Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Published Jun 18, 2025, 1:15 PM

Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Florida Panthers repeat against the Oilers as Stanley Cup Champions. The entirety of the WNBA continues to hate and beat up on their biggest star, Caitlin Clark. The Old P, Petros Papadakis paints a picture from Shohei Ohtani’s return to the mound, how painful the College Football offseason has become to cover and much more!

This is the best of two pros and a couple. Joe with Lamar airings and rating win and Jonas Knox on Radio.

Congratulations, I mean, we are happy but also disappointed at the same time. Bang, we are happy but disappointed all at the same time because, uh, you know, the Florida Panthers did win the Stanley Cup again. They become back to back Stanley Cup champions last year into this year, and we've been talking about that on this show because last year into this year we've been inundated with Florida Panthers talk by two people of this show, Brady Quinn and Pete Prisco. They are blowhard Panthers fans. I was rooting for the Edmonton Oilers. I was willing to.

Call it.

Off.

Yeah, which I don't even care. I mean, do I care?

Don't care less?

Yeah, I mean listen, a good the Florida Panthers and good for their fan base.

Great for sports, Yeah, it's great for sports fans.

Yeah.

You know, I got a call today, right, I gotta do a call with with iHeart and one of the questions.

Right right, what's up about Heart?

One of the questions that they asked me is why does the NFL hold people captive, you know, so well all year, and you know, I start thinking about it, and it's like kind of like because it's while people will say they care about other sports, they care about football more. Yes, and in America at least, and you could be sitting in your car and saying, I'm turning it off because it's LeVar kick a rock. It's all right, I see the numbers.

Oh people people will you know, people if.

They're if they are blowhard, as you would say, hockey fan, which is great. Be a hockey fan, you know, it's great to be a hockey fan. If you're a blow hard baseball fan, be a baseball fan, it's great. You know, any other sport that's great. But just understand the butter that goes on our bread in the morning, even with some jelly on the side if you want, or some ntella if you want to put some na tella on there, whatever it is that we're putting on this bread over here, it's football. The ingredient, the main ingredient that's going into and onto that.

Bread is football.

So while I like the fact that, hey, we're gonna touch on some of these things, you know, the Florida Panthers. Congratulations, you're going to hold Lord Stanley and you held them in your hands yesterday. You'll drink out of that now, I get it. But come on, man, we'll talk about this for two minutes and then we're going to transition into what butters the bread, which is we're gonna talk something else.

Hey.

By the way, you know what my mom used to do when I was a kid, what she used to take toast. She would butter the toast and then put a little bit of cinnamon on top of it. So you'd have little cinnamon toast with a little butter added in there. It's like, thank you, Reverend. I agree.

I add a little milk to it. You know, you got cinnamon toes crunch.

Yeah, but you know, there you go. I mean it's the ninety nine cent store version of that.

I bet you it was good though, Oh fantastic. I know no better. So it was like moms make everything better, man. Yeah, she she had the Jonas.

Yeah what Mama Jonas? I would say this, uh something because to your point, and it is valid that the NFL is king uh And for people that don't like that, I don't know what to tell you is what it is, brother.

And the rules. I just live it.

And by the way, the gap is widening, it is widening. It is the NFL really is. It's college football in second and then everybody else is trying to find find the rhythm and find their ground elsewhere, which is fine.

It wasn't an.

Which which is fine. But one thing that should be pointed out from the Florida Panthers win last night was oke comments postgame of Matthew Kachuck, who was a little banged up apparently, but he did detail it afterwards on the ice. Let's take a listen. Do you think the average fan has any idea what you went through? And what did you go through?

I tore my ad octor off the bone, and I had some hernia thing and all on the same side, and I wanted to throw in the towel a bunch of times.

I'm sure I got to thank.

A lot of people, if I mean for getting me healthy enough.

Been sure I wasn't the easiest.

To deal with.

I mean, if fiance did a great drop of the house on days er, I probably wasn't in the best mood.

Coming to the rank the trainers. Maybe when I.

Wasn't in the best mood when I was in pain, and I just owed him so much.

The doctors.

I love that about hockey.

It was my back.

I love that about hockey. Though I do like the spinal I do like the idea that hockey goes. Yeah, listen, it's upper body or lower body. They're not going to identify specifically where it is until you find out afterwards. No, just you know, a couple of herdias. Maybe it was my spleen. It was ruptured, you know, no issues.

Meanwhile, we're like, Ah, Haliburton was a little wounded.

He was a little hobbled.

By the way. It also was a little difficult for me to sympathize with Matthew couldchuck considering what we've seen courtesy of our producer lead to Lap, who sent over a video earlier in the week of a woman with no legs twerking on the side of a boat. So if she could.

Twork, nicknamed her the spinner.

Look like, like, if if that woman with no legs could shake her ass on the side of a boat's god, imagine imagine getting a lap dance from your carry on luggage. That's what we're talking about.

Here.

Okay. So when I see that and then you see Matthew ka Chuck, it's like, all right, it's all relative. Yeah, I mean listen, you know, there's just different degrees of this stuff. Now we did get it was my back, Thank you, Mike.

It was my back. It was spot it broke my back.

Final By the way, do you think do.

You think do you think can we pull the Mike Tyson where he goes off on that guy in the crowd. I think it was when he got in that fight with Lennox Lewis.

Well, we can't, we can't play that. You'd have to you have to a lot of the things that they're saying.

You couldn't last two minutes in my world. Oh my god.

Uh yeah.

I think once Mike Tyson told somebody he wanted to eat his children, the sympathy for him also went out the door as well too. I feeling that, uh you know, probably crossed the line when it comes to other injury news. Leavarn I were throwing.

Children rip hot out hot.

That sounds like Joe Pah, Yeah right, that's not New York.

They all, hey, bro, they all got that similar little deal. So tyree, why.

Would you pack, Mike, Okay, So other injury news. Uh, we're just going to get this stuff out of the way early on here, tyrese Aliburton. He's dealing with the Calves train. He's supposed to have an MRI. They're going to determine the severity of it. He is planning to play game six.

But when is game six? Is it tonight?

I think it's when is it November? When are they doing game again?

Yeah? I think it's Sunday? Yeah, they move it to Sunday.

Is that also a Black Friday game? We get confirmation on how the end?

What do you mean, bro? Hey, you're right? Why you got to go there?

Right?

You are right?

Came out of nowhere.

I was just saying, it's, you know, way off in the distance.

Yeah.

That didn't. Yeah that didn't. Yeah that didn't come out.

Exactly what Pascal was dealing with. A lower injury.

Yeah, I mean, listen, the NBA's butchered their scheduling. They butchered their scheduling so much so that they can't even keep their analysts interest interested enough in the game to be able to put down Solitaire for ten minutes, to be able to watch a finals game, but he is from all accounts, the calf strain takes weeks to really heal. He's going to be nowhere close to one hundred percent. And you and I both got the feeling following Game five yesterday on the show.

Yeah, it's just like tomorrow, tomorrow ends, ends the NBA season. Yeah, and then we can finally get that out of the way. You know, NHL just finished, NHL just finished up.

Get it out of there.

NBA will finish up tomorrow, get them out of there. Baseball will hold us, hold us over until til we get the training camp, you know, not to the season. It's a training camp. Yeah, you know, we're like seventy some days away, seventy some odd days away from getting to some real games. Like I know for Penn State that it's like what like, uh, I'll tell you, hold on, give me one second here, I will tell you exactly when to expect the game. Seventy three days, nine hours, fifty four minutes, eighteen seconds in counting. There you go.

And by the way, on the clock, baby.

July thirty, first, July thirty, first Hall of Fame game. Let's go, Yeah, Lions Chargers, let's go. I mean And for those of you that want to dismiss that game and say, well, it's just a Hall of Fame game, what does that game?

That's gonna be a fun game?

I got news for you.

Some of the garbage you guys watch, all right, you should sit down and shut your mouths okay, because you watch some garbage ass games and other sports all the time, and we have to be force fed why we should care about it. The Hall of Fame game will get full coverage on this show, I can assure you. July thirty, first coming up between the Bolts and the Lions.

Oh more ball and Campbell. Come on, man, backups is them backups are going to thump?

Oh yeah, it's the Meathead Bowl.

They going thump. Yeah. Now that's a that's a perfect matchup for first game. Because them babies out there, them young men, I can't say babies, but them young men, they're going they're going thump.

Yeah.

They're not even gonna hand them a gatorade during breaks. They're just gonna hand him like a piece of ribbi. So here you go, roll. Yeah, this is this is what we're doing. Pittsburgh st Yeah, little Pittsburgh style for the Hall of fame game there. But that is the the update. We bid farewell to the Stanley Cup and the NHL Playoffs, and then we will bid farewell to the NBA playoffs coming up as soon as Tyrese Haliburton is nowhere close to one hundred percent and the Indiana Pacers are eliminated. Would have been fun for seven games, just not gonna happen.

In the NBA.

For the sake of conversation, it would be interesting if Indiana forced a Game seven for the for the sake of conversation, this is sports talk radio. It would be interesting if the Pacers came out, found a way to win this upcoming game and and force this thing into a game seven.

But isn't are we delaying the inevitable because they get to a game seven and they're probably gonna get mutilated.

But well, just tell us, I feel like I want to agree with you, but doesn't doesn't it give you maybe a ray of hope, just maybe one, Maybe not a whole bunch of rays, but maybe one ray of hope that Game seven will deliver a blockbuster hit that leads to who's being crowned the NBA champion this year? That mean best case scenario playing out if we're being serious and being sports talk radio hosts and we're talking sports outside of football. I think it would be interesting if the Pacers, knowing that Halliburton is banged up a little bit, knowing that they're up against all odds to beat a loaded, stacked OKAC Thunder team with the MVP of the league, and that's ga on there having an MVP series. Wouldn't it be interesting if I'm the captain of the ship now led the Indiana Pacers into a game seven?

Now, why do you you've made reference of that Pascal siakam with the I'm the captain now? What is what are you getting out there?

When?

What's that movie called? He starred in a movie? Go look up his his uh his credits, Like you get on that what is it? I am d or something like that? What is it called?

Le uh?

Why is the bar keeper calling Pascal? You mean Captain Phillips.

With Captain Phillips.

Pascal Siak was in that movie.

Yes, really, that's he made the line I'm the captain now, Yeah, that was I'm right there. That's him start in the movie.

It's really gained weight.

Lou Cutty short I'm the cuptain.

Now, well, that's an old movie. It's a very old movie. He was, he was a little lighter back then. Night he's a he's a grown man now. He found his way in basketball. He was lighter back then, no kidding, not.

Not lighter complected, but lighter in weight.

Hey, you know, weren't you light? Weren't you lighter in weight? Years and years? That's like ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. How old is that movie, Lee Captain Phillips.

Yeah, so, by the way, I.

Never saw twenty eleven.

There you go.

Really it's that old bro he was.

He was a young fellow back then.

Man, was it twenty eleven?

Thirteen?

Twenty thirteen is when it was?

Okay, two years off anyway, it's still it's right there.

I never saw a young man. I never saw that movie. It looked like it sucked.

But the that that it was based off it was two thousand and nine. There you go.

Pirates, Yeah, he played a well listen, and wouldn't it be great if he played a pirate in these NBA finals? It would be great because that's not their ship. It's not their ship, Chip, ship Chip, but they could go take it if that man were to lead the Indiana Pacers to a championship and said when he got m VP of the series, I am the captain of this championship.

By the way, did Pascal Siakam win an Oscar for that role?

Was not?

I'm almost positive he did. Are you serious, Captain Phillips? The uh he didn't win an Oscar for that league. You're supposed to be some oscars honk here, so you're always gassing up the academy. I believe, I believe that actor did get best supporting.

Well not, I don't think it he won best supporting, but uh, standby and his name.

Is Pascal.

Correct.

Guy's got a hell of a up shot.

Who knew?

Damn?

He gets slashed it around place allified deepense days.

They weren't shooting. He's doing layup drills.

On boat.

Layups, jumpers.

He was up though, he was up for it.

It was so he lost about that man, So he lost in six games there too, interesting runner up.

Don't be a runner up this time past. Now you gotta get it.

You are a class act.

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While Hey man.

What man? Hey, bruh, they after Caitlyn Clark.

Man, it's wild.

They gotta let her live, brou they trying to assassin? Yeah, did you see uh y'all male ticket, y'all out there trying to kill her?

Ye had to get it.

Did you see the uh?

Yes?

This feels like a reckless accusation by h Brian wrote in on Twitter and said, this bleep Jonas was in the fetal position, lashing out with his fellow bleeps, trying to defend his goat athlete Kate Clark against her players picking on her. Now, part of that is accurate, and the part that's accurate is it does feel like a concerted effort by the at least a large portion of the w NBA to go out of their way to make life hell for their meal ticket. I just don't get it. I don't understand. I do not understand how they're they're not looking at her and saying, hey, if she's bringing all of this to our league and it's going to mean more money for all of us, and it's gonna be better for everybody involved. Why are we trying to get rid of it?

If I'm Caitlyn Clark, I'm hiring a dope ass lawyer and I'm going to sue and try to own the w NBA, and then I'm retiring. Yeah, then I'm retiring because, honestly, at some point, the brutality on that young lady, it's not okay. It's not okay, man, It's just it's not It's a sport. Listen, you might be a little jealous of her athletic ability, you know, I get it. I mean there's a lot that goes into the physicality of playing at the pro level. She knows how to dish it out. That's once that should be stated. She does know how to dish out some physicality as well. But the assertive effort going towards her Jonas is it's to me, it's it's to the point now where it's going over the line.

I don't think it's a I've heard some people throw out, well, it's a race issue. I don't think it is. I just think it's it's jealousy. I think it's pettiness. I don't think that it's just a black and white thing. Cedric Maxwell tells this story about when Larry Bird came to training camp the first time with the Celtics, that he was looking at him, going, oh, this is going to be easy work, and then after the first practice he was like, never mind, it just you could you just realized all birds that good. It didn't matter what color he was, He's just that good.

That was more.

I felt like maybe a little bit of that early on in his career. This just feels like pettiness. It feels like jealousy, and it feels like people that.

Are so.

Narrow minded in their apro coach and view of their league and also what it could do for their career, like this, this could be great for everybody's career involved all the other opportunities that could that could come along with it. And I brought this up before. I think it was Charles Barkley was in an interview and he said when Magic Johnson signed that big contract he got, the Sixers players were high fiving in the locker room. They weren't upset, they were happy about it because they looked at that and said, well, if he's getting that kind of money, that's great for all of us, like like that, that's good for everybody involved. And instead in the w n b A, all they're doing is trying to diminish it, like they're just trying, they're trying to stop it before it can really get going.

I don't get it.

I don't understand everybody. Everybody's taking shots at her. By the way, it's not a it's not a race thing, it's not a black white thing. It's you know, it's a Caitlin Clark thing. And and and with that being said, and listen, I don't watch the WNBA like that. I look for the headlines, I look at the highlights, and I could one hundred percent take a lot of things out of context. So I'm not going to go that deep into it. Just at a surface level, I will say, these these women hate Caitlyn Clark. They and you could say, all right, well you get on the floor and it's going to be a physical game, get it. It's the pros. So at that level, it is physical, get it. But the physicality against Caitlyn Clark in the way that it's being executed, in the things that I'm seeing, it is one hundred percent of Caitlyn Clark. Thing is something about Caitlyn Clark, even more so, I think, even more so than her game, Because her game is serious, she still ends up getting hers in the games and looking at the stat lines, she's still she's still thriving. But there's something more to it. Now, whatever that is, I don't know, and I'm I don't pretend to know, but there's something more to it. Jonas as to why these girls are so inflamed by Caitlyn Clark, I don't get it. I don't know.

Like, is Caitlyn Clark the fastest ballplayer?

No?

Is she the tallest ballplayer?

No?

Is she the prettiest ballplayer?

No? Is she the is she? She might? Well?

The only category that she stands the top of is most talented and most most popular. Like that is where she's at the top of the mountain. And to me and listen, you can say, damn, But I mean, I ain't trying to throw shade, but there are I mean, there are probably more than a ton of girls in a WNBA that look better than Kitlyn Clark. Just esthetically speaking, I'm just you know, I'm just always wanting to try to speak my truth. But listen. I just I think at some point though, there has to be like the whole Angel Reese Kitlyn Clark thing. I don't see it as being a Magic Bird thing, because Magic.

And Bird really were peers.

They really were like it really was, they were that good. I think that. I think that they're both polarizing figures, but Caitlyn Clark is for real, the real deal in terms of a game changer as a player. I don't, you know, Angel Reese. I get it, she's broken records, she's done some pretty good things when she was a rookie, But I just don't see them being peers in terms of the impact that that they're having. And that could be ignorance. I don't And if I get called out on that, that's okay, that could be ignorance. But I just don't see this as if, if if the whole ultimate goal is that Caitlyn Clark has taken the league by storm, you want to leverage Caitlyn Clark, but to be able to make a villain and a hero scenario where you have these adversaries, these these arch enemies that are driving the league, I don't think that's Angel Reese, And so to me, there are other girls in the league, and I get that the whole idea of them coming out in the draft together, they compete it at a high level in college. I mean, those girls had really dope teammates. LSU was a dope basketball team. Jonas Iowa was a dope basketball team. But nonetheless, there is no mistaking that the differences is LSU was a team that was really good.

Iowa was a team that was really good.

But Caitlyn Clark was easily the catalysts of why that team was really good.

I actually watched back then.

But I think this is a miss if they continued to allow this and they don't put a stop to this some way, somehow, which I don't know how they do it, But if they don't put a stop to this and get a get a hold of these these girls doing what they're doing to her, she's going to get hurt bad for real. And that ain't good.

That was legitimate contact last night where she got clawed in the face and then somebody just came't.

Got blondsided, which, by the way, while we're talking, you said, is this a racial thing?

At the beginning of the deal, those were two white girls.

That I don't even think it was like different shades of white. I think they were both like right around the same tint. To be honest with you, as somebody who's pale, I can speak on that. I'll speak down.

Yeah. I said light skin and dark skin in the first first hour, so with with Pascal and Haliburton, so you know.

Yeah, but I'm with you, man. I don't understand how there's not more of an uproar or people within the w NBA offices, even if they even have offices. Maybe they just have a couple of cubicles somewhere. Whatever they got, get together and figure out a way to cut the crap. You've got something in your hands that can make everybody else greater, uh wealthier, bring more eyeballs to the to the league, like this is your golden goose, so to speak. And instead all they're trying to do is is diminish it, hurt her, foul her, throw her off her game. Like if you saw the ratings dip that it took when she was out of games, and then she comes back. You've seen the attendance. You've seen the attendance in w NBA arenas everywhere, go up. It's not a coincidence, man, and there's and there's nothing wrong with it.

You know, listening to you Jonas, you know what it gives me? Honestly, dang am I going to do this? This gives me Michael Jordan, do you remember what they was doing to Mike early on.

In his career. They were beating his ass, I mean beating him down.

Like to this this degree, which is crazy because they I mean maybe not quite as as bad with Caitlyn Clark, because they were getting at Mike, and Mike had to go into the weight room. Mike had to start working out and lifting weights and getting stronger to be able to deal with you know, the amount of brutality against I think the comparable here, I do believe, and I do declare today at seven thirteen am in State College, Pennsylvania at the last building that this is. Caitlin Clark is a more comparable figure in terms of where she is in what she represents. It is not a comp to make it a Magic and Bird comparison. It's a Michael Jordan comparison. Because you got a guy that came in and was able to capture everybody's imagination. He had everybody on the edge of their seats. What was he going to do next? And you know what, the Detroit Pistons they beat him up. The Boston Celtics, they beat him up. These teams beat him up. And that's what Caitlyn Clark is getting right now. She came in, She has people on the edges of their seat. She is a polarizing figure. You're looking at someone who is making history in the in the present moment. You may never you haven't seen a Caitlyn Clark to this point, and there's a strong possibility you may never see another Caitlyn Clark.

Ever.

Again, you're seeing the beginnings of the same type of meteoric rise that Michael Jordan had when he was in the younger days of his career. That to me, for women's basketball, the better comp is that Caitlyn Clark has the Michael Jordan aura. And yeah, that's what this is.

And you know it's even what makes it even worse to that point as well, is that when Michael Jordan first came in and he was being there was rough house constantly, and they were hurting him and he was getting injured and he had to go to the weight room and all that. The NBA was healthy, like you still had stars there. It was a healthy product. It was entertaining, it was interesting. You had the Lakers and the Celtics and the Pistons and all these great teams, the Sixers, all these great teams. The WNBA had nothing like this.

This was it.

You got it. It's right here. And their Clawner in the face and blindsidener. I just the whole thing is puzzling to me. I really do not understand that level of pettiness and jealousy. I don't get it. I just don't get it.

But it's interesting.

But it makes for the story because that is more of the story than the w NBA itself, which is that's even more interesting, is that you have to drive the storylines.

Again.

I sit in in the first hour and I'll say it again, and now we're too. I love football. I love the demographic, you know, I love I love the entertainment aspect of it. I love the experience of what football creates in media, not just in the game itself, but what it creates in terms of coverage and conversation in media. I don't have give me like for all the people out there that may be judging.

Us on like.

Looking at it from this this perspective, give me a better storyline for the w NBA. Where's the where's the other storylines? No other storylines dominate the headlines. There are no dominant headlines from the w NBA. You have one and and and that's what the sports sports coverage leans into. That's the relevance of it all. You have one, and you're allowing her to get her ass whooped. I don't get it.

It's weird.

I don't get it.

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The one and only Petros Papadakis, the co host of the Petros and Money Show. You can hear on the Blowtorch and five seventy l a sports Fox college football Analysts. You can get him on x at the Old p Petros Wednesday Morning.

To you, sir Pop, good morning.

Hello, by the way, a happy belated birthday.

I hope you happy birthday, my guy.

I hope you got uh got my text I sent you on your birthday night?

Oh wow?

I wasn't sure if you didn't reply, so I wasn't sure if you were upset about.

Any day you have been on his friends list. Man, that's too bad you texted me.

I did you texted me? Damn?

Jodahs doesn't answer people's text or calls away from here either.

It's gerald.

Y. Yeah, since you ever opened?

Oh really? Yeah? Here back?

It's unfortunate. Thanks, by the way, I can't I'm.

Great, wonderful.

How did you celebrate?

I don't want to talk about it. What's what?

Why do you want to talk about it?

What happened? It's just I do am radio and my birthday brings too much attention.

Oh all right, well hey, that's a good reason for me. I mean, I'll leave it alone. Yeah, that's fine, all right, I know though that Just tell me, just tell me right now, act like you didn't tell me. You know about what your birthday?

How do you celebrate?

That's it?

How'd you celebrate it? What'd you do?

But if you don't get into it.

Saturday I had lunch with my parents. Sunday I went to a Father's Day party at a friend's house, And Monday I had to go.

To the Dodger gate a nice Speaking of the Dodger why did the.

The head two part was it.

Became way too much because of the Otani thing, like we didn't know, you know, and we were doing the show from there, and it ended up being great because it was a big day for the Dodgers. But I've never seen Dodger Stadium ever like that, ever, not for a World Series game, not for Otani bobblehead night. I guess so Tani bobblehead night. You know, people get there early to get the bobblehead or now they figured that they can't do their normal cutoff of whatever it is, twenty twenty five thousand bobbleheads. They have to give every single person that walks in there a bobblehead or there's going to be a war in the streets because people line up early in the morning if not, so that's kind of a thing. But I've never seen Dodger Stadium where everybody is in their seat ready to go for first pitch because it's so hard to get in there.

It's such a process.

But until everybody knew that he was only going to pitch you a one inning, maybe two turned out to be only one and the whole place was so anticipatory.

It was very interesting.

The other thing was they they they don't play the organ or anything like between pitches when he's pitching, Like, I guess he doesn't like it.

Oh so it's just like dead silent, dead silent, like like golf while people were waiting for the next pitch.

It was.

It was a very interesting dynamic. And you know what his walk up song is? Uh, oh.

No, it's no big deal. I would say, what's the guy? What what is that song called? Oh yeah, got I forget his name? Style style?

Yeah, well that guy's I mean, I wasn't trying to match him up. I just thought that that might be the song that he liked. Sigh, that guy.

I remember, there's a there's a there's a video of that Korean guy because back then the Dodgers had.

A horrible that's horrible, It's okay.

The Dodgers had a Korean pit picture and they had that guy sigh and he was very popular, and they had that guy sigh dancing around at Dodger Stadium and Tommy Lesworda was still alive, and there's a great picture of Lesorda just like staring at that guy dancing around and no there the song showing a toddy song is a feeling good.

Which is really old song.

It's from nineteen sixty Yeah, huh good, Yeah, really yeah.

And the funny thing is is like, I mean, that's Michael Boublay, a relatively contemporary jazz singer, a Canadian idiot.

But good song.

It's a great song and it's old. It's from the sixties. Walk out to.

Yeah, I don't know man, the soul and not only not only is that his walkout when he when he kids, you know, when he pitches. They played the whole thing, you know, so they were banging that. But that's an old song from a musical. I would encourage others to listen to the Nina Simone version of it.

That's a wonderful version of it, by the way, And that's brush.

That's probably the first jazz version of it. I mean, before that, it was like so many jazz standards. It was in a musical called Smell of the Crowd.

Voice Nina Simone has huh.

Well, Nina Simon is an interesting story.

Nina Simone, a tall woman, was a piano player, very famous, well not famous, but very skilled jazz pianist at the time, and she was on tour and she went somewhere and the guy's like whatever. The promoter or the booker was like, hey, where is the where's her? Yeah, where's the singer? And they were like, well, we don't sing and we don't have a singer. She just plays the piano. And they were like, if you don't have a singer, yelling and paid. So she started singing and she became you know what she is today, Nina Simone, one of the great jazz voices of all time and a.

Very unique voice.

She's gone now right, Oh, yeah, she's been.

Dead for she's gone. She shot. She shot a child, her neighbor. She's too loud. Yeah, she shot very good, LeVar, she shot.

I liked them, feel like I know a few things like you not as much as you, but I'm not. It's not a competition, no, But she shot me. You know, most people don't care about playing off of you though. Yeah, most people don't care about you know, dead jazz artists from decades and decades ago. But she shot a neighbors child in France because the kid wouldn't shut up. And the funny thing was in France, they were like, it's Nina Simone. It was a low caliber pistol, you know, but she was a volatile lady. The first song she sang was a very famous called I Loves You, Poor Yee from Porgy and Bess, which is a very famous one of the very first operas American written operas, at least that we remember, by George and Ira Gershwin.

So Nina Simone with.

The Baltimore but that's my favorite of verse.

Oh yes, that's a good one. Yeah, we wrote that song.

Randy Newman I think wrote that song or somebody very yes, somebody weird that you wouldn't think of. I knew the guy that wrote I Will Survive. Hmmm, and he was a little old You think it would be like a big fat black lady, right.

You know, big old, right, old juicy one, right, you know, a huge.

Yeah, the right I Will Survive was actually an old Greek guy with a big gray afro named Dino Ficaris.

Well, it makes sense these days.

He also wrote Reunited and it Feels So good. Oh wow, that makes sense these days once again. So so the Greek tani was doing the warm up pitching and they were playing the.

And then everybody got pumped up when.

Everybody had a real bond dignity.

Hey, why did they Why do the Padres have such a red ass? Is it because they're they peaked and now they're starting to uh come all the way back down, so they're throwing at Otani.

Well, you know, you get like after like.

A big event like that that only lasts like five minutes, you know, kind of like watching one hundred.

Meter final in the Olympics.

Yeah, there is a little bit of a letdown, like, oh, okay, watch no playing baseball. You know, when's he going to pitch again? Well maybe an inning in a week, So okay, So you got to come on to the next thing. And the next thing is a nice Well they call it a bean ball war, but it's not really a bean ball unless somebody throws it at.

The other guy's head. That's what bean balls are.

And people have been nailed in the ribs or in the middle of the back and they threw it out of Tawny's leg. That was interesting, And then Dave Roberts went out there, so that made it compelling. Yeah, Dodgers Padres is a great modern day rivalry. It's not what the Dodgers Giants is it doesn't have the great history of that. And the Giants are playing well, and they just traded for that guy from the Red Sox Devers and he's going to be good for them, so that's kind of interesting. The Giants are sort of popped up Buster Posey's doing making moves, but the Dodgers padres is a thing and it's fun to watch Manny Machado and Tatis and these guys go at it with the Dodgers. But the Dodgers, I think, have won four of the last five, you know, so they have their number a little bit.

So maybe that's why they have a red ass. But it makes it interesting.

I mean, we're talking about baseball here in the middle of June, and normally that's kind of a spin your wheels time for the sport. And there's stuff happening in La Shoe. Eotani's pitching, that's a big deal. So it's something to embrace this time of year and not as much we have to lament usc status like I.

Usually do, which is interesting. I guess a segue from that is, I mean, obviously this isn't the seemingly which is crazy to think that We're not in a very very fast time for sports, even though you know, we got game Game six coming up tomorrow with the NBA Finals, and to have these conversations the Stanley Cup just wrapped up, To have these conversations surrounding baseball at this time of the year, with the championship rounds of other sports going on, and if to.

Be in LA where you're you're locally.

Covering these things at you know, such a close eye, how does that like, does it feel different like from year to year? Petro's like this time last year, Is it different from where we're at right now today? Is it like more excitement?

I think that's a good question.

But what's happened over the years is and we had a little bit of this conversation I think a couple of weeks ago or last week, and I've repeated a couple of the points that you guys made to people talking about.

Them in season.

You're hoping, if you're a sports league, right you're hoping that you remain relevant throughout.

You know, something happened.

Somebody scores a bunch of points, somebody hits a bunch of home runs, there's a fight, you know, there's something something to talk about.

But part of the art of these sports leagues or.

Whatever is keeping themselves relevant a year round on the calendar. Colin Cowher had Jim Harbaugh on yesterday, and Jim Harbaugh was at the Dodger game and he asked him about Shoe Hayotani and he's talking. You know, it's the most animated he got in the whole interview, talking for two three minutes about how impressed he was.

With Shoe Heotani.

The NFL has become masterful and handling their off season, the draft, all of these different things. The Aaron Rodgers drama seemingly there's always always something to talk about, and you can be so stupid like ESPN and even put up a chiro that says, what's Dak Prescott's legacy right now?

You know?

I mean they're having these conversations in June when guys are running around with no pads and helmets on for like two or three days. I remember basketball did a much better job for a long time. Remember when they're following.

Kawhi Leonard around Canada and a great helicopter.

Remember when DeAndre Jordan was dating Doc Rivers' daughters, so he could become you know, stay with the Clippers.

You know, you remember they had the emojis, Like different players are posting emojis on Twitter trying to land de Andre Jordan and Mark Cuban went after christ Gizard afterwards.

It's great.

Geeor McGee's doing videos about Andre Drummond like he's gonna somehow make a difference for the Lakers, you know, I mean the off season things become a deal. And look at baseball. When the Dodger signed not Tani, it was like a Japanese party. And then they signed Yamamoto, Japanese party. They signed Roki Sasaki, Japanese off season party.

By the way, I remember being on the air when Gordon I remember being on the air when Gordon Hayward signed with the Celtics, and and some guy from Utah called in and said he was driving across the state line to go buy booze because he was so depressed about Gordon Hayward. Those are the good old days.

Yeah, but you know, like it's something to do in the off season, and I think we did you make this point. I mean, college football's offseason sucks.

Oh.

College football's offseason has become like the worst thing ever. It's become something so unsavory that nobody even wants to deal with. You know, the transfer portal makes people sick, the NIL makes people sick. All the different confusing conference changes, and everybody's suing each other.

Every commissioner's campaigning for their conference to get more automatic quality.

And every commissioner and the SEC's campaigning to leave the NCAA, which is inevitable.

I mean, you know, it's just not as fun as DeAndre Dordon Jordan and Doc River's daughter.

That's a fair Like I'd almost rather listen to Steve Kerr and Popovich bitch about politics, and I don't want to hear those guys like, you know, I mean, you guys are basketball coaching, Like what's going on?

Like seriously, why do you have to do that?

Like it's like a press conference, like you're sitting in the White House, like give an oppresser.

So what do you think about this new policy change? We'll let me tell you. Thanks Steve Kerr.

So, you know, I mean, it is interesting how how damaging our off season is becoming college football. I don't really think it effects when the game start. I think people get really excited, like all of us and want to see what happens. And when the teams put are put together, then that's it. It should be it and we should play. But they've got to figure out a better off season because everybody else has it figured out way better than we do, even punk ass NBA.

That's interesting.

Well we have is Lebron's podcast, you know this time of year, So wait for him to say something stupid and then you know we have to make twenty minutes out of it.

He's coming back, Well, his podcast came back the other day. Is he coming back?

Oh? I don't care as.

Long as he says something on this podcast stupid and we can make fun of him for ten minutes. Steve Nash yesterday the low energy podcaster Steve Nash out of the South Bay by Way of Canada, Lebron said the A all be all like A and B like the letters in the alphabet, as opposed to the end all be all, you know, because he's trying to sound smarter.

Uh, and I got him like ten minutes out of that time.

Hey, I even say it like Andre Nicotina, a all y'all f around with a y'all all up in my knees.

All must have been crazy, y'all. That's really good. That's that's like a really fire bar right there.

Bro. Thank you Nicotina Ao for yo.

Hey, what was the name of the woman you mentioned earlier? That that shot?

That kid?

The tall woman? Who is Anna Simone? Speaking of tall women, what do you make of the treatment of Caitlin Clark by the w n b A and the rough housing that is going on?

Can I admit a guilty pleasure? Yes?

You like it?

I watch Kaitlin Clark highlights.

Hey, like when the fever's over, Like when the game's over and I see the fever have played, you know, because it pops up somewhere Caitlin Clark hits eight point shot, you know, or something like that. I go back on YouTube. I mean there's a They do an incredible job on YouTube.

Yeah they do. You know. They these are up ten minutes.

The people that cut highlights, they're up ten, fifteen to twenty minutes after the game is over. Sometimes Quicker and I watched the highlights, and last night I watched the highlights of her game. I was like, where's the whole fighting? They only cut out They cut out all the mid parts they only showed people making shots, so I had to go back and look at that as well.

They didn't show any of the rough housing.

Well I found it. Oh yeah, but I didn't know that.

They call the three white chicks that play for the Indiana Fever trace La Chase.

Did you guys know that?

I know they look like they're pretty good looking girls.

Somebody did mention that.

I say that from pretty girls tough.

One of them from Stanford and one from miszoois Sophie.

Yeah, she's from Missoo.

The other one is from Stanford Hall or something, and then the other one is is Caitlyn Clark.

And they all are pretty white.

You know. I mean Kaitlyn Park's real, like she never left the gym, like you could tell, like she's translucently.

White and uh and they call him the translation.

That's interesting.

The one thing I really am impressed with Caitlin Clark I think when I watch you know, I'm no, I'm not you know, Nay Smith or anything, but I watch a lot of basketball and we do sports. Is just I mean, the way she sees she sees the floor and the way she distributes the ball is really the wildest thing. In the world, which makes her so hard to deal with because you try to double team her because you know she's going to try to get that shot off and she finds people like, you know, it looks too easy, and it's pretty amazing. I love watching her, and it's I mean, I hate to be such a bandwagon guy because it's.

Not like I was like, oh my god, I want to watch this Iron Scoo.

Tape, you know, or I wasn't watching you know, Sue Bird or I mean, I came from usc where Cheryl Miller as a legend, and I watch a little Juju I guess before her leg fell off in the and that was tough to watch.

But but yeah, I watch her.

I'm I'm on the hype train, you know, and I have been for a couple of years. I've been watching her highlights since maybe her senior year at Iowa or her junior year, and I just I love to watch her compete.

She's great, she really is. I wish I could say something.

Snarky, can I can I ask this.

To you?

You say you watch that, because that's exactly you kind of said it exactly the same way I said it. Am I off, I know Jordan didn't shoot like like Caitlyn Clark shoots because it just wasn't the necessity back then. But everybody tries to make the comp of Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark and put them together and say that's the comp is bird Magic and Caitlyn and Angel Reese. I think the comp from what I'm seeing and how she's getting banged up but still trying to figure it out, still producing her points and still adjusting and adapting is to Jordan. And I know it might sound crazy, but when you really think about it, when did you have a player that hit met the caliber of what Michael Jordan was to the NBA when he got there? And what has that been post Jordan? Right, yeah, there's nobody. There's been nobody. Way, yeah, there's been nobody where you're just like this person is, you know, six feet.

Above sea level and everybody else is under under the water, all right, you know.

And in the sports pantheon, I mean it reminds me of you Saint Bolt, you know, running one hundred and two.

I mean he's winning, yeah, he's wincorns.

Yeah he's winning, but he's also fifteen or ten meters faster in one hundred meter race than the other ten fastest guys on Earth, which is that's stupid, Like you're not supposed to be that much better than everybody else. Those guys are hauling ass. I mean, it's not like he's out there running against the West Torrance Sprinting Team. No offense to the Warriors. So that's kind of what it like. That's like I saw something, Dominique. Well, we are talking. It's so crazy that Michael Jordan played so long ago comparatively to how much stuff, Like most stuff we mentioned from Michael Jordan's era to anybody that's not you know, your age or or around there, they.

Don't know it.

You know, they don't ever seen You don't know what the gobots are. You know, they got no love for Mask. You know, they don't understand the real characters of G. I. Joe like Zartan.

Yeah, come on, commander baby, Yeah.

They can tell you what happened between Jordan and the bad boys.

Right, are you talking about mask Eric Stoltz?

Are you talking no about talking mask Eric Staltz, the modern day ellanphant man. I'm talking that the toy mask anyway, exactly.

No one remembered with Jim Carrey.

No, No, like that was that was like that was a cartoon called Mask and it was like this giant mechanical mask and a sweet car would go around it and the dude would kick ass and the mask.

See.

I think that that was misleading though, because I know, but that's.

What I'm saying.

It makes my point that people don't remember anything from that era. There was the kid in the movie that ended up like, you know, passing away at the end of the movie. That share was the mom like there's that.

He looked like Brian Scalabrini or boiler alerting. Yeah, he did look like scalabrin yeahaction.

I don't care about spoiler alerts.

So you go, you go. You know what I'm saying. You know, if you're gonna I mean, it's a thirty year old movie. If you're gonna say the guy.

That big hitted boy dies at the end is what it is he did, and he did he don't so to the elephant anyway. Yeah, that was a really sad movie man.

Yes, no doubt. So what I'm saying is super sad movie man, Like.

Michael Jordan's the only thing any of us, anybody remembers from that era.

We don't remember a lot of the stuff, and it's.

Because Jackson had the elephant Man's bones.

He did.

Yeah, I'm dang used a couple.

The elephant man's name. I believe Joseph Merrick or John Merrick.

Anyway, it is important to understand that Michael Jordan is so transcendent that no one ever says anything else about anybody.

Else from any other era.

I remember Dominique Wilkins saying the other day, like people don't understand what it was like competing against that guy, Like we were great, but his eyes were red. He was crazy, you know. And uh, and I think that's what you know. I mean, I think you're right. You're looking at somebody who's must watch television every time she's playing basketball for basketball types. And I think, Kayln Clark, I think that would be the comparison, you know, much like me to some other stiff white running back ware.

Petros. It's always fun. We appreciate it. Thanks for doing it, and we will have this conversation again next Wednesday.

Here I hoped you and shout out to Isabel at the group home and woke up early out at Anah.

Yeah, at the old pon x Is where you can find them. Always a fun ride here with Petros Papadegus, the co host of the Petro Some Money Showing a Fox College Football analyst. It is two pros and a cup of Joe here on FSR

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