, I don't know that this was a well maybe it was just any Kotoinicki in their offense. But to Levar's point, he was used more like he plays off the ball more, he does more things running the football more.

That wasn't really Bauer's role. So again, the one thing that always concerns.

Me when you have a guy like this who's special and could be a mismatch, is if he goes to a play that doesn't know.

How to use him.

I mean, that is always going to be the life long concern for.

All of us.

Right but but but but even then, even more so for a guy who's like special like that is you get sometimes these play callers who they have a system and they're like trying to figure out how to fit him within their system instead of building plays that Plato his strengths out around him. So think about think about Andy Kotinikki this year. He put him back there at the wildcat quarterback. He put them He put him out there as a wide receiver. He had your traditional tight end, he could plays like a full back. He put him in a variety of positions. He's very good play caller everywhere possible exactly. And that's and that's that's what I'm saying is you'll get some guys in the NFL who they won more of. I don't want to say cookie cutter, but they have the framework of an offense cookie cutter, and they don't get outside of that.

And that's that's my concern.

Is you got a guy who's in that world and he doesn't know how to weave a guy in who's got this special talent ability to do a bunch of different things.

There have clearly been pro teams that have separated and created a gap in the distance. And how they use their tight ends, like you know those organizations, some of them just pop right out, you know, right up at you. You know, you look at Baltimore, they use their tight end a ton. The Steelers they use their tight ends a ton. The the Eagles, they they use their tight.

Ends a ton.

I mean that those are like the first ones that kind of jump off, you know, the screen at me. I mean, then you think about the Niners, you obviously you think about Kansas City, like there are teams that you and and to be honest with you, when I look at how Tyler Warren is as a player, I think he's the next iteration of of a Kelsey of of the the why am I blanking on his name? And uh in san fran Kittle kittle Ago, he's an ext iteration because he's he's, he's big. He he is a blocker, and I mean a real blocker, not just a blocker. He's he really can block really well. But his his ability to run routes, his ability to find the open spaces and in defenses, his catch radius, all those things. He's pretty phenomenal. He was fun to watch in person at the end.

Dude, he's a pretty phenomenal dude.

Man.

That's That's what I'll say. And I'm not I'm not jockeinging because he's a penn stater. I mean, I I like him because he's a pen stater. But Tyler Warren is the real deal. Like I would say it, like, hey, maybe he's okay, but I think you know what's.

Interesting about this though, is he didn't run the fortieth That common right m hm. And so if he doesn't run it the pro day, there there's that question in mind like okay, well how fast is he? And and maybe some people say, well that really doesn't matter, right, Like Travis Kelce has played for ever first bout Hall of Famer, still extremely effective. George Kittle for that matter too, still extremely effective and obviously not running a four four four five forty at this point. But I do wonder if that because the tape is so good, I mean, it's so good on Tyler Warren that you're like, well, I don't want to do anything that takes away from that. And if I run a forty and you know, we all saw like Xavier ostrepro is in this category. He was a very productive wide receiver at Miami. Sure handed, runs great routes, gives great effort, yards after the catch, yards after contact, like everything you're looking for from a football player in restrep ro. The problem is he ran a four to eight to forty in some cases four to seven on some watches at the Pro Day. So what do you think the narrative is now? Oh, he went from maybe a mid round pick to now being a late round pick because people need to be able to separate and see that sort of speed, even though he plays faster than what he timed. I do wonder if there's a concern if he is running or if he's he's being clocked and running, if they're like, there's no reason to do this because if he does run a four to eight or a four high four to seven, it's it's maybe a ding on him in some ways, even though that's still pretty darn fast for a guy of his size at athletic ability.

Do they have to release the times when you go do a personal a personal workout, do they have to release the information?

No? And always on top of that, My experience is no, they don't. But like my experience, is there anybody from the mill, No, they're not allowed.

No, no, but but my experience was also never having to do anything other than just throwing and kind of working out when and by the way, it used to be where they had to come to your school to do it or or a separate site, not at their facility. So like when you do a visit to a team, you'll meet with their medical staff, the coaching staff, front office, but you don't do anything physical when they come to you. It has to be you know that that's where the workout has to take place or somewhere else. So you know, I'd run the forty at my pro day, So maybe that was the reason why they had a time. They were fine, Like they don't need to do that again. Right in this case, maybe they would, you know, you come back out to work him out and say, hey, we want to see you run a forty and he can decline or he can choose to do it at that point, right.

Yeah, I think that's what it's probably going to turn out to be.

By the way, Adam Schefter did send this out a little bit ago that Abduall Carter did have dinner last night in State College with a large contingent of Brown's officials, including owners Jimmy Haslam, J W. Johnson, and GM Andrew Berry. Earlier this month, he visited the Browns facility and met with multi will be on how about that book? And bro, hey, you know me, all they got to do is figure it out on offense.

If if they get Abdul Carter with Miles Garrett, that that is wow, yeah, wow, that that could be really and just talk about like the mentorship aspect of it, like the teaching aspect of it. I think that would be phenomenal for abdual car and be phenomenal for the Browns.

Brady's still probably still got a places out there, so he could him up with that.

I don't but would love to see that combination. Would love to see those two. In Jim Schwartz's defense, I mean that is I'm telling you, man, it's a stacked roster. I know everyone's gonna make fun of me for picking them last year to win it, or yeah, I think I picked them to win it didn't I yeah, But a lot of it has to do with like how good that team looks on paper and what that team's capable of.

Now.

A lot needs to be decided now this year, especially at the quarterback spot, But I mean, find me a.

Better overall roster. When you're looking at.

The talent that they've got there in Cleveland, it's just it takes a quarterback to bring it together. And unfortunately Watson hasn't really worked out. People would say it's injuries, but even the play that's that's been out there hasn't been great, at least compared to what he did in Houston in some of his high mark years. So that's that's the biggest thing that they have to respond to and figure out at this point. I'd love to see them trade for Cousins. I know it would be it's probably not possible, but I think he would bring a level of like veteran leadership and within that structure and offense, with that O line, that running game, their weapons, that defense that put them directly in the hunt again.

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If you do not hear from Jonas Knox after this segment, it is because I choked him out and possibly choked Lee out.

Mark.

I'm gonna let you slide. I'm gonna let you live. But if y'all do not hear him when we come back from break. It is because I choked him out.

Just so, Michael, those are twenty minutes ago, so you're so far away I can't get a hold of your big ass, but you could get it too.

I'm just telling you that that I owe y'all. I owe y'all big time on that one.

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