Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Published May 26, 2025, 1:25 PM

Jason Fitz & Buck Reising are in for the guys and talk about the Knicks coming back from a 20 point deficit in Game 3 of the ECF to defeat the Pacers, NFL players participating in Olympic flag football, straight seeding in the College Football Playoffs, and much more!

This is the best of two pros and a couple Joe with Lamar Arings and rating Win and Jonas Knox on Fox Radio.

So you're telling me there's a chance, I mean, grease up the light poles. Everybody can celebrate the Knicks with the improbable comeback, just when we thought the Eastern Conference Finals were done, just when you thought the Knicks were left for dead, just when you thought the entire thing was over. Now, like an eighties wrestling match with Hulk Hogan, the arms in the air, it falls the first time it falls, the second time it's about to hit the match, the match is about ten, and instead the arms starts shaking.

Hulk Hogan gets up.

That's what the Knicks did last night, breaking the hearts of Pacers fans everywhere, both of them. And I'm sitting with one of them. He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz. It's bucking fits.

We're taking over two bros and a cuple this morning.

Buck Rising from Indiana. By the way, it should be noted a noted Pacers fan. The one time you're gonna listen to any radio show anywhere in the country today that has a Pacers fan.

And I'm just I'm just curious, Buck's what's the pulse like, Buddy, how are we feeling?

Because it sure looked with a twenty point lead in the first half, a double digit lead in the fourth quarter, and then a complete meltdown, which.

Is part of you know, the way next win games.

How we feeling, Buck, Yes, turns out we do exist.

Pacers fans were not feeling great after the nexts went down twenty at this point. Turns out all you need to do to motivate the New York basketball team is to get them down by twenty points and the.

Rest will take care of itself.

Things are, you know, I'd say tenuous at this point in time, fitsy I'm not.

I'm not like, I'm not super upset.

I mean I am upset a one oh six, one hundred loss in Indiana after going up to oh in New York and giving the next fans the choking sign and pointing at Reggie Miller and evoking all the good vibes that you could possibly have about this series from the Indiana fan perspective, to be able to close out game one or I guess game three. Technically, the first game in Indiana would have been lovely, But I'm still pretty confident about my basketball team versus this next basketball team because I just don't think they can do this too many more times.

I mean, okay, so let's think about it.

There's a couple of ways this can be taken this time, because we do know you mentioned and we were obviously looking at this series saying, okay, how does Indiana handle the Garden? You and I have talked extensively about handling the Garden not really.

Being that big of a deal. Right, So Indiana goes in there.

Fine, But there were moments in both of those games where Knicks fans were convinced.

They won it. So if you talked to a Knicks fan this morning.

All they're going to say is, man, we got unlucky the first couple of games, and we did what we do in the third game.

Everything's in to be fine.

If you talk to Basers fans as well, I mean, we won two at the Garden, and then minus a meltdown, we would have this game. I think what is wild about all of this is just to oversimplify for a second, if you'll allow me, Karl Anthony Towns is just an enigma. I don't know what to do with the fact that Karl Anthony Towns just played and flat out sucked for three quarters in this game and then all of a sudden in the fourth quarter, Karl Anthony Towns.

Is like, no, no, no, no, no.

This is this is why I I this is why everybody covets me at some point, like Karl Anthony Towns is maddening because when he plays the way he played in the fourth quarter, all of a sudden, the next look unstoppable. But you just can't bank on that game in and came out, which is in and of it self frustrating.

If I have to lose, I don't want it to be because of Karl Anthony Towns. And that's how I felt in Game one, to be honest with you, when he started hitting threes, more threes than he'd hit in the entire Celtics series combined.

Coming out the way that they didn't.

Then obviously they had the epic collapse the way that Knicks fans feared, of course, But with Kat it's such a it's such an interesting conversation, right because I don't know, I mean, do you genuinely believe that Karl Anthony Towns can be relied upon on a consistent basis to bail the New York Knicks out when they need bailing out. Because to me, I understand that he's an incredibly talented player. There's some differing in opinion as to whether this is somebody who is consistent enough at the NBA level.

Obviously, he's got all.

The physical tools and gifts that you want to be able to put himself in these positions. But like, I don't know that I trust Kat, if I'm a Knicks fan, to continually do this, or to be able to continually do this down the stretch when there is so much on the line. I just don't know that he's that kind of a player, even though he was the player that they needed last night? Is that unfair? Am I oversimplifying?

Now?

No, you're a thousand percent right, And I will just go back to the team that no longer has Cat right now that could really use a second player that's capable of doing what Kat does.

And so the best of Kat would really help Minnesota right now.

Right Like if Minnesota had the best of what Karl Anthony Towns is, they would be in a much different situation in their to.

Them, they're in. They're in hell right now. Don't do that to them.

You're looking at two teams and the conference finals built off the backs of a Paul George trade, which delights me. But the idea that you're you're gonna you're gonna tantalize Wolves fans. But that wouldn't it be nice to have Karl Anthony Towns at this point in your season?

Shame on you, really fencing that well?

I mean, first and foremost, Like, look, when you're as damaged a fan as I am, like you have no no worry in your heart about saying something that hurts fans hearts like I'm used to living in the world to hurt.

We need a big old support group with each other.

I think, the hell, what is that to start a Monday morning?

Oh my god, I'm just you know, I'm a beacon of light in a darker world. Brother, I'm a beacon of light, my friend.

Thinking trauma, I'm just well, that's that's I mean, my god, I'm sitting here talking to you on a Monday morning with my Raiders shirt on, like I just I live in trauma constantly. I My point is that Minnesota did the right thing and saying, no, he's not, he's not the him. We needed that position, right, like, he's not what we need to be able to bank on for our franchise. They were so comfortable letting him go. And obviously tou Leius Randalls is, you know, sort of their number two.

He's supposed to be their robin now. But they were so.

Comfortable letting Karl Anthony Towns walk because they understood the limitations of Karl Anthony Towns.

I think that speaks to.

Something like when you are an NBA team that has a superstar and then you've got the guy that should be able to be your robin and you're comfortable just letting him walk away.

That makes a statement.

And that's part of what we see for the Knicks because I just believe that the Knicks inherited somebody that Again, it's it's all like if we were playing two K, you feel great about it, but we're not playing two K right Like when you when you actually watch the result on the on the court, what we had last night was laying basketball for three quarters until all of a sudden it woke up, which is which is again, if you're a Knicks fan today, that's what you're smoking your cigar and climbing up to the top of the street lights with like you're.

Hare smoking a cigar.

At this point of time, let me just say, New York, let's let's let's keep the cigars unlet at this point in time, just keep your powder.

So now they can't sell now, you hypocrite. Now they can't celebrate because one of us on this show team damn it no, okay, okay, well, I mean one of us working on this show right now may have may have questioned the amount of celebrating for the New York Knickerbockers after their win over the Boston Celtics.

Brave early in the morning.

They well, you know, I'm swinging. I'm you don't.

You don't win swinging for singles, brother, when swinging for home runs. At this point, that's a that's a terrible baseball analogy because it's really not true.

But we're gonna go with it this early.

I'm just just allowing me this moment, I'm just in celebrating that level after a second round win. I may have been the one of the two of us that said you don't raise banners for second round wins. Maybe relax a little bit. You said I was a thief for joy. Now when you're losing, Like, if you're a Knicks fan and you're losing in the Eastern Conference Finals, you feel kind of stupid if you celebrated that much and all of a sudden, you're like, we ran.

In the streets, but then we lost to Indiana in the next round. I'm just saying that was the reality.

Until about ten minutes was left in that basketball game last night, Knicks fans were definitely tucking their tails.

I was in on Knicks fans until they started throwing bags of garbage at that poor Pacers fan. And since then, I've changed my tune. I don't think we've done a show since then. But the other figure that needs to be mentioned in the middle all of this is Tom Tibodeau. Because they went with a different starting lineup last night. They had backup center Mitchell Robinson in place of Josh Hart when Miles McBride got in the foul trouble. When Brunson got in a foul trouble early, that completely changed the look of their rotation. They started going to role players that really has not been a part of the Knicks bag, at least to this point. So I think Tips deserves credit in the middle of all of this too for being able to manage the moment and manage his lineup in ways that we haven't really talked about him doing to this point.

You disagree, No, I agree, But I also I'm Tony. I'm full eighties wrestling today. I'm like Jimmy Mount to the South Heart with my little megaphone in my hand, and I'm the troll in the corner. Because I will remind everybody that part of the reason that they needed to put Mitchell Robinson into the lineup was because they needed the size where Karl Anthony Towns was a liability on the defensive side of the court for how much.

For the first couple of games.

I'm just saying that part of the reason they had to make a change was because Cat was so poor at certain things. So it just supports my point that you can't rely on Cat over your troll. In the morning after, I should be very pro New York. I feel bad about it now, Buck.

I'm still trying to figure out the wrestling reference. You've just married. How the hell old are you?

I'm old enough, I mean, yeah, like I'm almost I'm about to turn forty eight, man, Like this is just what happens.

Like I grew up on.

Eighties wrestling, Like I grew out of eighties wrestling, but I grew up on eighties wrestling. So like I got a bunch of eighties wrestling toys in front of me, I got macho man facing me right now, Like it's inevitable these things are gonna happen for me.

This is what happens when you're.

Old, dude, Like I'm old enough that, like there were genuinely people that thought wrestling was real when I was a kid, Like the Internet didn't even exist, dude, Like you.

Know how old I am?

Buck I typed my papers in high school on a typewriter because we couldn't afford a computer.

Dude, Like that's how old I am.

Again, we are working through it.

Why does it always seem that when you and I do one of these radio show togethers that we're just working through what to me sounds like trauma, but you know, at least for the next st So.

Being old is trauma, now, book, that's what you're gonna say, Being old is traumatic.

It sounds terrible. It just genuinely. It sounds terrible at this point in time, but it's okay. These are emotional times for you. I understand it would have been emotional times for Knicks fans have they not been able to get this done. And that's kind of that's kind of the sense that you got from the post game press conference comments. I don't know how much of that you paid attention to, or may have watched on SportsCenter after the fact, what have you, but you know, basically talking about how it's emotional, they're playing the long game. Things can happen, things can go not your way in these moments. But I think Brunson said last night, you can easily crash out or you can respond the right way. So what are we gonna do this morning, FITZI We're gonna crash out or we're gonna respond the correct way, because I feel like we need to get our act together.

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Jason Fitz a little bit of flag football talk here and hear me out flag football as it relates to NFL fans, because we all saw the news last week the NFL approved the process of involving football players NFL players in the Olympics with flag football, and I keep hearing people roll their eyes to it, and I just want to explain buck a little bit of why this is such a key moment for the league because we were getting ready for Inside Coverage, one of the NFL shows I host for Yahu Sports, and our insider Charles Robinson, when we were doing our production meetings, said well, you know what this is all about, right, and the rest of us were like, no, no, please go on tell us. So we started this deep dive explanation that I frankly had never thought of about why the league for years has been looking at the particularly the success that basketball the NBA has had in places like China, and one of the advance's advantages that the NBA has in China is all you need is a ball in a hoop. So as long as you have a ball in hoop, you can play. Part of the globalization of soccer has always been all you need is field in the ball.

Well you can't do that in the NFL.

There's so many rules and so much to explain and so much that goes into it. It's hard for new places to pick it up. And for years they've been trying to figure out how to grow flag football because specifically it's the easiest way to make sure that all you need is a ball in a field. So they look at this and they say, Okay, there's monetizing opportunities here, like we need to find a way to grow internationally above and beyond the series of international games, and they look at flag football as a huge way to do this. And then the players are looking around and they're looking specifically at the growth in marketing for somebody like Kobe when he started to go over to China and have success, and what do they get to do over there. Well, if you're a NFL player playing in flag football and you're Nike athlete, right when we hit the Olympics in a couple of years, Nike's gonna trot.

Those athletes all over the world during the summer. They're gonna go everywhere, and they're gonna play without helmets on, which is rare.

So like, if you're a Titans fan, and you're watching cam Ward, you're really watching the side of his head.

You're seeing a.

Helmet, right, Like it is tougher for football players to be recognizable on the street because so many of them are known for the helmets that they wear.

This is your opportunity to suddenly be trodden all over the world.

Make a ton of marketing money out of your shoe deal because your shoe company's sending you everywhere, while the league is growing its sport in front of people that otherwise may not be willing to pick it up. And it's the introduce, it's the gateway drug that gets you into football. So when you start thinking about the money and what it means for the NFL, I think what we have to understand. NFL fans have to understand this game is not for you. It's not it's not being geared to it Like, the NFL doesn't care if NFL fans like flag football. The NFL needs people in China and Egypt and Asia and and all of these places that right now aren't flocking to the sport. They want them to fall in love with flag football is a gateway drug that gets them into the NFL. As the International Series grows, and that's why when you follow the dollars and cents, you understand that this is a huge initiative for the league.

To your point, the NFL already has the NFL fan base.

This is kind of the thing.

And I don't know if we are going to get to this today, FITZI, or if this is a topic of discussion for another day. But the changes that are happening happening in collegiate athletics and most specifically college football right where college football fans are up in arms about what they consider to be I think, on a lot of cases, certainly in this part of the country in Tennessee where I'm at, almost a direct attack on the traditions of college football and kind of the ethos of what the sport is, because it's being taken over by essentially the television networks as they try and squeeze every last dollar, last viewership opportunity out of America's second most popular sport by not completely transforming it into an NFL like model, but trending more in that direction than college football fans are certainly comfortable with it. But it's not about college football fans, because college football fans are already there. They're trying to figure out how much further they can expand the footprint of the college game to make sure that they can, to your.

Point, grab every last dollar and cents that's in front of them.

That way, the NFL has always been the king of this, Roger Goodell most recently just getting another contract extension, because I don't think any person is more single handedly responsible for transforming the fortunes.

Of a league than Roger Goodell is.

With the NFL, the opportunities that they've been able to take, the way that they have pushed this globalization of the game, in the ways that they're still finding that they're still finding other opportunities to further globalize the game. It's all a part of the grand plan, right, And at the end of the day, the answer to all of your questions is always money. The only I mean, what's the only real drawback of the flag football thing?

Can you? Can you tell me?

Because there's only one thing that immediately comes to my mind injury?

Right, the only the only drawback in my mind is the potential for catastrophic injury. But when pressed, our insiders have talked to people around the league, and there there are two different mindsets on this.

Let me be clear.

Coaches and gms want nothing to do with it. They want their players to have nothing to do with this. The guys that sit in the owner suites look at all of the players and the risk of injury as collateral damage. If there's a chance that a superstar player goes down with an injury in the Olympics, but it grows their business by billions of dollars, which they think international growth can do.

Man owners don't care. They're willing to take that risk.

So the one risk that we as fans are sitting here just obsessed about, Like, yeah, I'm the first to admit that as a Raiders fan, I would love for none of my favorite team's players to make the Olympic squad. And I do think that's one portion of this that we have to remember, Like all these players talking about wanting to play, how are they going to feel when they have to actually go out there and try out for this team?

And like who's going to be selected and how are they going to be selected?

Like are players going to be willing to take the ego hit that comes with the possibility they don't get selected? Like all of these things, but above and beyond that, if your favorite player is in the Olympics, any God forbid gets hurt. The Jerry Jones of the world have made it clear behind closed doors that they're comfortable with that risk if it means that suddenly they can sign a new TV contract in China worth billions of dollars, you know, And I.

Do wonder just to push back slightly on what you're saying about coaches and general managers, because FITZI and maybe it's just talking to coaches locally down here and obviously the Titans of the team that I've covered my entire career as a reporter, and the NFL. You pick up people throughout the court. More time you spend in the league, the more people you get to know. People start to spread out, They go to other places, they coach in other spots and things like that. You try to keep connections that way. But when you talk to coaches about that, there's almost and it may be begrudging, it may be more begrudging for some than it is for others, but there's almost an understanding of it is very difficult, especially in the NFL, which is supposed to be successfully built for parody, and I think in a lot of ways is even though the NBA is getting ready to give us a seventh different champion year over year, in the NFL, it's really just you're talking about Kansas City, You're talking about Philadelphia. Before that, you were talking about the Patriots and things like that. There seems to be more runs of dominance in the NFL than there is at a championship level than there has been just about every other major sport that coaches will acknowledge, there is something singular to be able to win a gold medal for your country. This is to kind of get back to the Knicks by you know, a little bit of a different kind of a conversation. This is Carmelo Anthony in the Olympics, right. Carmelo Anthony is one of the greatest basketball players in US say basketball history. He is one of our greatest champions when it comes to playing in international competition. He mellow did more good for himself and for I just I just general goodwill around the sport by being such a willing participant in USA basketball despite not having championship success in the NBA the NFL, I think coaches are at least willing to acknowledge there is something so singular about competing for your country that way, about the experiences that it brings. Yes there is growth, Yes there is financial opportunity. Those things will always be a part of the conversation because it is what drives all of this stuff, right. But I think that more coaches than you might then you might realize, are okay with the idea of it's really really hard to do what we're trying to do here at the NFL level. If you can give yourself the opportunity to go to go metal for your country, that maybe it's not as important to the NFL coach because at the end of the day, they're keeping their job based on their ability or inability to win Super Bowls in the National Football League. But coaches will also acknowledge that the competitors at the highest level, there's just there's not anything else like this, and this is the first time that NFL football players have really been presented with an opportunity like this.

To that end, that's part of the reason.

You know, again, I'll go back to Charles Robinson at Yahoo Sports talked a little bit to some people in the league that seem to think, oh, players aren't going to really want to go through this process. But when you talk to people around the players' union, they'll tell you exactly what.

You just said. Fifty three players every year plus but at least fifty three players walk with the Super Bowl ring every year no matter what.

Right, You've got about a dozen players total that will get a Olympic medal every four years. And then when you start to talk about some of the legacy conversation in twenty years, it's not just going to be well, how many Super Bowls Holmes win.

It's like, well, Mahomes won three.

Super Bowls, five Super Bowls, and he also won three gold medals.

Like that's all very real for these players.

And so yeah, I mean it's a huge and look, one of the coolest experiences I've ever had. Like when I was with the band, we had the song for Team USA in twenty sixteen, so we got to go to Rio and we spent a couple of weeks out there and like did the Today Show and all that stuff, all the NBC shows while we were out there, but we got to perform at the Team USA house and just watching the Olympians that were coming in with their medals after they won them, because once you're done with the Olympics, for a lot of the guys, you just get to hang out.

Guys and girls you just couldn't hang out.

So they were coming in with their gold and silver medals and watching everybody myself included, flock to just see it, to hold it, like it's such a special and rare thing to get the opportunity to even be around. And then you think about what that means, Like baseball players have been dealing with this for years, Like if you're a baseball player lucky enough to represent your country and then you go out and win a medal, you come back into the locker room man like that, there's power to that.

So I one hundred percent.

For players, it's such a huge incentive, Like it's a huge incentive for the moment to have the metal. It's a huge incentive for the moment to be all over the world, especially this first one, you know, the Olympics in La. You just think about all of these different pieces. Of course, if you're a player, in my mind, like it's simple, you want to play, you want something to do with this. Now, flag football players, it should be noted, are pushing back and the most air quotes, the most famous flight football player, a quarterback that has already told everybody he's better than Mahomes has made a clear look.

At flag football.

At flag football, make sure you make sure you give him the appropriate contract. I mean, he's not saying that he's a better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes, but.

He is saying he is a better quarterback in flag football, and it's a different game, and his football IQ understands that different game. Okay, I couldn't roll my eyes any harder to this. Are we going to presume that the IQ required for flag football is so outside the nomenclature of what is required to play in the NFL that Patrick Mahomes can't figure it out? Like Patrick Mahomes is gonna look at the tape on flag football and be like, oh no, man, this I don't know. This guy over here that's like five nine with tiny baby hands that's throwing the football.

It looks it looks.

Difficult in the footage and throwing the throwing the football, like that guy is suddenly gonna outperform more Like I hope it'd be awesome if we got into trials and all of a sudden, all these NFL players went in there and tried out and got their asses kicked by flag football guys.

Like good glory be to God. Good on. I'm like, go get your medal and become a superstar.

But I really have just experience watching flag football.

Hey, you don't know me and my God come out like my my football.

Got Okay, that's fine.

I will not pass judgment at this particular time, though, I am I am skeptical.

I'm skeptical.

So the quarterback, the aforementioned flag football quarterback that you're referencing, his name is Darryl Ducett. They call him Whosh all right, And he gave an interview recently to the Washington Post upon the news that the NFL unanimously approved the opportunity for NFL players to participate in the upcoming Olympics in the flag football competition. And this is the quote, the flag guys deserve their opportunity.

That's all we want.

We felt like we worked hard to get the sport to where it's at, and when the NFL guy spoke about it, it was like we were getting kicked to the side. I felt like I was the guy who could speak out for my peers, for my brothers that's been working hard to get to this level, for us to not be forgotten. So not to tug at your heartstrings any more. Fancy, given the way that you started this radio show basically fans plaining to everybody that was in, was was in within the sound of your voice this morning, about how they should celebrate their team and experience their sports joy.

He du set is going to be such low hanging fruit here.

He's going to be an possibly easy target for people like you and I to tee off on because of course we think that the flag football players should be pushed aside for superior athletes if that's what gives our country the best opportunity to win the gold medal. It's not about you know, and I don't want to sit here and discount what he's saying, because I do think there's truth in that. To get flag football to a point where it is now in an Olympic sport, that means something.

These guys have.

These guys are playing it purely for the love of their sport, right. It's not about the financial gain that comes with it, although I'm sure that there's more financial incentive than you or I may actually realize, but at the end of the day, the vast majority of the public is not going.

To care about that.

This person knows that and is still putting his neck out there anyway to be like, Yeah, I don't care what you say about me. I feel a certain type of way about this. I feel like we deserve our opportunity, and I think he's right. And if he gets beaten out by the people who are better than this, are better at this, who are physically to him, and it just takes a little bit of a learning curve, that's okay too.

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The news this week came out that college football is going to get rid of any of the automatic seeding advantages you saw from the college football playoffs. So, for example, the highest ranked group of five team is still guaranteed a playoff spot, but now they will be in the playoffs based on wherever their ranking is. So this year, if the highest ranked group of five team is let's say I don't know U and olv and their ranked number twenty three. They will not suddenly find themselves in a top four seed with the first round by none of.

That advantage still exists.

So while they will get into the playoffs, the seeding the playoffs will be done in a way that matches the rankings of the teams, which I think is important. But Buck, look, I think this was a smart change. It all makes sense. You watched Indiana football last year sort of take the world by storm, but then we watch some of these non traditional teams get their butts kicked in the playoffs. To me, the one thing that really stands out though, is like, at some point, if your college football just rip the band aid off whatever changes you got, because college football fans hate any change that ever comes through the door, so it doesn't matter what it is. And I'm so tired of this very false narrative that NIL is killing that change, the playoff expansion and NIL and conference expansion is all killing college football. It's like, well, I don't know, the ratings are pretty spectacular, and the money being made by everybody's pretty spectacular, and people are getting rich and everybody's still going together.

I don't think the system's broken.

I just think that college football fans are traditionalists, kind of like baseball fans, and they hate any change through their sport. So to me, I would just take a pause on everything. I'd look at it and say, what do we want the playoffs to be? How do we want it to be? I'd rip the whole thing apart and make guy ginormous changes right now, all at once, just in a way that it's like, hey, we've ripped a partner sport, but here's the new version of it.

Fall in love with it or don't? We don't care.

Why do you think that hasn't happened yet?

Genuinely, because honestly, I think everybody is scrambling to figure out the wise, the house and the rights, and because nobody has been sitting here thinking forward thinking like everything that's happening to the NCAA right now is their own fault. Nil is the is their own fault. They never managed any of these situations when they had the opportunity to, so now all of a sudden they're scrambling to try and figure out how to do it, and piece by piece is like, well that's a good idea, it's better than what we have so let's just do that.

I don't know that you can recover that way.

You can't.

And that's that's been the biggest issue, that they are in danger of taking advantage of one of the most loyal audiences in any sport whatsoever.

Fitsy.

It's not just because you you are obviously familiar with the SEC country and I live in Nashville, Tennessee, which is right in the heart of SEC country, and we both understand that college football in the Southeast is try. It's an entirely different It's as close to I think European soccer and the passion that the fans have as anything that we have in American sports.

Right.

It is singular that way is it is sacred, that way, it is passed down, It is in people's blood. And they are at risk because they are so reactive as opposed to being proactive in the way that they're governing their sport. And really it's collegiate athletics as whole as a whole, but we understand that for the purposes of revenue generation, college football is always going to be king there and that is the thing that is going to drive the change first and foremost, and everything else just has to go along. In the wake of college football, you have conference commissioners taking matters into their own hands because the NCAA can't be trusted to govern their own sport as the foremost governing body, and I say foremost in air quotes which with as much sarcasm as humanly possible, they have have been thoroughly and utterly inept. And I know that again, it is the easiest version of the conversation to say, well, the NCAA sucks, and they've wrecked this for all of us, and they've let the corporations and the television networks come in here and ravage the thing that makes the most sense, because the question that they are not asking themselves at the end of the day fitsie, is is this good for the sport? That's not the job of the television networks to consider, right, It's not their job to consider what is in the best interest in the health and the future viability of this sport. There is supposed to be a body that is tasked with overseeing that, with governing that, with policing that, with protecting that. It sure as hell not respectfully, Fox and ESPN and everybody else. That's bidding for live rights. Their job is to do the best thing possible for the network, for the shareholders, for all the people that are financially invested in this thing. But it is coming at the expense of the sport. And how we go about trying to figure out the fact that we're just putting a placeholder in on this straight seating model because this isn't gonna matter next year, it's going to be a sixteen team playoff. This is just kind of like a one year all right, We'll see how it goes f around and find out type of situation, and it may be better, it may ultimately end up benefiting. I don't know if you're going to ever eliminate there's no perfect formula to eliminate blowouts in the postseason. I mean, hell, we're getting ready to talk about or I mean, we have talked about today a series between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Oklahoma City Thunder that was completely non competitive in game three, and we're talking about conference finals, like at the highest of highs. College football has protected itself pretty well against that. But you're I mean, the SMUs of the world and Indiana is there's always going to be an SMU in Indiana in this model of the college football playoffs. In fact, they're careering environment an environment for more of those things to happen and just make the games relevant later into the season and to get more juice at a having, you know, college football playoff games on campuses. But if there was somebody with the foresight to do exactly what you're talking about.

It would have been done.

They've left this entire thing open to what they've chalked up to the exploratory period. That exploratory period since the Supreme Court voted that college sports in the previous model was actually unconstitutional, We're going on four and five years of an exploratory period of people just effing around and trying to figure out and they've done so, I wouldn't say poorly, because it still makes money, it's still rates, it's still football.

At the end of the day.

But again, I am genuinely concerned fits that this is the one sport more than any other, that is as at risk of taking advantage of its fan base goodwill as any that we're talking about purely for the sake of the dollar

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