When Jess Saxby became the chief executive of Banjo’s Bakery Cafes, she went "hell for leather".

Taking over the family business, the new CEO was always chasing the next big thing for the chain. Until she realised she couldn't switch off.

On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the bakery boss to find out how Saxby overcame burnout and the boundaries she's put in place since.

When Jess Saxby became the chief executive of Banjo&rsquo;s Bakery Cafes, she went "hell for leather".
Taking over the family business, the new CEO was always chasing the next big thing for the chain. Until she realised she couldn't switch off.
On this week's episode, <a href="https://www.afr.com/boss">BOSS</a> editor Sally Patten sits down with the bakery boss to find out how Saxby overcame burnout and the boundaries she's put in place since.

15 Minutes with the Boss is a podcast that gives listeners exclusive access to some of the top CEOs in the country.

Each week AFR BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with a prominent leader and asks them to share the invaluable advice and wisdom they have accumulated throughout their careers.

For stories of success and failure and everything in-between, search and follow 15 Minutes with the Boss. It’s 15 minutes you can’t afford to miss. 

15 Minutes with the Boss is a podcast that gives listeners exclusive access to some of the top CEOs in the country.
Each week AFR BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with a prominent leader and asks them to share the invaluable advice and wisdom they have accumulated throughout their careers.
For stories of success and failure and everything in-between, search and follow 15 Minutes with the Boss. It’s 15 minutes you can’t afford to miss.

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15 Minutes with the Boss is a podcast that gives listeners exclusive access to some of the top CEOs in the country. 

Each week, AFR BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with a prominent leader and asks them to share the invaluable advice and wisdom they have accumulated throughout their careers.

For stories of success and failure and everything in-between, search and follow 15 Minutes with the Boss. It’s 15 minutes you can’t afford to miss. 

15 Minutes with the Boss is a podcast that gives listeners exclusive access to some of the top CEOs in the country. 
Each week, AFR BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with a prominent leader and asks them to share the invaluable advice and wisdom they have accumulated throughout their careers.
For stories of success and failure and everything in-between, search and follow 15 Minutes with the Boss. It’s 15 minutes you can’t afford to miss.

‘I didn’t realise how far gone I was’: How this CEO survived burnout

Akubra chief executive Natalie Culina has over 20 years working with some of the most recognised and iconic Australian brands.

When managing imposter syndrome she says that "you cannot forget that you have to master a skill in something, have to have a black belt in something. And that's something that you can always reach down into your core to draw upon". When she did, it faded away.

On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with Culina to find out who is in her inner circle, how she overcame imposter syndrome and the one reason she will interrupt a meeting.

This podcast was sponsored by Ripple.

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‘One of the worst markets I’ve seen’: Property CEO fears job cuts


Jellis Craig head Andrew McCann reveals what it’s like inside the real estate downturn and why agents are having to deliver hard truths to sellers.

What this top lawyer wishes he had done early in his career

Sam Nickless, chief executive of Gilbert +Tobin, says young lawyers and executives have more control over their time than they think.

Akubra chief executive Natalie Culina has over 20 years working with some of the most recognised and iconic Australian brands.
When managing imposter syndrome she says that "you cannot forget that you have to master a skill in something, have to have a black belt in something. And that's something that you can always reach down into your core to draw upon". When she did, it faded away.
On this week's episode, <a href="https://www.afr.com/boss">BOSS</a> editor Sally Patten sits down with Culina to find out who is in her inner circle, how she overcame imposter syndrome and the one reason she will interrupt a meeting.
This podcast was sponsored by <a href="https://ripple.com/">Ripple</a>.
Further reading:
<a href="https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/one-of-the-worst-markets-i-ve-seen-property-ceo-fears-job-cuts-20260922-p60ymv?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=15_minutes_with_the_boss&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">&lsquo;One of the worst markets I&rsquo;ve seen&rsquo;: Property CEO fears job cuts</a> 
Jellis Craig head Andrew McCann reveals what it&rsquo;s like inside the real estate downturn and why agents are having to deliver hard truths to sellers.
<a href="https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/what-this-top-lawyer-wishes-he-had-done-early-in-his-career-20260914-p60x7n?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=15_minutes_with_the_boss&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">What this top lawyer wishes he had done early in his career</a>
Sam Nickless, chief executive of Gilbert +Tobin, says young lawyers and executives have more control over their time than they think.

How this CEO shook off imposter syndrome

Jellis Craig chief executive Andrew McCann has been a real estate agent for almost 30 years, and he reckons "this is one of the worst markets" he's ever seen.

"It's very hard for vendors to adjust to price changes, and it's very hard sometimes for agents to pick up the pace of change," he says. "And because of that, it's a challenging environment to navigate."

On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten sits down with the real estate boss to find out how he is navigating the property downturn, the effect it's having on staff and whether he expects it to change any time soon.

This podcast was sponsored by Ripple.

Further reading:

What this top lawyer wishes he had done early in his career

Sam Nickless, chief executive of Gilbert +Tobin, says young lawyers and executives have more control over their time than they think.

Why giving up control was Lune founder Kate Reid’s best business move

An eating disorder shaped the croissant queen’s career. A piece of advice from her father is also one of the secrets to her company’s success.

Jellis Craig chief executive Andrew McCann&nbsp;has been a real estate agent for almost 30 years, and he reckons "this is one of the worst markets" he's ever seen.
"It's very hard for vendors to adjust to price changes, and it's very hard sometimes for agents to pick up the pace of change," he says. "And because of that, it's a challenging environment to navigate."
On this week's episode, <a href="https://www.afr.com/boss">BOSS</a> editor Sally Patten sits down with the real estate boss to find out how he is navigating the property downturn, the effect it's having on staff and whether he expects it to change any time soon.
This podcast was sponsored by <a href="https://ripple.com/">Ripple</a>.
Further reading:
<a href="https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/what-this-top-lawyer-wishes-he-had-done-early-in-his-career-20260914-p60x7n?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=15_minutes_with_the_boss&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">What this top lawyer wishes he had done early in his career</a>
Sam Nickless, chief executive of Gilbert +Tobin, says young lawyers and executives have more control over their time than they think.
<a href="https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/croissant-queen-kate-reid-on-the-secrets-to-lune-s-success-20260907-p60v18?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=15_minutes_with_the_boss&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">Why giving up control was Lune founder Kate Reid&rsquo;s best business move</a>
An eating disorder shaped the croissant queen&rsquo;s career. A piece of advice from her father is also one of the secrets to her company&rsquo;s success.

‘One of the worst markets I’ve seen’: Property CEO fears job cuts

When it comes to the rise of artificial intelligence in the workplace, Sam Nickless, the chief executive of law firm Gilbert + Tobin, has some useful advice for lawyers and executives in the early or middle stages of their careers.

"The first level of advice is don’t freak out about it, but don’t ignore it either," he says.

"Get really good at using it, but also be very attuned to the things that it doesn’t do and that you can do over and above it."

On this week's episode, BOSS editor Sally Patten finds out what the top lawyer thinks of AI disruption, how it will affect the legal profession and the best way lawyers can protect their jobs.

This podcast was sponsored by Ripple.

Further reading:

Why giving up control was Lune founder Kate Reid’s best business move

An eating disorder shaped the croissant queen’s career. A piece of advice from her father is also one of the secrets to her company’s success.

Daniel Mookhey: My younger self would hate my respect for John Howard

The NSW treasurer opens up about failure, conflict, his political heroes – and why he hates waking up early.

When it comes to the rise of artificial intelligence in the workplace, Sam Nickless, the chief executive of law firm Gilbert + Tobin, has some useful advice for lawyers and executives in the early or middle stages of their careers.
"The first level of advice is don&rsquo;t freak out about it, but don&rsquo;t ignore it either," he says.
"Get really good at using it, but also be very attuned to the things that it doesn&rsquo;t do and that you can do over and above it."
On this week's episode, <a href="https://www.afr.com/boss">BOSS</a> editor Sally Patten finds out what the top lawyer thinks of AI disruption, how it will affect the legal profession and the best way lawyers can protect their jobs.
This podcast was sponsored by <a href="https://ripple.com/">Ripple</a>.
Further reading:
<a href="https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/croissant-queen-kate-reid-on-the-secrets-to-lune-s-success-20260907-p60v18?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=15_minutes_with_the_boss&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">Why giving up control was Lune founder Kate Reid&rsquo;s best business move</a>
An eating disorder shaped the croissant queen&rsquo;s career. A piece of advice from her father is also one of the secrets to her company&rsquo;s success.
<a href="https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/daniel-mookhey-my-younger-self-would-hate-my-respect-for-john-howard-20260831-p60t2u?utm_source=omny&amp;utm_medium=podcast_notes&amp;utm_campaign=15_minutes_with_the_boss&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=newsroom">Daniel Mookhey: My younger self would hate my respect for John Howard</a>
The NSW treasurer opens up about failure, conflict, his political heroes &ndash; and why he hates waking up early.

‘I didn’t realise how far gone I was’: How this CEO survived burnout

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