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I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know that our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife on our time together. Today, you'll meet Amy Call, who had a profound near death experience as a result of an allergic reaction to medication She gained much wisdom from the other side, including how our world mirrors the afterlife, the importance of our humanly experiences, and she even met a young woman in the afterlife whose words she used to comfort the mother upon her return to earth. We have to thank our friends at ians dot org for this great episode. Ions is the International Association for Near Death Studies, where you can find their yearly conference, local groups, and thousands of near death experience stories. Now let's meet Amy.

I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know that our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife on our time together. Today, you'll meet Amy Call, who had a profound near death experience as a result of an allergic reaction to medication She gained much wisdom from the other side, including how our world mirrors the afterlife, the importance of our humanly experiences, and she even met a young woman in the afterlife whose words she used to comfort the mother upon her return to earth. We have to thank our friends at ians dot org for this great episode. Ions is the International Association for Near Death Studies, where you can find their yearly conference, local groups, and thousands of near death experience stories. Now let's meet Amy.

I come from a large family, six kids, and very strong in our religion and politics. When I was about four years old, I overheard my mom down the hallway and I heard her talking about something heard the word cancer, and I didn't understand what cancer was, but I sensed in her tone that something wasn't okay. Even at a very young age, I was always very sensitive. So I heard her bringing up cancer and I go to my mom and I was asking her what is cancer? And she had to explain to me what that was, That people have cancer and sometimes bad things can happen from that. And even at a young age, I really had this strong belief in well there's a God and okay, well he can fix it. And she said, well, sometimes people aren't fixed, you know, sometimes God lets people suffer and die and sometimes it doesn't work out the way that we might want it to. And I just kept thinking, but if this person is suffering at a certain point, can't we just pray and God can fix it. So that was my first understanding that they're suffering in the world. So that was my big mind blow at age four, and it kind of sent me into a spiral because I became ultra aware after that of suffering and I almost was like a magnet to it. Now, I already had the sensitive nature where I felt one with everything, and I think this came even before that age. I had a difficult time separating myself from others, and it wasn't just people, it was animals, plants, everything that was I felt very connected. Always being so ultra aware of suffering in the world was very difficult for me because I soon realized I was responding differently than other people that I was around, and I didn't understand why, how come when we hear on the news that people in Africa are going through such and such, why is everyone not in a ball on the floor crying as if it's their own children, because to me, when I heard this is happening to the little girls there, you might as well have told me my child, my own daughter is going through this. That's how I felt it. It was so devastating. And then to live in the world where we have this access to information all the time and people are always telling us these incredible things that are going on. I just felt bombarded all the time and devastated. And I felt confused too. Like I said, I didn't understand why other people weren't responding the same. They'd go out and have a party and be laughing, and I'm thinking, didn't you hear that someone was just kidnapped? And it was kind of goring for me to be this way, And so I went through what we could call depression. Then when I was upset, it was like, oh, well, she's experiencing depression. I remember being four years old and telling my dad if things are like this, I don't want to be here. I can't handle it. I can't be in this place where there's this much suffering and it looks like God's not fixing it. And so I started becoming attracted to the idea of dying. At the same time, I had this fear come in about yes, I want to die, but I don't want to be on the other side either, because if there's a God that could allow this to happen, why would I be so excited to go there with this person like this, who had remote control to our lives, and who could favor that person and then hurt that person. I was in this in between place that was neither here nor there, and it was very upsetting for me. My mom was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and my grandmother had ankylosiane spondylitis. I was, of course close to both of them, and they both went through constant suffering and pain, and this was very difficult for me. I was especially close with my grandma went there for refuge to her home, and it was very hard for me to hear her crying and go through to the chiropractor and overhear her. I was constantly praying. I was constantly asking God, please, please, please. Once they prove that they're good, can you just please bless them and let them be free of their suffering and pain. Sometimes we'd see certain people feel better, but a lot of times I didn't see things get better. So I was always praying, and I did hear a lot. If you pray and you have faith, then the blessings come. I got to the point where, when I was about sixteen, I think the concern came in from my parents. Obviously, you know, they were concerned I was standing out in certain ways as being kind of different. It wasn't that I was just this depressed, morbid person going along. I didn't like being that way. I didn't know how else to be. I really couldn't imagine being a way where I disconnected, because that's all I could get from people. They'd say, well, just don't think about it. I thought, really, if your child is going through something that devastating, do you just not think about it. So I was sent to the psychiatrist as a teenager. At age sixteen, I was diagnosed as bipolar. After I went in and the psychiatrist handed me a worksheet, I had this fantasy that I would go in and this wise man with a nice long beard would have the answers and he would be able to explain everything to me, and he would say the reasons why and I would get it, and then I would say, oh, I get it, and things would be better. But I didn't ever get that. He just handed me the worksheet and it said things like, are you sometimes very happy? Are you sometimes very sad? Have you ever wanted to die? And yes, yes, yes, And he came back in the room and skimmed over and he said, sounds like you're bipolar. So he sent me out and I went and got my prescriptions for very heavy medication and I started in the world of being heavily medicated after that, and I felt very big difference. It's hard to put into words, but I didn't feel connected to maybe my heart or my passions. And in a way I could see like, Okay, well, maybe there's some good to this, because I can feel that I can't even care as much as I did before. But it was in a number of ways. I also lost my passion for some of the things that were beautiful and good. And at age seventeen, I woke up one morning and I felt that I couldn't breathe, and my whole body felt pulverized. It was like I had been in an accident. In fact, I didn't know what had happened, but I was sure something must have happened, and I must have forgotten. I was in bed and tried to scream because the pain was so incredible from head to toe, and I couldn't take a breath. As soon as I breathed into scream, I had to stop because my chest area, the torso, was so inflamed. I didn't dare even try to breathe in and I just started crying. And I was diagnosed to age seventeen with fibromyalgia, and they sent me home on lots of pain meds for that. And at eighteen I reached this point where I kind of hit a wall. I don't like the feeling of these medications, and then of course if i'd stop, my brain would kind of freak out because you can't just take something that heavy and then just stop, and people would say, well, see, you need your medications. So I was going back and forth and really struggling, and at eighteen we had this day where all the right factors seemed to come in at the same point, and I did hit that place where I couldn't take it anymore. It wasn't planned, it was kind of spontaneous. I just knew that I wanted to get out, and I took every pill that I could find. It almost felt animalistic. The way that I reacted it was from another place, beyond a thinking place. That wasn't where my NDE came in. But just to give you a background of where I come from, this is part of my background. So obviously I made it through that. At age twenty one, I did what I was supposed to do. I got married and I started having children, and I was trying to follow the list of what you do if you have faith, if you're doing the right things and instead of the wrong things, and if you follow what we're taught, and so I was trying to do everything, and I wanted so desperately for a change to happen with all the pain that I was in and with everyone else, with the suffering that I saw in the world. A prayer that I repeated all the time was please let me be a tool in my hands. I just wanted so badly to help with the suffering, because I really did feel one with it. And more than anything, I wanted, as I wanted to believe, there was this God that had answers. I wanted to be a tool in his hands. And I repeated this all the time. And I did believe in miracles, and I wanted this to happen, so I continued trying to do the right things and have faith. I had four children, and all the while leading through the pregnancies and what was going on, there were a number of health factors that were coming in and things were getting worse and worse, and I got to the point where I was crawling on the floor instead of walking at times because it was so painful, and holding my babies was difficult because it hurt too much to all of them, and I was frightened because I was also not sleeping. The pain was so intense and the muscle spasms I was having were so intense that at night time I got to where I would sleep for fifteen minutes and then I would have to wake up. And I'm sorry, I get emotional, but I go right back into the places that I've been, so it brings up a lot. I would have to wake up every fifteen minutes, and at a certain point I could feel my brain was just going, I can't do this. It was like I would be awake, but my brain was like I got to go to sleep. And so it was a frightening feeling to be conscious and realize my brain was just shutting down.

I come from a large family, six kids, and very strong in our religion and politics. When I was about four years old, I overheard my mom down the hallway and I heard her talking about something heard the word cancer, and I didn't understand what cancer was, but I sensed in her tone that something wasn't okay. Even at a very young age, I was always very sensitive. So I heard her bringing up cancer and I go to my mom and I was asking her what is cancer? And she had to explain to me what that was, That people have cancer and sometimes bad things can happen from that. And even at a young age, I really had this strong belief in well there's a God and okay, well he can fix it. And she said, well, sometimes people aren't fixed, you know, sometimes God lets people suffer and die and sometimes it doesn't work out the way that we might want it to. And I just kept thinking, but if this person is suffering at a certain point, can't we just pray and God can fix it. So that was my first understanding that they're suffering in the world. So that was my big mind blow at age four, and it kind of sent me into a spiral because I became ultra aware after that of suffering and I almost was like a magnet to it. Now, I already had the sensitive nature where I felt one with everything, and I think this came even before that age. I had a difficult time separating myself from others, and it wasn't just people, it was animals, plants, everything that was I felt very connected. Always being so ultra aware of suffering in the world was very difficult for me because I soon realized I was responding differently than other people that I was around, and I didn't understand why, how come when we hear on the news that people in Africa are going through such and such, why is everyone not in a ball on the floor crying as if it's their own children, because to me, when I heard this is happening to the little girls there, you might as well have told me my child, my own daughter is going through this. That's how I felt it. It was so devastating. And then to live in the world where we have this access to information all the time and people are always telling us these incredible things that are going on. I just felt bombarded all the time and devastated. And I felt confused too. Like I said, I didn't understand why other people weren't responding the same. They'd go out and have a party and be laughing, and I'm thinking, didn't you hear that someone was just kidnapped? And it was kind of goring for me to be this way, And so I went through what we could call depression. Then when I was upset, it was like, oh, well, she's experiencing depression. I remember being four years old and telling my dad if things are like this, I don't want to be here. I can't handle it. I can't be in this place where there's this much suffering and it looks like God's not fixing it. And so I started becoming attracted to the idea of dying. At the same time, I had this fear come in about yes, I want to die, but I don't want to be on the other side either, because if there's a God that could allow this to happen, why would I be so excited to go there with this person like this, who had remote control to our lives, and who could favor that person and then hurt that person. I was in this in between place that was neither here nor there, and it was very upsetting for me. My mom was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and my grandmother had ankylosiane spondylitis. I was, of course close to both of them, and they both went through constant suffering and pain, and this was very difficult for me. I was especially close with my grandma went there for refuge to her home, and it was very hard for me to hear her crying and go through to the chiropractor and overhear her. I was constantly praying. I was constantly asking God, please, please, please. Once they prove that they're good, can you just please bless them and let them be free of their suffering and pain. Sometimes we'd see certain people feel better, but a lot of times I didn't see things get better. So I was always praying, and I did hear a lot. If you pray and you have faith, then the blessings come. I got to the point where, when I was about sixteen, I think the concern came in from my parents. Obviously, you know, they were concerned I was standing out in certain ways as being kind of different. It wasn't that I was just this depressed, morbid person going along. I didn't like being that way. I didn't know how else to be. I really couldn't imagine being a way where I disconnected, because that's all I could get from people. They'd say, well, just don't think about it. I thought, really, if your child is going through something that devastating, do you just not think about it. So I was sent to the psychiatrist as a teenager. At age sixteen, I was diagnosed as bipolar. After I went in and the psychiatrist handed me a worksheet, I had this fantasy that I would go in and this wise man with a nice long beard would have the answers and he would be able to explain everything to me, and he would say the reasons why and I would get it, and then I would say, oh, I get it, and things would be better. But I didn't ever get that. He just handed me the worksheet and it said things like, are you sometimes very happy? Are you sometimes very sad? Have you ever wanted to die? And yes, yes, yes, And he came back in the room and skimmed over and he said, sounds like you're bipolar. So he sent me out and I went and got my prescriptions for very heavy medication and I started in the world of being heavily medicated after that, and I felt very big difference. It's hard to put into words, but I didn't feel connected to maybe my heart or my passions. And in a way I could see like, Okay, well, maybe there's some good to this, because I can feel that I can't even care as much as I did before. But it was in a number of ways. I also lost my passion for some of the things that were beautiful and good. And at age seventeen, I woke up one morning and I felt that I couldn't breathe, and my whole body felt pulverized. It was like I had been in an accident. In fact, I didn't know what had happened, but I was sure something must have happened, and I must have forgotten. I was in bed and tried to scream because the pain was so incredible from head to toe, and I couldn't take a breath. As soon as I breathed into scream, I had to stop because my chest area, the torso, was so inflamed. I didn't dare even try to breathe in and I just started crying. And I was diagnosed to age seventeen with fibromyalgia, and they sent me home on lots of pain meds for that. And at eighteen I reached this point where I kind of hit a wall. I don't like the feeling of these medications, and then of course if i'd stop, my brain would kind of freak out because you can't just take something that heavy and then just stop, and people would say, well, see, you need your medications. So I was going back and forth and really struggling, and at eighteen we had this day where all the right factors seemed to come in at the same point, and I did hit that place where I couldn't take it anymore. It wasn't planned, it was kind of spontaneous. I just knew that I wanted to get out, and I took every pill that I could find. It almost felt animalistic. The way that I reacted it was from another place, beyond a thinking place. That wasn't where my NDE came in. But just to give you a background of where I come from, this is part of my background. So obviously I made it through that. At age twenty one, I did what I was supposed to do. I got married and I started having children, and I was trying to follow the list of what you do if you have faith, if you're doing the right things and instead of the wrong things, and if you follow what we're taught, and so I was trying to do everything, and I wanted so desperately for a change to happen with all the pain that I was in and with everyone else, with the suffering that I saw in the world. A prayer that I repeated all the time was please let me be a tool in my hands. I just wanted so badly to help with the suffering, because I really did feel one with it. And more than anything, I wanted, as I wanted to believe, there was this God that had answers. I wanted to be a tool in his hands. And I repeated this all the time. And I did believe in miracles, and I wanted this to happen, so I continued trying to do the right things and have faith. I had four children, and all the while leading through the pregnancies and what was going on, there were a number of health factors that were coming in and things were getting worse and worse, and I got to the point where I was crawling on the floor instead of walking at times because it was so painful, and holding my babies was difficult because it hurt too much to all of them, and I was frightened because I was also not sleeping. The pain was so intense and the muscle spasms I was having were so intense that at night time I got to where I would sleep for fifteen minutes and then I would have to wake up. And I'm sorry, I get emotional, but I go right back into the places that I've been, so it brings up a lot. I would have to wake up every fifteen minutes, and at a certain point I could feel my brain was just going, I can't do this. It was like I would be awake, but my brain was like I got to go to sleep. And so it was a frightening feeling to be conscious and realize my brain was just shutting down.

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I have four kids and this family, and I kept praying to God, something has to happen. I know you're not going to let me just actually lose my mind with these four kids. I just want to do what's right. I just want to do the things that I was taught to do. And I finally hit another point, another milestone in this journey where I couldn't pray anymore. And one day I just kind of hit the floor. I just went down and landed on my knees. And I won't get into the details of the prayer, but it was essentially simple where I just said I know nothing. I don't know anything anymore. I kind of just released everything I thought. I knew all the things I believed in. You need to believe in this and believe in that, and this is this, and that's that. There was nothing anymore in my mind. I couldn't hold it all anymore because it was too painful. I couldn't even hold on to the belief of prayer. So I just felt my knees and said to God, I surrender. I don't know anything, and I'd let it all go. So shortly after this, I was seeing the doctor checking in, and the doctor was saying, I'm going to give you something. Because I was so desperate. I was saying, something awful is going to happen because things are shutting down. I'm reaching spaces where i can't even use my brain, and I'm really frightened. I know if I have sleep, I can do this. I can get through the pain. So he said, I have something. It's not typically used for sleep or pain, but we've found by accident that it seems to help both, and I want you to try this.

I have four kids and this family, and I kept praying to God, something has to happen. I know you're not going to let me just actually lose my mind with these four kids. I just want to do what's right. I just want to do the things that I was taught to do. And I finally hit another point, another milestone in this journey where I couldn't pray anymore. And one day I just kind of hit the floor. I just went down and landed on my knees. And I won't get into the details of the prayer, but it was essentially simple where I just said I know nothing. I don't know anything anymore. I kind of just released everything I thought. I knew all the things I believed in. You need to believe in this and believe in that, and this is this, and that's that. There was nothing anymore in my mind. I couldn't hold it all anymore because it was too painful. I couldn't even hold on to the belief of prayer. So I just felt my knees and said to God, I surrender. I don't know anything, and I'd let it all go. So shortly after this, I was seeing the doctor checking in, and the doctor was saying, I'm going to give you something. Because I was so desperate. I was saying, something awful is going to happen because things are shutting down. I'm reaching spaces where i can't even use my brain, and I'm really frightened. I know if I have sleep, I can do this. I can get through the pain. So he said, I have something. It's not typically used for sleep or pain, but we've found by accident that it seems to help both, and I want you to try this.

Going to stop here for our break because when we get back, the series of medications she takes does lead to her near death experience. I'm sure we can all feel some of the pain and suffering, and Amy feels that there is a happy outcome. So let's go to the break and we'll be right back with the near death experience of Amy Call. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain. We're listening to the near death experience of Amy Call, a young woman who was diagnosed bipolar after a few brief questions from a doctor. As a highly sensitive woman, of course, she goes looking for answers to her pain and suffering and gets prescribed with even more medication, leading to her near death experience. Let's continue.

Going to stop here for our break because when we get back, the series of medications she takes does lead to her near death experience. I'm sure we can all feel some of the pain and suffering, and Amy feels that there is a happy outcome. So let's go to the break and we'll be right back with the near death experience of Amy Call. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain. We're listening to the near death experience of Amy Call, a young woman who was diagnosed bipolar after a few brief questions from a doctor. As a highly sensitive woman, of course, she goes looking for answers to her pain and suffering and gets prescribed with even more medication, leading to her near death experience. Let's continue.

I'm really frightened. I know if I have sleep, I can do this. I can get through the pain. So he said, I have something. It's not typically used for sleep or pain, but we've found by accident that it seems to help both, and I want you to try this. I was kind of nervous because I had a history of every medication they'd ever given me had given me problems, and then they'd given me medications for those problems, and then stuff for the problems of those problems. And at that point I was taking something for every function that there was to wake up, to go to sleep, to go to the bathroom. My body wasn't working anymore without using something. So he gives me this, and I'm just thinking, oh, one more thing that's not going to work or feel right in me. So I went home and I shaved off just a little and I tried it and noticed right away my nose was swelling up and I couldn't breathe out of my nose, and that concerned me, and so I went back to the doctor and said, I'm concerned because I can't breathe out of my nose very well when I take it. And he was kind of like, Amy, you have a stuff. He knows. Just take the fuel holes. You're being dramatic or whatever. He was like, trust me, just take this three pills. So I went home. I was holding my youngest child. I was thirty years old. I remember my baby at the time was three months old. This baby had come home from the hospital with loringo Malaysia, so her throat wasn't done developing when she had come home from the hospital, and I was told, you can take her home. Just keep her from crying because the throat can kind of fold in on itself, So don't let the baby cry, you know, keep her from crying, which was very stressful for me, dealing with everything I was dealing with and having this situation where I'm suposed to keep a newborn from crying. She was really upset and I'm trying to soothe her and get her to go to sleep, and I'm just so exhausted, and the room started to get dark, and I noticed this darkness. It was kind of unusual the way it came in, almost like when clouds just suddenly sweep over an area and it gets surprisingly dark. But I was in the middle of my house and the room just kind of folded in almost with this darkness, and it was so very black. And it might sound spooky, but to me, there was something incredibly comforting happening in that it felt like a quilt was coming around me and everything just went super super black. As this happened, there was a glow that came in over me, and I realized I could look over and see my daughter's face. Now, she had been a really serious baby because of all the stuff she had gone through, and we hadn't really seen a lot of smiling or giggling, and she just suddenly as this glow came over, she just giggled spontaneously and smiled, so I was able to see her smile and giggle like that for the first time. At the same time she did that, she closed her eyes and fell into a really deep, RESTful sleep. The whole situation reminds me of the cartoon I saw when I was younger, where the blackness comes in and then at the end, the cartoon figure comes out and says, that's all, folks. It was a feeling almost like that. It was beautiful and comforting, and yet I had this feeling like it's over. I wasn't thinking that, but there was this sense of concld pclusion and there was a peacefulness. And I took the baby and I went and put her in her bed, and I went to my room. My husband was in the opposite side of the house, in the back corner, and he was either reading or studying, so he was back there. And I think it was like nine or nine thirty, and I went in the room and I just thought, I have to take the pills, and I'm not going to worry about it anymore. I just need to do what I need to do. And so I went and laid down on the bed. I took my pills, all three of them. It was like as soon as I took it, I could feel I couldn't move, I couldn't breathe through my nose, I couldn't open my mouth to breathe through my mouth. I couldn't breathe at all, and I couldn't flinch my muscles. It was almost like I was stuck, I was paralyzed or something, and so I went, of course into a panic in my mind, I'm not breathing, and I was acutely aware I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I got to that point where I knew, if I go any longer, that's it. It's over. And it was just this really fast spinning in my head of this panic, like there's nothing I can do. And there was suddenly this suction from the top of my head. I don't know what else to say other than that was like a suction, and I was free. So moving on to the next part, I didn't have to breathe. Of course, I was coming through a portal and there were a number of other people, and it felt totally normal. I didn't see gold lined roads or I didn't see angels with wings. It just was like here, except much more intensely real. And my way of comparing this because it's so difficult to put to words something that we don't have strong comparisons for, as I've used TVs, like there's the new HDTVs and we didn't know about those back when we had the black and white or the fuzzy colored TVs. All we knew was the TVs we had, but now we look back at those and it's just almost comical. They don't compare to the TVs we have now. And there it was just so much more real and clear, and my mind was clear, so I didn't have a reason to think that I was dead or that anyone else was. So I'm in this area as the people are coming through. There's communication going on, but it's not quite like here how I'm talking and everyone could understand each other. And for some reason this also seemed completely natural. In real life, I tend to be more intense or high strung or maybe jumpy how I was, so I would have thought that's how I would react, But here, for some reason, fear and things like that weren't a strong factor. So there was communication going on. I saw a man in a certain area, and I seem to have this understanding that he was like a mentor or a teacher, and I went to him because I wanted to understand what was going on. And when I talked to this man, I used talk when we had an understandings between us and communication. I wanted to know who he was, and that's how I knew he was like a mentor. I found out he died in a car accident. He drove trucks as a profession. But what he was there for was the factor of humility. And when he was there, he was able to teach in a way the people that were in this space the importance of humility. And this kind of humility that I could feel from him, it wouldn't be what I would have expected prior to my Nde. It wasn't like a bowing or a being small. What he was acted like a tuning fork to that area, and it was kind of like a gift to those who were there to be able to just feel what that was. And I could feel it, and it was peaceful and it was a good thing. And he explained to me that the people that were in this space had brought themselves to their own demce and I kind of understood this, almost like how we understand suicide, but it was not necessarily how we might imagine, you know, someone went and consciously took their life. A lot of these situations, as I understood, were things like someone was drunk driving and they ended up dying, or someone mixed the wrong drugs and ended up dying or someone took like a risk, like I'm going to jump over that cliff and see if I make it to the other side. It was a little different than what I would have expected, but at the same time I kind of understood it, almost like from their point of view, that it was a kind of suicide in a way. He was explaining to me that despite what he could offer the people there, he couldn't fully teach them because true learning happens in the body. This is a big deal to me personally, because so much of my life was about wanting to escape the body and wanting that for other people. And I also grew up hearing you know, when you die, you get to take off that glove and you get to be free. With this understanding in this place that true learning happens within the body, because when we are in experience in this form, there's something that evolves within us at soul level that makes the body an important part of whole. That it is one's good and one's bad, but that the two worked together in an important way. I at one point was moving to another area and there was another man in this cross point. I just knew for some reason that he also was someone who was similar to like a mentor or a type of teacher or something. I didn't even have to ask, because the question that was there in my mind, well, which one is the true church? It was already in his understanding that it was in my mind. And at the same time that I was feeling this question, I was in his place, seeing myself from his wisdom and knowledge and background. The way I saw myself asking was like a little kid who goes up to someone with maybe some more wisdom or knowledge. And it was as if I were saying, so, tell me which kind of cheese is the moon made of? Is it Jack Swiss or Cheddar. He didn't answer me with words or or even with that telepathic communication. He smiled at me, and he just lowered his head in a way that I understood he was gonna let me wait a while until I was ready to figure out what it was I really needed to ask. I had a young woman come up to me at a certain point where she was very very close and intensely moved into my face like pay attention. Not that she said that, but I could feel from her this is important. And she started saying things like tell them this I need you to say this, I need you to explain that. As she was giving information about her life, personal stuff to her, and I wasn't sure why because I didn't recognize her. I was fine with her. I didn't feel like I needed to get away. She seemed nice and I wanted to be polite, and so she gave me this information about her. She was saying things like, tell them I'm free, tell them I'm not in any pain. Tell them that I am happy. I have joy now, she said, tell them that before I went, I had started to sing, and that brought me Joe and I really loved singing. There were just a number of things that she was offering to me, including this is what it felt like when I died, and I could empathetically feel what she went through, which for some reason didn't bother me. I could feel it and it was okay. And then she wanted me to hear her singing, and so she started singing, and I was like, yeah, she does have a really good voice. It's a beautiful voice. So that happened, and whatever point this was, time and space are just so strange there. I didn't even know when I came back, what do I say happened first, second, third, But I went back to the first man and I was saying, what are these people here for? And he said, well, they're all deceased, they're dead. And I said this in a way in my head, I said, if they're dead, what am I? He gave to me an understanding that I wasn't quite the same as the rest of them. It was as if I had some life left. But he was saying, you're not the same as the rest of them, and I was like, okay, I'm out here. I just knew I wanted to go out. So in one way, this is the end of my ND, and I took off and just left. But in another way, there was something going on. And I say simultaneously, because again I don't know where to place this, so I concluded that it must have all happened at once, but there's an entirely different portion of my ND that happened.

I'm really frightened. I know if I have sleep, I can do this. I can get through the pain. So he said, I have something. It's not typically used for sleep or pain, but we've found by accident that it seems to help both, and I want you to try this. I was kind of nervous because I had a history of every medication they'd ever given me had given me problems, and then they'd given me medications for those problems, and then stuff for the problems of those problems. And at that point I was taking something for every function that there was to wake up, to go to sleep, to go to the bathroom. My body wasn't working anymore without using something. So he gives me this, and I'm just thinking, oh, one more thing that's not going to work or feel right in me. So I went home and I shaved off just a little and I tried it and noticed right away my nose was swelling up and I couldn't breathe out of my nose, and that concerned me, and so I went back to the doctor and said, I'm concerned because I can't breathe out of my nose very well when I take it. And he was kind of like, Amy, you have a stuff. He knows. Just take the fuel holes. You're being dramatic or whatever. He was like, trust me, just take this three pills. So I went home. I was holding my youngest child. I was thirty years old. I remember my baby at the time was three months old. This baby had come home from the hospital with loringo Malaysia, so her throat wasn't done developing when she had come home from the hospital, and I was told, you can take her home. Just keep her from crying because the throat can kind of fold in on itself, So don't let the baby cry, you know, keep her from crying, which was very stressful for me, dealing with everything I was dealing with and having this situation where I'm suposed to keep a newborn from crying. She was really upset and I'm trying to soothe her and get her to go to sleep, and I'm just so exhausted, and the room started to get dark, and I noticed this darkness. It was kind of unusual the way it came in, almost like when clouds just suddenly sweep over an area and it gets surprisingly dark. But I was in the middle of my house and the room just kind of folded in almost with this darkness, and it was so very black. And it might sound spooky, but to me, there was something incredibly comforting happening in that it felt like a quilt was coming around me and everything just went super super black. As this happened, there was a glow that came in over me, and I realized I could look over and see my daughter's face. Now, she had been a really serious baby because of all the stuff she had gone through, and we hadn't really seen a lot of smiling or giggling, and she just suddenly as this glow came over, she just giggled spontaneously and smiled, so I was able to see her smile and giggle like that for the first time. At the same time she did that, she closed her eyes and fell into a really deep, RESTful sleep. The whole situation reminds me of the cartoon I saw when I was younger, where the blackness comes in and then at the end, the cartoon figure comes out and says, that's all, folks. It was a feeling almost like that. It was beautiful and comforting, and yet I had this feeling like it's over. I wasn't thinking that, but there was this sense of concld pclusion and there was a peacefulness. And I took the baby and I went and put her in her bed, and I went to my room. My husband was in the opposite side of the house, in the back corner, and he was either reading or studying, so he was back there. And I think it was like nine or nine thirty, and I went in the room and I just thought, I have to take the pills, and I'm not going to worry about it anymore. I just need to do what I need to do. And so I went and laid down on the bed. I took my pills, all three of them. It was like as soon as I took it, I could feel I couldn't move, I couldn't breathe through my nose, I couldn't open my mouth to breathe through my mouth. I couldn't breathe at all, and I couldn't flinch my muscles. It was almost like I was stuck, I was paralyzed or something, and so I went, of course into a panic in my mind, I'm not breathing, and I was acutely aware I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I got to that point where I knew, if I go any longer, that's it. It's over. And it was just this really fast spinning in my head of this panic, like there's nothing I can do. And there was suddenly this suction from the top of my head. I don't know what else to say other than that was like a suction, and I was free. So moving on to the next part, I didn't have to breathe. Of course, I was coming through a portal and there were a number of other people, and it felt totally normal. I didn't see gold lined roads or I didn't see angels with wings. It just was like here, except much more intensely real. And my way of comparing this because it's so difficult to put to words something that we don't have strong comparisons for, as I've used TVs, like there's the new HDTVs and we didn't know about those back when we had the black and white or the fuzzy colored TVs. All we knew was the TVs we had, but now we look back at those and it's just almost comical. They don't compare to the TVs we have now. And there it was just so much more real and clear, and my mind was clear, so I didn't have a reason to think that I was dead or that anyone else was. So I'm in this area as the people are coming through. There's communication going on, but it's not quite like here how I'm talking and everyone could understand each other. And for some reason this also seemed completely natural. In real life, I tend to be more intense or high strung or maybe jumpy how I was, so I would have thought that's how I would react, But here, for some reason, fear and things like that weren't a strong factor. So there was communication going on. I saw a man in a certain area, and I seem to have this understanding that he was like a mentor or a teacher, and I went to him because I wanted to understand what was going on. And when I talked to this man, I used talk when we had an understandings between us and communication. I wanted to know who he was, and that's how I knew he was like a mentor. I found out he died in a car accident. He drove trucks as a profession. But what he was there for was the factor of humility. And when he was there, he was able to teach in a way the people that were in this space the importance of humility. And this kind of humility that I could feel from him, it wouldn't be what I would have expected prior to my Nde. It wasn't like a bowing or a being small. What he was acted like a tuning fork to that area, and it was kind of like a gift to those who were there to be able to just feel what that was. And I could feel it, and it was peaceful and it was a good thing. And he explained to me that the people that were in this space had brought themselves to their own demce and I kind of understood this, almost like how we understand suicide, but it was not necessarily how we might imagine, you know, someone went and consciously took their life. A lot of these situations, as I understood, were things like someone was drunk driving and they ended up dying, or someone mixed the wrong drugs and ended up dying or someone took like a risk, like I'm going to jump over that cliff and see if I make it to the other side. It was a little different than what I would have expected, but at the same time I kind of understood it, almost like from their point of view, that it was a kind of suicide in a way. He was explaining to me that despite what he could offer the people there, he couldn't fully teach them because true learning happens in the body. This is a big deal to me personally, because so much of my life was about wanting to escape the body and wanting that for other people. And I also grew up hearing you know, when you die, you get to take off that glove and you get to be free. With this understanding in this place that true learning happens within the body, because when we are in experience in this form, there's something that evolves within us at soul level that makes the body an important part of whole. That it is one's good and one's bad, but that the two worked together in an important way. I at one point was moving to another area and there was another man in this cross point. I just knew for some reason that he also was someone who was similar to like a mentor or a type of teacher or something. I didn't even have to ask, because the question that was there in my mind, well, which one is the true church? It was already in his understanding that it was in my mind. And at the same time that I was feeling this question, I was in his place, seeing myself from his wisdom and knowledge and background. The way I saw myself asking was like a little kid who goes up to someone with maybe some more wisdom or knowledge. And it was as if I were saying, so, tell me which kind of cheese is the moon made of? Is it Jack Swiss or Cheddar. He didn't answer me with words or or even with that telepathic communication. He smiled at me, and he just lowered his head in a way that I understood he was gonna let me wait a while until I was ready to figure out what it was I really needed to ask. I had a young woman come up to me at a certain point where she was very very close and intensely moved into my face like pay attention. Not that she said that, but I could feel from her this is important. And she started saying things like tell them this I need you to say this, I need you to explain that. As she was giving information about her life, personal stuff to her, and I wasn't sure why because I didn't recognize her. I was fine with her. I didn't feel like I needed to get away. She seemed nice and I wanted to be polite, and so she gave me this information about her. She was saying things like, tell them I'm free, tell them I'm not in any pain. Tell them that I am happy. I have joy now, she said, tell them that before I went, I had started to sing, and that brought me Joe and I really loved singing. There were just a number of things that she was offering to me, including this is what it felt like when I died, and I could empathetically feel what she went through, which for some reason didn't bother me. I could feel it and it was okay. And then she wanted me to hear her singing, and so she started singing, and I was like, yeah, she does have a really good voice. It's a beautiful voice. So that happened, and whatever point this was, time and space are just so strange there. I didn't even know when I came back, what do I say happened first, second, third, But I went back to the first man and I was saying, what are these people here for? And he said, well, they're all deceased, they're dead. And I said this in a way in my head, I said, if they're dead, what am I? He gave to me an understanding that I wasn't quite the same as the rest of them. It was as if I had some life left. But he was saying, you're not the same as the rest of them, and I was like, okay, I'm out here. I just knew I wanted to go out. So in one way, this is the end of my ND, and I took off and just left. But in another way, there was something going on. And I say simultaneously, because again I don't know where to place this, so I concluded that it must have all happened at once, but there's an entirely different portion of my ND that happened.

We're going to take our next break here, and when we come back here about her simultaneous near death experience, we'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, and we just heard some of Amy Call's near death experience. She thought it was over after spending time with a woman who wanted to give a message to her loved ones when she got back. Now she moves into another experience.

We're going to take our next break here, and when we come back here about her simultaneous near death experience, we'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, and we just heard some of Amy Call's near death experience. She thought it was over after spending time with a woman who wanted to give a message to her loved ones when she got back. Now she moves into another experience.

There was something going on, and I say simultaneously, because again I don't know where to place this, so I concluded that it must have all happened at once. But there's an entirely different portion of my nd that happened. And in this other part of my NDE, it wasn't the same as that portal experience with the people you know. In the portal experience, I was Amy, I was my identity, I had my connections to family, and oh my gosh, I got to get out of here, back to where I come from. And in the other experience, I wasn't connected to any of it. I didn't have the stuff that made up who I am, or I didn't have the questions of like, well, which one is the truth? In the other part, it was like I was just soul, and yet in some way I retained a being that made up this right here, and yet I was part of all of it, and I felt one with all of it. And in this other part, I had my guide with me, and I was at home with my guide, and this part was the most comforting and beautiful experience. But just to go into some of it, my guide was with me, and it was like I had access to everything what struck me so strongly in my experience. You know, if a teacher gets up at the front and says, let me show you this math or let me teach you this I was all of it. I knew while I was these things, this math and this science, and this order that was in the universe. I knew that there was nowhere that it wasn't even if there's a tiny bug going across the room, I knew that that was within this math and science too, in this beautiful order. So for me, it was beyond just beautiful, because my life before the experience, I struggled with looking out in the world and feeling like this really looks chaotic, and so in my experience to be within this order and see there was so much order, it was beyond anything I could imagine or ever put word to. It was incredibly beautiful and peaceful, and it's funny because also before my experience, I couldn't stand math and science, and it was like this huge mental block for me. I couldn't even get to like third grade math without just plugging my ears. I've always struggled with spatial things, time and space and numbers and things like that because I was someone who had to feel everything inside of me. So having teachers in school trying to teach me something that I couldn't step inside of and feel or taste just didn't work for me. And then being in this experience where I could feel it all. When I was out in this part that I just say, I'm out in the universe, I had this understanding that the way everything worked in the universe was almost as if there was like a big clockwork thing going on in the sky. There was this reflection thing going on where the above reflected everything here and here reflected there even within our own bodies, and I could just be part of it. It's not that someone sat down, like I said, and gave me all the nitty gritty details. I could feel it and I knew it and I trusted it because I was it and it was perfect. So that was of course another healing thing for me. Then this other part that I found people called life review. Growing up, I'd had times where my mom would say something like, if you do something and it's not good, you're gonna be embarrassed because you'll have to see that after you die, and so you should be good, and things like that. I didn't imagine it the way that it actually happened. What happened in my life review is that it was just powerfully loving and I felt almost like a totem pole way of being. In this life review where we have at the portal, I was more identity, and then on this other part I was just like soul and I wasn't my identity. And in a life review, I had this connection to the smallest part of me that was like the little ego or whatever we want to call it. And I had this connection also to the part of me that's just soul. And then I had connection to the people on the outside all around me, and yet I could feel the oneness as well and all the layers of everyone and everything that was. And then I also had a connection beyond that that was source. And I say source a lot because it feels almost weird for me to use God since my end, because it feels almost like I'm narrowing it. But I understand we need words here, so I say both. But I was connected to source as well, and it all came together in my life review, and I could feel everyone, and I could feel myself and I had compassion on my soul and other people, the way as parents when we have a toddler or two toddlers say they're playing and one gets mad and pulls the block from the other, and we're not thinking of that toddler, you're evil or you're bad, or now you're not going to make it to heaven, you know, or or if your toddler runs down the hallway and trips and falls, it's not I'm going to write that one down. I just understood everyone like children, and I wanted for everyone, including myself, And in that life review, I was able to feel for myself the way we would feel for our own children. And I had this compassion for myself where I wanted for myself to be happier and to do better, not as in get the higher grade, but just to be happier, that kind of better, like have fun, lighting up, It's okay, you know and in this experience in a life review, I had someone in my life who I thought was my enemy, and this person came up in the life review and I didn't even realize. It's not that I consciously I should say of enemy, but I saw her and I had judgments in my mind. You know, she's so bad from what I had experienced, and I didn't realize that I had held that in me. And in the life review, I connected with this person and that was probably the most powerful feeling of love. And my whole ENDE was when I was able to connect with who she really is beyond all of the things I thought I knew about her and the judgments that I made, And it doesn't condone what had happened what I had seen, but the love that I felt from the source coming through at all the different levels and being able to see her and who she really is and what she's connected to was another mind blowing thing for me. And so after my NDE, I came back and immediately was just it was a big relief. I was sobbing and just all this stuff coming out, and I could almost feel like my body physically was changing because I had this love for her. That was like the love that you would feel for a firstborn child. I just loved her so much. So that was another part. Then I had a part where it was like I was getting downloading. I saw the planet come in. This was the planet Earth. I saw letters above the planet and capitals. It was nov A Ta. This is Novata. And when I saw this, I heard a voice that was saying the seven days of the week. It was in Spanish, I understood, but it was doing the seven days of the week. And then I heard prepare for the seventh day. I ended up going around the planet, and as I went around the planet, I could feel the energies and frequencies of all the different countries in every place. I could feel that each place had its own kind of frequency or spirit about it that was special to that place. And yet I could also feel how they were interconnected, and it was this important whole that was needed for the whole planet. But it was very interesting for me to feel that not only did a country have its own frequency, but then you know places within the country had their own, and then you know cities within that and even neighborhoods, and at every level that everything was interconnected and yet special at the same time. So I had this going on, and then I had this understanding coming in that this was one thing that actually did come in words. I had very little that I could bring back that I could say, and it said this. But one thing I kept getting that repeated even after I came back, was come back to the Earth. My understanding was with how it was communicated to me, was that there was something with the food on the planet, that it was not in purest form, and that it needed to come back to its pure state, and that this was very important. And I understood the word tainted. I had been, of course, in so much physical pain for so long. When I did come back, right away everything changed. It was in instantly I started eating much more simple, more pure. I didn't really know there was a thing such as food that has been mutated or changed, but I was trying to get food in its most pure form. And I've stuck with that ever since. I've been eating very simply, more pure, and that's something that's helped me a lot. Like I said, I didn't know what Novada meant, and I wanted to mention in case I forget that I did have someone who contacted me who read my near death experience online, and she said, I wanted to tell you that I looked up what novoda is and she told me that it means new birth or new beginning. Now, when I saw the planet, the colors on the planet were intense, but I've already explained that on that side, the colors are way more clear and intense, and this is kind of the blurry place. This is the black and white TV realm. And there it was just like it is as it really is. So the planet was just beautiful. And when I saw the planet, there was an overlay, almost like a different layer or dimension to it. But I could see there was an eye, and when I first saw it, it was closed, but it was in the process of opening over the planet. It was just one eye encompassing the planet. And I saw the planet as a being. I knew it as a being, and so this is how I see the planet still, that it's a being, and so it's important to me. Now I hadn't seen it that way before, so that's something that's special to me. I saw different planets different moons. I saw one planet that was completely covered in water, and then the planet comes up right in front of me, and my guide says that it's time to go back. And when my guide tells me that it's time to go back, I almost felt like a rupturing in my being at just the idea of separating from what this situation was. It was like, there's no possibility there. It didn't matter. I wasn't going back. But what was so painful, and I say painful, It sounds weird, but yes, I felt agony. What was so painful was just the idea of division, separation, and I felt a feeling like if I were glass. It felt like the glass shattered and I was shattering. I was wailing, but it was so deep. It was like if I were in the physical body. I would say every cell in my body seemed to be in agony and crying out. It was like a moaning and it couldn't even get it out because it was so powerful. It was almost like an implosion. My guide said, look to your left, and so I looked to my left, and my four year old daughter was being brought to me. A guide was with her, and she was being brought to me, and she comes up to me over here, and she just kind of reaches up to me and does like a tugging thing, which of course brings me back in this experience to identity rather than this whole lack of attachments. Suddenly there's my daughter and she's saying, mommy, but who will take care of us? And she's smiling.

There was something going on, and I say simultaneously, because again I don't know where to place this, so I concluded that it must have all happened at once. But there's an entirely different portion of my nd that happened. And in this other part of my NDE, it wasn't the same as that portal experience with the people you know. In the portal experience, I was Amy, I was my identity, I had my connections to family, and oh my gosh, I got to get out of here, back to where I come from. And in the other experience, I wasn't connected to any of it. I didn't have the stuff that made up who I am, or I didn't have the questions of like, well, which one is the truth? In the other part, it was like I was just soul, and yet in some way I retained a being that made up this right here, and yet I was part of all of it, and I felt one with all of it. And in this other part, I had my guide with me, and I was at home with my guide, and this part was the most comforting and beautiful experience. But just to go into some of it, my guide was with me, and it was like I had access to everything what struck me so strongly in my experience. You know, if a teacher gets up at the front and says, let me show you this math or let me teach you this I was all of it. I knew while I was these things, this math and this science, and this order that was in the universe. I knew that there was nowhere that it wasn't even if there's a tiny bug going across the room, I knew that that was within this math and science too, in this beautiful order. So for me, it was beyond just beautiful, because my life before the experience, I struggled with looking out in the world and feeling like this really looks chaotic, and so in my experience to be within this order and see there was so much order, it was beyond anything I could imagine or ever put word to. It was incredibly beautiful and peaceful, and it's funny because also before my experience, I couldn't stand math and science, and it was like this huge mental block for me. I couldn't even get to like third grade math without just plugging my ears. I've always struggled with spatial things, time and space and numbers and things like that because I was someone who had to feel everything inside of me. So having teachers in school trying to teach me something that I couldn't step inside of and feel or taste just didn't work for me. And then being in this experience where I could feel it all. When I was out in this part that I just say, I'm out in the universe, I had this understanding that the way everything worked in the universe was almost as if there was like a big clockwork thing going on in the sky. There was this reflection thing going on where the above reflected everything here and here reflected there even within our own bodies, and I could just be part of it. It's not that someone sat down, like I said, and gave me all the nitty gritty details. I could feel it and I knew it and I trusted it because I was it and it was perfect. So that was of course another healing thing for me. Then this other part that I found people called life review. Growing up, I'd had times where my mom would say something like, if you do something and it's not good, you're gonna be embarrassed because you'll have to see that after you die, and so you should be good, and things like that. I didn't imagine it the way that it actually happened. What happened in my life review is that it was just powerfully loving and I felt almost like a totem pole way of being. In this life review where we have at the portal, I was more identity, and then on this other part I was just like soul and I wasn't my identity. And in a life review, I had this connection to the smallest part of me that was like the little ego or whatever we want to call it. And I had this connection also to the part of me that's just soul. And then I had connection to the people on the outside all around me, and yet I could feel the oneness as well and all the layers of everyone and everything that was. And then I also had a connection beyond that that was source. And I say source a lot because it feels almost weird for me to use God since my end, because it feels almost like I'm narrowing it. But I understand we need words here, so I say both. But I was connected to source as well, and it all came together in my life review, and I could feel everyone, and I could feel myself and I had compassion on my soul and other people, the way as parents when we have a toddler or two toddlers say they're playing and one gets mad and pulls the block from the other, and we're not thinking of that toddler, you're evil or you're bad, or now you're not going to make it to heaven, you know, or or if your toddler runs down the hallway and trips and falls, it's not I'm going to write that one down. I just understood everyone like children, and I wanted for everyone, including myself, And in that life review, I was able to feel for myself the way we would feel for our own children. And I had this compassion for myself where I wanted for myself to be happier and to do better, not as in get the higher grade, but just to be happier, that kind of better, like have fun, lighting up, It's okay, you know and in this experience in a life review, I had someone in my life who I thought was my enemy, and this person came up in the life review and I didn't even realize. It's not that I consciously I should say of enemy, but I saw her and I had judgments in my mind. You know, she's so bad from what I had experienced, and I didn't realize that I had held that in me. And in the life review, I connected with this person and that was probably the most powerful feeling of love. And my whole ENDE was when I was able to connect with who she really is beyond all of the things I thought I knew about her and the judgments that I made, And it doesn't condone what had happened what I had seen, but the love that I felt from the source coming through at all the different levels and being able to see her and who she really is and what she's connected to was another mind blowing thing for me. And so after my NDE, I came back and immediately was just it was a big relief. I was sobbing and just all this stuff coming out, and I could almost feel like my body physically was changing because I had this love for her. That was like the love that you would feel for a firstborn child. I just loved her so much. So that was another part. Then I had a part where it was like I was getting downloading. I saw the planet come in. This was the planet Earth. I saw letters above the planet and capitals. It was nov A Ta. This is Novata. And when I saw this, I heard a voice that was saying the seven days of the week. It was in Spanish, I understood, but it was doing the seven days of the week. And then I heard prepare for the seventh day. I ended up going around the planet, and as I went around the planet, I could feel the energies and frequencies of all the different countries in every place. I could feel that each place had its own kind of frequency or spirit about it that was special to that place. And yet I could also feel how they were interconnected, and it was this important whole that was needed for the whole planet. But it was very interesting for me to feel that not only did a country have its own frequency, but then you know places within the country had their own, and then you know cities within that and even neighborhoods, and at every level that everything was interconnected and yet special at the same time. So I had this going on, and then I had this understanding coming in that this was one thing that actually did come in words. I had very little that I could bring back that I could say, and it said this. But one thing I kept getting that repeated even after I came back, was come back to the Earth. My understanding was with how it was communicated to me, was that there was something with the food on the planet, that it was not in purest form, and that it needed to come back to its pure state, and that this was very important. And I understood the word tainted. I had been, of course, in so much physical pain for so long. When I did come back, right away everything changed. It was in instantly I started eating much more simple, more pure. I didn't really know there was a thing such as food that has been mutated or changed, but I was trying to get food in its most pure form. And I've stuck with that ever since. I've been eating very simply, more pure, and that's something that's helped me a lot. Like I said, I didn't know what Novada meant, and I wanted to mention in case I forget that I did have someone who contacted me who read my near death experience online, and she said, I wanted to tell you that I looked up what novoda is and she told me that it means new birth or new beginning. Now, when I saw the planet, the colors on the planet were intense, but I've already explained that on that side, the colors are way more clear and intense, and this is kind of the blurry place. This is the black and white TV realm. And there it was just like it is as it really is. So the planet was just beautiful. And when I saw the planet, there was an overlay, almost like a different layer or dimension to it. But I could see there was an eye, and when I first saw it, it was closed, but it was in the process of opening over the planet. It was just one eye encompassing the planet. And I saw the planet as a being. I knew it as a being, and so this is how I see the planet still, that it's a being, and so it's important to me. Now I hadn't seen it that way before, so that's something that's special to me. I saw different planets different moons. I saw one planet that was completely covered in water, and then the planet comes up right in front of me, and my guide says that it's time to go back. And when my guide tells me that it's time to go back, I almost felt like a rupturing in my being at just the idea of separating from what this situation was. It was like, there's no possibility there. It didn't matter. I wasn't going back. But what was so painful, and I say painful, It sounds weird, but yes, I felt agony. What was so painful was just the idea of division, separation, and I felt a feeling like if I were glass. It felt like the glass shattered and I was shattering. I was wailing, but it was so deep. It was like if I were in the physical body. I would say every cell in my body seemed to be in agony and crying out. It was like a moaning and it couldn't even get it out because it was so powerful. It was almost like an implosion. My guide said, look to your left, and so I looked to my left, and my four year old daughter was being brought to me. A guide was with her, and she was being brought to me, and she comes up to me over here, and she just kind of reaches up to me and does like a tugging thing, which of course brings me back in this experience to identity rather than this whole lack of attachments. Suddenly there's my daughter and she's saying, mommy, but who will take care of us? And she's smiling.

We have to take a break, and I promise pick up right where we left off. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandras Champlain and we're hearing the near death experience of Amy. Call now if you can stay with me to the end, I want to share a miracle that's just happened to me and it relates to something that she shared in this near death experience. So, last we left Amy, it was time for her to return to earth, but she didn't want to. Let's continue.

We have to take a break, and I promise pick up right where we left off. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandras Champlain and we're hearing the near death experience of Amy. Call now if you can stay with me to the end, I want to share a miracle that's just happened to me and it relates to something that she shared in this near death experience. So, last we left Amy, it was time for her to return to earth, but she didn't want to. Let's continue.

My guide said look to your left, and so I looked to my left and my four year old daughter was being brought to me. A guide was with her, and she was being brought to me and she comes up to me over here and she just kind of reaches up to me and does like a tugging thing, which of course brings me back in this experience, to identity rather than this whole lack of attachments. Suddenly there's my daughter and she's saying, Mommy, but who will take care of us? And she's smiling. Before she could even finish asking me, I was saying, of course I will. And I don't see myself as saying that at the level I'm at right now. What I'm trying to say is that on my own, I don't believe that I would have said that, because in the place I was in, I knew everything was okay. I didn't need to go back, And even if someone had said, hey, remember your family, do you want to go back, I would have said, they're fine, I'm going to stay. But when she specifically asked me, it was this call because in that place I was so connected to the source and the higher love and everything that was there that was so powerful, and I was one with it that was coming through as part of who or what I was that helped answer. So in that place, it was the love that was coming through, the divine love that said, of course I will. The guide took my daughter back and just still trying to come to terms with I'm leaving this place was still so difficult. This pain was still coming through. And my guide says, look to your right. So I looked to my right, and there's a holographic image and it's a living holographic image. It's not a movie or something made up. It was my mom and it was my mom in the future. And I could see that she was fragile, and I could see that she was struggling and she wasn't having an easy time. And my mom comes from a time period where people did their hair well and they dressed really well, fifties girl, and I could see that she had like a little hair here and there, and I was thinking, oh my gosh, my mom would not be okay with that, and I just wanted to be there for her. Like naturally, I wanted to help her because I know what it is that my mom cares about. And I moved toward this holograph of my mom, and I felt myself willing myself to go forward. In doing this, I understood that there was a level of what I am and what I come from that did want to go back. It was just hard in a certain part of me to understand that there was a higher will, that's part of me that did want to go back. So I did understand, but still continued with the crying, like how do I actually just go because I couldn't imagine doing bad action and going and there's the planet waiting for me. So I'm still in this deep crying and my guide says very well, and then it was like there was a spin of a vortex spinning and it comes to me and we became one. I knew that my guide and I were one, and I got put your finger out reach toward the planet, and so I'm of course, this is the first time in that part of my experience coming to the idea of body again, other than my daughter reaching toward me and reminding me. I reached forward and it was like I could see the outer form of the tip of my finger as I reached toward the planet, and there was like an electrical zipline or something that just shot out at my fingertip. There was just an immediate section. It was just instant. And then I was back and I'm in my bedroom and I have my guide still with me, but I couldn't connect to my body. I could see that my body was in the bed, and at this point my husband is next to my body, and I'm trying to get in my body, and I couldn't feel anything, and I got this panic because I wasn't back there where I was, which was so awesome, and I'm not feeling safe back in my body, and so of course I'm getting frantic. I don't know what to do. And I feel my guide go through the throat, go through the throat, and so all I can feel of myself is that I'm energy and my consciousness. So I start blasting myself over and over through the throat of my body. And I just keep doing this, throwing my energy through the throat, and then I see my jaw drop and this kind of like a grown noise, almost like a toad, just like air passed, a little bit of air pass out of the mouth, just enough to make the slightest low sound. And my husband says Amy, And I just kept doing this, throwing my energy through the throat, and then he says Amy again, this time reaching over, and then he kind of jumps up, and I see him running to the light switch and he flips it on, and he's running over and he looks at me, and his face just looked like it turned to wax, and there were beads of sweat that just instantly formed around his hairline. And I don't know where I was that I could look at all of this, but I was looking at this and he's grabbed me and he's saying Amy, Amy over and over and shaking the body and trying to lift it, and I was surprised. I remember being really surprised, like why is it so hard for him to lift because he's pretty strong, big guy, and it would be easy to lift me, but he was really having a hard time, like lifting the body, but he was, you know, shaking and shaking, and I just had this understanding that with his hands on my body, it's going to be okay because he's like a cable line, the physical body connecting to my body would send what was needed through. So at this point I just relaxed and waited for this to happen because it was what I was being given. And then sure enough, as he was doing this, that was the first thing I could physically feel was the electricity was running all over the top of my skin, coming from his hands from head to toe. It finally covered me, and then I started connecting with this electricity. That's what I connected with, and then I was in my body. After this experience, of course, my husband's asking what happened and things like that, and it was just too much and I did don't know how to begin or what words to use. So he just kept saying, We've got to write it down. You've got to write it down. And I hesitated because I just thought I know how this sounds. So I hesitated for many, many years. But after this experience, I went right away to church, and my husband was surprised because he was saying, you know, you'd think after something like that, you'd be in bed for two weeks. I was very determined to get to church. And it wasn't because I needed to go to church. It was like there was something that was telling me you have to be there. There's something going on, you have to be there. It was one of those things where it's just you get a feeling you're supposed to be somewhere, and so I told him, no, there's something that's going to happen. I have to be in whatever this is that's going to happen. By the way, right after my experience. My husband was kind of freaking out, like do I call nine one one? What do we need to do? What's happening, you know? And I was totally adamant, There's no way you're calling anyone. I'm not going to a doctor. I don't need to ask a doctor if I'm okay. I was totally sure that I was okay. I was more okay than ever, So there's no way that I was going to let him call a doctor or anyone. So going back to going to church, I showed up there and not sure what I was doing, and I sat down, and then at the part of church where they're passing bread and the water, I felt right then, a very strong, very powerful, like right now, this is it, Get up and go out. I didn't know why, but I was still very much with my guide, stood up and left and out in the main area, there was a woman sitting in a love seat and she was crying, very heavily crying, and she was surrounded by a number of people who were comforting her and hugging her. And I still wasn't sure exactly what I was going to be doing with her, so I kind of walked off down the hall and took a break and waited for a little bit, came back, and then when I came back to her, she didn't have the people around her, so I was able to ask her what was going on, and she said that she just found out that her daughter had died, and I right away got this flash like oh, But I didn't want to say any thing weird. It wasn't appropriate for me to say anything at that point, and I didn't know for sure, so I actually invited her. I said, do you want to come back to my house tomorrow? And I knew very specifically what the young woman looked like in my experience. She had a very unusual look and the coloring in her hair and eyes. So I said, do you feel like you could come talk to me about it tomorrow? And she said yes, And I was surprised that she was open about that, And I said, could you bring a photo, because I figured, you know, if it's not her, I still would want to be there for her, and if it is, then we might have something to talk about. So she came and she brought a black and white photo. Even with a black and white photo, I knew right away that it was that young woman and I said to her, did your daughter have like an unusual red coloring in her hair, the really unusual color red? And she said yes. And I described her eyes then, the unusual color of her eyes, and she was surprised, yes. And then I was able to say what happened. I was able to explain to the lady what happened in my experience, which was comforting for her. I was able to give information on the death and anyway, that's basically my experience.