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It was a lot to get to in the world of sports. It was a busy weekend. But I feel like we must give congratulations in order many people this morning, but most notably congratulations to somebody who got rich over the weekend. This is a story we've been monitoring, wondering when this is going to happen. Micah Parsons, You're up next. But Rock Party got paid, got paid in a big way by the San Francisco forty nine ers. We were awaiting when is this going to get done? As speculation was, are they, you know, on the same page. But the details, at least that are reported now five years, two hundred and sixty five million dollars, one hundred and eighty one million dollars in guarantee he's and so away we go with what the contract actually means as opposed to what the numbers are that are being reported.
Right, so there's not a ton of details being reported yet. However, it is an extension onto what he was going to make this year, So the contract actually expires in twenty thirty. He would become a free agent in twenty thirty one. So for all you San Francisco forty nine ers fans, you got your guy, brock Perty He's your quarterback for the foreseeable future. And if you're not excited about that, well you're stuck with him. But look, he's played well, he's done a good job in Kyl Shanahan's system, has had pretty much every quarterback that's played in Kyle shanahan system besides Trey Lance. It's a five year, two hundred and sixty five million dollar extension, although when you include twenty twenty five, it really turns into kind of a six year deal. He is going to be slated to make the new money averages fifty three million per year. One hundred and eighty one of that is in total guarantees. Now, again we don't have all the details, but given that again and it's an extension onto the contract that he's currently planned out this year, the average is really closer to forty four million per year, and they'll be able to spread out whatever that signing bonus is once that's once it's filed, once that's announced, over the duration of the contract, so not overly punitive. I think the people out there who are concerned that he's going to break the bank and hamstring the San Francisco forty nine ers from being able to sign other guys because they've had such a talented roster. I don't think it falls in that category. I always I don't think it's going to fall into that category. So it's kind of the best of both worlds. Perty gets his payday, the Shanahan Shanahan and John Lynch get their guy for the foreseeable future, and there's still enough cap space to go around to spend on some of the talented players on that roster.
Yeah, my first my first go at it was okay, it's it does average over fifty million, like he's a fifty million a year guy, But like you said, Q, upon further review, it is in the forties, not in the fifties per year.
It's a it's.
A franchise friendly contract, but it's also a player friendly contract. I think that that's something that should exist more often. You know, there should be a win for both sides in these types of scenarios, and that's what it sounds.
Like what took place. It's interesting because it does look as though.
Kyle Shanahan and we could even say John Lynch in this case, have attached their wagons to Brock party. They're they're they're putting their money down on the table and saying that if we're going to win, it's going to be winning with with Brock Purty as our quarterback. Now, I know we everybody will continue to reference what Puka Nakua said in terms of however much they invest in Brock Purdy means that the window of opportunity may be closing for the forty nine ers. Well, I'll say this, I believe before you even do a deal with Brock Purty, the window of opportunity is closing on this particular team.
Damn damn, yeah, I do.
And because again I don't think it addresses all of the question marks that text, well, I don't know that that's a sticks pick, but but thank you. I'll say this again, there are too many question marks.
The too many question marks are.
Really based off of three individual players collectively. Like I think that the defense, you know, obviously they've had some some losses on that side, losing green Law even though they didn't have him last year. I think it played a part in why that defense wasn't as dynamic as it could be. I thought him and Warner together were a great tandem at the linebacker position. But my biggest questions and concerns are, again, it stems from do you have a healthy Trump Williams? And do you have a motivated Trent Williams? Do you have a healthy Christian McCaffrey. Can he stay healthy during the course of the season. Do you have a healthy Brandon Ayuk? And can Ayuk come back and be the player he needs to be? Those are my biggest question marks and that should be the biggest concerns. And to me, honestly, if you don't have those guys, if you don't have those those players on your team, do you have do you have the players to step in and be more for this forty nine team than what they had this year? And I won't sit there and say it's a definitive no, But what I will say is is that it's too much of a question mark in my eyes to actually feel as though if that were to play out the way that it did this past year, can you hold brock Party accountable for not having his best weapons and his best players they lose, obviously Deebo Samuel. They still have Kittle, which is which is a big deal, but can you get it done with with the other guys that are on this on this roster and I feel like that to me says that it's still a window that's closing, even though you may have a quarterback that once this window for this particular personnel group may close, you may start a rebuild. But it sounds as though they're comfortable with starting a personnel rebuild fellas with Rock Party as their quarterback.
So it was reported yesterday from NBC Sports Bay Area that they are close to finalizing a deal for Fred Warner, so they're looking to lock him up on long term as well too, so they could, you know, in one off season Kittle gets taken care of Rock Party, Fred Warner, you still have your nucleus there. I'm assuming they're not going to have as bad of luck as they did last year where all the injuries took place, everything went on. Yet a guy gets shot in downtown in broad daylight. I'm assuming that wouldn't happen again, but who knows. It just seems like San Francisco. I mean, it seems like I've seen any but that walk there at two thirty is gonna be fun.
But it's like bags of homeless people.
Yea, I do't know little homeless hopscotch, you know, to start your day. But it does feel like you know, anything that could go wrong for that team went wrong last year, so maybe you know law of averages kicks in and it's not going to go as poorly this time around. I don't know that the windows completely closed. I would still say I kind of like the rams chances in that division, and I don't have no idea what to expect from Seattle in Arizona, I think I don't.
Have no idea. I feel like Arizona's building something right. I mean, they improved, they've gotten better.
When Kyler Mary is on the field with that team, they're a better team. If he's able to stay on the field and not leave due to injuries. It's it's a They're a competitive team, they really are. But the rest of them again, I think, obviously I say question marks for the Niners, and I agree with you here, Jonas is that they are they are a question mark. Seattle is a question mark. And again I highlighted the forty nine ers being the question mark. I think the biggest win this offseason for a team was probably Matthew Stafford getting retained by by the Rams. And it's a pretty decent team. They lose Cup, but Pookin Nakua seems poised to be able to make a run at it and being the guy I mean, you have to see if he can stay healthy as well. He's dealt with little little injuries as well that have have kept him off the field. Their defense, I think will be pretty pretty significant. They'll take a pretty significant jump in the right direction this year.
I think the Rams are the team to be in the West.
I don't understand why they have the forty nine ers as as the odds betting favorite to win that division.
The Niners schedules pretty manageable. Like they've got some real bad teams on the schedule. You know, no, no offense to the Cleveland Browns.
No, there you go.
You know, I'm just saying, listen, no offense.
When do they pay the Bears?
Huh?
Well, when do they play that team with the quarterback doesn' want to be there?
You know that's Week seventeen. They've got the Bears that will be featured on Sunday Night Football. That'll probably get crab a spoon. Okay, that'll probably fly. So you know, just maybe things are looking on the f and up now all of a sudden, brock Purty gets paid. By the way, speaking of Kaya Williams, doesn't this kind of justify their reasoning with you know, we'd like to go somewhere where we feel like we could really flourish and shine because Brock Party was taken last in the draft, ends up in a great situation and just made generational wealth. Like this just goes to show you it's all about development. It's all about where you land and where you end up. And if you end up in an awful situation, you don't get to live to see what this looks like for Brock Party moving forward.
Well you may, you may, but just be different circumstances, that's all. Ye I don't know about that. I mean, there's like a jackpot, like a winning ticket.
San Francisco would be one of the spots La Rams whoever's going to replace Matt Stafford, that's a big spot. Being Sean mcvay's system. There's a number of places. But yeah, no, it's when he got drafted last overall. I mean, look, he's earned it. He's done everything that they've asked him to do. He's showed up in big moments. He's been tough. That's part of it too, though, like he had to do his part, but he was he was given every opportunity to succeed because of the organization that he's in and obviously the way they're able to help players develop players. It's not just Brock Purty. I mean, look at some other guys who are in their system. You know, they're able to maximize their talent ability. You know, if Deebo Samuel, you know, hadn't gone to San Francisco, would he have become the type of player that Kyle Shanahan, you know, helped him become within a system or he used him in such a variety of ways to play to a skill set. You make the same, you know statement about Kyle Yuschek. There's not a lot of teams that know how to utilize a fullback in the run game, but Kyle Shanahan does. Kittle McCaffrey. I mean, you keep going down the line. All these guys are talented enough and good enough to go to demonstrate you know they their true ability. But if you're not in a system with a play caller who's creative enough and understands how to put them in a position to succeed, none that's going to work. So I mean, credits all, you know, all those around it. But it's huge, huge for Rock Party. I will ask this though, because LeVar said it is.
The window.
Then done for you? Jonas?
With San Francisco, No, I would say no, just because I don't know who you look at in the NFC and go outside of Philadelphia. Oh yeah, that's a team you gotta worry about.
Right, So this is why I asked this question. If your San Francisco hypothetically speak, this is a complete hypothetical, okay, but let's just say they played in the AFC. If you stack up and compare Party to the other quarterbacks in the AFC, I kind of wonder, like, is he getting this deal? Are they doing this?
Like?
Does it look the same?
No?
It might, Jonas, come on, it only might because if he's doing what he's doing in San France, if he were having the same results with a team in the AFC, you got to try to keep pace, let alone win it all. You got to try to keep pace. I mean, if you think about it, Lamar Jackson is trying.
To keep pace.
As good as he's been is a phenomenon. As he's been, he's trying to keep pace. Joe Burrow trying to keep pace came close closer than Lamar but didn't get it. Hasn't gotten there. Josh Allen, same exact thing. You're trying to keep pacing the AFC. That's how competitive the AFC has been, and need I say, maybe as dominant as Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs have been during this course of time. So I don't think it will be a foregone conclusion that he doesn't get compensated in the same way. If he's getting the same results with a different team in the AFC. You got to try to keep pace. That doesn't mean you're going In fact, Purdy has made it further than those names that I've mentioned outside of Joe Burrow think about.
It, Yeah, but I would also say the path there is much more difficult than it is in the NFC to where if you get to a super Bowl, I'm pretty played great in that super Bowl and you know you talk to Steve Spagnolo said afterwards, he was fantastic, Like, yeah, he did in that one off situation against Patrick Mahomes, he was awesome. But if he had one off, yeah, but if he had to go through you know, Buffalo or Baltimore or Cincinnati, who the hell knows if he ends up there, Like you know, that's a that's a whole different story than having to deal with some.
Of the teams you go.
But then you got to say, the question itself is hypothetical, right, if we're making it a hypothetical, I'm assuming all things giving given in the hypothetical that he's having the same type of seasons that he's having in San Francisco. That's what I that's what I would take from it.
I think the difference is like the talent of the other quarterbacks you're going up against.
Yeah, it's different. It's just yeah, it's different.
I mean you can, Okay, I'll ask this, who's the most talented quarterback in that division?
Joe Burrow in the NFC, Kyler Murray is the most talented. Okay, there you got your name, Stafford guy.
You guys could debate all you want. But so even with this contract, he's the third best in the division.
M hmm, yeah, I mean.
Jaylen Milroe. Damn yeah, I mean yeah. So look, I just think he's he benefits from being with the Niners. It's no hate, it's no you know, you don't get to pick where you go. Even though Caleb Williams tried. It's but he ended up in a great spot. It is it is. I will say this, and I know.
What You're going to slide down in there like nobody.
You know, I'm saying, you don't get to pick your spot. Caleb Williams ended up in a great know what I'm saying. Rock Party ended up in a great spot. Caleb Williams, you know, he tried to pick a spot. It didn't work. But I still think that I'm not certain that Trey Lance really got a legitimate shot to be the guy.
There with the Niners.
He must have been bad, like in practice when they saw him practice, when they saw him play, they must have been like, who to f.
Scouted this dude? Instead? We should draft him.
He really didn't get much of a chance.
Really well, he just got let go from his last team.
Yeah, well, think about this, how many teams could give up what they gave up to trade up to take him and then be able to overcome that.
It's pretty interesting.
That's what's crazy about is that typically divides an organization. It tears down an organization and probably makes it difficult for John Lynch the general manager, and Kyle Shannon to work together, or whoever's within the scouting department to work together. It didn't it didn't do anything. It literally had almost no impact whatsoever outside of that organization not being able to draft around brock perty or put more talented players on that roster.
Which, by the way, Trey Lance is probably somewhere sitting in the corner or a shower, sitting on the floor, curled up in a fetal position, upset. I know, I would be. I would be You had everything, you had, all the odds, Like think about how you've had, You had all the odds stacked in your favor to be in the same situation, if not better, because you were a high draft pick, which means you would have commanded a higher, a bigger contract, and you didn't get it done in San Francisco with John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan.
And as with the Chargers, you know, yeah, well maybe.
He's a professional backup and they say, that's the best position. You know, everybody I know that's been a quarterback, they say, if you got to transition to a position, that's the best position in sport. It's the backup quarterback.
Yeah, you become an insurance agent. There you go. Yeah, you're basically selling teams insurance like, hey, something goes wrong, I'm here for you.
I'm here for you. I'm here able to.
Make sure you guys get through that game and get through the next few until you know your car gets repaired, and then I'll then I'll be back there just kind of waiting to come back in to save the day again.
Damn.
That's awesome.
I love that for I love that for every quarterback that's out there backing up the guy that's starting.
You know, Yeah, I love that.
But then there, I mean, there's then there's some who are like, I don't want to play. Yeah, it's this team is terrible. I go into this team, I'm gonna get taken out like they're gonna it's not gonna work out well for me.
I'm a little scary.
How do you get out of that?
Well, I just depend It's on the type of savviness that that veteran backup. As some cases, they just seelat on like a parasite to the starter and they hope they can survive through the coaching changes, the general managers changes. There's those guys out there some on TV. There's other guys out there who they uh, you know, they'll just kind of wiggle the way out and find their way to another organization. They just they figure it out and they know how, they know how to talk to the guys to get somewhere else.
So not a bad gig. It's crazy.
It's more political with quarterbacks if we try it that, they'd be like, LaVar, get the half out of my face and get out there and play some football, buddy.
We need some tackles, We need some I n T s, and we certainly need some sacks from you.
That sound that sounded like a front office executive. Can you give me someone from the coaching staff that says that to you?
Well, well, Hoss, why do all coaches have like Southern accents?
Like sounds better when they're a coach and they have a Southern accent, It just does.
Well, Hoss, I'm gonna need you to get out there, I'm gonna need you to make me a play.
B A A baby, B A A winning doubt, B A A.
Yes, sir, let's go do it. That's all you need, Yes, sir. Now, are you wondering what B A A means?
Jonas? She got it?
Do you do you know what the acronym is now? B an athlete, b A A baby, winning doubt, b A A.
Yeah, I don't know that.
B A A house. Yeah, thanks, coach?
What just what exactly did you say when when the three receiver goes to the flat and the two receiver goes down the seam and we're in cover to what what exactly B A A?
Wait?
Wait?
Wait some coverage there?
Do I just sit in the hook? Do you want me to carry? Do you want me to carry the seam?
Like?
What? B A A baby?
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We do have a follow up here on a story that we discussed last week that seemed at least a little bit curious and that story involves recently retired Derek Carr. The recently retired Derek Carr who just didn't want to go through the rigors of you know, the shoulder issue and having to get you know, surgery and the rehab process and just decided to listen, man, thirty four years old. I've done it long enough, I've made my money, and it's just time to go. Thank the Saints organization, thank the Raiders organization. And he's off to retirement and well, and then all of a sudden this came out. According to Jeremy Fowler and Catherine Terrell of ESPN uh OH, a Derek car representative spoke with at least two teams in the market for a quarterback about potential interest in the veteran, according to three league sources. While one of the sources classified the contact as indirect, both front officers were made aware that Carr might be looking for a new playing home. A shoulder injury never appeared on the injury report during the twenty twenty four season, and a team source said that Carr went through a routine physical at the end of the season like all the other players on the roster, and that no issues were voiced about the shoulder and that's this is why. According to player and team sources, questions and curiosity linger among some of the Saints building about the injury that inspired Carr's retirement. So ah, that doesn't exactly sound like somebody who was just ready to walk away from the game. That sounds like somebody that was just ready to walk away from New Orleans. What it feels like to me, Yeah, so what you have. That was kind of the only way to do it, though, right.
Just retire and that's all you got to do to become a free agent.
It's one way to do it.
Yeah, that's cold blooded, their car.
I take back everything I said about you. That's cold blooded right there. Man, I would have retired in year two if I had known that.
Why is he retiring in.
His second year?
I got to get the hell up out of here.
You don't see what's going on? Retirement, par you twenty three?
What's the plan?
The plan is to just you know, try to live my life. You know, you see what happens.
Steelers, you want to come get me, you know, I could, I could find a way to come out of retirement.
I guess.
I mean, I'm bored now, you know, I've been home for about three four days. It's probably time to get back to work.
You know.
It just didn't feel like a cut and dry It was time situation based on some of the stuff that you kind of heard throughout the off season. And they even point out in the article that you know, whatever they were going through, they wanted to keep it in house, and they wanted you know, he didn't want all that stuff. But apparently he had virtually no contact with anybody with the team all off season. Kellen Moore just got hired. He never talked to him. It just there was a clear disconnect about where they were at. There was obviously the you know, the trade request that they kind of kicked the tires on earlier. So when it comes out that, well, he's just ready to walk away and he doesn't want to go through I think if he was in a better situation, maybe he would have looked at rehab, maybe would have looked at you know, getting a surgery, maybe he would have It just none of it added up to me, Like it just didn't make sense from the game.
There's just there was too much smoke. I mean, that's the reality. This offseason. There was way too much smoke surrounding the whole situation. What I never understood about the shoulder injury was when Derek Carr came out to talk about it, he made it sound as if the Saints knew what was going on the whole time, that this wasn't such that just popped up. It had been bothering him or aggravating him for a while. So if that's the case, it couldn't have been a surprise to the Saints organization. It could have been a surprise to him if it was truly a debilitating shoulder injury that was gonna end his career. So none of that really made a lot of sense, especially for the timing of when they announced that he I'm gonna step down and you know all that. So I look at it just think he's thirty four, played some good football. If he does need a surgery, he now has time to get surgery, rehab finding their team. He's thirty five. Teams are still willing to pay a lot of money for a guy that can go and then and be serviceable as your starting quarterback. And he has no doubt been that when he's been healthy. Regardless of what critics may say there's a need for that, there's a team he will do that. There's teams that will sign him to a deal. I mean, look at Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins got one hundred million, not even to start one season. There's some team out there that on the other side of this is gonna be willing to sign Derek Carr to a contract at least with what Sam Darnold got this past year, and potentially more in guarantees. And you have to step back, especially at this point in time of your career. A lot of guys will step back and go, well, when I'm done, where else am I even able to make thirty plus million a year?
You're not.
None of these guys are gonna jump into anything next that's gonna make them thirty million per year. So to sit there and think, oh, he's gonna retire Na, I don't know about that. It's just a way of being able to get out of it, allow New Orleans to move on. You're then gonna be able to find another place to go. It doesn't have to be this, you know, whole big ordeal. It could be probably a little better done and he can get healthy. You know, he can get healthy with what he's dealing with.
I just wonder is there a betting line out there on this? And if not, can we create one? What what are the odds that he comes out of retirement and do what? We take odds on what team he ends up with? Uh, that would be the first thing I would thinks.
I would say, if I if I was going to price the line, I would say, odds that he stays retired is probably like a minus one point eighty. And on on the flip side, you would say, what like about a plus one thirty? You know, that he comes out of retirement, like like it's the favorite would be he's going to stay retired. And I would absolutely bet that he comes back, takes a year off, talks with his family. They prey on it. They you know, do it at like I swear to got and yeah, and I think and I think he's going to be back. And by the way, if you're the Saints, this isn't exactly the worst thing in the world, just from the standpoint, well, he save money, save the money. And let's be honest here, you've been needing to rip the band aid off this thing for several years now. They've not been a contender, and they've not really had a window open to compete since, if we're being truthful, probably the NFC title game in which they got screwed on that call by the Rams. It's been a long and they've just been kind of treading water. Drew Brees had the shoulder issues or had whatever he was going through, and they just were trying to figure it out afterwards, and you've had coaches come in and I just since Sean Payton left, I think there was a reason Sean Payton walked away. Sean Payton was like, yeah, writing's on the wall, this ain't happening.
I just think if Derek Carr, if he were to come out of retirement, I'm not going to be upset about it or anything like that. It just doesn't seem to me to be very honorable, that's all. I just think that's that's some wow cheeze, Like I'm a retire and then come back and get paid again on a different team. I mean, why isn't that done more often? Why don't why don't guys do this option more often? I just don't understand it.
I feel like I don cheat. Actually it has.
Been done with some teams, you know, throughout the years. It's just I think for the hard part is at that age, no one wants to question your desire to play the game, and it obviously becomes a big question if that's what you're using to get out of the previous situation. And I also think teams are wise enough to say, well, if you did it to them, you're not going to do that to us too, Right Like if if you if you walked in to a date and you first met, you know, the girl, and you're talking and she's saying to you, well, my last relationship, I actually faked my death. Yeah. I had one of my you know, family members reach out, and that's how bad I wanted to get out of the relationship. I just I didn't want to tell them, So I had my sister reach out and basically we made up a death and I ended up moving and et cetera, et cetera. You'd be like, what, uh okay, I do you do that to them? You might be able to wait, crazy right.
Probably they say I will probably say, uh, you know, I gotta go to a restroom really quickly, and probably will slide out, hopefully where she seated.
Yeah, it doesn't. She's not able to see me. Leave up out.
Okay, okay, let me play out. Let me plout this scenario. Knowing you all right and how you operate. The problem is you might find your way right back to that location and that person might be right at that location when you have to be moving on to the next one.
Mm hmm. That's okay. So you put your to that she's dead to me, get it. Yeah, you've done it before. You did to me.
Now that's what happened. Sorry, I don't know how to corpses riversad. Hey, by the way, isn't this a similar I mean.
And you're right, I do go to the same place.
This isn't this kind of similar to what Carson Palmer did with the Bengals. He wasn't happy there, didn't want to be sack just set him out, see you guys. I mean it was a little bit more contentious and a little bit more public, but it's basically.
And then Arizona.
Yeah, this is great, so Sulivar saying it's a little disingenuous.
So it really is. But you know what, more power to you if you could pull it off.
And the team is still willing to pay you and you got yourself out of a bad situation and a bad set up.
Good for you, man, good for you. Have at it.
I think we should hear, way, we should hear at least two or three cases of retirement every single year if you could actually really successfully pull this off, like that retired, like who oh, man, now he's coming back.
Okay, you know, I don't know.
It just seems like how are you able to do that?
Yeah, you shouldn't be like it should be if you retired, that team retains your rights. And if you were to come out of retirement, then you got to go back and you got to deal with what, you know what the situation it is you because otherwise I mean, how do you I mean, you're getting out of a contractual situation. And while I'm not pro I'm not pro franchise, I'm just saying, how does that work?
You know what I mean? Like, how does that work?
Like you just going get out of being here like we got you? Because if you do that in a draft, they retain your rights. Right if you say I don't want to play for you, I'm not going to play whoever drafts you, they own the rights to that player.
What would that be any different?
They would still have the rights to them in this case.
They would still have the rights to Derek Carr.
You have to figure it out.
But you're hoping at this point a year from now, they've moved on, right, right, Okay, all right, It's like it's.
Like again hypothetical scenario. You fake your death, you come back, you see the person. You're like, oh, well, they're married now, so it doesn't really matter, right, Like they've moved on, right, okay, So they don't have as as an issue with it. Okay. By the way, Jonas told me about that, like he's done that before to an individual, So.
Dang, what like the fake death thing? Yeah, I mean I've pulled some stuff to get out of dates, to get out of having to do certain things, Like I've I had a like I'll be kind probably about a three approach me and corn bread corn bread me. I don't know what she was eating, but more like everything. But she approached me and wanted to dance with me. And as she was bringing me out to the dance floor, I pretended to blow my knee out and fell on the ground and just started writhing in pain.
So I couldn't.
I couldn't think of any thing else that's embarrassing. That's been embarrassing not only to you, but if she was a real solid three, then y'all should have both been embarrassed. Because please believe, she knew she was a three. Even if she had good confidence level, she still knew she was a three.
Everybody knew she was.
If you thought she was a three and she knew she wasn't far off from it, that means everybody else in the room probably thought she was a one or two.
Yeah, you embarrassed everybody, Bro, And you drew.
You drew too much attention to what it is that you had going on. You should have just like nipped it at the butt before you started walking with her.
I mean, she's very.
Inconsiderate of you, bro, and I have to foul that away as to that's how you handled it.
She she scared me into an mcl sprand like, I don't know what to tell you, Like it happens from times you said you were rolling on the fall on the ground right next to the bar top, next to the bar top. Yeah, I was like, oh my god, I can't, I can't. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, and my my buddy just turned and he was laughing so hard he couldn't even he was so embarrassed. He was like humiliated. I'm like, I didn't know what else to do. I've been drinking. Seemed like the best idea. By the way, I do have a fun.
Say it's okay, I don't know that.
You know, you know what, maybe next time, you know, I'm just go ahead and act like I'm walk with you and then blow a knee.
You've had knee issues in the past, right, is that why you go to the knee? Because yeah, technically do have any issue?
Because because i do know what that looks like. So I've got sort of a certain intel on exactly how a real injury would look, so I can I could sell it pretty good. So there's that. By the way, I do have a man. In defense of Derek Carr and his decision.
To not want to be more interesting and not want to be in New Orleans, what would you what does she say? What does she like bump this New Orleans? What does she say to you while you were on the floor or did she help you? Did she try? Because that seems to me like she would have tried to help you and be like, you know, assist to you, or did she walk off like oh, this dude's a weirdo, or like.
She initially was trying to talk to me and hold her hand out to help me, and every time she tried to talk, I would just go okay, so I would just drown out the noise like, oh no, jug, it's the knee cano, and I just and then she eventually just and then as soon as she walked away, I got up so and you were fine here, Yeah, it's the cap. You were fine, like everything was good, I swear to God. True story.
Can you imagine her telling her friends though you should feel awful about yourself, imagine her going to her friends and being like, yeah, I was with this guy is really nice, good looking guy, didn't seem like he gets on the sun a lot, but outside of that, he was awesome. And then his knee blew out and he was like crying like a baby because he blew out his knee.
I've all like, ah no, not the knee cap, Like, yeah, she.
Had never seen this before my life.
You know what, it worked, and it's not my problem if she felt bad about it, it's not my problem. I don't want to do.
She's doing great right now. I want you to know that I'm rooting for her in this instance.
Yeah, just so she knows you scared somebody into a knee injury.
All right with your approach. That's ridiculous.
Man.
By the way, you say some of the most ridiculous stuff. Bruh, I wondered. I mean you could have still sucked her blood though, I mean, come on, man, you're not supposed to like discriminate on like what number rank they are, Like you're a vampire.
Okay, you know what I mean?
Ay, discriminated anybody that just tuned in, and that's the first thing there.
You're still get to suck her blood. Probably need the reference.
Sucked her blood?
Brou Yeah, I'm very very pale. So you know they accused me of looking like a vampire, is what it is.
I mean, you weren't Twilight. If they go watch the second one and you were in that movie, you gotta go watch it.
He's a next stop. Now Larda is interested to I just watched that one three times last week, and it's only because I kept falling asleep. Okay, Hey, by the way, just why didn't you fake like a back injury. You've had back issues before. The way, if you deal like with back injuries like I deal with back injuries, you know that you know the right mattress makes all the difference in the world. Mattress firms sleep experts. They'll help you find the perfect bed for your unique needs. Jonas, So next time, try faking a back injury and go to mattress firm where you can get fixed up. And especially during mattress Firm's Memorial Day sale, they'll help you sleep at night.
They should have a mattress firm mattress at every single dive bar so that you can fake oh no, no, that you're tiring a different direction there, okay, by the way, no, no, no, no, you got to fake the knee injury and and fake tired ness and lay down on the mattress firm and so that you're comfortable when you hurt your knee.
By the way, that's by the way, that's the most interesting Lee's been in the show, the entire show thus far. We're an hour twenty into it. When you said dive bar, Lee perked up, like whack them all? Now he's interested. Max ready to know lee mattress, firm and a dive bar. Good goal. I like it. Put it in the corner.
There you go, put it in the corner.
I'll just make sure that some way, somehow, that the wrong one gets a hold of you, that you have a way to get to the mattress. I mean, if they walking you away from that mattress, you walking in the wrong direction, you know what I mean. Just don't be the one that gets walked over to the mattress, is what I would say. That would be painful. Man.
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Can can I give you one compliment, one complaint about this weekend in sports? Yeah? I really felt like with the Preakness, the PGA Championship, the Game Sevens, I was like, man, this weekend's gonna be nuts, And unfortunately it wasn't what I'd hoped it would be. Oh, I meantally, I should I should add in LEVARDUS teams squaring off Notre Dame, Penn State and Lacrosse. I'll get We'll get to that in a second. But like, I don't know. I was just I thought it was gonna be such a great weekend, and I thought the Preakness, and maybe you look at the PGA Championship, there's a little bit of drama, but for the most part, Scotty kind of taking care of business. In the Game sevens that have kind of been a dud, but overall still still fun weekend of sports outside of our normal football talk.
Preakness was the best event of the entire weekend. Both Game sevens sucked, the race was good, and Scotty Scheffler was dominant. So yeah, I mean which.
By intrigue, how.
How good? Because we've seen golfers go on these little runs where like Jordan Speith had a run for a while where it was like, man, who's going to stop him? And brooks Kopka had his run, which, by the way, brooks Kopka was seen at a gas station buying a case of beer after he got eliminated.
Well said that they were there doing the same thing, and they're like, oh, there's brooks Kepka.
Apparently he's but isn't he a isn't he a Mikola Vultra guy? I think he's sponsored by them, And he was seen with a like an eighteen of Miller Lite, so I can't imagine the sponsors thrilled with that, so drigging similar shades.
So the last four seasons, this is sky Scheffler's numbers. Eighty two starts. He's got forty five top fives, so more than half of the tournaments he enters into he finishes in the top five. He's got eighteen wins, three major, a gold medal. On top of that, he's only missed four cuts. So he's made seventy five million in PGA Tour money alone, and he spent one hundred and forty one weeks at number one. So through the math on that, we're coming up on three years here. Pretty pretty ridiculous for any athlete, any sport to be kind of sitting up at the top for that long.
And a guy who was told he had to change clubs before the tournament, allegedly, I don't know if his name's been.
No, he came out and said out, Okay, Yeah, they asked him about it afterwards. So he's actually the one that pushed for greater testing to everyone, which makes sense.
Now. The NBA game, the Game seven that turned out to be a wipeout. Aaron Gordon of the Denver Nuggets. He had this to say about what could improve the playoff format for the league moving forward.
Health is a lot you know, I would really really appreciate it if there were a couple of days in between games in the playoffs instead of every other day, regardless if you go seven games. And I understand, if you do your work early and you get first seed, then you can have some time off. But I think the days in between games not just an off day and a travel day, but a travel day and a recovery day, just two, just two days. I think the product of the game would be a lot better. I think there'd be a yeah, just a better product on the floors. Just to give all these professional athletes just, you know, one more day of rest, and you would see a higher level of basketball, probably less blowouts.
So that's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is.
It sounds like pampered explanation.
They're going back to backs. Now it's we need two days off in between games. Okay, got it.
I was just talking to I would that would that have made a difference to you guys? You don't think so. If that, if Denver specifically would have got more rest, of course.
It would have made a difference. I mean, when you get more rest, it makes a difference. But I think the essence of competition, especially the playoffs, to me, is considered to be a tournament. That's a tournament, right, And when you play in a tournament, I mean, before you're in the pros making millions and millions of dollars, what are you doing. You're playing not only one game in a day, You're playing multiple games in a day. If you're playing high level elite travel basketball on these these these travel teams you're playing sometimes you're playing two games, maybe even three games a day, maybe three, but more often than not you're probably playing two games. So the idea of it is is that if based upon what sport you choose, you have to understand the level of frequency and how many games are being played. If you want it more rest time, and then you want it more time in between games than Aaron Gordon maybe you should have chose a different sport. You know, sports like boxing they give you a ton of rest time. Sports like football, they give you a week's time more often than not. There are some sports that give you more time to rest in between games. But you chose a sport where there are a high frequency amount of games and once you get to.
The playoffs, you got to get through the playoffs.
How long would the playoffs be if you started giving them a travel day and a rest day in between each game. That would drag out terribly long, if you ask me, And I don't think that would be beneficial at all.
Wrap up event around Halloween, we'll get a n NBA SA.
How does the rest schedule fair as compared to hockey they're playing they're playing seven game series as well. And I'm trying to think when the NBA Finals ends and when the Stanley Cup ends, it's around rot some time, right, Yeah, yep.
I would think it's more grueling on your body to do hockey. It's got to be more grueling, right, But you're playing the same amount of games, right, Hockey they have more games, don't they.
Or maybe not? Is it the same amount? It's over one hundred games.
No, it's eighty two. Just saying how.
Many basketball players I do play basketball have? How many does hockey have?
Eighty two?
Okay, the same, the same.
I just think it's an unnecessary complaint. I mean, he can.
I have no problem with him giving an opinion like he's hurt. Of course he will want to be healthier playing in the game. Of course he does make a difference. I mean, it's not like you're listening to a guy that doesn't make a difference on the court. But part of part of it all is can you make it through. It's a battle of attrition, like they they they used to beat the hell.
Out of Michael Jordan. He started lifting weights.
I mean, guys started working out more to get stronger in basketball. I mean, you see the bodies of some of these dudes. I mean, come on, man, they don't. It ain't gonna take much to bang somebody up and and and Gordon is a well built dude. He's not one of them smaller slight built dudes. Imagine a chet Homegren, you know what I mean. Likes to me, he's thin. Damn he's he's bone.
He's as far as wind puppet. But it's close.
You think you get behind a javelin.
It's it's close. I mean he could do pickaboo with you. I mean, it's it's close. I see you, I see you like it's to me. It's just you gotta be able to endure.
I think that's part of of what plays a role in greatness, is the guys that are able to endure. And if someone like Steph Curry isn't complaining about it because he went out banged up too. Guys are like that that you could clearly see getting physically out doone and beat up. I still don't get it, but I understand. I mean, I don't get why they would think that they should do it any differently, but I understand why they would want to have more rest or want to have that time.
Look, it doesn't make sense though.
You want to eliminate the blowouts or at least diminish the blowouts a little bit. Well, we've talked about this before. No, shorten the series, like shorten the series make them less game, So you can't you don't have wiggle room. You can't just be like, all right, we're losing, we'll get him next game. No, if you lose this one, like you're on the brink. Like if you do that, especially in the early on in the portion of the playoffs, you're not going to have it. Bodies as worn down as they are. If you want to do five game, five game and then throw seven game series into the conference finals in the finals, that's fine, but they don't want to do that because you're giving up that TV revenue that come with those playoff games. So like, I mean, it is what it is, but an extra like how long do you want these things to go for? I mean, playoffs are already two months to begin with. Just I don't know, man, they weren't going to win that game period. That felt like seven games and whoever had the home court was going to win the seventh game and win that series. That's what it felt like to me. And also Denver had to play extra hard to get into the postseason. There's a reason why they fired their coach with four or five games left, so they had to grind to get in and then they had that series against the Clippers, like this kind of led up to them running out of gas. And we pointed out during the course of the series there were times where they look like they were fatigued, like they looked like they were worn out, and they talked about it. But an extra day rest. I mean, like you can't just have these go on until the end of time, Like what are we doing here? Like we got to move on with our lives and focus on more important things like off season NFL stories. Why these guys are so greedy? Man, how much does the NBA want.
I don't have a problem with him feeling that way, and I don't have a problem with NBA players.
I don't have a problem with the NBA.
I like the NBA, But if you're going to play that many games, you got to be ready to play that many games, like at the beginning of the year, if you're fortunate enough to make it to the playoffs.
You know, it's a grueling, you know, grueling year.
People have gotten accustomed to, you know, load management and all those different things, Like those things didn't really exist back in the day, but nonetheless it exists now. They monitor people's you know, their minutes and stuff like that. There's a lot that goes into it. But I mean, you're a pro, that's your job, and I get it, Like, Okay, you don't want blowouts but blowouts, If a blowout is a part of it, because guy aren't rested or aren't.
You know, healthy.
The other team has the same, the same you know parameters and the same you know things. They have to overcome adverse situations, They have to overcome the same amount of time, the same differences.
So to me, it's.
All about who matches up and who pushes through, and who is led the best, and who has you know, the most direction, what's the best GPS going on? And that plays a part and being a champion. Everybody can be a champ. Now that came from a champ. He won an NBA championship, But everybody can't, can't hold it together that long, and that plays a part of it. Being able to endure endurance plays a part in being a champ. So I don't feel bad about it.
Do you guys want to hear the joker? Following the game, he was talking about what they asked him. There was a new AI one that was sent out after they let's hear it, but this was the actual joker.
This is the actual one.
Yeah.
Talking with the media afterwards.
Do you feel like this team could still win a championship as it's put together.
Now, I mean we didn't, so I hope we can't. Uh if we if we if we could win. So I don't believe in those if if stuff. So we had an opportunity, we didn't.
We didn't.
We didn't win it, so I think we can't.
My kind of guy, Yeah, we can't win one. He's great, Why not because we didn't? Okay, he's true, fair point. But yeah, there's a there's an AI one that is out lee. Are you watching the AI one from Joker? That's out where he uh.
He's wants to get it back those horses.
He cares all, but it is graduate.
Queen, Queen, go ahead and transition to something that needs to be discussed. Yeah, all right, big run of applause, A big run of applause for the Penn State Nittany Lions besting the note Name fighting Irish a unbelievable Yeah really, second half of the third, third quarter and then fourth quarter of their lacrosse notre name out twelve six Penn State score.
Yeah, the state.
They were playing.
That's not that's not how it goes No, no, no, no, no no, no, that's not how it goes off.
Eight straight goals, eight unanswered, to finish and to win, to advance to play. I believe the number one seed Cornell. So yeah, it is there, it is there, it is. We got a.
The blue band, go State got.
Yeah.
By the way, Matt Trainer, if you're listening, you can play tight end in the NFL PAL All right, Well, what I witnessed and what love State fans have watched. I mean, he's supposed what six four two forty and he's he can move, he can wiggle, he's athletic. He made one goal that was ridiculous, jumping across the crease and go on top shelf. So he that that young man can play now, so fun to watch.
We got a lot of athletes, man, and shouts out the pac Craft and the crew, Vinnie.
Morgan everybody, and.
VIGGI vugs our athletics. I don't know if people are paying attention, but if you want to go somewhere where you could compete for a national title, have the chance. You don't have to have people all up in front, all up in your in your your studio sessions.
All up in your your videos and your sessions. You know what I mean. Let's come to Penn State. Come to Penn State.
But uh, it should be acknowledged. It's been a great run for Notre Dame. They've were back to back national champs, Aliston in the quarterfinals.
Uh.
And the Kavanaugh brothers who become somewhat of a household name. Uh, they do need to get their respect. Chris Kavanaugh now finishing his career Notre Dame. Uh, pretty pretty incredible that family and obviously their impact on lacrosse. So pretty cool little deal.
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