This is the best of two pros and a couple Joe with Lamar arings and rating Win and Jonas Knox on Boxorts Radio.

This is the best of two pros and a couple Joe with Lamar arings and rating Win and Jonas Knox on Boxorts Radio.

We opened up the show talking about the latest on Stefan Diggs. Reportedly, according to Ian Rappaport, the expectation is they will not release Stefon Diggs, which would make some sense. He was at OTA's wave to reporters there. Nice to see you, guys. Uppere do not have any sort of a pink substance with him in possession of him. While at OTA's Frank Ragnow has decided to call it a career For the Detroit Lions, that's another loss for them and everybody's kind of monitoring and tracking what is happening in Cleveland. A very fascinating storyline where the Cleveland Browns have decided, you know what, why just focus on one quarterback when we can just have a bunch that all do different things and all have different storylines. Joe Flacco is in his forties, trying to give it another go here after winning a Super Bowl a few years back. Kenny Pickett's trying to revitalize his career because things didn't go well in Pittsburgh. But he did get a Super Bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles. You've got Dylan Gabriel there, who was drafted in the third round. You've got shad Or Sanders who was drafted in the fifth. Meanwhile, off in the distance is Deshaun Watson. Uh, you know, rehabbing or making another TikTok video, which I believe, by the way, is he did they get married? Is that is that happening?

We opened up the show talking about the latest on Stefan Diggs. Reportedly, according to Ian Rappaport, the expectation is they will not release Stefon Diggs, which would make some sense. He was at OTA's wave to reporters there. Nice to see you, guys. Uppere do not have any sort of a pink substance with him in possession of him. While at OTA's Frank Ragnow has decided to call it a career For the Detroit Lions, that's another loss for them and everybody's kind of monitoring and tracking what is happening in Cleveland. A very fascinating storyline where the Cleveland Browns have decided, you know what, why just focus on one quarterback when we can just have a bunch that all do different things and all have different storylines. Joe Flacco is in his forties, trying to give it another go here after winning a Super Bowl a few years back. Kenny Pickett's trying to revitalize his career because things didn't go well in Pittsburgh. But he did get a Super Bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles. You've got Dylan Gabriel there, who was drafted in the third round. You've got shad Or Sanders who was drafted in the fifth. Meanwhile, off in the distance is Deshaun Watson. Uh, you know, rehabbing or making another TikTok video, which I believe, by the way, is he did they get married? Is that is that happening?

Look like they got engaged, and so it looks like, well, hey, you know there, you go. Listen, we listen.

Look like they got engaged, and so it looks like, well, hey, you know there, you go. Listen, we listen.

We've all uh, we've all had to overcome something, and so it's good to see that he overcame whatever.

We've all uh, we've all had to overcome something, and so it's good to see that he overcame whatever.

Go and touch it. Yeah, I'm not going touch No, don't worry.

Go and touch it. Yeah, I'm not going touch No, don't worry.

They already did so, not mary yet, Nope, just just engaged as of right now. Okay, Well, good for them, that's good for the for the happy couple there, and hope everything works out for him.

They already did so, not mary yet, Nope, just just engaged as of right now. Okay, Well, good for them, that's good for the for the happy couple there, and hope everything works out for him.

But while everyone's focused.

But while everyone's focused.

On the future, in the quarterback room with the Cleveland Browns, Dion Sanders did take time to talk about his son, Shador Sanders and sort of the conversation and narrative that was surrounding him going.

On the future, in the quarterback room with the Cleveland Browns, Dion Sanders did take time to talk about his son, Shador Sanders and sort of the conversation and narrative that was surrounding him going.

Into the draft.

Into the draft.

And he was on the Say What needs to be Said to podcast and he spoke about the perception and what it did for not only Shador but also Shiloh as well.

And he was on the Say What needs to be Said to podcast and he spoke about the perception and what it did for not only Shador but also Shiloh as well.

The Bible says God uses the foolish things to confound the wise. So it was some foolish stuff that went on, but you know what, that that gave them something that they needed, Like this gave them something that they said, I you know that, like that, like the edge that Tom had, Like that edge. It gave them that edge that you had. It gave them the edge that I had, you know, say we're gonna be that we want to be. We had to prove that that gave them the edge that they needed. When you sit up there and and say something like he went in a meeting unprepared, like dude, chadors Anders, who's had six different coordinators, who has still function and went up, leveled up every time we brought somebody new end and you're gonna.

The Bible says God uses the foolish things to confound the wise. So it was some foolish stuff that went on, but you know what, that that gave them something that they needed, Like this gave them something that they said, I you know that, like that, like the edge that Tom had, Like that edge. It gave them that edge that you had. It gave them the edge that I had, you know, say we're gonna be that we want to be. We had to prove that that gave them the edge that they needed. When you sit up there and and say something like he went in a meeting unprepared, like dude, chadors Anders, who's had six different coordinators, who has still function and went up, leveled up every time we brought somebody new end and you're gonna.

Tell me every situation.

Tell me every situation.

You're gonna tell me he had on headphone, chaud or anybody know my son, I understand he's a professional. Like he's gonna go into a meet with headphones on, like.

You're gonna tell me he had on headphone, chaud or anybody know my son, I understand he's a professional. Like he's gonna go into a meet with headphones on, like.

YO, come home.

YO, come home.

So that was Dion Sanders defending his son and some of the various reports that were out there.

So that was Dion Sanders defending his son and some of the various reports that were out there.

Following uh the draft slide that took place, and I mean, look, he does.

Following uh the draft slide that took place, and I mean, look, he does.

I was waiting for him to be more vocal about defending his son because I think I actually expected him to talk more openly about it. But I think he's just sort of taken. I'm gonna take a step back. It's my son's career. Maybe I don't want to interject too much, but I'm calling it right now. If shaud Or Sanders has the type of success that they believe that he could have, and apparently the reviews out of OTAs have been very, very good for shaud Or Sanders, now he's performed. If he ends up getting that starting job and ends up playing well, Dion Sanders is going to have something for everybody, Like he's going to have something for everybody who questioned his son's commitment, his preparation, his ability, so on and so forth. Based on all of that, I think he's just letting it marinate, letting it all sit there, and he's going to have something for all the naysayers and the haters out there of shoud Or Sanders going and going through the draft process, all right.

I was waiting for him to be more vocal about defending his son because I think I actually expected him to talk more openly about it. But I think he's just sort of taken. I'm gonna take a step back. It's my son's career. Maybe I don't want to interject too much, but I'm calling it right now. If shaud Or Sanders has the type of success that they believe that he could have, and apparently the reviews out of OTAs have been very, very good for shaud Or Sanders, now he's performed. If he ends up getting that starting job and ends up playing well, Dion Sanders is going to have something for everybody, Like he's going to have something for everybody who questioned his son's commitment, his preparation, his ability, so on and so forth. Based on all of that, I think he's just letting it marinate, letting it all sit there, and he's going to have something for all the naysayers and the haters out there of shoud Or Sanders going and going through the draft process, all right.

What Dion said is what a parent would say about their their child, because of parents knows their child better than anybody else does, so I think he was speaking from a parent perspective in that SoundBite, not from a coach's perspective. Is what I would offer to that as it applies to where Shador is now and what that situation looks like. Again, I'm going to continue to maintain what I've maintained, and not reports, not reviews, or anything else is going to change how I see this. It is an uphill battle for Shador Sanders, and for what it's worth, it's not like like just thinking sensibly of it and practically about it. If a kid gets drafted in the fifth round of the draft and that very team took a player earlier in the draft in the third round at the same position, it is going to be a very very hard task for anyone take that. Remove the name, remove the name, remove the reasonings why like you want you want to say, the reason why he went in this round is because of X, Y and Z. Remove all of those things and just look at at look at this from a face value perspective, you have a quarterback that's worth over two hundred and thirty million dollars that isn't even going to be ready to play. You bring in two vets ahead of the draft. One of those vets played very well for the Cleveland Browns a year removed from that, played well in his spot duties where he was at last year in Indy. Gets called to come back and to compete for the job, and made it very clear he's going to compete for the job in his interview he's not interested in being a role model. Canny Pickett is like, he's the one that's the one element, that's the one piece of this puzzle that is the most undefined piece as it applies to why would you bring him? Because he wasn't successful As he was not successful as a starter in Pittsburgh, he took on the role of being a backup, gets a super Bowl in Philly. But what does that lead to, Like does his time in the league equate to him being prepared to now be a starter in Cleveland? I don't think so. So your problem probably looking at Kenny Pickett as being a backup. That's what you're probably looking at and projecting Kenny Pickett to be I do not think you're projecting him to be a starter for your team. So you bring in Joe Flacco to compete to be the starter. Who is he competing to be the starter with? Are we basically saying there are going to be enough reps, which this conversation has already been had plenty of times. There's going to be enough reps between four players to be able to find your way to the starting position from the last position drafted. Now, I will say this is daunting a task as it is for a fifth round draft pick that has a third round draft pick in the same exact draft class with two vets. This could be And this is where what when you bring up Dion and how you say he'll have something for everybody if if Shador Sanders pulls through and is able to somehow defy the odds. Because this is one hundred percent of defying of the odds situation for Shador Sanders, whether people want to admit that or not. That's the truth. The faith element of this, you know, it's like the spiritual element of this. It's such a major part of Dion Sanders's life. It's such a major part of Shador and the Sanders families' lives. It's it's a major part they're god fearing people. Well, it's it's one of those moments. Is the one that was last going to end up being the one that's first? You know, It's like Bob mar really had a song and one of the lyrics in the song was but the stone that the builder refused shall be the head corner stone.

What Dion said is what a parent would say about their their child, because of parents knows their child better than anybody else does, so I think he was speaking from a parent perspective in that SoundBite, not from a coach's perspective. Is what I would offer to that as it applies to where Shador is now and what that situation looks like. Again, I'm going to continue to maintain what I've maintained, and not reports, not reviews, or anything else is going to change how I see this. It is an uphill battle for Shador Sanders, and for what it's worth, it's not like like just thinking sensibly of it and practically about it. If a kid gets drafted in the fifth round of the draft and that very team took a player earlier in the draft in the third round at the same position, it is going to be a very very hard task for anyone take that. Remove the name, remove the name, remove the reasonings why like you want you want to say, the reason why he went in this round is because of X, Y and Z. Remove all of those things and just look at at look at this from a face value perspective, you have a quarterback that's worth over two hundred and thirty million dollars that isn't even going to be ready to play. You bring in two vets ahead of the draft. One of those vets played very well for the Cleveland Browns a year removed from that, played well in his spot duties where he was at last year in Indy. Gets called to come back and to compete for the job, and made it very clear he's going to compete for the job in his interview he's not interested in being a role model. Canny Pickett is like, he's the one that's the one element, that's the one piece of this puzzle that is the most undefined piece as it applies to why would you bring him? Because he wasn't successful As he was not successful as a starter in Pittsburgh, he took on the role of being a backup, gets a super Bowl in Philly. But what does that lead to, Like does his time in the league equate to him being prepared to now be a starter in Cleveland? I don't think so. So your problem probably looking at Kenny Pickett as being a backup. That's what you're probably looking at and projecting Kenny Pickett to be I do not think you're projecting him to be a starter for your team. So you bring in Joe Flacco to compete to be the starter. Who is he competing to be the starter with? Are we basically saying there are going to be enough reps, which this conversation has already been had plenty of times. There's going to be enough reps between four players to be able to find your way to the starting position from the last position drafted. Now, I will say this is daunting a task as it is for a fifth round draft pick that has a third round draft pick in the same exact draft class with two vets. This could be And this is where what when you bring up Dion and how you say he'll have something for everybody if if Shador Sanders pulls through and is able to somehow defy the odds. Because this is one hundred percent of defying of the odds situation for Shador Sanders, whether people want to admit that or not. That's the truth. The faith element of this, you know, it's like the spiritual element of this. It's such a major part of Dion Sanders's life. It's such a major part of Shador and the Sanders families' lives. It's it's a major part they're god fearing people. Well, it's it's one of those moments. Is the one that was last going to end up being the one that's first? You know, It's like Bob mar really had a song and one of the lyrics in the song was but the stone that the builder refused shall be the head corner stone.

Right.

Right.

So basically, Shador Sanders, in the situation that he is he is in, finds himself with an interesting opportunity because if he were to become the starter, that is probably the biggest story in all of the National Football League when it happens.

So basically, Shador Sanders, in the situation that he is he is in, finds himself with an interesting opportunity because if he were to become the starter, that is probably the biggest story in all of the National Football League when it happens.

And wouldn't you say that if that's the case.

And wouldn't you say that if that's the case.

And he ends up being as good as Dion thinks he's going to be, and he ends up giving Dion the opportunity to shout and talk about you guys were wrong, so on, it doesn't that call into question the draft process and evaluation process of everybody else who did pass on him, because if the if the idea was well, we passed on him not because of maybe skill set, but more how he acted in meetings and how he came across why. I can understand that to a point, but five rounds, there's going to be.

And he ends up being as good as Dion thinks he's going to be, and he ends up giving Dion the opportunity to shout and talk about you guys were wrong, so on, it doesn't that call into question the draft process and evaluation process of everybody else who did pass on him, because if the if the idea was well, we passed on him not because of maybe skill set, but more how he acted in meetings and how he came across why. I can understand that to a point, but five rounds, there's going to be.

A lot of people come out. Mel Kiper's going to come out thumping. There's going to be a lot of people that come out and have something to say. If it plays out where Shador Sanders ends up being a superstar and you know, in Cleveland, I would just ask the question, Lee. Look it up. How many fifth round draft pick quarterbacks end up starting their rookie year.

A lot of people come out. Mel Kiper's going to come out thumping. There's going to be a lot of people that come out and have something to say. If it plays out where Shador Sanders ends up being a superstar and you know, in Cleveland, I would just ask the question, Lee. Look it up. How many fifth round draft pick quarterbacks end up starting their rookie year.

I can think of one off the top of my head. Who Kyle Orton due to injury? I mean, that was that was due to injury and he had to play. I'm pretty sure he was a fifth round pick if I'm not mistaken, But.

I can think of one off the top of my head. Who Kyle Orton due to injury? I mean, that was that was due to injury and he had to play. I'm pretty sure he was a fifth round pick if I'm not mistaken, But.

That was, you know, that was. I don't know that. It's not like he won the job. That was due to injury.

That was, you know, that was. I don't know that. It's not like he won the job. That was due to injury.

He had, he had an opportunity to play and going there and the second that Rex Grossman was back, they made the move to go to Grossman, so that I didn't even think that this was a him.

He had, he had an opportunity to play and going there and the second that Rex Grossman was back, they made the move to go to Grossman, so that I didn't even think that this was a him.

Just winning the job outright. But other than that, it's.

Just winning the job outright. But other than that, it's.

I can't I can't think of. According to ESPN's mel Kiper Junior, none of the QB's picked in the fifth round have become regular starters over the last thirty years. I just don't. Again, I hate to be the one that kind of injects some just logic to the scenario. But it's a daunting task, man, and it's a task that won't It just doesn't seem like that'll work out.

I can't I can't think of. According to ESPN's mel Kiper Junior, none of the QB's picked in the fifth round have become regular starters over the last thirty years. I just don't. Again, I hate to be the one that kind of injects some just logic to the scenario. But it's a daunting task, man, and it's a task that won't It just doesn't seem like that'll work out.

And correction, Kyler was taken to the fourth round, fourth round, not the fit.

And correction, Kyler was taken to the fourth round, fourth round, not the fit.

And for what it's worth, how did his career go?

And for what it's worth, how did his career go?

Well?

Well?

Was it not bad? You know?

Was it not bad? You know?

Well?

Well?

How long did he make it in? How long was he a starter for?

How long did he make it in? How long was he a starter for?

Uh?

Uh?

I remember him being pretty good out of Purdue. It was a really good quarterback at produe, like really good.

I remember him being pretty good out of Purdue. It was a really good quarterback at produe, like really good.

He ended up playing nine years.

He ended up playing nine years.

It's not bad. Yeah, how many did he start?

It's not bad. Yeah, how many did he start?

He had eighty two starts in nine years, forty two and forty record, one hundred and one touchdown, sixty nine picks.

He had eighty two starts in nine years, forty two and forty record, one hundred and one touchdown, sixty nine picks.

Yeah, I mean, I just hate the round pick. I hate to be the bearer of bad news fifth round draft picks. It's just it's especially again, especially with a third round draft pick in the mix, it's not enough, Like, how can you sit here and people say we're going to justify downgrading and downplaying the fact that Dylan Gabriel is the third round draft pick for this like Dylan Gabriel is a non factor in the conversation.

Yeah, I mean, I just hate the round pick. I hate to be the bearer of bad news fifth round draft picks. It's just it's especially again, especially with a third round draft pick in the mix, it's not enough, Like, how can you sit here and people say we're going to justify downgrading and downplaying the fact that Dylan Gabriel is the third round draft pick for this like Dylan Gabriel is a non factor in the conversation.

All right, So let me ask you this. If we're talking about quarterbacks drafted by a team in the same draft at different points in the draft. You were in Washington when they took RG three and then took Kirk Cousins later in the draft, what was the conversation like, Because I remember at the time when they did that, thinking, well, that's interesting. That seems a little uh, it seems kind of interesting that that's how that would play out. This is third and fifth, so it's a little different. But that was also a situation in a scenario where I don't know if anybody got the feeling going into it that maybe Kirk Cousins had a real shot or if this was just a best player available.

All right, So let me ask you this. If we're talking about quarterbacks drafted by a team in the same draft at different points in the draft. You were in Washington when they took RG three and then took Kirk Cousins later in the draft, what was the conversation like, Because I remember at the time when they did that, thinking, well, that's interesting. That seems a little uh, it seems kind of interesting that that's how that would play out. This is third and fifth, so it's a little different. But that was also a situation in a scenario where I don't know if anybody got the feeling going into it that maybe Kirk Cousins had a real shot or if this was just a best player available.

But that was a debate day one, and it was a debate day one because of all of this dysfunction that was taking place in Washington. And that was one of those deals where it was like one of the picks was Shanahan's and one of the pick was was Dan Snyder's. And from what I heard it was a matter of he was an insurance policy to RG three. I don't remember it off the top of my head, but I feel like I feel like it wasn't Kirk Cousins was the insurance policy based off of if RG three was going to be able to do it at the pro level. Like that that was how how I got it, Like somebody, somebody didn't want to take RG three. I just don't remember off the top of my head. I don't want to mess it up, but I would assume I would assume that kirk Cousins would have been the one that the Shanahans wanted. I would have assumed. I would assume that, But I could be wrong.

But that was a debate day one, and it was a debate day one because of all of this dysfunction that was taking place in Washington. And that was one of those deals where it was like one of the picks was Shanahan's and one of the pick was was Dan Snyder's. And from what I heard it was a matter of he was an insurance policy to RG three. I don't remember it off the top of my head, but I feel like I feel like it wasn't Kirk Cousins was the insurance policy based off of if RG three was going to be able to do it at the pro level. Like that that was how how I got it, Like somebody, somebody didn't want to take RG three. I just don't remember off the top of my head. I don't want to mess it up, but I would assume I would assume that kirk Cousins would have been the one that the Shanahans wanted. I would have assumed. I would assume that, But I could be wrong.

What's that supposed to mean?

What's that supposed to mean?

Well, I think people felt like some people felt like Kirk Cousins came in with more of a skill set that would fit what the Shanahan's offense. What it was. Wow, Wow, RG three was more of a you know, more of a mobile quarterback.

Well, I think people felt like some people felt like Kirk Cousins came in with more of a skill set that would fit what the Shanahan's offense. What it was. Wow, Wow, RG three was more of a you know, more of a mobile quarterback.

I do wonder on that point, because listen, we don't know who's going to be the quarterback. I mean, we're you know, we can kind of speculate. I think it's going to be Flacco. We don't know who the starter is going to be. We know Deshaun Watson still got more time left on his deal, whatever the hell happens there, Like, the one thing that we do know is if the Browns are bad again this year, Kevin Stefanski's probably gone, like this is probably it. And I just wonder Stefanski, which is why I believe he's going to ultimately go with Joe Flacco as a starter, because he looks at this and goes, Man, if I have another bad year, I'm out, yes, and I got to save my job. And I just wonder how he felt about the decision to take another quarterback with my fifth round pick after we just took one in the third, whether he looks at that and goes, look, I need all the help I can get. We can only start one quarterback. What are we doing? Like, what's what's the plan here? Because look, you you saw the faces in the room and they made.

I do wonder on that point, because listen, we don't know who's going to be the quarterback. I mean, we're you know, we can kind of speculate. I think it's going to be Flacco. We don't know who the starter is going to be. We know Deshaun Watson still got more time left on his deal, whatever the hell happens there, Like, the one thing that we do know is if the Browns are bad again this year, Kevin Stefanski's probably gone, like this is probably it. And I just wonder Stefanski, which is why I believe he's going to ultimately go with Joe Flacco as a starter, because he looks at this and goes, Man, if I have another bad year, I'm out, yes, and I got to save my job. And I just wonder how he felt about the decision to take another quarterback with my fifth round pick after we just took one in the third, whether he looks at that and goes, look, I need all the help I can get. We can only start one quarterback. What are we doing? Like, what's what's the plan here? Because look, you you saw the faces in the room and they made.

The decision no real real emotion, So you know.

The decision no real real emotion, So you know.

I mean, maybe this, Maybe this is another example of Jimmy HASLM getting involved and being like, well, I like the storyline, much like maybe Dan Snyder got involved in wanting to take RG three.

I mean, maybe this, Maybe this is another example of Jimmy HASLM getting involved and being like, well, I like the storyline, much like maybe Dan Snyder got involved in wanting to take RG three.

When he did.

When he did.

I mean, they're just it's still is a strange.

I mean, they're just it's still is a strange.

Move to me.

Move to me.

Was a huge success though, Yeah, and they had and they had great success with him. He was the rookie of the year. RG three just got hit by a sledgehammer and a steam engine by the name of Hellodi not and and Dangaire knocked his leg off of his body. I've seen it with my own two eyes. It was an injury. It was an injury that that allowed for as you mentioned with Kyle Orton, it was an injury that allowed for for Kirk Cousins to get the opportunity to even play. It wasn't in the cards. It wasn't. It wasn't set up for kirk Cousins to be a starter. He was going to be a backup until he probably left in free agency and went somewhere else after he was done in Washington. It just happened to be. You know, RG three injured his knee and couldn't stay healthy after that. Like literally, he could not stay healthy after he injured his knee in that in that playoff game. So it was it was an opportunistic moment for Kirk Cousins. Does that opportunity come for for Shador Sanders, it's it's to me if it plays out where again, like Q isn't here to say it, but we've said it enough. If one of these guys doesn't get the starting job, are they really gonna actually ask to be released to go somewhere else? Like to me, I don't see how that makes sense. If I'm Kenny Pickett, if I'm on this roster and I'm set to be a backup on this roster to an old ass Joe Flacco, why would I ask for Why would I ask for a release to go somewhere else? And what's the guarantee that you're gonna get picked up by another team that's gonna put you in a situation that could be as advantageous as the one you're in right now? How has that happened? So, if I'm Kenny Pickett, I'm not asking for a release. I'm gonna I'm gonna play my role as the backup until I get an opportunity. There's two ways I can get on this field right now. One Joe Flacco doesn't hold up. Two Joe Flacco doesn't play well. That's how I can get on the field. So I'm gonna just buy my time. But as it applies to the two rookies, I'm just I cannot I cannot rest logic on the idea that a fifth rounder is going to outperform and play and get enough time and enough reps to outperform the third rounder. The third rounder is going to be given the reps, the backup is going to be given the reps, and the starter is going to get the lion's share of the reps. So I don't see how the odd man out is the fifth round pick. They're going to have to play him because he's the on Oh he's e'sha door Sanders, and the situation is what it is, but it's it's got to be considered a long shot for him to be able to make this meteoric rise up the depth chart to being the starting quarterback in Cleveland like that, to me, it's a pipe dream, if I'm being totally honest.

Was a huge success though, Yeah, and they had and they had great success with him. He was the rookie of the year. RG three just got hit by a sledgehammer and a steam engine by the name of Hellodi not and and Dangaire knocked his leg off of his body. I've seen it with my own two eyes. It was an injury. It was an injury that that allowed for as you mentioned with Kyle Orton, it was an injury that allowed for for Kirk Cousins to get the opportunity to even play. It wasn't in the cards. It wasn't. It wasn't set up for kirk Cousins to be a starter. He was going to be a backup until he probably left in free agency and went somewhere else after he was done in Washington. It just happened to be. You know, RG three injured his knee and couldn't stay healthy after that. Like literally, he could not stay healthy after he injured his knee in that in that playoff game. So it was it was an opportunistic moment for Kirk Cousins. Does that opportunity come for for Shador Sanders, it's it's to me if it plays out where again, like Q isn't here to say it, but we've said it enough. If one of these guys doesn't get the starting job, are they really gonna actually ask to be released to go somewhere else? Like to me, I don't see how that makes sense. If I'm Kenny Pickett, if I'm on this roster and I'm set to be a backup on this roster to an old ass Joe Flacco, why would I ask for Why would I ask for a release to go somewhere else? And what's the guarantee that you're gonna get picked up by another team that's gonna put you in a situation that could be as advantageous as the one you're in right now? How has that happened? So, if I'm Kenny Pickett, I'm not asking for a release. I'm gonna I'm gonna play my role as the backup until I get an opportunity. There's two ways I can get on this field right now. One Joe Flacco doesn't hold up. Two Joe Flacco doesn't play well. That's how I can get on the field. So I'm gonna just buy my time. But as it applies to the two rookies, I'm just I cannot I cannot rest logic on the idea that a fifth rounder is going to outperform and play and get enough time and enough reps to outperform the third rounder. The third rounder is going to be given the reps, the backup is going to be given the reps, and the starter is going to get the lion's share of the reps. So I don't see how the odd man out is the fifth round pick. They're going to have to play him because he's the on Oh he's e'sha door Sanders, and the situation is what it is, but it's it's got to be considered a long shot for him to be able to make this meteoric rise up the depth chart to being the starting quarterback in Cleveland like that, to me, it's a pipe dream, if I'm being totally honest.

And if you just take a step back and look at it, it all goes back to ground zero, which is everybody's been putting a tough spot. So Kevin Stefanski's been putting a tough spot, Joe Flacco's been putt in a tough spot. Kenny Pickett's been putting a tough spot. Shod Or Sanders and Dylan Gabriel been putting a tough spot, and they've all been putt in a tough spot because Deshaun Watson put everybody in a tough spot.

And if you just take a step back and look at it, it all goes back to ground zero, which is everybody's been putting a tough spot. So Kevin Stefanski's been putting a tough spot, Joe Flacco's been putt in a tough spot. Kenny Pickett's been putting a tough spot. Shod Or Sanders and Dylan Gabriel been putting a tough spot, and they've all been putt in a tough spot because Deshaun Watson put everybody in a tough spot.

And it was Jimmy.

And it was Jimmy.

Haslam who put everybody involved in the tough spot by making the move to bring in to Shaun Watson and it failing completely from the get go, Like it just so now they're just sort of scrambling to try and figure out what direction to go, and they've got a bunch of the same thing all in the room and everyone looking around and going, Okay, I guess this is how we're doing it.

Haslam who put everybody involved in the tough spot by making the move to bring in to Shaun Watson and it failing completely from the get go, Like it just so now they're just sort of scrambling to try and figure out what direction to go, and they've got a bunch of the same thing all in the room and everyone looking around and going, Okay, I guess this is how we're doing it.

It's just it's bizarre, man, really.

It's just it's bizarre, man, really.

All if all this and that and the way things have been handled leads to Shador Sanders starting as the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns at face value, it will be the biggest story in all of the NFL, and good luck to him. Like it's a great situation in the sense that if you're a fifth rounder, this would be the situation I would want to be in. Like you got an old man, you got a backup unproven, and he Shador probably feels like he's a better ball player than Dylan Gabriel. So but Dylan Gabriel is a baller, and maybe he's undersized, but the dude's a baller. He won the Big Ten, made it to the college playoffs, like was a successful quarter back in college. Like like, let's not downplay Dylan Gabriel for the sake of, you know, trying to hype up, you know, Shador Sanders, Like, let's see who wins the job.

All if all this and that and the way things have been handled leads to Shador Sanders starting as the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns at face value, it will be the biggest story in all of the NFL, and good luck to him. Like it's a great situation in the sense that if you're a fifth rounder, this would be the situation I would want to be in. Like you got an old man, you got a backup unproven, and he Shador probably feels like he's a better ball player than Dylan Gabriel. So but Dylan Gabriel is a baller, and maybe he's undersized, but the dude's a baller. He won the Big Ten, made it to the college playoffs, like was a successful quarter back in college. Like like, let's not downplay Dylan Gabriel for the sake of, you know, trying to hype up, you know, Shador Sanders, Like, let's see who wins the job.

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Kyle Pitts, the tight end for the Atlanta Falcons, is dealing with a little bit of an issue, and Raheem Morris, Raheem Morris, he actually spoke about Kyle Pitts and not being available dealing with some sort of an undisclosed injury yesterday at OTA's extremely.

Kyle Pitts, the tight end for the Atlanta Falcons, is dealing with a little bit of an issue, and Raheem Morris, Raheem Morris, he actually spoke about Kyle Pitts and not being available dealing with some sort of an undisclosed injury yesterday at OTA's extremely.

Cautious with Kyle right now and what's got what's got going on? Obviously, you know, talk about injuries this time of year, but definitely being cautious with them so you won't see him. He's been here. He's done such a great job of all stuff that we'd asked him. He's been in every single meeting, he's been in every single thing that we've done other than the field, and he's been absolutely outstanding to be around.

Cautious with Kyle right now and what's got what's got going on? Obviously, you know, talk about injuries this time of year, but definitely being cautious with them so you won't see him. He's been here. He's done such a great job of all stuff that we'd asked him. He's been in every single meeting, he's been in every single thing that we've done other than the field, and he's been absolutely outstanding to be around.

Yeah, it's interesting, all of a sudden, an undisclosed injury for Kyle Pitts. And then you look around and you go, gosh, sure are a lot of trade rumors involving Kyle Pitts around the league, A guy who was drafted very high but just hasn't quite lived up, even though he's shown flashes to his potential there in Atlanta.

Yeah, it's interesting, all of a sudden, an undisclosed injury for Kyle Pitts. And then you look around and you go, gosh, sure are a lot of trade rumors involving Kyle Pitts around the league, A guy who was drafted very high but just hasn't quite lived up, even though he's shown flashes to his potential there in Atlanta.

And I just wonder, is.

And I just wonder, is.

This undisclosed injury that he's dealing with code for Well, we just don't want to get him hurt before we end up trading the guy. And we're having conversations with people. Maybe he's got the uh. Maybe this is the hyper extended trade bait injury that's going on here. Maybe that's what it is. Because I don't buy for one second that Kyle Pitts has got some sort of an undis closed injury. I think the Atlanta Falcons are trying to make a deal and they're just keeping him out of harm's way so they can execute this deal sooner rather than later.

This undisclosed injury that he's dealing with code for Well, we just don't want to get him hurt before we end up trading the guy. And we're having conversations with people. Maybe he's got the uh. Maybe this is the hyper extended trade bait injury that's going on here. Maybe that's what it is. Because I don't buy for one second that Kyle Pitts has got some sort of an undis closed injury. I think the Atlanta Falcons are trying to make a deal and they're just keeping him out of harm's way so they can execute this deal sooner rather than later.

What do you think of that?

What do you think of that?

Bar Uh, it's not a horrible it's not a horrible theory.

Bar Uh, it's not a horrible it's not a horrible theory.

Can I get a little bit of an endorsement?

Can I get a little bit of an endorsement?

It's not a horrible theory. I'll say this full awareness. His contract does run out this year, and I think that it's a matter of getting a contract extension done at the least an extension or a new contract deal done before you start putting him out there. I think it might be as simple as that. So you think it's more of an extension and not it's a negotiation. I mean, he's speaking very highly of him, and listen, Rahiem is a players coach. The players love him. He's a relatable dude. So he's not going to say anything crazy about col Pits unless it was really necessary. So it could be a smoke screen to be able to keep his value high and maybe see that a trade suitor would would jump at it. I mean, there's certainly people that could use him, there's teams that could use use his services. But I think that he would be one hundred percent valued as an Atlanta Falcon. And you know he doesn't have a contract beyond this year. His contract runs.

It's not a horrible theory. I'll say this full awareness. His contract does run out this year, and I think that it's a matter of getting a contract extension done at the least an extension or a new contract deal done before you start putting him out there. I think it might be as simple as that. So you think it's more of an extension and not it's a negotiation. I mean, he's speaking very highly of him, and listen, Rahiem is a players coach. The players love him. He's a relatable dude. So he's not going to say anything crazy about col Pits unless it was really necessary. So it could be a smoke screen to be able to keep his value high and maybe see that a trade suitor would would jump at it. I mean, there's certainly people that could use him, there's teams that could use use his services. But I think that he would be one hundred percent valued as an Atlanta Falcon. And you know he doesn't have a contract beyond this year. His contract runs.

Out, so you think he's going to get a deal.

Out, so you think he's going to get a deal.

I think he's going to get a deal. His sticks picks bam.

I think he's going to get a deal. His sticks picks bam.

I think he's going to get traded.

I think he's going to get traded.

I mean they picked line, they picked up his they picked up his fifth year option in twenty four in April, they picked up his fifth year option. So I just you know, I think he's going to he wants a deal. I think he'll redo a deal. I think that that's what they're waiting on it. They'll have a deal done.

I mean they picked line, they picked up his they picked up his fifth year option in twenty four in April, they picked up his fifth year option. So I just you know, I think he's going to he wants a deal. I think he'll redo a deal. I think that that's what they're waiting on it. They'll have a deal done.

By the way, one of the great fantasy football team of all time as Kyle Pitts. You just assume he's going to put up monster numbers and for some reason it has not worked out. It is just not panned out the way everybody thought it was. So we'll keep you posted. But those are our picks, calling our shot and Kyle Pitts.

By the way, one of the great fantasy football team of all time as Kyle Pitts. You just assume he's going to put up monster numbers and for some reason it has not worked out. It is just not panned out the way everybody thought it was. So we'll keep you posted. But those are our picks, calling our shot and Kyle Pitts.

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We welcome in the man himself a Tuesday tradition. He is Pete Prisco Senior NFL calumnist for CBS Sports. He's a CBS Sports HQ analyst and you can get him on X at Prisco CBS Pete, good morning, how are we feeling?

We welcome in the man himself a Tuesday tradition. He is Pete Prisco Senior NFL calumnist for CBS Sports. He's a CBS Sports HQ analyst and you can get him on X at Prisco CBS Pete, good morning, how are we feeling?

Good morning?

Good morning?

Oh, Brady Quinn today? Huh?

Oh, Brady Quinn today? Huh?

Now?

Now?

Or next week or the week after?

Or next week or the week after?

Keep going, keeping, keep going going.

Keep going, keeping, keep going going.

We're going going. How long.

We're going going. How long.

He's going to be on an enter jazzer, bunny break?

He's going to be on an enter jazzer, bunny break?

You know how long?

You know how long?

A little while at.

A little while at.

Wile You know what, LeVar, You get a lot of airtime that way. Then, because I know Brady, I know Brady Brady. You know, we used to call it like Brady would intercept. It would go okay, the host would say something, then Brady would say something, and then it'd come to me or whoever on the end. And then always before it went back to the host, Brady had intercept it and make his final points. You know what I mean. He never played he never played dB in his life, but he always knew how to intercept when he was when it comes to sit on the deck, I'll tell you that right now. You know what I say, LeVar, what's good for me is good for me, and so Brady's not there, it's good for you. You get more air.

Wile You know what, LeVar, You get a lot of airtime that way. Then, because I know Brady, I know Brady Brady. You know, we used to call it like Brady would intercept. It would go okay, the host would say something, then Brady would say something, and then it'd come to me or whoever on the end. And then always before it went back to the host, Brady had intercept it and make his final points. You know what I mean. He never played he never played dB in his life, but he always knew how to intercept when he was when it comes to sit on the deck, I'll tell you that right now. You know what I say, LeVar, what's good for me is good for me, and so Brady's not there, it's good for you. You get more air.

Right, So, Pete, I got like listening to Jonas, you know, that's all Pete.

Right, So, Pete, I got like listening to Jonas, you know, that's all Pete.

I got to ask you a I got to ask you a question because I wanted you to just further explain something that you put on social media. I was looking at one are your tweets from from Pete Prisco Prisco CBS on X quote, it's that time of the year. Every player at OTA's is in the best shape of his life. Every surgery they had has been a success. They are all ready to take the next step. And even lollipop throws on air make this app droole. It's boys of summertime, no pads, no tell I mean, what sets you off in that direction?

I got to ask you a I got to ask you a question because I wanted you to just further explain something that you put on social media. I was looking at one are your tweets from from Pete Prisco Prisco CBS on X quote, it's that time of the year. Every player at OTA's is in the best shape of his life. Every surgery they had has been a success. They are all ready to take the next step. And even lollipop throws on air make this app droole. It's boys of summertime, no pads, no tell I mean, what sets you off in that direction?

Because every single day on Twitter or x every single day, somebody is getting lauded for the way they look, or how great or shape they're in, or this through they put the video of a throw. Look at this guy, he's throwing great, He's throwing one on one with nobody covering anybody. I mean, give me a break. And so it's just always been that way. I remember way back in the day when I covered the Jaguars in the nineties, this guy showed up and he was a wide receiver and he came in and he was making all these plays and he's talking all this smack, and then the veterans came in. They said, wait, we get them in pads. And as soon as you got him pads, he disappeared. And so I just think that we get so enamored with what's going on, and the reality is you can't read anything into this. Nobody can hit, nobody can get real physical. We don't know what they're doing because you don't know if and I have many a quarterback when I traveled around my training camp tours and talking to guys and saying, look, if I don't know why they chart passes in training camp, I might work on something here where I wouldn't even do it in a game, just to see if it might work and if it's intercepted, oh well, And yet here we are charting plays. I saw the other day at a Cleveland Browns camp they charted the throws of the quarterbacks. What are we doing?

Because every single day on Twitter or x every single day, somebody is getting lauded for the way they look, or how great or shape they're in, or this through they put the video of a throw. Look at this guy, he's throwing great, He's throwing one on one with nobody covering anybody. I mean, give me a break. And so it's just always been that way. I remember way back in the day when I covered the Jaguars in the nineties, this guy showed up and he was a wide receiver and he came in and he was making all these plays and he's talking all this smack, and then the veterans came in. They said, wait, we get them in pads. And as soon as you got him pads, he disappeared. And so I just think that we get so enamored with what's going on, and the reality is you can't read anything into this. Nobody can hit, nobody can get real physical. We don't know what they're doing because you don't know if and I have many a quarterback when I traveled around my training camp tours and talking to guys and saying, look, if I don't know why they chart passes in training camp, I might work on something here where I wouldn't even do it in a game, just to see if it might work and if it's intercepted, oh well, And yet here we are charting plays. I saw the other day at a Cleveland Browns camp they charted the throws of the quarterbacks. What are we doing?

It's crazy, they say, look like Tarzan Gang like Jane that was.

It's crazy, they say, look like Tarzan Gang like Jane that was.

You know, LeVar you know how it is. And by the way, and by the way, having said all that, I'm gonna be at Bucksmith of Ota practice today was here go get it.

You know, LeVar you know how it is. And by the way, and by the way, having said all that, I'm gonna be at Bucksmith of Ota practice today was here go get it.

Think another Bucks practice. There's a Sanders on the Bucks team, so that'd be interesting to see how you know he's performing. But I guess I want to ask you, Pete in terms of am I wrong? You know, the coach Dion Sanders came out, had to say what he had to say about the situation with with Shador Am I wrong for saying? Can we take the name out of the pick? You're the fourth or fourth? I would want to say fourth pick of the fifth round? There was a quarterback taken in the third round they brought into free agents. There's Deshaun Watson. That's like whatever his situation is? Am I wrong for saying? If you take out and you remove the name from that fifth round pick? What is the likelihood of a fifth rounder surpassing a third rounder that's first, first, and foremost, which is the largest one, that's the biggest one. How does a fifth rounder overtake a third rounder for one and then two? How does a fifth rounder overtake that third rounder then overtake the backup then overtake the starter to become the starter of the team. How I mean, if you take the name away from it and you look at it at its bare minimum and exercise common sense, it doesn't make any sense. Pete, Can you make it make sense for me? How should we be looking at this Because to me, I'm not going to look at it as it's Shador Sanders. I'm going to look at it as this was a fifth round draft pick. What are his his you know, possibilities in terms of being a player on this team.

Think another Bucks practice. There's a Sanders on the Bucks team, so that'd be interesting to see how you know he's performing. But I guess I want to ask you, Pete in terms of am I wrong? You know, the coach Dion Sanders came out, had to say what he had to say about the situation with with Shador Am I wrong for saying? Can we take the name out of the pick? You're the fourth or fourth? I would want to say fourth pick of the fifth round? There was a quarterback taken in the third round they brought into free agents. There's Deshaun Watson. That's like whatever his situation is? Am I wrong for saying? If you take out and you remove the name from that fifth round pick? What is the likelihood of a fifth rounder surpassing a third rounder that's first, first, and foremost, which is the largest one, that's the biggest one. How does a fifth rounder overtake a third rounder for one and then two? How does a fifth rounder overtake that third rounder then overtake the backup then overtake the starter to become the starter of the team. How I mean, if you take the name away from it and you look at it at its bare minimum and exercise common sense, it doesn't make any sense. Pete, Can you make it make sense for me? How should we be looking at this Because to me, I'm not going to look at it as it's Shador Sanders. I'm going to look at it as this was a fifth round draft pick. What are his his you know, possibilities in terms of being a player on this team.

And I can guarantee you LeVar sentence exactly how the Cleveland Browns are looking at it. I mean you made the point. Look, Dylan Gabriel is picked in the third round ahead of him for a reason. They clearly thought he was a better prospect and a better player and had the attention to be a better quarterback. Now that's not to sit here and say that mishad Or Sanders can't go in there and now play them. He can and he has that opportunity. But when you look at it on the surface, if his name wasn't Sanders and it was something else, he'd be a fifth round pick that everybody would sit there and say, oh, boy, I hope he plays well enough to maybe even make the team. That's the reality of it. And now they're talking about, like you said, going past Dylan Gabriel, going past Picket, going past Joe Flacco. I mean, let's get real. And sometimes, you know, we put so much into this stuff before the process, and when the guy goes in the fifth round, everybody goes, oh, he got it. Nobody they didn't draft him because of his dad. They didn't draft them because of this. They didn't draft them because it fits around, because that's what they thought of them. You know, I was on with a guy when they did draft him, one of our analysts, and he said, oh, they got one over on Pittsburgh. I said, they got one over on Pittsburgh. If Pittsburgh wanted them, they could have drafted him anytime they wanted to. Nobody wanted to pick him until the fifth round. And that's why the fifth round pick period.

And I can guarantee you LeVar sentence exactly how the Cleveland Browns are looking at it. I mean you made the point. Look, Dylan Gabriel is picked in the third round ahead of him for a reason. They clearly thought he was a better prospect and a better player and had the attention to be a better quarterback. Now that's not to sit here and say that mishad Or Sanders can't go in there and now play them. He can and he has that opportunity. But when you look at it on the surface, if his name wasn't Sanders and it was something else, he'd be a fifth round pick that everybody would sit there and say, oh, boy, I hope he plays well enough to maybe even make the team. That's the reality of it. And now they're talking about, like you said, going past Dylan Gabriel, going past Picket, going past Joe Flacco. I mean, let's get real. And sometimes, you know, we put so much into this stuff before the process, and when the guy goes in the fifth round, everybody goes, oh, he got it. Nobody they didn't draft him because of his dad. They didn't draft them because of this. They didn't draft them because it fits around, because that's what they thought of them. You know, I was on with a guy when they did draft him, one of our analysts, and he said, oh, they got one over on Pittsburgh. I said, they got one over on Pittsburgh. If Pittsburgh wanted them, they could have drafted him anytime they wanted to. Nobody wanted to pick him until the fifth round. And that's why the fifth round pick period.

He is Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, CBS Sports HQ analyst, also a columnist for CBS Sports as well too, and you can get him on ex at Prisco CBS. All right, so then let me ask you this because Russell Wilson, speaking of Pittsburgh, was the Steelers quarterback last year. He goes on with this podcast with Carmelo Anthony. He's talking about all the reasons that he liked the Giants. You know, he's familiar with the locker room because that's where he won a super Bowl at MetLife. Malik neighbors Brian Dayball and his you know, his acumen when it comes to calling plays as an offensive mind. Isn't though, the real reason that he's in New York with the Giants because the Steelers didn't want him anymore.

He is Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, CBS Sports HQ analyst, also a columnist for CBS Sports as well too, and you can get him on ex at Prisco CBS. All right, so then let me ask you this because Russell Wilson, speaking of Pittsburgh, was the Steelers quarterback last year. He goes on with this podcast with Carmelo Anthony. He's talking about all the reasons that he liked the Giants. You know, he's familiar with the locker room because that's where he won a super Bowl at MetLife. Malik neighbors Brian Dayball and his you know, his acumen when it comes to calling plays as an offensive mind. Isn't though, the real reason that he's in New York with the Giants because the Steelers didn't want him anymore.

Nor did anybody else except for the Giants. I mean, let's be real. And by the way, the whole locker room thing, give me a break. I won a super Bowl there, so I'm familiar with it. Well that's why you went there, Come on, But he said some of the weirdest stuff. It makes no sense to me. He went there because they gave him an opportunity to play and be a quarterback on their team. And maybe not for the long haul, but for right away he will be probably be their starting quarterback on opening day. And so that's why you went there. Why can't you just say that. Why can't I just be honest about it. I didn't have a lot of opportunities elsewhere. The Steelers didn't want me back, and I decided to go to the Giants. And that's fine, that's what you did. But don't say it's because of the locker room and you had elite neighbors and everything else. They wanted you. You came to a deal, you went there. It had nothing to do with anything else.

Nor did anybody else except for the Giants. I mean, let's be real. And by the way, the whole locker room thing, give me a break. I won a super Bowl there, so I'm familiar with it. Well that's why you went there, Come on, But he said some of the weirdest stuff. It makes no sense to me. He went there because they gave him an opportunity to play and be a quarterback on their team. And maybe not for the long haul, but for right away he will be probably be their starting quarterback on opening day. And so that's why you went there. Why can't you just say that. Why can't I just be honest about it. I didn't have a lot of opportunities elsewhere. The Steelers didn't want me back, and I decided to go to the Giants. And that's fine, that's what you did. But don't say it's because of the locker room and you had elite neighbors and everything else. They wanted you. You came to a deal, you went there. It had nothing to do with anything else.

Pete bringing that fult today.

Pete bringing that fult today.

I mean, let's what did Russell Wilson do to you, Peet?

I mean, let's what did Russell Wilson do to you, Peet?

Nothing? I just I just I just always look, I look, I'll be honest with you. Back in the day, I always thought he was a little overrated. And uh and and you know, I kind of stood in that hill and he had a couple of good years and people came back at me, and and then the reality is is he has been overrated. So just you are what you are. You know, look, he's a good, solid quarterback. I never thought he was a great quarterback. And so sometimes, like I say, he had the top scoring defense in the league four straight years in Seattle. You know, the last team to do that was the fifties dynasty of the Browns. I mean, it makes playing quarterback a lot easier. And and based on that, one time I went around asking a lot of quarterbacks that summer, what would you rather have the top rank scoring defense, or or two good wide receivers, And every single one of them said the top rank.

Nothing? I just I just I just always look, I look, I'll be honest with you. Back in the day, I always thought he was a little overrated. And uh and and you know, I kind of stood in that hill and he had a couple of good years and people came back at me, and and then the reality is is he has been overrated. So just you are what you are. You know, look, he's a good, solid quarterback. I never thought he was a great quarterback. And so sometimes, like I say, he had the top scoring defense in the league four straight years in Seattle. You know, the last team to do that was the fifties dynasty of the Browns. I mean, it makes playing quarterback a lot easier. And and based on that, one time I went around asking a lot of quarterbacks that summer, what would you rather have the top rank scoring defense, or or two good wide receivers, And every single one of them said the top rank.

Scoringah, it makes your life easier, absolutely. Pete uh speaking of top scoring, what's your take on Stephan diggs Man? Like, start wherever you want to start, and wherever you like, you know, you take it how you want to take it.

Scoringah, it makes your life easier, absolutely. Pete uh speaking of top scoring, what's your take on Stephan diggs Man? Like, start wherever you want to start, and wherever you like, you know, you take it how you want to take it.

Come on, come on, tucy man, come.

Come on, come on, tucy man, come.

On, come on, what is he doing? First off, why would you even be around if that is indeed what that was? And we don't know that's what it was. It sure looked like it. But if it was, why even be around it? I mean, they you know, if he was not doing it, which is you know, probably maybe he did. Maybe he'll testament find out. But why would you if that's what that was, why would you be in your even be around it? It makes no sense. Why would you be the one handing it out? I don't get it. And I know, look, you get caught up in the in the whole Hollywood lifestyle and whatever, and and you get two enamored into that and maybe, maybe, just maybe he wasn't doing it. He just got caught up in and handed it off. Who knows, But he's got to be better than that. And not only that, you're coming off the thirty one and you're coming off a major injury, I mean thirty one and coming off a major injury wide receiver is never a good thing. It's never a good thing when you have stuff going on as well. So it was an ugly look for him, h you know, And should it have happened? No, But again, we don't know what that was. We have an idea you think it is, but we I'm you know, I've never seen that stuff, and neither of any of you, I would imagine, So I just you know, who knows. And by the way, I did do research on it, just to look it up. It didn't cocaine. You know, people think it's pink cocaine. That's not what it is.

On, come on, what is he doing? First off, why would you even be around if that is indeed what that was? And we don't know that's what it was. It sure looked like it. But if it was, why even be around it? I mean, they you know, if he was not doing it, which is you know, probably maybe he did. Maybe he'll testament find out. But why would you if that's what that was, why would you be in your even be around it? It makes no sense. Why would you be the one handing it out? I don't get it. And I know, look, you get caught up in the in the whole Hollywood lifestyle and whatever, and and you get two enamored into that and maybe, maybe, just maybe he wasn't doing it. He just got caught up in and handed it off. Who knows, But he's got to be better than that. And not only that, you're coming off the thirty one and you're coming off a major injury, I mean thirty one and coming off a major injury wide receiver is never a good thing. It's never a good thing when you have stuff going on as well. So it was an ugly look for him, h you know, And should it have happened? No, But again, we don't know what that was. We have an idea you think it is, but we I'm you know, I've never seen that stuff, and neither of any of you, I would imagine, So I just you know, who knows. And by the way, I did do research on it, just to look it up. It didn't cocaine. You know, people think it's pink cocaine. That's not what it is.

Well, I was going to ask your pete, like when whatever you do to see like, what are the side effects?

Well, I was going to ask your pete, like when whatever you do to see like, what are the side effects?

Is it similar to what you know?

Is it similar to what you know?

All right, party all night and get up the next day and do it all over again. I mean, it's like you know, no, I read, I read, I read, I read what it was. You know what it is. It's it's like some synthetic drug that has ketamine in it and like Molly, and it keeps you up all night partying and everything else. And I just don't know. I don't understand why he would even be around that. It makes no sense to me. So, I mean, I could see when he gave it away. I saw how happy is his audience was, so maybe that had something to do with it. But I just don't understand why he would even be around that. And by the way, I want to see how the Patriots handle this, because remember it's Mike Rabel. It's a whole new regime, and you know they're not going to tolerate anything. Well, we'll see, because he wandered onto the practice field yesterday and didn't seem like there are any repercussions, did there.

All right, party all night and get up the next day and do it all over again. I mean, it's like you know, no, I read, I read, I read, I read what it was. You know what it is. It's it's like some synthetic drug that has ketamine in it and like Molly, and it keeps you up all night partying and everything else. And I just don't know. I don't understand why he would even be around that. It makes no sense to me. So, I mean, I could see when he gave it away. I saw how happy is his audience was, so maybe that had something to do with it. But I just don't understand why he would even be around that. And by the way, I want to see how the Patriots handle this, because remember it's Mike Rabel. It's a whole new regime, and you know they're not going to tolerate anything. Well, we'll see, because he wandered onto the practice field yesterday and didn't seem like there are any repercussions, did there.

Jordan Schultz's buddy Ian Rappafort said that they're not expected to release Stefon Diggs. You know, they don't expect for him to get cut or anything like that.

Jordan Schultz's buddy Ian Rappafort said that they're not expected to release Stefon Diggs. You know, they don't expect for him to get cut or anything like that.

So I don't know.

So I don't know.

I wouldn't, no, I wouldn't. But the only thing that would get him cut would be if he didn't look like Stefan Diggs. Yeah, that's real. I mean that the reality is, you know. And look, he was in Buffalo. He was a pain of the ass. And I can tell you this from being there and last summer they were thought it was additioned by subtraction. When he was gone, I mean, he became, you know, a guy that wanted the ball all the time, and Josh Allen would you know, lock in on him and he'd hear it from him all the time. And not that they didn't have a good relationship, because they liked each other. But that gets annoying after a while, and then it bleeds over to the other receivers. I mean, go back to Gabe Davis, by the way, go back to Gave Davis in that playoff game against the Chiefs way back in the day. Remember how he looked like he was going to be an emerging star. Yea, Well, well what happened to him? Well, you know, I think he got Digs a little bit. I think he got into that, you know, in the fact that he was like, you know, I thought he had arrived and he didn't. And so he goes to Jacksonville, and you know, gets heavy, he got hurt a little bit, and one of the same player now he's out there, and so I think sometimes, you know, you like having a wide receiver who wants the ball. And by the way, they all want the ball. I mean, you know, I go back to when I covered Jacksonville back to day they had Jimmy Smith. It was a great, great, great, great receiver who would have been a Hall of Famer if his career and did derailed by you know, failed tests. And Keenan McCardell. And Keenan was great too, And I used to tell Keenan, I go, you're meaning because he wanted the ball time. Then he went to Tampa and it was keys Sean and Keenan and they won the Super Bowl. And I always used to say it was me Sean and Meanan playing wide.

I wouldn't, no, I wouldn't. But the only thing that would get him cut would be if he didn't look like Stefan Diggs. Yeah, that's real. I mean that the reality is, you know. And look, he was in Buffalo. He was a pain of the ass. And I can tell you this from being there and last summer they were thought it was additioned by subtraction. When he was gone, I mean, he became, you know, a guy that wanted the ball all the time, and Josh Allen would you know, lock in on him and he'd hear it from him all the time. And not that they didn't have a good relationship, because they liked each other. But that gets annoying after a while, and then it bleeds over to the other receivers. I mean, go back to Gabe Davis, by the way, go back to Gave Davis in that playoff game against the Chiefs way back in the day. Remember how he looked like he was going to be an emerging star. Yea, Well, well what happened to him? Well, you know, I think he got Digs a little bit. I think he got into that, you know, in the fact that he was like, you know, I thought he had arrived and he didn't. And so he goes to Jacksonville, and you know, gets heavy, he got hurt a little bit, and one of the same player now he's out there, and so I think sometimes, you know, you like having a wide receiver who wants the ball. And by the way, they all want the ball. I mean, you know, I go back to when I covered Jacksonville back to day they had Jimmy Smith. It was a great, great, great, great receiver who would have been a Hall of Famer if his career and did derailed by you know, failed tests. And Keenan McCardell. And Keenan was great too, And I used to tell Keenan, I go, you're meaning because he wanted the ball time. Then he went to Tampa and it was keys Sean and Keenan and they won the Super Bowl. And I always used to say it was me Sean and Meanan playing wide.

Hey, howing Jimmy Smith together was pretty wild though. That was pretty much.

Hey, howing Jimmy Smith together was pretty wild though. That was pretty much.

God they were. They were fantastic. Keenan McCardell, by the way, now the wide receiver coach who but who actually was there when a big part of Stephan Diggs development is a wide receiver coach of the Minnesota Viking's one of the best in the business. Uh, and he still would complain about not getting the football.

God they were. They were fantastic. Keenan McCardell, by the way, now the wide receiver coach who but who actually was there when a big part of Stephan Diggs development is a wide receiver coach of the Minnesota Viking's one of the best in the business. Uh, and he still would complain about not getting the football.

That's the coach, Pete, Pete, I want to ask you because this seems like a bunch of crap to me. Kyle Pitts has an undisclosed injury and is not working out with the Atlanta Falcons. And I think they're keeping him safe because they're trying to trade him.

That's the coach, Pete, Pete, I want to ask you because this seems like a bunch of crap to me. Kyle Pitts has an undisclosed injury and is not working out with the Atlanta Falcons. And I think they're keeping him safe because they're trying to trade him.

What say you?

What say you?

They are trying to trade him and uh, but you know what, there there's I don't think there's going to be as a robust to market as they think it might be out there. And look, everybody thought Kyle Pitts had the tools, the talent, the skills to be a big time tight end in this league. But he's not tough. Let's be real. I mean that that's the knock on him around the league. He's not tough, and that they concerned about that, and so I want you want to you know, he gets knocked around a little bit and that's that's that's the knock on him around the league. And so yeah, I don't think he has an injury. I think they're sitting him on the sideline and uh and letting them hope somebody makes a move. To go get him. And and by the way, there's some guys that you know, Jalen Ramsey's sitting there to be traded too. I mean, Miami totally bots Miami boughts that situation. Miami did. Miami gave him a new contract last year, then paid them a four million dollar roster bonus in March, and now they want to trade them. Miami's a disaster that team. They gave out all these extensions last year, threw them around like nothing, and they're a disaster. And now Jalen Ramsey is sitting there. Who's going to trade for Jalen Ramsey in that contract unless Miami eats a bunch of it? And will they be willing to eat a bunch of it?