15 Minutes with the Boss

When it comes to the rise of artificial intelligence in the workplace, Sam Nickless, the chief executive of law firm Gilbert + Tobin, has some useful advice for lawyers and executives in the early or middle stages of their careers. "The first level of advice is don’t freak out about it, but don’t ignore it either," he says. "Get really good at using it, but also be very attuned to the things that it doesn’t do and that you can do over and above it." On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out what the top lawyer thinks of AI disruption, how it will affect the legal profession and the best way lawyers can protect their jobs. This podcast was sponsored by Ripple. Further reading: Why giving up control was Lune founder Kate Reid’s best business move An eating disorder shaped the croissant queen’s career. A piece of advice from her father is also one of the secrets to her company’s success. Daniel Mookhey: My younger self would hate my respect for John Howard The NSW treasurer opens up about failure, conflict, his political heroes – and why he hates waking up early.

Growing up, Kate Reid had always dreamt about working in Formula 1. And in her early 20s, she achieved that dream by joining the Williams team as an aerodynamicist. But this F1 enthusiast quickly realised the job was not all she'd hoped. "I imagined it would be an incredibly dynamic, collaborative, exciting job, and all of those things didn't come to fruition for me, and it sent me down a pretty dark path," says Reid. On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out how this aerodynamicist applied her scientific rigor to become one of Australia's most well-known pastry chefs. This podcast was sponsored by Ripple. Further reading: Daniel Mookhey: My younger self would hate my respect for John Howard The NSW treasurer opens up about failure, conflict, his political heroes – and why he hates waking up early. The email that cost this top exec a major deal Esther Colwill, president of Asia-Pacific at Korn Ferry, loved her job at Deloitte – and then she had twins.

As a teenager, NSW Treasurer Daniel Mookhey loved federal budget day. “I’m not saying I was popular at high school, but I used to love it when [former Liberal treasurers] Peter Costello and John Howard would hand down the budget,” the self-confessed nerd says. As a 16-year-old, he may not have liked the Liberal grandees’ politics, but these days Mookhey “is a little bit more sympathetic and understanding of where they were coming from". On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the Labor politician to find out what eight years of opposition taught him, and the one piece of advice he would give his younger self. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband. Further reading: The email that cost this top exec a major deal Esther Colwill, president of Asia-Pacific at Korn Ferry, loved her job at Deloitte – and then she had twins. Do what others won’t do: AFL great Chris Judd’s formula for success The former sports star and founder and portfolio manager of Cerutty Macro Fund has one career rule.

From a young age, Esther Colwill, a former partner at Deloitte and now country head for Australia at Korn Ferry, dreamt of climbing the highest peaks on each of the seven continents, including, of course, Mount Everest. Colwill succeeded, emerging with critical lessons that have helped her in both her private and professional life. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out how having a goal outside work spurred on this executive’s professional career. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband. Further reading: Do what others won’t do: AFL great Chris Judd’s formula for success The former sports star and founder and portfolio manager of Cerutty Macro Fund has one rule that changed the course of his career. This exec left banking to buy a caravan park. Now he runs an empire Grant Wilckens co-founded G’day Group in 2004 and never looked back – apart from the time when he could have lost everything.

Asked about a pivotal moment in his career, former AFL star Chris Judd is quick to respond: don’t do what everyone else is doing. “[The pivotal moment] was taking complete control over my fitness program,” says Judd. In business, Judd, who is the founder and portfolio manager of Cerutty Macro Fund, a concentrated equities fund that invests primarily in smaller companies, applied the same rule – and it changed the course of his career. On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out how the former West Coast Eagles captain secured a premiership, two Brownlow Medals and is now tackling the world of small caps. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband. Further reading: AFL great turned stockpicker Chris Judd just made 20pc returns One of the greatest to play Aussie rules, Judd has kicked off a second career in fund management buying ASX small-cap stocks.  ‘The phone stopped ringing’: How retirement shock hit this Olympian In 2016, former Opals star player and Olympic medallist Lauren Jackson was forced to retire. Since then, her life has taken several turns.

"I had everything on the wire, on the line," says Grant Wilckens, remembering when the global financial crisis hit. The chief executive and founder of G'Day Group had started his holiday parks business in 2004 when Lehman Brothers collapsed. "It was probably the hardest I've ever worked, the most stressed I've ever been." On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the former investment banker to find out how he survived the GFC, the lessons it taught him and how it fundamentally changed his business. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband. Further reading: The key trait private equity looks for when hiring a CEO Thomson Reuters president Steve Hasker shares HR tips and why the soaring cost of AI tokens might just save your job. Fasting, coffee and no chores: A Young Rich Lister’s success formula Oscar Ledlin reveals the secrets of his success, including where his best ideas come from, his morning routine and the advice he almost always ignores.

“I've really changed my relationship with exercise over the past few years”, says Katie Lyndon, the chief executive of Exercise and Sports Science Australia. The exercise physiologist has made a conscious effort to shift her mindset around workout routines from something she has to do to something she loves. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with Lyndon to find out how she designed a workout program that provides physical, mental and professional benefits. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband. Further reading: Inside Ahmed Fahour’s high-performance morning routine The chief executive of Gurner Group and former boss of Australia Post says the way he starts his day has been “transformational”. Morning sun, and eat your vegies first: 19 habits for a healthier life Exercise and nutrition are vital, but which specific habits offer the greatest bang for buck? Five doctors and a physiologist share their top longevity secrets. The 20-minute ‘power’ fix missing from midlife workouts Muscle power helps us perform basic everyday tasks but declines twice as quickly as strength during the ageing process.

The president and CEO of Thomson Reuters says the company has had "bill shock this year in the tens of millions of US dollars over and above our budget”. And while Steve Hasker maintains the global technology and information firm, which is valued at $US40 billion ($57 billion), is disciplined financially, the costs are rising. This week, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with Hasker to find out how the company is navigating these technological advancements and the benefits of making career mistakes. This podcast was sponsored by the City of Parramatta. Further reading: AI bill shock: Corporates revolt against costly models AI usage is paid in tokens that represent how difficult a given task is, but the cost per token varies wildly for different models. Five CEOs reveal the best piece of career advice they’ve ever received The start of a new year is an opportunity to set fresh goals, create new routines and map out work objectives. Five business leaders share their morning routines and tips for getting ahead. Use of AI ‘tech stacks’ driving demand for lawyers The more artificial intelligence is used within a law firm, the more professionals are needed to vet the technology’s outputs.

How I Made It is back with host Lauren Sams.  Don’t miss season six as we uncover how Australia’s top entrepreneurs built their fortunes and what they learnt along the way.

In 2016, former Opals star player and Olympic medallist Lauren Jackson was forced to retire. She had had 17 knee operations and could not get on top of her injury. “At that point, I was really aware that my identity as a basketball player was gone,” the now-chief strategy and basketball partnerships officer for the WNBL Australia recalls. Since then, Jackson’s life on and off the court has taken several turns. In this week's episode, the former basketball player tells BOSS editor Sally Patten about the challenges she faced when she retired for the first and second time, and how she forged a new career path after exiting the sport. This podcast was sponsored by the City of Parramatta. Further reading: Ex-Opals star on the secret weapon transforming women’s sport Lauren Jackson is now leading strategy for the Womenʼs National Basketball League and she has a front-row seat to the money flowing into the game. How this four-time Olympian and CEO handles high-stress situations From injury heartbreak to Earthletica co-founder, Bronte Campbell shares the radical shift in goal-setting that fuelled her transition from elite sport to start-up. Basketball-playing MD: ‘We get hit in the face and we get back up again’ Humanity Health Group’s Dr Kylie Henderson has been playing the sport since primary school. Here’s how the game has shaped her management style. She answers our Time Out Q&A.

Oscar Ledlin is just 34 years old, but last year he was ranked number 55 on the Financial Review Young Rich List with a fortune valued at $123 million. The founder and chief executive of the Ledlin Group started the company after seeing a gap in the market for small commercial properties during the e-commerce boom. In this episode, the property entrepreneur sits down with BOSS editor Sally Patten and reveals the secrets to his success, including where his best ideas come from and the piece of advice he almost always ignores. This podcast was sponsored by the City of Parramatta. Further reading: Young property entrepreneur gets set in green concrete start-up Oscar Ledlin, who ranks number 55 on the Young Rich List, has launched a company specialising in sustainable concrete production, with ambitions to IPO. This developer cracked the Young Rich List by making warehouses sexy Oscar Ledlin has tapped into the Instagram generation to build his fast-growing commercial property empire, but there have been stumbles along the way. Billionaire property whisperer Monika Tu spills her secrets Ready to retire at 45, everything changed for this immigrant from humble beginnings when she met her third husband – and discovered her purpose.

Communications expert Louise Mahler has spent years helping leaders gain confidence, presence, and influence in the way they communicate. However, since the pandemic and the rapid increase of online platforms, Mahler believes people are losing the ability to engage with audiences. But she's hopeful that connection can be restored. On this week's episode, the former opera singers reveals her top public speaking tips to BOSS editor Sally Patten. This podcast was sponsored by the City of Parramatta. Further reading: Want to be better at public speaking? NIDA’s CEO shares her tips Chief executive Liz Hughes has a few secrets when she is preparing a speech, such as leaving marks to show the parts that need to be delivered with high energy.  The speaking tips these execs use to own the room, and get ahead Female executives suffer from a “gravitas gap” but some are learning to project greater confidence and authority, helping them to move up the corporate ladder. ‘I’d lost my identity.’ How this exec recovered from redundancy A new coach, hypnotist and Hollywood movie helped Allison Rossiter tackle one of her biggest fears. Now, the Novartis president shares how they can help you too.  

Stuart Gregor has always been a keen storyteller. From his first job working in journalism as a copy boy to co-founding craft gin brand Four Pillars, this entrepreneur has used his skills to build brands and their narratives. Now the chief executive of ASX-listed Lark Distillery, the whisky boss is having to tell a new type of story to analysts and fund managers. In this week's episode, Gregor tells BOSS editor Sally Patten about the various challenges of speaking to consumers, the industry and now the market. Further reading: Whisky maker Lark hires Four Pillars Gin co-founder as CEO The Tasmanian company’s product will be in 700-millilitre bottles for the first time in 33 years as it tackles global brands such as Johnnie Walker. Four Pillars Gin sold to XXXX’s Japanese owner The brewing giant behind names such as Furphy and Little Creatures has snapped up the other half of the distiller for an estimated $50 million. He may not be a ‘whisky guy’, but Larry Emdur’s single malt is good as gold It began as a bit of birthday fun for the TV personality, but in just two years, The Ben Buckler has become a multi-award-winning brand with an impressive new CEO.

“We’ve had a number of years when there was a huge emphasis on people’s work-life balance. Now it’s about performance,” says Chris Karagounis. The managing director at executive search firm Alex Kaar says working in the office allows budding leaders to contribute to the culture and community, and to keep learning. And if they're not there, then they risk falling behind. On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out from the corporate headhunter what it takes to be a senior leader today, and how aspiring executives should approach issues such as working from home and artificial intelligence. Further reading: Four steps to land your first board position The step into the boardroom is an important milestone, and something many ambitious professionals dream about. But how do you make it happen? How I convinced Kerry Packer he should hire me Mary Wooldridge, outgoing CEO of the Workplace Gender Equality Agency, worked for the media tycoon in the late 1990s. She’s used some of the skills she learnt ever since. Why job seekers looking for $200k-plus roles should be worried  After taking a break from her exec role, Diedre Hosking returned to a market offering $100,000 less, as firms swap veterans for cheaper, AI-literate juniors.  

When Sharon Pickering’s husband died, she realised she needed to choose where she directed her energy and focus on what mattered to her. After years of being a dedicated scholar, the academic made a decision that would set her on a path to becoming the vice chancellor of Monash University. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the university boss to find out how a new role shifted Pickering’s career to one of leadership. Further reading: ‘I’d lost my identity.’ How this exec recovered from redundancy A new coach, hypnotist and Hollywood movie helped Allison Rossiter tackle one of her biggest fears. Now, the Novartis president shares how they can help you too. Meet the researchers tackling big problems Combining knowledge and expertise across disciplines is the new face of successful research in the university sector. The move this MD calls ‘extremely hard, but I’ve never looked back’ T2 Tea managing director Christelle Young finds that by cutting out reading, writing and talking first thing in the morning, it sets up her day in the right way.

Procter & Gamble’s Australian chief executive, Neal Reed, has been with the global manufacturer for 30 years. The company behind household brands such as Pampers nappies, Gillette razors and Pantene and Head & Shoulders shampoos has long been committed to finding and developing top talent. But as the CEO has discovered, the strategy presents a temptation to push high performers too hard.  On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out how this P&G boss learnt he was overburdening senior leaders. Further reading: Why this CEO gets his advice from the 20-somethings in the office As Gen Z swells to a third of the workforce, P&G’s Australia-New Zealand CEO Neal Reed says reverse mentorship keeps him connected, skilled up and relevant. ‘I didn’t realise how far gone I was’: How this CEO survived burnout Jess Saxby, chief executive of Banjo’s Bakery Cafes, couldn’t stop. She was always chasing the next thing. Until she couldn’t any more. ‘Do you have five?’: This CEO’s trick for managing staff requests Stefan Leitl, vice president for Australia and New Zealand at Cisco, has to juggle family with fitting into the working hours of the US. Here’s how he does it.

He’s one of Australia’s most influential chefs and restaurateurs. But when Neil Perry was faced with the closure of his restaurant, Song Bird, he realised he’d broken his most important rule. “You've always got to be prepared to walk away," Perry says. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out what went wrong with the Double Bay restaurant, and what he’s learnt as the culinary giant prepares to open Pizzeria Spotto.

Praveena Raman, the head of Motorola in Australia and New Zealand, is a self-described yes person.  At the start of her career as an engineer, the “say yes to everything” mindset opened doors to pivotal opportunities that would set her on the path to becoming an executive. But a crucial piece of advice also made the smartphone boss realise the importance of saying no. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the country head of the eighth-largest smartphone manufacturer globally to find out why she decided to shift her mindset.

One of Anubha Sahasrabuddhe’s proudest moments was getting Chinese consumers to drink Coca-Cola – and lots of it. Earlier in her career, Sahasrabuddhe, now the chief executive of brewing giant Lion, was asked to go to China in the run-up to the Beijing Olympics and take on the competition, Pepsi. Sahasrabuddhe’s stint was a success, but there were also failures. The experience led the chief executive to adopt a strategy she says the tech industry has mastered. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the boss of Australia’s second biggest brewing company to find out how past mistakes have shaped future wins.

Mary Wooldridge, the outgoing chief executive of the Workplace Gender Equality Agency, worked for the media tycoon in the late 1990s.  While her time at Kerry Packer's company, Consolidated Press Holdings, taught her some invaluable skills, Wooldridge found it unmotivating. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out why the former politician traded a Packer deal-making role for public policy.

When Allison Rossiter was offered a dream job, she had just one hesitation: she was terrified of public speaking. But not wanting to walk away from the opportunity, the budding executive asked for a public speaking coach. On this week’s episode, the president for Novartis in Australia and New Zealand tells BOSS editor Sally Patten how a new coach, a hypnotist and a Hollywood movie helped her tackle one of her biggest fears.

For any arts production, reviews are a crucial metric of success. But for Brett Sheehy, what the critics have to say means very little. For him, it’s all about the audience. On this week’s episode, Vivid Sydney's festival director tells BOSS editor Sally Patten how he's determined his own way of measuring success.

As the managing director of Franklin Templeton in Australia and New Zealand, Felicity Walsh has done her fair share of job interviews. In that time, the local head of the global asset manager has figured out what candidates should – and should not – do during the process. This week, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the top executive to find out her tips on researching prospective employers and potential interviewees, and when to ask about working from home.

The chief executive of Gurner Group and former boss of Australia Post says his morning routine has been transformational. Ahmed Fahour says he now thinks more clearly, has lost 13 kilograms over the past two years and has discovered the best productivity hack: sleep. On this week's episode, the top executive tells BOSS editor Sally Patten how a new start to the day has helped drive high performance at work.

Vikram Pawah has loved cars since he was a child. Or more specifically, engines. From Honda to Harley Davidson and now BMW, the chief executive has worked for some of the biggest car and motorcycle brands in the world. And it was through motorcycle riding that the luxury car company CEO learnt how to avoid making rash decisions: “Sometimes what your reflex is telling you is the wrong thing in motorcycle riding – it might make you crash.” On this week’s episode, the CEO of BMW in Australia and New Zealand sits down with BOSS editor Sally Patten to explain how the “sleep test” helps him make tough decisions.

When Jess Saxby became the chief executive of Banjo’s Bakery Cafes, she went "hell for leather". Taking over the family business, the new CEO was always chasing the next big thing for the chain. Until she realised she couldn't switch off. On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the bakery boss to find out how Saxby overcame burnout and the boundaries she's put in place since.

Turning around a business never comes down to just one thing, says Shane Bracken.  The chief executive of Subway in Australia and New Zealand believes three key steps have been critical to expanding the sandwich brand across the country. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out how this CEO continues to grow the largest fast-food chain in Australia.

The founder of online retailer Kogan.com firmly believes that mistakes are an “additional asset” that any company can learn from. But the entrepreneur says there was one “existential mistake” he made that stands out. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the chief executive to find out how he came to value decision-making and the missteps along the way.

Lisa Chiba’s first executive role was “a bit of a rollercoaster”.  After starting in the role of customer service director, the company entered a divestment process – making the entire workforce redundant.  It was an experience that would give the now-Momentum Energy CEO some of big lessons on communication and transparency. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the chief executive to find out about the skills that helped Chiba navigate the path to executive leadership.

When it comes to banking, Joseph Healy has seen it all.  After a long career holding executive positions at NAB, ANZ and Citi, the high-profile banker co-founded Australia’s first fintech unicorn, Judo Bank. And beyond the world of financial services, the chief executive also started mental health group Malu Health last year. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out what drives this CEO and the most valuable lessons he’s learnt along the way. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband.

Art Gallery of NSW director Maud Page says one of her biggest failures was not speaking up enough early in her career. “I’ve always spoken up if I thought there was an injustice, but one that I feel was a failure was when I fell pregnant," the gallery's chief executive says. On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with Page to find out about the early challenges she faced before taking on the state's top arts job – and the ones she's navigated since. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband.    

When Sanjeev Gandhi was called into the office of German chemical company BASF’s managing director, the young salesman was “tentative and concerned”. It was a meeting that would go on to change the course of his career. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the CEO of mining services giant Orica to find out how an unexpected opportunity paved the way to executive leadership. This week’s episode was sponsored by Aussie Broadband.

Three-time Olympic gold medallist Bronte Campbell knows a lot about high-stress situations. But for the co-founder and CEO of sustainable athleisure company Earthletica, there are a few techniques she draws on no matter the circumstance. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out how this athlete-turned-chief executive deals with high-stakes events – in the pool and the office. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband.

Managing director Dan White says his first day working alongside his father and brother at Australia’s largest real estate company was surreal. A fourth-generation, family-run business, Ray White dominates the country’s competitive property market. In this week’s episode of the new season of 15 Minutes with the BOSS, host Sally Patten sits down with the property leader to find out the perks and challenges of working with family.

Being in charge of one of Australia’s biggest food and drink companies was never part of Pete Findlay’s plan. But the chief executive of Bega Group knows how beloved the brands are: “Never go messing with the Vegemite recipe. We do not touch that.” In the final episode of season three of 15 Minutes with the Boss, host Sally Patten finds out what this dairy products boss has for breakfast and why it’s not just protein he's focussed on. This podcast was sponsored by Vanta.

Standing up and speaking to a room full of people is a task that many find daunting.  But there are a few tricks that can help you master the art of public speaking. On this week’s episode, National Institute of Dramatic Art CEO Liz Hughes sits down with BOSS editor Sally Patten to reveal her secrets for delivering a top address. This podcast was sponsored by Vanta.

One of the most pivotal moments in Tim Helyar’s career was when he was first put in charge of a project, running a team and a $100 million piece of work. No longer unfamiliar with positions of leadership, Helyar is now the country head of State Street, the world’s fourth-largest asset manager. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out how he’s developed his leadership style and why it’s the captain of the Australian men’s cricket team, Pat Cummins, whom he admires most. This podcast was sponsored by Vanta.

Russell Cohen has set up businesses all around the world, and one of the things he says is a constant in all markets is the fear of accountability. “The fear is real … and that’s a global phenomenon,” the chief executive of PEXA says. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the CEO of the real estate settlement giant to uncover the upsides of being candid and the cultural ramifications of evading responsibility. This podcast was sponsored by Vanta. 

Working in public health, Rita Butera admits that finding the right candidate for a role can be challenging. The CEO of BreastScreen Victoria says looking beyond technical skills is pivotal to the process. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out how this chief executive developed her approach to hiring. This podcast was sponsored by Telstra.

Celebrity chef Curtis Stone opened his first restaurant in Beverley Hills more than a decade ago, and it was immediately a smash hit. His next venture, however, quickly taught him how wrong things could go. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out the cookbook writer had to rethink his strategy to turn things around. This podcast was sponsored by Telstra. 

When Therese Frangie was working at Mexican fast-food group Mad Mex, she found herself “butting heads” with the founder. Frangie turned to a business coach to help her work through her frustrations. The coach had one word for her: ego. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out what the chief executive of Oporto learnt about ego, conflict management and leadership. This podcast was sponsored by Telstra.

When Kristian Fok became the chief executive of Cbus, he “knew there was a lot to take on”. One strategy that’s helped him manage issues as they arise is determining the length of a productive meeting. On this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out how the Cbus CEO navigates the various challenges that come with running a $105 billion super fund. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband.

Shelley Dolan is the first one to admit that a career in nursing is “stressful”, but also “hugely enjoyable”. It was during her first experience working in an executive role in the health sector that she learnt about the pressures of leadership and the importance of trusting your instincts. This week, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with Dolan to find out how the CEO of Royal Melbourne Hospital learnt to handle high-stress situations. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband.

The chief investment officer of fund manager Loftus Peak says he only gets one really good idea a year, and that it’s always about business. After looking into the rise of machine learning, Alex Pollak's “one good idea” in 2016 was to buy into Nvidia, which now boasts a market valuation of $US4 trillion ($6 trillion). This week, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out how the local tech investor spots trends to stay ahead of the curve. This podcast was sponsored byAussie Broadband.

When it comes to her morning routine, Carolyn Creswell describes herself as a bit of a “biohacker”, trying out different types of alternative therapies. But it’s not just in the mornings that the founder of Carman’s Kitchen explores new ways to get the most out of each day; the chief executive is also looking to AI to boost the company's productivity. This week, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out about the career and lifestyle hacks of this muesli boss. This podcast was sponsored by Aussie Broadband.

David Koczkar reached exhilarating heights during the launch of Jetstar, but the stressful role came at a cost.  In this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the chief executive of Medibank to find out how he learnt a new, more mindful pace of leadership. This podcast was sponsored by 5 in 5 with ANZ podcast.  

Ready to retire at 45, everything changed for Monika Tu when she met her third husband and took on a whole new career. In this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the founder of property concierge Black Diamondz Group to find out how the celebrity agent rose to the top of luxury real estate. This podcast was sponsored by 5 in 5 with ANZ podcast.

How I Made It is back with new hosts Lauren Sams & Yolanda Redrup. Join us to learn how Australia’s top entrepreneurs built their fortunes and what they learnt along the way.

The CEO of Baby Bunting thought he’d end up in corporate finance. In this week’s episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with Mark Teperson to find out how a chance retail sale changed the trajectory of his career. This podcast was sponsored by 5 in 5 with ANZ podcast.

Clayton Utz chief executive partner Emma Covacevich always tells her grads to keep an open mind: sometimes your career “true love” can arrive in unexpected places. This week, the leader of one of Australia’s top-tier law firms speaks to BOSS editor Sally Patten about how an unexpected move to Melbourne helped propel her to partner at the age of 29. This podcast was sponsored by 5 in 5 with ANZ podcast.